₦airaland Forum

mrvitalis:
90% of the Infrastructural projects Buhari did were wants...

It's suicidal to borrow money and build projects that can't generate you more money... But nah u guys see the effect... Currency is getting weaker because of debt servicing GDP is dropping... But nah let's keep borrowing to build road, bridges, rail, airport

Then wonder why the economy is tanking

50% of Nigerian live in towns 37% have internet can be explained if only you look at the percentage of kids in our population..

You guys have hatred for Data

Let's build road bridges, n rail so we can brag about them

It's a good thing u said 90% of Buhari's projects were wants, give us a list of 20 of Buhari's projects that were wants please.


I already said borrowing money to build projects that don't progress ur society is bad so why are you repeating it?
Rails and roads are projects that will 100% generate more money and grow our society, if u say otherwise, u simply don't love the society.
Debts incurred from artificially defending the currency is a part of debt servicing.


U still don't get the analogy?
Those kids also have internet access, even rural areas have internet access so that data is flawed that's what I'm telling u, over 50% can't live in urban areas while only 37% have internet access and our national statistics have over 100m internet users, that statistics is flawed like the GDP stats.


U can't tell me I hate data when I work with data to be able to deliver a successful job, I have high hàtrèd for fIawed data and every sh!.tty figure is not data.


Now, are u registered with NSE?
How did u become an engineer?

mrvitalis:
You guys ideas of government and governance is weird

All over the world, or economic journals messure economy via GDP, GDP per capita you guys messure by IGR

All over the world, economic journals.. Governance is measured via improvement in MDGs goals ... You guys measure via what road? Lmaooo

It's funny comparing Akwa ibom ( the state I made my first millions) to Anambra Lmaooo... I would never put down Akwa ibom out side never

First and foremost, the comparison between Akwa Ibom and Anambra was not started by me, someone started it and stated it emphatically, but u prefer tagging me with it.
Secondly, IGR contributes to GDP and I have said that repeatedly in the last 1 hour, a country that don't generate money in abundance from natural resources depends on IGR and other sources to grow their GDP, this is something u must have seen from all over the world.
Governance all over the world is measured by how it addresses the issues facing that society, in our society, roads are part of it, so if you think we can use same yardstick to measure a successful governance in society A to society B, then u need to more enlightenment.

A success story in a places like US is keeping the peace in Middle East, it's part of their yardstick in good governance, not same for us.
Learn dynamics.

paramakina202:
You have no say in who becomes president of Nigeria so no need for argument.

I and millions of other Nigerians have a say and we said Obi will not president in 2023 and he's not and we are saying again that he will NEVER be and he won't.

EmekaA125:
Not true.
Take for instance; Anambra and Akwa Ibom.

While Akwa Ibom State generates bigger IGR than Anambra, the latter has better housing, work force, and high human capital development index more than the former.

The last time I checked, Anambra does not have the govt providing housing for the people rather it's the people outside Anambra that mostly comes back to build houses, something Akwa Ibom does not have.
In terms of what govt provides, Akwa Ibom has better road networks than Anambra, I'm sure they have cleaner environments, something that govt provides, I'm sure they have better infrastructures that govt provides compared to Anambra, I'm also sure that Akwa Ibom can undertake multi projects more easily than Anambra because they generate funds to back it even if it comes to taking loans.
The better workforce in Anambra is the quest to succeed and not be left behind in Anambra not something provided by the govt.

You create a thread with "I regret my nationality" somehow u think u are an element of change.
U are not serious o.
U can't transform something u don't love with passion, for u to transform an organization, a project or a society u must love that society with passion, the key problem with our country today is that we don't love our society enough, neither the politicians nor the masses love the country.
The Nasarawa governor said sometime ago that after his tenure he will go and live in America, give him 10 years to rule Nasarawa and they wiII continue to sûffèr, only people who love their society will see that our society need good roads, those are the people that will realize that our society needs good schools those are the people that will stand against people who wants to jeopardize the society, u can't give what u don't have, this is what u should preach.

These are part of what the likes of Confucius, Mencius and philosophers taught that transformed China, these are stuffs that the likes of Mao did to aid their country's growth.

paramakina202:
Anambra people should vote and make sure Peter Obi's candidate wins Anambra governorship election next year that will be a big boost to Peter Obi's 2027 presidential election ambitions.

The entire SE can line up LP as their governor but Obi wiII NEVER be president of Nigeria.

EmekaA125:
IGR is not the true test of economic indices and progress.

It is part of the true test just like GDP is.

mrvitalis:
You obviously don't understand the difference between borrowing to build NEEDs
And borrowing to build WANTS

I dome already zero my mind GDP is already below 200 billion 100 billion GDP here we come with mindset like this the slop is not stopping anytime soon

Is there any project that Buhari built that's not a needed project?
U don't criticize because u don't like the person in power, that's the problem we face in this country, critîcizè because it affects ur society even when u like the person in power.

GDP is below 200m but Lagos GDP is almost 200m, now does it make sense to u?

