jesusjnr2020:
Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish

Ever since I became born-again and began to walk closely with God, I have always thought the practice of setting attendance or financial targets by churches and their leaders for those under their leadership was erroneous.

I believed it was a worldly practice that had nothing to do with God, hence if the church embraced such it would only end up derailing the church from its original values and standard.

I once had a friend who was a dedicated member of Christ Embassy, one of the denominations guilty of this practice, so when this topic came up during our conversations, I expressed my disapproval of such a policy in the church. But despite being a very devoted and committed member of the Church, he honestly admitted that such targets made him to start preaching what he ought not when he held a leadership position under the church.

He bowed to the pressure of meeting such targets set for him by his leaders and began preaching something else which he thought would enable him meet those targets when preaching the right thing couldn't.

I wasn't much surprised though about that because I knew very well that such was inevitable, considering that such targets were worldly and not of God, so it was only going to lead to compromising and going contrary to the things of God, since the things of this world were opposed to the things of God.

This is the same kind of targets set by some financial institutions to their employees that would make them to start going to ridiculous lengths, including sleeping with some of their clients, to meet them.

This is what has being embraced by a significant part of the church which ought to be in this world but not to the world.

That's why I don't get impressed with the mammoth crowds attending some churches and the amount of money they generate as a result.

It's much easier to achieve similar results by preaching the nonsense people want to hear rather than the Truth and Words of the Spirit.

If it were by preaching rubbish as it is the case in most of such churches, many of the disciples who left Jesus because of the Words of the Spirit He preached, would have never left Him.

They would have remained in the church at the expense of spiritual quality, which is more or less the result of the church we have today.

That's why I don't judge a church by the amount of members or riches they have, but how much they follow the example and teachings of Christ, because that's the only true standard that determines how successful a church is in the sight of God.

God bless.

You did not give us example of the rubbish he preached

Olarewaju89:
Being the first born and first son in a poor family like this is a serious issue. Don't blame your brother too much pls. It is a spiritual things and he need a deliverance and serious councils.

To be honest with you, your mother has a lot to do in this matter not you.

I won't go further than this.

why is everything spiritual?

Somebody who doesn't have any form of education. He has spent a better part of his life as a conductor and I suspect he will be addicted to drug and or women. If you analyse it very well, you will see that the trajectory his life is taking is as a result of poverty, environment he grew up and the friends he keeps

iamfertile:


@IHART, how's business? Have read through this thread. Kudos to you bro. I'm interested in soap making business infact I've been watching some online videos but I need an experienced entrepreneur like you to put me through. Pls how can you help me? I'll chat you up on WhatsApp. Thanls

Business has been fine. I believe you learnt one or more things from this thread. Ok, lets meet on whatsapp

Thank God oh

jumper524:
He would definitely face a lighter punishment if the deceased was the first person to bring out a weapon and attack.

not when he stabbed him three times

sonature1:


In all this, that Dr. Obinna Obeta deserved to get the worst jail term. That dude ought to get at least 15 years imprisonment. He's the perfect definition of wickedness and greed.

I believe he will lose his licence too

I have a senior who is my friend on Facebook. He is now a pastor, any time I see his post, I will recall my terrible experience in secondary. It pains me that he didn't do what he would have done to protect me. I have contemplated blocking him on facebook so I can forget that experience but I find it difficult doing that.

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Salewa97:
Funfact: Most of the states on the list do not have a seaport.

is it a must that only states with seaport should have business enterprise?

Europea:


This is so heartbreaking, Nigerians are truly suffering in this hard times.. may God touch the heart of a good samaritan to help you dear

stop begging in proxy!!!

The chess on the table is sending a message to them. The race is like a game of chess.

What?

Click like if you came here to see a new rice mill...

nakaman:
Igbos can never destroy or attack a person source of livelihood, u can only be tasked exorbitantly that u will consider leaving

Igbos can destroy your source of livelihood if you destroy theirs. Take the herdsmen for instance. So don't say Igbos can attack, if you attack Igbos, they will attack even worse.

Princewell2012:


Igbo's are not a tribal bigots. They love strangers even more than themselves. Go and make your verity. Our landlord daughter here in Lagos married to aboyi man and they are living and doing business in aba.
She told her mother that we are wonderful people, that we love them and we don't have any problem with then.
She always remind her mother these each time she want to speak ills of Igbo's

If and only if you are not hostile to us. If you are hostile to Igbos, they give it back to you many folds. If you doubt it, ask the herdsmen

fitjenzy:


The dust has almost settled after the disturbing elections in Lagos.

Peace is either returning or has returned. Maturity seems to have the upper hand and people seem to be thinking with their heads and not emotions.

What happened was strictly politics and should be limited to it. Don't carry it on your heads.

We pray it's limited to politics.


...because I know when it's related to religion between the north and south, it isn't limited to religion.

OGHENAOGIE:
what risk... In anambra founder of Onitsha business school NYSC took him there too... The issue with Igbos some of Dem is tooe much arrogance toxic pride and victimhoodnes... In imo too a doctor NYSC took there has hospital today married an Igbo woman too... Nigeria should begin deliberate way of accommodating non indigenes give Dem jobs like lagos does cos only Lagos employ non Yorubas and indigenes into civil service... kaduna did recently too...it doesn't mean undermining indigenes... U pick d best and fixed them... There's Also a particular guy NYSC took to anambra he was retain in Anambra civil service today he is a senior staff in civil service anambra...

