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Macphenson:
So all of a sudden, you are suporting ths same Adamu you called a looter and cursed people that supported him?

This same Adamu from PDP you curse everyday?

Chaii truly hunger bad.

Sorry kid, keep hustling ur 30K salary

That dude no get common sense

Truthisunique3:
Seunmsg arewanorth how far

Dem don run go hide. Those ones no sabi Buhari

PrinceOfLagos:
Because he didn't support Tinubu and his useless ambition abi ?

Una never see anything
Na part 1 be dis , part two will shock you guys at the convention on Saturday

Don't mind those wailers

PrinceOfLagos:
Buhari don silence his lousy sermons with Abdullahi adamu as consensus candidate

All of them have gone into hiding . Buhari just dey play dem like football. Today, "Buhari endorsed Adamu". Tomorrow, "Buhari has clamped down on his support for Adamu. Backs no one". During convention, Buhari to APC wailers: "Support Adamu as consensus or leave the party to ACN"

Cryofigbos:
U don't even know what consensus means.....its unfortunate that most of u started seeing interest in political drama yesterday and u think u know it all from ur hut in abakaliki......oyegun and oshiomole was a consensus and no one contested against them, anything consensus means it has been agreed for a particular candidate....anybody can win including adamu, dis is a chairmanship position of a divided party so anything can happen......bello is in charge of d affairs of APC nw and buni was only tolerated due to inec guidelines and to avoid constitutional consequences.......u can keep bringing ur imagination to d public but just know u have little or no idle of what is going on aside d nonsense u guys come online to always write

If adamu wins u will say d president will handpicked d presidential candidate too abi?

What were you saying?

[quote author= post=111312665]You should know by now that ALL Our posts/comments here is oy for sane, sensible and useful members on this forum.

You don't need to read from us nairaland.com kiddo.
Have a nice day.[/quote]I'm just saying today's sermon no choke like other days. Today, we no hear any talk of "PDP couldn't build national secretariat" blah blah blah

YoungLionken:
PMB might be the worst president in the history of Nigeria so far but, when it comes to command as a men, he got game..

See how he placed his wife where she belongs, unlike Jonathan whose wife was busy granting press conference here and there, hence, the embarrassment and all...

No lies here sha. Dude get game. Whatever he wants, he gets with stealth

[quote author= post=111312553]Anything to move our darling nation forward is all we want @[color=#006600][/color].

Nigeria will succeed.

GOD bless all sane, honest and hardworking Nigerians.

God bless Nigeria.[/quote]You no come write full sermons today. Lmao

popesco123:
I thought they disqualified Adamu and buhari is not endorsing him any more as chairman?

He wasn't disqualified. And actually, it seems CPC wants someone from their clique to be president. Adamu na PDP man

Osilama1:
so u are saying in the entire south no body in PDP can convince Nigerians to vote for Dem... So why are igbos disturbing us with zoning noise??

Few igbos for social media. The vast majority no send. Na to make money dem know

Osilama1:
Naso Ina deceive atiku till he lost 2019... So u think APC won't get votes even in South South next year no far Ina go still de cry of rigging when APC finally win... U assume PDP ll win Kano with ganduje in power u are joking no need conversing with u

You're just blabbing since. No one says APC is going to win or not. The point is clear. If PDP field a southerner, it will be easy victory for APC. If they field a northerner, it will be hotly contested. I don tire to dey talk abeg

Osilama1:
PDP can field whoever they want it's their headache but pple should stop assuming a Northerner or Atiku as PDP candidate is a huge advantage... APC is still very formidable in North East, West, parts of South West and North Central... By d way self by zoning it's d north that should produce candidate for PDP while for APC it's the south...