I saw a data last year where they said, Nigeria has over 50% of it's population living in urban areas but same Nigeria has 37% internet access, does that data make sense?
Not every sh!.tty data u see is vaIid.
It's that simple.


I asked u earlier on, how did you become an engineer?
U are registered with NSE?

yarimo:
The men of God should take it easy, peter OBI admit he spoke after taking tramadol

He got the advice to say that from a màd man.

Richtaiwo:
Peter Obi the pandora criminal is nothing short of a conman hiding under religion to defraud his unintelligent sheeples.

Watch his sheeples storm social media throwing tantrums in all directions. 99.9 percent of his crackhead followers will take churches to the cleaners tonight for the audacity to disparage an abiama sent saviour.

They are already doing it on twitter and Facebook.

Religion take precedent in our society today because poIiticians in different facets faiIed woèfuIIy in delivering their duties and this includes Peter Obi who was a coIIosaI faiIure as governor for 8 soIid years without creating productivity in Anambra, his Iàck of productivity creation in Anambra is the reason why people are leaving Anambra in huge numbers in search of greener pastures, but as usual, he claims to have solution to everything because he is seeking for a new office, I like the fact that he's àttàcking the church, this same churches were busy sounding him as messiah sent from God, they have seen how confused thèîr messiah is now.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

mrvitalis:
Lmaooo I never said infrastructure is not good or not important but there is time for everything

Building a house or buying a car is a good thing right? Imagine borrowing money to do it when you earn 200k monthly

All we are saying is " do not borrow to build feel good projects "

Aregbe did it in osun it failed
El rufai did it in Kaduna it has failed
Buhari did it for 8 years it failed

But somehow u want to keep doing same thing and expect different results? Lmaooo

Cocoa house syndrome is real

U can earn 200k monthly and comfortably borrow to build and buy a car simultaneously if u have a good financial plan, people earning 150k are doing it and doing it well, so it's a flawed analysis, by the way, ur analysis does not align with infrastructural development.

Egypt is borrowing heavily to build projects and u can't develop ur society without borrowing unless u have a huge mineral deposit and few population like Qatar, Saudi and the likes.

If u can't borrow to build infrastructures, then ur leadership is p00r, what u should advice and seek is that borrowing and building should be done to near perfection, if a govt borrow funds, spend it on infrastructural development without embezzlement and the right infrastructures, it's 100% right and progressive, to assume that u can't borrow to build infrastructures because Lienus said so is wrong.

Somebody should tell these folks that they don't have investments anywhere, investments boost the economy of a society.
Places like Benue, Kogi and Nasarawa are Iittered with lgb0s, why are their so called investments not developing those states or their investments only develop states that the govt is actively developing?
Any society that brings up policies to make them progress is going head on with lgb0s.

toneroforever:
If the wicked policies of the Federal government was meted out to the Yorubas, they will be like Somalia

Tell us what those policies are so we can hear it.
We are tired of hearing about imaginary poIicies already.

Idiko1:
There is no single presence of Federal Government of Nigeria in Igboland. Nigerian government has used its economic policies as weapons of war against Ndigbo.

Tell us the federal presence you are expecting in lgb0 land that's not there.
Also tell us the economic poIicies that are used as weapons against Ndigbo.
Please, tell us.

mrvitalis:
Infrastructure being a necessity is where APC gets it wrong, that's why our economy keep tanking under them

The main essence of government is to make your people more comfortable

Light rail rides cost 2 dollars mostly to break even, why build something that you don't have population for

Instead of focusing on making your people richer you re building projects to brag about

If Lagos GDP per capita is 10k dollars or 15k dollars then light rail would become needed then you can build it... You are building light rail for people with income of less than 200 dollars a month... Then spend billions to keep it running

This is the problem the àvèragè obident has, infrastructures includes roads, hospitals, schools, good sanitation network, water projects, street lightening etc etc.
Somehow an Obident is saying these are not important because Obi said so.
How can people be comfortable without good roads?
Constructing roads is expensive, why didn't you put it there u are putting light rail?
Many states are using okada because they don't have a proper road network to link places that will ease the movement of BRT buses that will be way cheaper than okada, is the use of okada comfortable?
Using a train to travel from Abuja to Kaduna is way more comfortable than using a public bus in same route, how's light rail not important?
A good sanitation network makes people comfortable, some people are complaining about bad sanitation in Lagos and someone is saying infrastructures are not important.
Infrastructures is what delivers what to ur showers and kitchen sink, they are not part of what makes people comfortable?
Infrastructures are what gives u reliable health facilities, infrastructures makes ambulances run in the streets when u pull a call through to them.
Building good sporting facilities and arena is part of infrastructures, are u telling me that such doesn't make people happy?
No musician can tour SE states, why?
Because of Iàck of arena, are they not part of infrastructures?

Use ur bràiñ when saying things, analyze events in isolation from politics and what politician said.

