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Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 8:25am On Jun 19, 2015
jimikata:
Good day, please how much is vkworld 6735?
Urgent response plz.
#32,500
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 9:03am On Jun 18, 2015
Sales ongoing:

THL 5000 @ #49,000

Jiayu S3 3GB RAM @ #47,000

Lenovo K3 note @ #40,000

Jiayu G4S @ #33,000

Elephone G7 @ #32,000

Vkworld VK700 @ #22,000

Call, SMS or Whatsapp: 08069321572 or 08080762473
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 11:55pm On Jun 17, 2015
jimikata:
Good day, please how much is vkworld 6735?
Urgent response plz.
I'll give you a quote soon
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 11:54pm On Jun 17, 2015
tonyx4x44:
how m4ch for the one plus one ?
#75,000 for 16GB and #88,000 for 64GB OnePlus one
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 10:12pm On Jun 17, 2015
Mustack:
@init thanks for your good attitude. some ppl never know how caring you are.. before buying my jiayu s3 2gig ram from init I read soon many review from jiayu es,gizchina and soon many reputable site before shelling out that money. currently the phonenis the bomb. am love every bit of the Phone ranging from camera to beauty to efficiency to smoothly name it.. battery is awesome..
@init I understand ur intention on elephone 7000 because many ppl will return and it will become a liability to you.. before getting that elephone to anybody make sure the person sign an agreement "buyers at owner risk" becose that get ish too much..
@init just help me keep that tempard glass, black and blue silicon case redy.
Bolaji, I see you
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 10:09pm On Jun 17, 2015
primeson1:
INIT....xiaomi piston 2?

do u have?

location is lagos
Good evening, issoriat.

Tell me ur location in Lagos and my boy can deliver to you quickly if you mind.
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 11:37pm On Jun 16, 2015
maxdozie:
I shame For some people!

I gave You an advice and left your thread, why are u still mentioning mehuh
You can so advice those you ran to when you left here. Shake ur head for them as well. They need and deserve it more
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 8:56pm On Jun 16, 2015
Godvilla:

[color=olive]U are welcome... U'll make a good 'wife' material cheesy[/color]
Yes, I know she will. That's why I ordered her at the cloth market grin


When she becomes my wife, I'll buy her a 'wife material'

tongue
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 8:20pm On Jun 16, 2015
Evathyst:
Lolz @ I & primeson; it's operation stalk the stalker!


Him never see anything! wink
Lol
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 7:03pm On Jun 16, 2015
tochilyn:
cheesy cheesy you don mean it.. Are you meaning it, Boss engine.. Next time you want to pass a message accros, drop your silly self praise.. You can get him a contact for the phone, like he lacks one, your s6 did that and these, you're a marketer, marketing, you're an engineer, engine.. Rubbish, I believe you have also gotten the message intended for you also.. Don't ave time quoting typing skill's, i qoute message passed accros, Pot calling kettle black..
What he did is classic Marketing 101 strategy; Firstly, seek acceptance.


The Samsung S6 analogue was the bait of acceptance.


It's good to proclaim greatness, he's an engineer like he said. Let's act accordingly.


I saw a path after maxdozie early post then sensed a pattern before he started posting but I choose to act like I didn't notice that he was 'summoned' cos they thought he has the best defence and can be considered a 'Neutral'

He's not alone
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 6:55pm On Jun 16, 2015
GogetterMD:
Bros Initialize, biko how mush will the World Xiaomi mi4 64GB version, and the cube talk 9x cost me? Thanks in advance
Cube 9x price went up. I really don't know why it did but I will still retain my old price for now though I'm not having stock. CubeTALK 9x 16GB #45,000 and #50,000 for 32GB ROM. Comes with all the available case and accessories for a tablet.

Mi4 has several variants now that you really have to keep shouting the particular one you want to the seller.

For Mi4 3GB RAM/64GB LTE version. #85,000 to Lagos



Welcome in arrears wink
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 6:49pm On Jun 16, 2015
DidiLove1:
The LeTV le1 variants all seem cool phones. The metal case is big plus over the Jiayu S3's plastic case. The Elephone matter is a different kettle of fish altogether! The LeTV le1 variants gets my vote (don't know if it has SD card support though).

