₦airaland Forum

owobokiri:
When cultists have managed to get deep into governments and security agencies. You didn't watch the Rivers House of Assembly clash that year? Everyone shouting "aro mate". Some top dogs in strategic agencies used to be hardcore cultists when they were in school. This is a problem that could have been nipped in the bud during the military years when it reared its ugly head. Imagine sending a police cultist to go and arrest some active cultists who happen to be members of his cult group in the uni. E be tinz shaa. Na revolution go save us for this country.

The cultists will be part of the revolution?

Zionmdde:
Let them take responsibilities for raising the cultists and useless boys
You give birth to children and you refuse to raise them well. The boys become agberos cultists and yahoo boys, the girls become hookups yahoo boys gf and cultists. Who are you protesting to?

Before you ask what about men? Men have minor roles to play in child raising when compared to women. Most times they are out there fighting for daily bread and even when they want to discipline their kids, you see women being Over protective.

Even though some idiots who call themselves fathers but can't control their families are also to take blames

A father don't have "minor role" in raising a child, it's a father's duty and responsibility to guide his child and show him core values in life, values like ; integrity, empathy, morals, ethics, etc etc are taught to children by fathers, the ideology that a father has a minor role in raising a child is why society keeps sinking.

We were waiting for a man to deliver something some years ago, he took so long and when he came, I asked him why the unnecessary delay he said he ran into a military convoy and couldn't overtake, I asked him why, he said because they don't overtake military convoy and they were not fast, that was my time hearing that particular side, ironically, the people that were around supported him saying it's normal, we live in a society where àbûsè by uniform personnel is being normalized, even skit makers use it for skits and people are laughing, the few times I have faced off with uniformed men, they had to back off, provided I didn't break any law, u can't harrass me and get away with it, it has not happened and it's never going to happen.
Uniform personalities do whatever they do always because they know that people empower them.

CalabarPikin:
Bag rice 115k....
75k worthless

When rice was 7k, how many bags did u buy in total all those years?

kalvoken:
All na cruise.

What can one purchase with 70k? Not even a abg of rice. Yet we want to fight corruption.

Seems everything u need to purchase in ur life is a bag of rice.
When rice was sold for #7000 per bag, not many people could afford it, today u all talk about bag of rice like u ever bought bag of rice when it was #7000.

JikSneh:
Why is the government of Benue state treating Yoruba community in Benue state bad?
The Yoruba community supported APC and voted Fr. Alia in the last general election but up till now, nothing has been done for the Yoruba community in Benue state.
This is a wake up call to all omoluabis in the south west, please treat them the same way they are treating us in their state.
Dear Benue people, you guys will hear from us soon, your people are in our land too

Are u sure u are a Yoruba?

Morizo:
You say you vote personality than party and that's fine by me. But by what standards did you compare OBJ and Tinubu in terms of personality if you are a patriot?

One played leading roles in UN even before he became a civilian president and the other forfeited money to US government for drug related case with the CIA recently describing him as an asset of theirs. How patriotic was that to you! Except for monetary, party or clannish reasons no one will support BAT cos they know he's international and locally tainted.

Money can buy you power but can't buy you legitimacy and global respect.

I voted PDP, APC and Labour in the last elections of 2023. I don't give a damn about party but vote people that I feel are statesmen or lesser evils.

A patriot will support anyone that genuinely speaks out against corruption happening to his country no matter what the person has committed. We are talking about the now and future for a better Nigeria and not the past. It's bygone unless someone with balls come to probe and bring them to justice. But the future should be better so a patriot will support anyone who speaks for the prosperity of that future and not looters and extravagant spenders

U are actually not a patriotic, u are an Obident hiding behind the patriot tag.
The post nor the comments are not making comparison, a patriot address issues as they should be addressed, not trying to sneak in comparison when the talk is not even comparison.

commoditiesnig:
Lol.. I don't understand these set of people o. So petty

They think that's how to demand for good governance.

RaySimran:
Ironically, the reform would favor them (Lagos, Rivers, FCT) more as they contribute the most even in this present unreformed format.

If Tinubu succeed on this tax reform policy, most state may go bankrupt as they are too docile to upend FAAC dependence and go all out on their various tax programs to generate income for themselves.

Some governors are excessively useless when its about economic ways to prosperity.

Those states with useIess governors are very comfortable recruiting those governors while demanding good governance from federal gov, a good example of such states are; Benue(tops the list on this one, people from that state are always forming woke but don't have a single leader that's good), Kogi, Nasarawa, Taraba, Niger and several others, they need to pushed to the wall so the people can wake up and demand good leadership from their state.