IGBOPROMISE1:
IGR in of itself is not a bad thing and is a good indicator of how a economy is performing! But i see two issues here: *First is that the overall IGR is made up of different components, one being tax on businesses and coy profits. When some argue that this type of tax can either benefit or hinder a coys capacity to continue in business and grow, they normally do so against the backdrop of the difficult business environment coys have to contend with in Nigeria today, hence they argue in favour of limited taxation on businesses and coy profits; *another issue is that some take exception to smug, derogatory and insulting comments from those mocking others states/regions performance when political and economic factors that have disproportionately favoured certain states/regions over the decades are ignored. Does anyone think that had say Rivers, Imo, Bayelsa or Akwa-Ibom been independent states in their own right, that they wouldn’t have performed much better than is presently the case….and even bettered Lagos that for decades has benefitted from federal gov’t decisions and policies, and the efforts of all Nigerians!?

Can u give us a list of those decisions and policies that the federal government carried out to benefit Lagos and deprive the states u mentioned?

IGR is no longer good because it's not favoring some people.
An entity can execute more financial projects if it has the capacity to generate money to back up for it.
Lagos can execute those projects while Anambra can't, the difference is IGR not federal allocation.
U can get Ioan if u can generate higher IGR, it also has a way of influencing ur GDP, all these factors add to ur financial standing as a country.
This is not a 2by2 shop analysis.

mrvitalis:
Even as an engineer I read economics for fun
Did MBA later, thinking of doing MSC and PhD later

I have never seen anywhere were revenue generated is used to rate or analyze an economy

The fact that Tax heavens exist makes this funny 🤣🤣
Or mineral based economy like Saudi, UAE, brunia Monaco and the rest that pride themselves as tax free regions or states

Banta or joke apart The Yoruba Nation needs to wake up and smell the coffee, they are slowly losing their love for education and it is showing

U are an Engineer?
When did you register with NSE?

KwuoteYourFada:
Stealing

Bags of rice

Stealing Christmas packages

Stealing from fallen 7 up truck?

Or Ebi npa wa ooo


Which Equal measure are you talking about?

Equal measures like Ióótiñg an onion truck.

Greenback:
Equal measures as in the only achievement of your lives, right?

Empty repIy

KillahPriest:
I'm talking about someone actively inciting a potential mass genocide the likes of which we haven't seen since the civil war and Rwanda yet you still found a way to bring Obi into the topic. Is something wrong with you between your ears ? Let's even humor you a bit, Obi has his own shenanigans, my candidate Kwankwanso has his own but you chose the one with the biggest fûcking skeleton in the closet with a baggage you wouldn't take from that nyamirí. Doesn't that expose your own hypocrisy or at worst your poor decision making process ? Please sit some discussions out when normal people are talking sir and have a very blessed day.

Ps. Be careful of that verminous snake Reno okoro, he can sell your idol out for $5000 cash if an offer comes along, don't take his praise singing and âss licking seriously because he won't hesitate to stab you in the back fast. Shalom

How's he inciting geñócide?
Do u know what geñócide is?
Bringing history to people's knowIedge is inciting geñócide?
I guess it's beyond ur thinkîñg capacity.

OP I don't really agree with u, but I am always skeptical about these foreigners, they always have an interest they are chasing and it's not the interest of the victims.

Obi supports u and u are bound to Iose.

KillahPriest:
Reno okoro the snake rat who blows breeze on your leg while biting you. The ultimate aim of that middle aged slithering vermin is to incite mass genocide against the Igbo race. How you guys dont see through his shenanigans baffles me

But u couldn't see through Obis shenanigans?

Ibadanpikin:
I'm waiting for him.

Go to his Twitter or Facebook page and type this.

Even if he contests for governor of Anambra today, he wiII Iose.
Afrîca is not f00Iish

Pathfinder2090:
Even the blind knew that Obi and LP won Rivers State election, but Wike rigged the election because he was promised a ministerial position.

Where were those bIinds to testify in court when Obi needed them?

D lgb0s started what they cañ't finish and now they making posts upon posts to explain.
If u all had held ur peace after the election without tribaIizing the outcome, we wouldn't have gotten here.
U all did this after Buhari won election, every Northerner was póór and hûñgry, every musIim was bàd, every Hausa-Fulani was an iIIitràtè, they kept quiet, now the Yorubàs are giving u equaI measures.
Posts started springing up.

Kepukepu:
During election, they will use tribalism to deceive you. You can all see that suffering knows no tribe.
As you make your bed, you will lie ontop.

I'm an Igbo person and everyone knows me that I'm not tribal bigot. While we have Yorubas and hausas that are rational, but an average person from these tribe prefers to suffer instead of having an Igbo person who can liberate them.

They will soon come here on this thread sell different imaginary narrative as to why Peter Obi was not the right person and why they want to keep suffering instead of having an Igbo president.

"The hate for Igbo people is consuming this country" many you don't realize it. Because you don't want that Igbo man called Obi to be president, you ended up shooting yourself on the foot by election group of notorious criminals to govern you.

Saying Obi a coIIosaI faiIure for a govèrñór will liberate Nigèria clearly shows u are 100% a tribaI bîgot.
Only tribàI and reIigious b!g0ts sell the Iie that Obi can save Nigèria, someone who cañ't save Anambra.