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Dinieoj:
I'm also from South south, you're very correct,if they wanna win go for the north ticket.

Truth is, apart from the governors, the citizens in SS would rather the party goes for a northerner. They are not sentimental. They know how politics works

Nchenches:
But Tambuwal and other northern presidential aspirants want to exploit the skewed and lopsided political structure of Nigeria created by northern Nigeria through its military dictators to now upset zoning and make a northerner to succeed President Buhari.
They are not working for unity of Nigeria.
Zoning of the presidency between the north and the south has been there since 1999, and is necessitated by the skewed political structure favoring only Fulani-led northern politicians.

There's nothing like zoning in our constitution. Na parties create this zoning talk. PDP's last president was from the south. According to zoning inside the party, a northerner deserves it now. But still the north wants everyone to try his luck and see. Tbh, they're being fair

anytexy:
Bitter truth. South East can not win except the two major political party APC and PDP zone to South East. I am from south East. Sentiment aside. PDP need power now not time to experiment with south East.

A sensible south easterner you are. People don't understand this. Now is not time to experiment. That's what APC wants. They know Atiku lost in 2019 because he contested against a god in the north. If he is to go against a southerner, APC knows he has a higher chance of winning. PDP should be wise and not fall to APC's tricks

Titogbanski:
South East can win if both parties can pick their Presidential candidates from the South East...just as it was done in the 1999 elections were both parties picked their candidates from the West as a way of addressing the ill-feelings brought about by the annulment of the June 12 elections

No one is going to do this bro. The East are not ready on either PDP or APC

Maxymilliano:
PDP best shot at the Presidency is through Abubakar Atiku

Thats why Tinubu urchins are afraid of an Atiku's ticket. If Atiku is wise, he should pick someone from Delta as his Vice. Straight victory

animationagency:
Neither tanbuwal or saraki can win too. Even atiku can just try,If BAT win presidential slot, it will be so difficult for him cos ss/se will feel betrayed and won't commit to it. Why can't they be unselfish and support any candidate from the South with all their might?
And they think that without the support of ss/se, they can also win?. If ss/se leaders become lackadaisical in promoting any northern presidential candidate, that will be the end of their potential taking over. They will just repeat what sw did to buhari in 2011;vote pdp for state positions, vote apc for presidential positions. Its all about regional interest now. Nigeria is already divided within region lines. Time will tell.

Even though it comes down to just the SW and the north, you should know how the results will swing . Also, forget ss/se, they'll rather not vote than vote APC. PDP go still win for there. If PDP wants to have a chance, they must present a northerner. If they present someone from SE, that's automatic loss. Even someone from SS will only get votes from SS and SE. The north and SW will vote for APC. PDP should be wise. The south is divided already. The north is united. Take advantage of that and present a northerner. The North's vote will be enough

seunmsg:
Absolute nonsense. Jonathan won the election in 2011 so what’s he saying?

Is Tambuwal saying the north cannot vote for a southern PDP candidate despite having the presidency for 8 years? Why then should the south vote for a northern PDP candidate when they can’t do the same to us?

The greed of Northern PDP leaders is unbelievable. They must think southerners are stupid. They simply want to cheat the south of what truly belongs to the them and it’s left for southern PDP leaders to respond. Since APC is presenting a southern candidate, I see no reason why PDP should not do the same. In a battle of two southern candidates, I don’t see any reason why PDP should be scared.

Omo. The fear is real. Focus on APC abeg. We know what's better in PDP. We'd get power first (by bringing in a northerner), then discuss zoning rules afterwards. In fact, that's the right thing to do. Obj was a southerner. He ruled for 8 years. GEJ was a southerner, he ruled for 4 years, plus the almost 2 years as acting president. Yaradua was the only northerner. He ruled for only about 2¹/2 years. It's a northerner we want now. And yes, we are scared of southerner-southerner candidate. We'd bring a northerner. Let's fight to the death.

biggtonny:
I'm from the south south. The very truth of the matter is that if PDP wants to win the next presidential election, it is logical it picks a very strong candidate from the north. That is the bitter truth.

I just hope PDP members think this way. When you get power back, you can now discuss fairness. In fairness sef, na north suppose get PDP now. Southerners have ruled more years under PDP than their northern brothers

[quote author= post=111260828]SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now barely 5 months to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one and a half tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary mentions from nonentities.
As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu. [/quote]Is the fool who wrote this having good governance under APC? That's the million dollar question. , please help me ask him

[quote author= post=111260824]YEMI OSINBANJO.
A MAN OF THE PEOPLE.

God bless our amiable Vice president Prof Yemi Osinbajo.

The man wey sabi....

STARBOY AND ZULUM 2023.

All sane, honest and hardworking Nigerians dey una back gidigba......


Thanks Chief Kay!
We can see you want the progress of our nation,
Unlike some people (dem know themselves )

Btw, we no be brother o,
We are simply WE.


STARBOY AND ZULUM we want.