Kelklein:
Nigerian governors priorities no dey pass Government House, Governor's Lodge, flyover

That's where money can be well laundered hurriedly..

They build u complain, they don't build, u complain.
Why don't you take over the governorship and display ur spectacular Ieadership?

Johncarlo07:
I don't knw wat ur driving at gangan. Pls let me knw.

Frm d beginning, I nva told u Obj is a saint. Nd statistics nd developmental frm 1999 show he performed better Dan odas afta him.

Pls show d statistics let d world see.
U said he brought GSM to benefit himself, yet Dat same telecommunication is feeding millions of pple, employing thousands nd paying revenue in trillions of dollars to d Nigerian government currently.
U talked abt Mtel. Now! Tell me how many government companies nd corporations functions efficiently on deir own even wit billions pumped into dem?
Soo if he decides to transfer ownership to private individuals for proper management nd effectiveness: is Dat a sin?

Obj built 12 power stations during his time, how many did dose under him built?
Obj brought back d middle class. Do we still av it now?
U said despite creating anti corruption agencies, he nd his minions still loot. Even in saner climes, despite strong anti corruption law: pple still loot. It's now left for successive governments to create more laws to make dose agencies more functional. Afta all government is a continuum. Did dey do Dat? No!

U said d common man had no hope under OBJ🤣🤣🤣
How much was d price of commodities under obj? Rice, beans, fish, petrol etc. How much are dey now?
Soo if u say pple had no hope under obj where u can comfortably buy 5 naira bread,rice was 40 naira per Derica, petrol was hovering around 26 naira later 40 naira. Tell me wat adjective u will use to qualify wat d common man Is going thru under APC.

Wat was our debt under Obj. Obj created d ECA headed by Ngozi Okonjo Iweala. To save funds for rainy days. How much was saved?
Afta he left, wat happened to dem?

On foreign policy: Obj was a respected voice in d International Community. In Africa his voice alone reinstated d ousted president of Sao Tome nd principe. Nd some oda conflict he resolved around Africa, Nigeria was well respected.
Can u say d same now?
Up till nw, despite being out of power for years now: Obj is still d most respected Nigerian leader worldwide.


We can argue on nd on frm our perspective. Both statistics dnt lie. Bring out d stats let d world see nd compare.

Nd lyk I said its a travesty to support Tinubu as a leader nd be castigating Obj.
Tinubu is among d lowest of d lowest. Tell me his contributions to d development of d nation: Nigeria.

I only read ur first statement that asks what I'm driving at, if you have no idea what I was driving at, why did u reply my initial statement?
Some u just like arguing for the sake of it, no point, no reason why u are arguing, just arguing.

Atuero:
Though, I don't believe money ritual but there are rich people who neither sell products nor services....

U must sell products or services to be rich even if the products or services are illegal or someone else is paying ur bills, no two ways about it

Johncarlo07:
U shld shush ur mouth wen talking abt age here.
For me to defend obj, dats to tell u am much more older nd matured wen he was president.

Was it obj Dat sold or privatised d Power sector too? Why is d sector nt working today?

Was it only during obj tenure Dat Abacha loots were returned? No! Wat happened to odas Dat were returned under successive governments.

Wat was Nigeria's debt under obj nd hw much wen he left?
How much was in d ECA wen Obj left? Wu depleted it?
It was objs privatisation efforts in d telecommunication sector Dat brought GSM Dat employs thousands of people nd is bringing billions in revenue to d Nigerian government today. Soo why rubbish his efforts nd deny his achievements too.

Twas obj Dat established EFCC nd ICPC nd dey tried notable government officials den. Wat happened now?
Twas Obj Dat built d National stadium Abuja.

U talked abt railway, how functional was d railway system bfor he took ova?
How functional was Nigeria Airways bfor Obj took over.

Lyk I said, u can accuse him of many tins, bt compared to dose Dat came afta him, he is d best.

Don't even understand how a Tinubu supporter can castigate obj. It beggars belief!