NB: I have expressed my personal opinion above so no engineer or sales rep or whatever should start analyzing my opinion. Just read and move on before thunder f........
The Letv doesn't support ROM Expansion so they have it in 16GB, 32GB and 64GB ROM variant.

The Letv Le1 (x600) product for now are in their own class. No single existing phone can match it presently for design, specs and price.


***I like ur post, Concise.***
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 6:45pm On Jun 16, 2015
Godvilla:

[color=olive]They cant ship it to a personal dealer, that process has been canceled due to previous experiences.
And yea, i wrked directly with their sale rep in Africa.
So far, so good, no defective product as all went thru intensive check. All defected goods stayed in ELE main plant while those that were QC certified were shipped to Hongkong.
Thats the new system....[/color]
If this ur statement is so true then hit me up. I should see to ur claim
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 6:44pm On Jun 16, 2015
Evathyst:
If there's any other thing Initialize should be, I think it's an attorney. See how u cornered the guy until he revealed his personality.


The elephone man has said a lot already, Initialize has responded in equal measure, readers and prospective buyers have noted their points. I think @ this juncture you guys should just give it up b4 the argument turns dirty.



Meanwhile, as a fan and loyal customer of Initialize, I'll ride with him any day any time. After all, Abraham Lincoln once said 'He who knows, and knows that he knows, is a leader; follow him'.
Thank you dear.


You and Primeson1 sha! He came in before you today. Does that mean the table has turned, like you stalking him now? grin
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 6:41pm On Jun 16, 2015
[quote author=primeson1 post=34825500][/quote]Get a Jiayu S3.....

If they pitch all phones of selected Brands with same Specification and features and Jiayu is listed along side other brand I'll pick Jiayu for functionality. Elephone has the aeshestics though and that's the only reason it can be considered.

Ulefone just came out to compete with other Chinese brands so they are this under observation. The previous low quality imitations made me rate that product low but the Be touch 2 specs and design is eye catching and a good alternate to the P7000
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 2:19pm On Jun 16, 2015
teebell90:
Na by force to sell elephone ni.......hmn Coscharis is not selling peugeot and toyota and he is still making profit. Abeg Oga Initialize keep enjoying the niche you have created for yourself jare. Business is about meeting a need and how you meet it will determine your success on the long run. Success is not determined by the dollars you have in your account rather the smiles you put on your customers faces which keeps them coming back.
I have Elephone G7 for sale presently, white color. I use a P5000, black color. I've sold plenty units of P6000. G5, G6, G4, p3000s, P6i, P2000, P7 mini, P7blade, G2 and I'll still sell Elephone models.

The only thing is that a business man should be able to check his profit against is capital and also his loss to the same capital to determine the viability of the business.


That's just what I'm doing.
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 2:08pm On Jun 16, 2015
Godvilla:
[color=olive]Not what you think, they requested for my help and i offered just as i would have offered you too with pleasure. I always want to see everyone thrive in his/business, thats just me cos i was once there and now am here.
So its not the matter of self glory or self profit, its about spreading your tentacles across and thinking outside the box. Explore and be adventurous.
Anytym u need me... Just hola...
Thats the code of brotherhood wink[/color]
This particular quote wasn't right: "Dats how the cookies crumble."


If I want to order 50 units of the Elephone P7000 today, I'll order it and I won't need anyone to Pre-order or give me their money before making it happen.

I'm a marketer that considers himself as a consumer first before playing my designated role of "Seller".

I don't know how I will feel comfortable asking someone that just bought a new 50k phone to bring 5k to repair or replace a defective part the next day


I just want to be sure whatever I am offering my "family" buyers is something I can guarantee them. Elephone hasn't given me enough confidence to bouyantly say; Alright, send 20pcs of P7000 to me, Initialize directly in my Ota village. I want them to send it through my Quality Check person in China instead.

If you are their quality check officer in Nigeria and Africa, step forward and declare that you will be liable for defectives in my purchases such that I won't have to spend beyond my service budget on the batch procured.


That's how you can help.
Technology MarketRe: HOME OF TECHNOLOGIES : OCTACORE/QUADCORE PHONES, TABS, POWER BANKS...CLICK HERE by initialize(m): 1:40pm On Jun 16, 2015
tyconcepts:
God bless you all for the wishes.....100folds of all you wish me I wish you too.