STARBOY AND ZULUM we shall get come 2023.

We have not offended anyone by Supporting Osinbajo, but anyone who takes our decision personal should kindly chill out!

The last thing we will do as Progressives is to engage is a smear campaign or promote any post that can lead to the Character Assassination of Tinubu or any other Contender of the APC Ticket.

We are MANNA, and WE STAND WITH PROFESSOR YEMI OSINBAJO until the party says otherwise.

Thanks.


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God bless our Vice President.
Our incoming President in Jesus name,
Insha Allah.




A better Nigeria all around is all we want.
A better Nigeria all around is what we shall encounter.
Nigeria will succeed.
God bless Nigeria.


Our own @MANNABBGRILLS come 2023 be say :

Starboy and Zulum for 2023.


Our own @[/b] be say : STARBOY & Zulum for 2023.

Osinbajo, The great Man.

Our own @[b] be say : STARBOY and ZULUM all da Way.

Come 2023 BGG,
STARBOY and ZULUM we dey for una.
Whether the evil ones like it or not,
Nigeria will succeed.


Our Combo is actually a well selected great Combo to move our nation forward.
That being said,,
Chief Topmaike,
We no too know about this APC revalidation tin o.
We are not actually a card carrying member of any political party in Nigeria.
The only 2 guys we love in Naija politics are our darling Daddy and his amiable Vice.
Now, Zulum has joined the rank.
We only go to the polls on election day to cast our votes for good, honest men that meant well for the nation, no matter the party they are.
And you don't have to be a party member to do that.

But in the past one month, we have noticed how all the top big wigs and non-politicians alike are all joining APC in their various Constituencies, from Governors, to Businesses owners and Entrepreneurs.
We are looking and researching about the good ones among them already.


We sane, good, honest and hardworking Nigerians will do all in our power to make this Combo work.
That is why we all must come together.

Nigeria will be great again in our lifetime


We Love him too.
Only fraudsters, criminals, thieves and losers in life don't like him obviously .
The same nuisances that do not like sane, good and honest members here.
Two time losers.

God bless our amiable Vice president Prof Yemi Osinbajo.
God bless Nigeria.

Our own @[/b] be say : [b]STARBOY and ZULUM all da Way.

Come 2023 BGG,
STARBOY and ZULUM we dey for una.
Whether the evil ones like it or not,
Nigeria will succeed.


We sane, good, honest and hardworking Nigerians will do all in our power to make this Combo work.
That is why we all must come together.

Nigeria will be great again in our lifetime

PYO : Man of the people.... Sane people we mean.
Sane, honest and hardworking Nigerians.


Now, clap for yasef


God bless you too crucial gem
You are truly a rare gem on this forum.


If you are a progressive and the person that pray for the good of Nigeria,
We will say, you are a great man!




Gbamsolutely! You've said it all.
Those are the same ipobs calling him a mere commissioner and house boy for the last 6 years.
We have been declaring and supporting STARBOY and Zulum for the past 3 years, they never commented or support our posts, but suddenly, since last week Monday that JAGABAN OF AFRICA declared,
They started shouting Osinbajo's name.
Hypocritical mofos and cannibals everywhere.
Wailers are hypocrites, as we've always said here.

They are still waiting for dem Atiku to declare,


God bless our darling STARBOY and JAGABAN The King maker.
We know 100% if not for JAGABAN Bogu, along with the ALMIGHTY GOD's Power,
Our Darling Daddy and our amiable Vice president Prof Yemi Osinbajo wouldn't be where they are since 2015.
Despite the billions that the looting criminals spent.,
They still lost woefully.[/quote]Long, stupid post

mcmbonu:
No region can win election without the support of others

I'm from the south south. The very truth of the matter is that if PDP wants to win the next presidential election, it is logical it picks a very strong candidate from the north. That is the bitter truth

I was telling someone this same thing this morning

Olatunji1929:
south south/south east can not win presidency for pdp unless apc also pick their presidential candidate from South thats the fact

Unless APC picks from South south/South east

lalasticlala:

Guard of Honour for Mr President, President Muhammadu Buhari, The Father of the Nation, The Leader of the Giant of Africa. @MBuhari 🇳🇬 🇳🇬🇳🇬#PMBInLagos pic.twitter.com/pZPtaWHNPq

— Jubril A. Gawat (@Mr_JAGs) March 22, 2022

I love Buhari

APC will not see 2024. Know this and know peace

princdebola201:
mkpurumiri youth re very shallow in politics.
Nobody can become a president without support of govs .
On the day of election the presidential candidates can't be present at the 36 states of the federation. It is the state govs that controls state party machinery for the election.