OBJ brought GSM for his personal benefits, if u were old enough like u just claimed, do u have any idea about MTEL?
OBJ dèstroyed it just to bring in telecommunication network that will benefit him.
I see u technically avoided the case of ALSCON.
OBJ brought EFCC and ICPC, tell us how those outfits stopped him and his minions from Ióótîñg people's common weaIth.
Only kids defèñd OBJ, it's that simple, if u were oId enough to see Nigerians on the streets protesting the closure of Nigerian Airways, if u were old enough to see how OBJ bastardized the country that the common man basically had no hope, u wóñ't be typing the nonsense u are typing, the achievement of the first president in our well and permanently established democracy was not solidifying democracy and growth but establishing EFCC and ICPC, building stadium, reducing debt.

OBJ just gave advice about INEC that's where our talk started from, how great was INEC during his tenure?
I'm he always conducted free and fair elections right?
Under his reign, a senator that later became a senate president in David Mark told his constituency that if only him and his family vote for him, he will still win election, somehow, he won that election, that's how great OBJ and INEC were.
OBJ said "... election is a do or die affair for me" same OBJ is giving advice about INEC today.
Sit out this discussion, it's above what u can defend.

Morizo:
So patriot should endorse widespread irregularities just because OBJ was amongst those calling it out?

I have no interest in who wins any election as far as the process reflects the will of the people.

Can't you see the voters apathy ongoing cos people have given up on Mahmood? A patriot will be worried.

But you don't care as far as APC is rigging. I bet you were even with PDP when they were rigging and supporting them. Most APC politicians migrated from PDP hence the term "PDAPC"

Fair weather patriot

A patriot won't listen to OBJ when he's talking about good governance whether he's right or not, that's a basic rule for a patriot in Nigeria.
A patriot always have interest in who leads their country, in our case, whoever leads our country is the political winner, so if u don't have interest in who leads ur country, u are clearly not a patriot.
There's no voter aparthy going on anywhere, historically, governorship election don't received attention or same votes like presidential election, that's how it has always been even before Mahmood became INEC chairperson, a patriot should have known this.
Personally, if I have the right to vote in states like Oyo and Nasarawa, I will always vote PDP candidates ahead of APC candidates, in the last election, I voted for PDP, APC as well as SDP, I don't tag a party as bàd Iike u just did while pretending to be a patriot.
U see the difference between a patriot and a pàîñed Ioser now?

The only time u will see me talking about party is when someone brings a discussion about what happened under PDP or APC, and I am not a party supporter, I choose individuals that I prefer their style of governance no matter their party.

Johncarlo07:
Show me Nigeria's developmental indices in 1999 bfor ObJ. Show me Nigeria's status bfor ObJ took over, Nigeria was a pariah state.
Show me Nigeria's debt bfor ObJ took over, nd how it was wen he left.

U can accuse him of many tins. Bt ObJ is by far beta Dan our current crop of leaders. Expecially Buhari nd Tinubu.

All wat u said he destroyed, where national assets Dat were nationalized for effective performances. U can fault d process of privatisation, bt saying he was d one Dat destroyed dem. How?

I dare u to upload developmental indices for d trio nd let's c.

U are asking for indices of development?
I'm sure when OBJ was president, u were still a kid that Iàcks seIf awareness.
Every human being in his right señsès know that OBJ is the probIem Nigeria is facing today, what infrastructural development did OBJ carry out in his 8 year tenure?
Nigerian Airways was nationalized for effective performance by closing it down without paying the workers?
Do u have any self awareness when the workers were protesting?
He nationalized NITEL by crumbling it?
He nationalized ALSCON by withdrawing it from a Nigerian collection of business men who and selling it to Russians who made their bid in their language and offered money way less than what Nigerians paid for it?
How's ALSCON doing now?
How many railways did OBJ construct, rather he crumbled existing ones.
It was under OBJ that Bonny-Bodo bridge was given out as contract, the money disappeared and no work was done.
It was under OBJ that Abacha's Ioot was returned but even SFG dón't know it's whereabouts.
"Food no d, brother water no d and our no good o..." That song was made under OBJ.
"Nigeria jaga jaga" was made Uber OBJ.
These are developmental indices I just uploaded.
OBJ don't have any moral justification to taIk about good governance.

Fearurcreeator:
Na yeye man na , igbos don like am now. Obj think we don forget , then who dare talk

He's a hero in lgb0 land now.