Oga, it's not assumption. It's reality. A northerner in PDP is huge advantage compared to a southerner. Let's not argue this thing too much. A south eastern is a waste of time really. A South south person will only pull votes from SS and maybe from the 5% SE. He will not even challenge those states that APC are "formidable" in. A northerner will still get the votes of SE, SS and a chunk from those APC states. PDP should be sensible

Osilama1:
we ll be here to remind you guys... Perhaps u don't know that APC isn't APGA... If atiku can't get considerable votes in North Central he ll lose cos he won't get North East and West it's APC strong hold with osinbajo or tinubu they ll beat Atiku there except taraba and adamawa Atiku can win easily but continue yarning opata sha

Lol. All these long talks. Point is, only Atiku or a northerner in PDP can attempt to compete against any Southerner in APC at this time. PDP would be making a huge mistake of fielding a southerner for the elections. If they do, automatic failure awaits them. We wait to see what decisions they'll take

aribisala0:
Shows you do not understand the constitution

You do not win by simple majority , in my experience nearly 100% of Nigerian university graduates hold this erroneous belief . All states are equal just like you can only get 3 points from a football game even if you win 9 -0

To win you must get 25% of votes cast in 24 states. Simple majority only comes into it where the first round is undecisive and there would be a rerun between the first two candidates then simple majority comes into it.

Otherwise the dominant principle is SPREAD which indicates acceptance across many states so if one candidate gets 25% in 24 states it is possible that he does not have simple majority but he will win the election if no other candidate gets 25% in 24 states so it s theoretically possible to get majority if you win 95% in Kano , Lagos, Katsina , Kaduna and maybe 7 other states but a guy with more states and fewer votes could become president . The so called "popular vote" conundrum.

A number of US presidents have emerged that did not win the popular vote. e.g Trump
Our system is a bit different but that just shows that theoretically you can win presidency without winning majority. What is important is to be on ground everywhere and even if you lose a state make sure you get 25%
The sad thing is when such a situation occurs in future everyone will start we no go gree because they have not studied the law.

Long talks. Atiku or any northerner has a higher chance of getting 25% in 24 states than any Southerner in PDP. It's a simple matter. PDP will be stupid to give a SS or SE somebody the ticket

Nchenches:
Foxes like you want us to start the history of Nigeria's political leadership from 1999.

All these long turanci. I like how you haven't tried to argue my points. You know it's valid.

deeLima86:
You have made a valid point but that Tambuwal utterances is a total understatement. With the necessary support any region can produce a president in Nigeria. After given the north 8yrs, it is right to demand power change in the country unless the pdp so called law supersede the Nigerian people in entirety.

Tambuwal has denied making such utterances. Probably the work of mischief makers.

aribisala0:
There is an element of contradiction and illogic in your submission
Buhari contested against Yaradua and Atiku among others so we cannot attribute his large following just to being a Northerner but rather to a Buhari factor that does not apply to EVERY Northerner

My point is there are 19 states in the North

In 2011 Jonathan defeated Buhari in
Adamawa
Benue
Kogi
Kwara
Nasarawa
Plateau
Taraba

Buhari has been the most popular politician at the polls in Northern history and yet Jonathan defeated him in 7 out of 19 states in 2011 so what is your point?

Those northern states are inconsequential, same way SE is inconsequential in the south . Kano alone fit cover like 4 of those northern states you mentioned. Oga, a southerner can not ho against someone like Tinubu in APC or even Osinbajo. Only a northerner can

Christistruth00:
What about the other times Buhari Contested ?

Northerners were strong PDP members those years. That's why he lost. When the northern big fish turned against GEJ, it was game over for him.

Osilama1:
see how funny u sound so south is divided into three while North is one... Kai how do u guys reason self... We have north east, west and central APC ll win North East and West hands down they ll battle PDP in North Central ok so stop thinking PDP with an Atiku ll stroll... Try read small ok

Who come dey North Central? Oga, Atiku will shake things in both North East and North West. He'd do far better than any Southerner in those regions. This is simple calculation.

aribisala0:
Please breakdown this "political might" what does it mean.

The constitution is clear to win Presidency you need 25% of the votes from 24 states so even if a Northern candidate gets all 19 states in the North they would still need 5 from the south

Historically no candidate has got all 19 states so they would still need southern votes
So your permutation is not based on reality

The North has never voted as a block

In 1979 there were 10 states in the North and 9 in the south .To win one needed 25% in 13 states .Shagari only managed to get 7 in the North and 5 in the South he did not win Kano (Kano + Jigawa today ) or Kaduna( Kaduna +Katsina today) Zik actually won Plateau
In 1999 Bashir Tofa lost his home state Kano to Abiola

So this idea of Northern votes is funny The North have never voted as one.
I do not see Benue voting for a Fulani man in 2023

Check Buhari's votes in the north since he started contesting elections. This should tell you one or two things . Nigeria is not what it used to be in the 70s and 90s. Buhari has so divided this nation along ethnic lines. Scream of restructuring has put the north in its toes. Everybody wants to support his brother now. No northerner will vote in a southerner in PDP. Even in states like Plateau, Benue, Taraba, etc, will be almost 50:50. Now is not time to experiment. PDP must field a northerner

00FFT00:
And what do you call the amalgamation of Buhari's CPC and Tinubu's ACN?