This risk I am talking about is based on this issue some yorubas are telling Igbos to leave lagos. In this past elections, igbos and their businesses were attacked. If there should be a reprisal attack in the East here, this his business that jas been exposed on the Internet may not be spared

GeneralShepherd:


It is an objective fact that more than 50% of Nigerians live in poverty, it's not matter of opinion. Your anecdotal evidence is living in denial. Look around wherever you live, do you think it is normal for underage kids to be hawking goods in traffic?

If you keep this mindset, you will remain poor

kingyakos:




Igbos don't behave so ignorantly, they'll protect him with their life.

Did we protect the hausas/Muslims when igbos were being attacked in the North? We went after the Hausas in the East. Igbos are being attacked in Lagos. They are being intimidated against exercising their electoral franchise. They are being are being told to leave Lagos by the yorubas. Their markets and businesses are under attack. If their should be a reprisal attack just like we use to experience with the northerners, this man's business may not be spared because it has been exposed in the Internet. That's my point

Smartjob1:
You said this because you have neither visited Enugu nor known anybody from the SE as a friend. That man has 100% right as any other indigene of the state in Enugu. As a matter of fact, there are markets in the state that are governed by Hausas and Yorubas. The Mami market, New Layout Cattle market, etc are headed by Hausas and you don't hear the Igbos shouting that Hausas want to take over Enugu state. They are welcome to contribute their quote in developing the state. If you can compete with the Igbos in commerce, you are most welcome!

Haven't you asked yourself why there are specific markets in the SE? You have a market for kitchen utensils alone (ogba efere), etc? Have you heard of economics of scale? Do you know why you are able to buy some items cheaper? Not because they are produced of low quality but because the traders put resources together to buy the same item in a very large quantity?

Visit the east and stay for 6 months. I will give you free accommodation and tour guide within that period.

brother, I am an Igbo. I was born in Nsukka. I attended university primary school and spent a year at university secondary school before we relocated to Abia. I have done some jobs in Enugu Town, Abakpa, Oba. I have been to places like Opi, oji river, udi, etc. I am an 042 guy.

See the reason I said what i said.

In the past, we have had some clashes with the hausas/Muslims in the east in the form of reprisals attacks after Igbos/Christians were attacked in the North.

Today, due to elections, the same scenario is trying to play out again. Igbos are attacked in Lagos, their markets and businesses are set ablaze. If today, there is a reprisal attack on yorubas in the East, he may likely fall a victim because his business has been exposed in the Internet.

OdefaGirl:



Since 1992... No risk till now.

Read, you no gree

There is tension as some notable yoruba indigenes have told the igbos to leave lagos. Some igbos were attacked in Lagos and intimidated against voting in the last election. We even saw some markets dominated by igbos being set ablaze. Aggrieved igbos may decide to attack yoruba businesses in the East as well.

moshino:


No, it will not. He's amongst real civilized people, not tribal bigots and agberos.

We know, but bringing rhe business in the Internet and telling us he is yoruba could attracts miscreants to go after him. Have you not seen nor heard what some yorubas are saying to igbos?

Guyman01:


Igbo people don't stifle businesses they will rather want him to expand further so that they can sell books, Okpa, Gala, chairs to him and his students.
The only risk this will pose to him is that he may face competition as many will now realise that school is very profitable in that area

In recent times, we have seen the activities of unknown gun men in the S.E. following the utterances of some westerners, these UGM can extend their activities to non Igbo businesses

JealousCobra:




Igbos are progressive minded people, they won't try such just because some nonentity in the SW are misbehaving 😎

yes, that true but we know there are miscreants amongst us.

Awise09:

See the way you reasons, that's what were saying its inbuilt the state of one heart, how come some of us leaving out there are still moving freely and enjoy life in the state at which no one hear our language and we didn't hear theirs.

You didn't understand what I meant. There is tension in the land. Certain things should not be brought online for safety reason.

OVB123:
It takes capital my dear to start a business.

That's true but you can anchor with someone to raise capital.

If you are true to yourself, there are many ways to raise a capital.

For instance : A friend learnt a trade. After, he went to the village and his dad sold part of their family land, gave him the money to start the business. Today, he has his own land and house in the city.

GeneralShepherd:


Who will patronize that business when most Nigerians are broke?

Most Nigerians are not broke. Businesses are thriving oh.

You have a skill and you are looking for a job. Why not start a business with the skill?

MasterJayJay:


Mr Pessimist. Why are your thoughts always negative?

in this period of tensed tribal/political war, you think you are doing his business any good by posting it on the Internet?

This could pose a risk to him.

Modified: for those quoting me, you know that the igbos are being attacked in lagos. There were intimidations of the igbos by the yorubas during the last election. Igbo markets and businesses have been set ablaze in recent times. Igbos are being told to leave lagos and go develop the east. If there should be a reprisal attack, this post the op made about this yoruba guy could pose a danger to him. Some miscreant may decide to look for him and his business to attack.

We have seen such reprisal attacks here in the east against the northerners any time igbos/Christians are attacked in the North.

The igbos can do the same to the yorubas.

AndroidAI:


A quick question sir.

Did you inform him in advance about your appointment?

He is full time staff. His duty is to come to work everyday but due to the nature of our job, he can have up to 14 days free in a month. For those free days I don't bother them and they can use it for anything. He always takes advantage of my carefree attitude and since I am not always around, he doesn't take the job serious. For me, I don't care how and when you do my job, all I want is for you to do the job and do it very well.