Kukutente23:
You see your life?
That's how you zombies are
You asked me for something, I give it to you and the next thing you start blabbing. I thought you said I can't name them. If I start breaking it down for you now, you'll cry more like a bush baby.
This is how you guys supported Buhari on his way to failure. Today you've dropped him like cow dung and now hugging Tinubu tightly like hot agbado while hailing him on his way to failure too. Sometime I wonder what you clowns gain from this buffoonery.
Tinubu is looking on while a sitting minister is formenting trouble in a state but Adedibu removing Ladoja was bad because it was OBJ that supported him. You see how you guys think?
Tinubu creating LGAs which SC said was illegal and instead of reverting, changed their nomenclature. He then proceeded to sharing LGA revenue with those illegal LCDAs. That was OK but states now under him are being told to hands off LG.
I guess IG is a law unto himself now. He no longer works for Tinubu. When I say you guys brain is filled with sawdust, you'll get angry.
And it's obvious you don't understand a thing about the tax reform bill which seeks to centralise tax collection especially VAT. How does that tally well with resource control? When will Tinubu transmit a bill to NASS reflecting resource control or does he not have that right as president moreso with a rubber stamp NASS?
Last year, a lot of you zombies were dancing when news came out that Tinubu said a part of the proceeds of subsidy removal should not be shared. Same fools forgot that it was same APC that killed excess crude account and insisted on all revenue to federation being shared. Fashola even said a govt like Nigeria's has no business saving money.
You zombies lack sense walahi

U are typing rûbbîsh my friend, I don't expect any reasonable write up from obidents on a normal tho.

professorPABX:
Obasanjo is a frustrated man. He is a coward. From my various submissions on him when I was using my account (babaolofin) to post on nairaland I have given a total description of him as given to me by some Yoruba elders who knows him very well. Most Yoruba elders and elites never had any value for him.

He seeks for relevance among failed people and among lower intelligent people that are celebrated by fools and blind men . He believes he is a SPIRIT and not human being because they call him OWU Spirit. He said he is a General, everybody must take order from him. Tinubu demystified him and humbled him and defeated him seven times. He is a coward. After his several humiliation and defeat by Tinubu he has now chosen the blackmail and falsehood against Tinubu. He will fail woefully.

Only mentally unstable person will invite Obasanjo to give a speech. He was invited to give a speech in memory of Achebe an envious and bittered person full of vendetta against Soyinka and Awolowo. In his last book "There was a country" he denigrate, blackmailed and assaulted Awolowo that it became a political battle between Awolowo movement and the IBO elites led by Professor ABC Nwosu. No wonder, such avenue is where Obasanjo is needed. I regretted buying that book through friend in UK. I later set the book ablaze.

OBASANJO has forgotten Nigeria Jaga Jaga, everything scatter scatter gun shots in the air, gbosa gbosa by Eedris Abdulkareem is a song that summarized what Nigeria became under him. Tinubu inherited a failed Nation which started from Obasanjo.

Exactly, if he was so great, we wouldn't have heard Nigeria jaga jaga, today some people are celebrating him.

Johncarlo07:
Despite dose flaws nd shortcomings, he is still d best among all others afta him. Nigeria was not rosy too wen Obj took over, nd he nva complained.
He worked tins out, assembled d best brain, repositioned Nigeria within d International Community. Most of d developmental indices Nigeria had, was during his tenure.

I can count hundreds of ObJ's achievements. Including : establishing anti corruption agencies, establishment of d middle class, brought telecommunications into Nigeria,paid off humongous International debt etc.

Pls, tell me wat Buhari nd Tinubu has managed to achieve in 10 years nd counting of APC.

Ur head is not correct.

I can count several wrong things obj did, destroyed railways, destroyed ALSCON, destroyed Nigerian Airways, destroyed NITEL, destroyed our refineries, destroyed ajaokuta steel mines, I can on and on.
We were well positioned in international community before OBJ came on board so he didn't reposition us, infrastructural development was at an all time low under OBJ, now we are talking about OBJ, when we want to make political comparisons, tag me and I will make the comparison and u will see.
Only people who lacked self awareness under OBJ will ever praise him.

Morizo:
So we should throw away the baby with the bath water? Yar'Adua was bold enough to say the elections that brought him was not transparent and started a reform which GEJ sustained that lead to a sitting president losing his seat.

But what did we have under PMB? Despite promises and innovations Mahmoud went back to the dark days of letting the fox into the hen yard for monetary purposes and clannish reasons. Hence the 2019 and 2023 elections were flawed with irregularities. The off cycle elections under BAT has been worse, and take us back to OBJ days or even worse.
So is that how we are going to grow and country? Do you like your country to be this backwards in the comity on nations and a mockery to saner climes despite blessed with intellectual capacities in abundance. Am patriot must support electoral reforms and not look at what OBJ said but his message.