That was how APC won 2015 election. Majority of Northern PDP govs worked for Apc to win their state

APC didn't win 2015 because of governors. You no sabi any politics . The common men in the streets inserted APC in 2015. Only someone politically naive will think otherwise. Like I said, the governors have a big say in primary elections. Main elections isn't up to them. It's why even though governors in the north where under PDP, the people on the streets continuously voted Buhari prior to 2015. Learn politics

colorsofrainbow:
Umahi heart go dey beat like person wey trek to Aso rock from Abakiliki as we speak

I'm telling you

princdebola201:
the custodian of PDP in south south region re saying PDP will fail if the ticket goes to north meanwhile a nonentity that probably doesnt have pvc or know who is ward chairman says otherwise.


South south is the back bone of PDP till date.

PDP will die the day south south region turns back against it.
It happened in bayelsa when the people turned their back against pdp and the party lost gubernatorial election on ballot for the first time since 1999.

There is already a forcaste that pdp will loose in south south states if it zone presidency to North.
South south re not slaves to PDP

These governors have no say in real time elections. Their say ends during primaries. SS will always vote PDP. Nothing will change that. Even Tinubu urchins are fasting and praying that PDP doesn't give a northerner. They know they'll win easily if their opposition is a southerner

He will win easily. Delta people love money. He just needs to throw the money around

cktheluckyman:
chief supporter!! This one is looking for an easy candidate for his paymaster Tinubu

You sabi. Dude dey fear Atiku

cktheluckyman:
unity beggars.Hypocrites!! Tinubu if at all he will get the APC ticket will definitely contest against a Northerner

That's the only way the elections will be tough. If Tinubu faces another Southerner in PDP, he will win flawlessly. If he faces a northerner, omo, he will lose. Tinubu urchins know this. That's why the hate any talk of Atiku or another northerner

HIGHESTPOPORI:
so ss will now vote for apc and tinubu that betrayed Jonathan in 2015?

Don't mind them. Even if a northerner us picked in PDP, he will still win massively in SS. They'll rather vote Atiku than vote Tinubu

seunmsg:
I’m supporting Wike for president. The PDP presidential ticket should be automatically given to him.

Lmao. The way yorubas and Tinubu urchins dey fear Atiku or any northerner eh . Very laughable. If PDP can read the room, they need to give a northerner the ticket. That's the only way to win APC

Parachoko:
The way you people talk is so funny

Block vote from the South East? Yes

But let the PDP forget about a block vote from the South South.

Well, I'm glad 2023 is not far again.

Atiku contested and lost in 2019

Is not only Atiku that have the solution to Nigeria problem.

If the PDP won't give the ticket to the South South

Then the APC will continue to rule.

If PDP gives it to SS, APC will win easily

Ttalk:
The only way PDP can stand a chance against APC is to give it's ticket to SS

Not true. If they give SS, SS and SE alone with vote. SW, and the entire north will vote for APC. If they give it to a core northerner, the north will vote for their own and they will need one southern region to add to their votes. Easy win for PDP.

Ttalk:
It is getting interesting. Let see how SE would react if PDP concede it's ticket to South South

They'll vote massively for that person. South East hate Tinubu and APC with all their hearts . Those people carry GEJ for their head. They are fine with SS

gredenco1:
Hatred did not allow you to know that Peter Obi is from South East.

Na mumu man

Hisbah21:
PDP will not zone it there,and by the way who in the SS can be competitive to even clinch the presidency. Peter Obi?

Learn about your country. Peter Obi is no from SS

Nonpartisan1:
I think from the look of things, the votes Atiku or Tambuwal would get from the South will be from Ndimkpuru Mmiri people.

Asiwaju Tinubu after clinching the Ticket of the APC, will unify the South, and that will be final burial of the IPOB party called PDP.

I like the fact, that South South people have completely detatched themselves from Ndi Afghaneasthern...

We'd rather support the north than Tinubu . Anyways, both PDP and APC will present a candidate from the South south region, so it's all good

eguarojeona:
Check anytime you say north its always the hausa fulani that is always coming forth.The kogi,kwara,benue,taraba,plateau and the northern minorities are left out.The south can join with them and forever leave out the hausa fulani always scheming to lead everytime.They will never smell poweragain.

These states are not block states. Yobe, Kaduna, Kano, Kastina, Borno, Zamfara etc are block states in the north. They are the ones that matters. Then too, in states like plateau you mentioned, fulanis play a part in the voting system. So you would always have a divide. The Hausa Fulani can never be left out. Not when the SW loves and crave for their alliance

Salvador1:
he may be chopping ban.

Not maybe. He is. Same as

Fairmedia:
You are a pig, I regret ever being in same nation as pigs like you...no values, dumb headed fools, lack of respect and being slaves to money will destroy your East...it is burning already, refugees

Soon no place for your mama and papa to live in the villages, they will come to Lagos to start begging like your Fulani cousins.

The East is already overpopulated. No place to see land build

Fairmedia:
You are a pig, I regret ever being in same nation as pigs like you...no values, dumb headed fools, lack of respect and being slaves to money will destroy your East...it is burning already, refugees

Soon no place for your mama and papa to live in the villages, they will come to Lagos to start begging like your Fulani cousins.

There's no refugee camp in the South East.