Initialize....Thanks for that 7mins call a day before the D-day, it was what my grumpy nerves needed wink
You deserve more.... That it took you 3 days to be able to get out to buy data then come online shows the fitness of MrTY.


Now I don dey fear to throw kiss anyhow grin
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 12:18pm On Jun 16, 2015
Godvilla:

[color=olive]And i speak with you now, Elephone will release a new update tomorrow and can support OTA for P7000.


Changelog:
1. optimized-record
2. optimized-sensor
3. added-MiraVision display ( the world’s most comprehensive suite of display picture quality technology developed by MediaTek Inc )

Now u see what am saying, this people mean business this time around.

They stated their reason for shipping their goods back to Hongkong instead of selling it to the local China market.
I was expecting it to be business as usual wen i got the info on the new development.
A lil bit of information culd hav kept ur doubts at bay but hey! Dats how the cookies crumble.[/color]
Your conclusion says more about your mission... You don't need to make unnecessary mentions here.

You already communicated with ur previous post.


My decision not to sell a model till it comes through a verified channel is in my interest.
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 11:34am On Jun 16, 2015
Godvilla:

[color=olive]The P5000 was an epitome of the word failure
They failed drastically but i must say am very much impressed with the bat3 life of the P7000 which is currently running on Project volta by google. Power efficiency!
Almost everybody was complaining about the software bugs which Elephone hav been working on. 3 updates within a month and now they wrking on v5.1. Once u get ur complain across to them in their official forum, they reply almost immidiately.
Am waiting for the Vowney as i may be a proud owner of that device. Am impressed with the way Elephone is handling things thus far, they seem to mean business this time around.
[/color]
This ur post just soften my decision not to accept their option of shipping to me directly.


My usual practice is that I get a copy within 2 days a new phone is release and do an accessment of the device. The system Elephone adopted for the P7000 made that difficult and they didn't state their reason for that. That's why I choose to trade carefully as you know the cost of servicing a defective phone is way over the little profit one can make from it.

I have to ask questions and I concluded on the answer I got.


You've given me new answers and I will still get a review unit. I'm a careful business man and I know how to do "check and balance" smiley
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 11:21am On Jun 16, 2015
Godvilla:

[color=olive]In Spanish we say, Usted eres bienvenido - You are welcome[/color]
Thanks for this lil Spanish lesson.

Usted eres bienvenido ... Hehe! I almost bit my tongue. grin


Come around often,
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 11:17am On Jun 16, 2015
Presently, I use an Elephone P5000 as I didn't find the 5.5 inches Jiayu S3 handy (I'm used to compact phones)

A 3450mah Battery Elephone may not outlast 3000mah Jiayu as shown with this P5000 which boast of a 5450mah battery which can't stand the THL5000's 5000mah.

If I'm sure that I'm getting a full, unaltered paper specs in its Hard form then I'll feel safe and unbothered.


That's what my China rep ensures, she's my designated quality controller and anything she passes is pure
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 11:05am On Jun 16, 2015
2baga I dey find ur number.... Abeg contact me now.
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 11:05am On Jun 16, 2015
Godvilla:

[color=olive]Due to previous experiences between Elephone and her customers, they have decided to change the tone of the music.
They have agents designated for each continent. I'll seclude the identity of the sale rep in charge of shipping goods to Africa. I followed the process of P7000 religiously and i must say, i was satisfied with the scrutinised checkup etc but was a bit disappointed with the OTA update they culdnt fic in the stock rom. Nevertheless, they've fixed that loophole.
And b/w the S3 advance and p7000, i'll still vouch for the P7000. Go back to ur drawing board and u may see reasons with me over my choice.
Also... Am GODvilla de Hacker A.K.A X-GRAVITY. Am no HLC. Cheers and have a wonderful day ahead[/color]
Alright.... Godvilla. I see were your opinion is shot from. Thanks for coming in.... I still haven't seen a unit of the p7000 to consider myself enough critic, my opinion was drawn from their reluctancy to ship through the usual channel and online feedbacks from unbiased users. I just want them to ship it through my channel as its the safest for my business capacity.