U are not patriot, a patriot won't tag every election as bàd because people he doesn't Iike are winning it.
A patriot won't listen to OBJ, OBJ don't have any moral ground to talk about elections or how to make Nigeria better, he laid foundation for every wrong thing happening today so he doesn't have anything to say other than apologizing, this is what a patriot should know.

blacknp:
Of course that kukutente23 Thing was formulate lies to fit his misconstrued narrative.

He's pàthètic, very very pàthètic, they dón't even know what being an opposition party mean, they think it's wàr.

EmekaA125:
Obi boards Aircraft to attend event in Onitsha??
So Obi can't be in PH, Abuja, Enugu and be scheduled for another event in Onitsha for instance??
This argument is lame.
But to satisfy ur ignorance for you to sleep well at night, Obi lives in his Bourdillion mansion where bullion vans full of cash were pictured entering his house in Lagos.

The act of defending Lienus is the act of casting ur bràiñ aside.
Obi lives in Onitsha but whenever Obi is actually in Onitsha, it makes the news.
Obidents and lies.

Kukutente23:
Nothing una sabi

When Tinubu insisted on the right of states to create and control LG, is that not against LG autonomy?
The present IG came out and said Nigeria is not ripe for state police
Does anyone need to remind you about fuel subsidy removal protests in 2012
What about defending Buhari's administration’s refusal to devalue naira
Is Tinubu not a serial Rigger of elections?
Who cried for resource control and true federalism pass Tinubu? He's the one today refusing to allow states to control their resources

States have rights to create LGA and states cañ't control LGA, Tinubu never said that, stop formulating Iies.
IG is now Tinubu?
I thought u said he protested against it, so not saying about Buhari not floating the naira is now a support?
Bring ur evidence that Tinubu rigged election.
Is there a motion for state control of resources in the national assembly that the bill was sent to Tinubu or this is ur imagination?
The only thing Tinubu opposed and did was subsidy removal, the rest u are trying so hard to formulate still can't formulate anything properly.
Is there a motion for state control of resources that the bill has reached Tinubu and he refused to sign?

depure:
Is speaking the truth simple

Can't make a meaning into what u typed.

Kukutente23:
How old are you?
You asked a quotation and I gave you response and you're asking another question
When you know you're this ignorant, why did you venture into things you know nothing about

Clearly shows u just cooked up a list, tell us how he opposed those policies.

EmekaA125:
Peter Obi's son is an actor in the U. S. The daughter chose her career. The wife has a thriving enterprise she's doing for herself. If Tinubu's son Seyi has something doing, he wouldn't be living large on tax payers' money because his father is the president. Peter Obi's residence is in Onitsha Anambra State not Lagos. I hate unteachable people that's why I reacted angrily. Sorry about that.

What is the guarantee that Obi's son is not living on tax payer's money embezzled by his father?
Unteachable people are people claiming that Obi lives in Onitsha whereas he boards aircraft to attend events in Onitsha always.

Bryanobi:
For ya mind
You don write something

What I wrote is for grown adults who has experienced things in this country not for kids who lack self awareness as recently as 2015.

blacknp:
Guy no waste your time with that politically clueless kukutente23 Thing.

He likes typing rubb!sh aIot, I normally ignore him but I have enough time today.

IGBOPROMISE1:
Let's remind you again what your previous assertion was:



Read my previous post again! If you can't see how it addressed your blatant lies and revisionism, then it's either you're too daft to comprehend or you're being deceitful! Tell me how Ndigbo have shown this 'hate' to others that you accuse them of!

U can't erase ur lgb0 history, we all left this history all these years, u lots kept making moves that made us bring them out.

Kukutente23:
LG autonomy
State police
Fuel subsidy removal
Naira devaluation
Election rigging
True federalism

Today he's on opposite side of all these issues
I actually gave you six

U should tell us how he opposed each and everything u listed, tell us how and what he did to oppose them.
That's what I meant.

Sharpsharp00123:
these small children don't know anything

They just started following election update in 2023

In 2023 election, I met a corp member that had no idea there are 18 candidates on the ballot, they are part of the loudest group.

Omoboricash:
Dont mind the old agbaya that conducted the worse electio. In the history of the country.
The do or die election man. Imagine a president of Nigeria calling election do or die affairs. What a shame.

That's exactly where that quote came from, that was 2007 election and he rigged it recklessly that the winner of the election acknowledged that it was rigged.