Like it's Tinubu's ACN that joined alone. ANPP was a party to be reckoned with too. They joined. N-PDP too. Tinubu did not single handedly bring in Buhari. If not for PDP members, GEJ would still have won

Christistruth00:
Even Baba Buhari couldn’t reach the Presidency till he stood on Tinubu’s Shoulders on the 4th attempt

The northerners in PDP, who ganged up against GEJ made Buhari to win, not Tinubu. Go back to the election results

unite4real:
check the northern states results of atiku vs buhari for the 2019 election and see how far behind Atiku was. It was the southan Nigeria that propelled Atiku with the high votes. So if the south is undermined in 2023 election, there could be voter apathy in the south.

https://www.tekedia.com/final-results-of-nigerias-presidential-election-by-states-apc-19-pdp-18/

Buhari is a god in the north. Atiku did very well in that election. If it was a southerner, he for no smell the results he got in the north. The north loves their own and this talk of restructuring will motivate them to vote in their brother. The south is divided like I said. The SW wants something different from the SE and SS. The north should capitalize and use it to their advantage

Reference:
The East doesn't have the numbers.
It can only happen as someone above said, if the two parties zone the ticket to that region.
Purely affirmative action.

Well, no party will do that at this time. Let PDP field a northerner abeg

heniford2:
2023 if them no give eastern presidency we no dey vote anything

You people are 5% abeg. Una votes no dey count. How many came out to vote during Anambra's gubernatorial election? Two hundred thousand?? Omo. We the north, together with the SS will vote for a northerner who would remove APC

bigcasava1:
so other regions don't have better candidate?

They do. But they don't have the political might to overthrow APC. We want a northerner to help us dislodge APC

SmartPolician:
Nigeria didn't have an opposition party in 2011. The day a serious opposition was created, Jonathan was defeated. If the PDP wants to take over power, they must make a northerner a flagbearer. That's the bitter truth.

You are really a smart politician

simpleseyi:
South-South or South-East can.

Presidency must come to the South, be it Ijaw, Ibiobio, Itshekiri, Igbos, Ikwerre, Yoruba, Benin or whomsoever, it must come to the South. Anybody that says otherwise will die before the next election. Ogun, Sango, Oya and Obatala will kill anybody that opposes zoning the Presidency to the South.

SO, let PDP zone it to the South first. APC too will zone it to the South. We in the South will knw how to sort ourselves.

PDP will zone to the north. You southerners should sort yourselves, while we in the north sort ourselves. That's all we want

unite4real:
Ask what MKO Abiola did to Tofa.

There are many in the south that command more respect and followers in the North than even Tambuwal and Atiku

This is not 1993 o. Be calming down. Atiku's results in the last election, despite facing off with a northern god speaks a lot

David4best:
But Goodluck Jonathan defeated Buhari with a very large margin in 2011 presidential election where majority of Muslims voted for Buhari and majority of Christians voted for Goodluck Jonathan.(i.e the voting was purely along regional and religious lines) Nigerians have short memories

CPC was a regional party at the time. It couldn't win presidential elections. To steal power from APC, PDP can not afford to risk things or experiment. PDP should field a northerner and coast to victory

deeLima86:
Imagine his myopic way of reasoning. So Nigeria will not function again if the north make up their mind to allow the presidency come from another region after 8yrs of Buhari failure??

PDP is not APC. According to the zoning law of PDP, na northerner we suppose present now. But the northerners in the party are not greedy. They just ask that the ticket be left open. Pretty magnanimous in my opinion

Beedude:
You just said no region can win election without support of others.
You also said SS can not win an election.
What is difficult in the North supporting a SS candidate?
You are really contradicting yourself guy

If that southerner is from APC, they might support him. But from PDP, lai lai. Like others have said, now is not time for experiment. When power returns to PDP, we'd discuss rotation as we always did