Nothing against Elephone.
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 10:57am On Jun 16, 2015
Godvilla:

[color=olive]Hope u know the LeTV le1 is not in the same league with Jiayu S3?
Its got much class with latest technology and SoC, hence my reason for mentioning the Elephone Vowney which to be frank is better than the Letv le1 and on par with the Le Max but i still vouch for the Vowney due to its unprecedented specs that will favour wide variety of Android users (bat3, sd card option).
I dnt rule out trying ur hands on other devices but just u'v stated with the Jiayu s3, one must hav his priority which is more likely to fetch him more profit.
Wish u all the best in ur endeavours...[/color]
Its in trade to keep tech secrets when necessary but if put to par with equals, no matter the storage allocation, the no. of slots et al. It won't still ball in Letv's league.


Answer if you are HLC or drop ur whatsapp line or chat me here 08069321572
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 10:43am On Jun 16, 2015
Godvilla:

[color=olive]Iv heard alot about this uproar on NL about Elephone and other brands which you happen to be the orchestrator.
Well, to the best of my knowledge, ur list there aint concrete enough, the only company i can demand a direct transaction with is Xiaomi. And if u really want to have this Elephone, i can put u thru a reliable source where u'll have nothing to worry about. But judging by ur rants and posts, i dnt think u're interested in it anymore but that shuould not be a standing rock for you to speak sarcastically about something you really dont have a personal experience of. Elephone P7000 is on high demands as we speak, and they are working on releasing another OTA update to squash recent bugs found in the current sw version. They have beef up their game and am impressed with their after sales services.
Forget abt ur previous bad experiences with previous Elephone devices. Even the almighty Sammy, HTC, LG and co started with flaws and see where they are, yet they are not perfect becos most of their devices are buggy too. Albeit, they push a fix via OTA. Which should be a yardstick for measuring up a company that is ready to receive a long standing ovation from its customers and competitors alike.
Tell me, Does Tecno offer OTA update to its customers? I guess ur answer is no, yet people keep buying their device even with old chips and technology and high price tag, yes u may cum up with calcare but i must say their calcare reeks of mediocrity.
Dats just how it is in the mobile world, no device is perfect.[/color]
I just saw this....



I haven't had enough enough of elephone and I didn't say I'll stop selling their phone.


I ordered 10pcs of the P7000 through my partner but she informed me that Elephone refused to send the phones through her and will instead send it directly to me in Nigeria so I asked her to cancel the order


I know my business capacity so I don't want Elephone to push their phone directly to me.

If by tomorrow she calls me and say, they have agreed to send it through her. I'll simply ask her to re-order it.

I have absorb some losses from not so good devices sent to me and most are from Elephone. I'm just trying to be wise cos the P7000 is overpriced for an Elephone release that runs that features the same hardware as the Jiayu S3 Advance except for the touch ID.


I sell and use Elephone product but its not the best in its category, its thrives only on affordability so as Tecno




....:::::You do sound like HLC in this quote. Are you HLC?::::....
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 10:34am On Jun 16, 2015
Godvilla:

[color=olive]3000mAh non removeable bat3?
no sd card option?

Will it favour your customers?
Selah![/color]
It's not the only phone I offer its a choice thing with customers. Oneplus one, Meizu M1 note, Xiaomi Mi3 and Mi4 are all mono sim phones with non-removable battery that has sold tangible quantities.

The Letv le1 is an option to those that desire it.


Jiayu S3 is my 3GB RAM MTK 6752 pick
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 10:12am On Jun 16, 2015
Godvilla:

[color=olive]Have u taken out time to extensively review the LeTV le1?
U see.... U're a marketer just like me but i must confess, am more than just a marketer, i am the internet. Call it whatever u wish.
Am an engineer by profession and iv dedicated half of my life on technology. U dnt just dive into conclusions like that and expect it to be all rosery.
Check out the LeTV le1 and Elephone Vowney. Make a thorugh review, comapre and contrast and ask yourself, which will my customers here in Nigeria crave for?
Make your final analysis and make way for a hit on the goal post.
Am always here to be of a great assitance to you and anybody out there... Albeit, i seldom visit NL, but i can make out time.
Cheers!!![/color]
Do you know that Elephone has a licensed distributor in Nigeria?

You might need to know the amount of returns they get from their sales.

The man baring the returns knows he has the capacity and that's why he's able to continue. I know my capacity and as a business, I shouldn't trade beyond that.


I have customers that still want to buy the P7000 from me but until Elephone agrees to ship through my channel that will help test the defect their QC normally neglect I will stay with the models that pass through the channel.

I've done the Letv Le1 review before recommending it. I also have a listing for an uncommon brand; The Vkworld vk700. I'm not the one that dispair lesser brands but I usually filter through their releases to ensure my customers are always satisfied with whatever they get.


I'm not just a business man to my customers.... I'm their relative and we relate anytime of the day.
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 8:37am On Jun 16, 2015
hassanAde:
Just saw this thread discussing elephone via Google, I was expecting a good review to make we wanna buy d fone but all l can get is crop, discouraged. My question to those here is, has there ever being a phone that's 100% OK out of the box, if there is, then lemme know, I'll surely get such. I don't know much about find but I do follow up, my galaxy s6 edge overheats and kills opened apps in less than 30s, d battery management too is crappie, yet I'm using it, went thru elephone forum, observed they released 2 updates within a month th of release which I still believe a newer update would b released anytime soon, but what u guys r doing here is discouraging, already ordered one of these fone as a 2nd fone to my s6, and I believe it'll serve it's purpose, a friend using it already, and I love it, smooth, fast, great design, does everything I can do on my s6. Encourage rather than discourage. Goodluck
My intention isn't to discourage those interested in buying the phone. I just sound out my reason to those awaiting my stock so that they could buy from me.

I didn't say I won't retail the phone if they agree to follow the usual channel (sending it to someone in China to test and then forward it to me) I simply don't trust Elephone as a company to want their product sent from them directly to me as the cost of processing a return, if required is more from Nigeria than the cost if returned from China.


A bad unit can swallow the profit from the entire batch that's why I'm careful.


Onto brands that I'm sure I can buy from China with no middle-man:

Xiaomi

Letv

Lenovo

Jiayu

THL

Umi

Meizu

OPO

Oppo


I sell Elephone products but I'm only being honest and that's how I like to do business. It gives rest of mind.
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 7:39am On Jun 16, 2015
maxdozie:
Make Una they Here they Wine Mouth!..
Me I like the Mentions ...

Still Enjoying my P7000


But Mr Initialize Stop Discouraging people from Buying the device That's all I know..
Have a nice Day!
I didn't post anywhere else except on my thread so u saying I'm discouraging people from buying is an unguided statement.

What you could av done constructively since you are enjoying one is to analyze the phone to people like me that only smell the aroma and haven't taste the meal is to share ur experience with us to refute other users claim(s).
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 5:07am On Jun 16, 2015
If you have money and want to get a 3GB RAM phone still buy the Jiayu S3 Advance. It just got the lollipop update and the review is great.

Lenovo's Vibe UI based on Lollipop runs smoothly, you can buy any of the Lollipop phone.


Letv Le1 (x600) is the MTK phone to desire presently.

I'm awaiting my refund which I'll use to buy the Letv Le1 or Meizu M2 Note.
Technology MarketRe: NAIRALAND MOBILE HQ[Android Authority] 3GB RAM PHONES*TABLETS*SMARTWATCH* inside by initialize(op): 4:58am On Jun 16, 2015
funkyjms:
From what I read, especially on their FB page, most people are complaining that they have not receive the phone, almost a month the orders have been placed. Though, I never get to know whether these complaints are from retailers you're referring to or customers that their orders were shipped via airways.

What did you discover and why did Elephone chooses to ship directly to customers via DHL?
Retailers have no idea when the phone will ship. If you pay to anyone, they forward the money to the Elephone company. Elephone are entirely in charge of the testing, packaging and dispatching of the phone to everyone and they've chosen not to ship the P7000 to China which is a huge surprise cos most order are made through China.

2-3 out of 10 Elephone products comes out of the box defective and that's even after I have instructed my partners to do a thorough check before sending to me. So I choose not to take risk with this one that there's no one to help inspect as elephone has eliminated that option.

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