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jaephoenix:
Just that, sin and death.
Sin is a concept created by religion.
Death is cessation of activities of major body organs, as evidenced by lack of respiratory, cardiac or skeletal actions, and pupillary dilation

jaephoenix:
You mean if I get jesus, I won't sin and I won't die?

Kobojunkie:
1. Which dictionary gave you this same definition for faith that is written right there in scripture?

2. First, contrary to what many may like to believe, Hebrews 11 vs 1 does not contain a definition of the word faith . Rather what the writer does in the context is attempts a figurative comparison of faith with the evidence/substance, the promises of God, that come as a result of ir. Faith itself is not defined in the context of that passage. For this reason, the word faith, in the context, is used in reference to efforts made by such a person as Abraham while pointing out the evidence/benefits that resulted from such effort.

God Himself explained what the word faith means in Genesis 26 vs 5 when He pointed out that the reason why He made a promise to Abraham had to do with the fact that Abraham lived his life in submission and obedience of His, God's, teachings and commandments - Faith. God gave that as the one and the only reason why He made Abraham His friend. This offer we observe Jesus Christ makes with all those of His followers who will do as He says - John 15 vs 9 -14 — those who will submit to and obey His teachings and commandments in the Kingdom of God. So, there you have it. Faith refers to living one's life in continuous submission and obedience to God's commandments and teachings, and in our case, in Jesus Christ.

3. I am afraid this is equally wrong! God's promise to Abraham is fulfilled both in
■ His Old Law of Moses which is the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan , YHWH
■ and His New Covenant and Law which is the National Constitution of God's Special Nation of Priests aka the Kingdom of God which God promised to make of the people of Israel

Both Nations/Kingdoms serve as the culmination of the Promise God made to Abraham.

4. And no, mankind is not delivered from Hell by any of those two Laws. No such promise as you claim was made by God to mankind.

Kobojunkie:
1. Accomplishing the promise is one thing, while those to whom it was given is another. Your statement there clearly depicts the fact that the promise was given only to those who are descendants of Abraham — blood relatives. Now the same God, of course, is revealed to have them extended the same promise down the line of Isaac and then to Jacob — not even Esau, Jacob's twin brother had the promise extended towards his line.

2. As explained in the first part, the agreement was given by blood to those who God chose- Exodus 3 vs 1 - 8 and Exodus 6 vs 1 - 6. Obtaining the benefits of the agreement however is by faith, and according to God, Faith refers to living of one's life in submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of God, much as Abraham was recorded to have done in order to earn a place as a friend of God - Genesis 26 vs 1- 6

Kobojunkie:
I didn't ask you any real questions so what is it you claim.to have answered with exegesis which your so-called Exegesis which are funny words for lies?

2. Use your head! Adam, not Abraham, is the father of all mankind. If you want to argue that the promise God made applied as far as Abraham and his sons, then what you are still saying is that the promise is only meant for a select, and not all of mankind - in that case only those who have the blood of Abraham meaning all those who don't are still not a part of the plan. But in this case, We know from what is in fact written that God's promise was not to all of the sons of Abraham but to those descendants from the blood line of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob --- only those descended from all 3 blood lines--- with Jacob as the first born of them all. That is what God Himself proclaimed. So, unless you are about to write your own story into God's mouth like the Mohammedians before you, I suggest you abandon all of those stupid lies - Exegesis - you have been fed by your pastors and mogs, and begin learning anew from God Himself.

Kobojunkie:
So Salvation from Sin and also Salvation from Death? OK. So which of those Salvations do you have as of this moment and how did you go about obtaining it from Jesus Christ?

Kobojunkie:
Salvation from?

jaephoenix:
What is the importance of jesus to the world?

Kobojunkie:
I already answered your question. Jesus Christ made it clear that the Kingdom of God is only for those who are of the Blood of Jacob - the Israelites who, from the beginning, God promised to make His special Kingdom of Priests of - Exodus 19 vs 6. God made that promise of no other people on earth as He announced from the start that Israel was His only inheritance in the land of men.

If what you are asking me to do is twist the Word of God , and Jesus Christ so as to insert myself into their plan, then I ask you this.... what is there to gain from such foolishness?

Kobojunkie:
1. None of the verses you quoted do any such of what you claim.


2. The woman Jesus Christ called them dog is the woman who was a canaanite woman, a non-Israelite. The samarian woman was not a Jew but an Israelite - a descendant of Ephraim and Manasseh, both of them Israelites. Jews are Israelites descended from the line of Judah, Levi or/and Benjamin.


You have not answered the question I asked you in the last paragraph
3. If Jesus Christ Himself said it is not for the whole world, how can it be for the whole World? Who made it for the whole when He said clearly that His Father made it only for the Lost sheep of Israel?

Kobojunkie:
The ver same Jesus Christ who told you all of the above also informed you in clear speak that the world consists of those who are of the Lost sheep of Israeal whom His Father only sent Him to and the dogs - Non-Israelites - warning that you do not give that which is Holy-- God's agreement and Law in the Kingdom of God aka the Gospel- to the dogs.

You need knowledge of the Gospel in its entirety not in selective bits and pieces to have understanding of its Truth.

Kobojunkie:
1. The world which consists only of God's Israel - Exodus 19 vs 6 - the world He then sent His followers out to preach to.

Kobojunkie:
The World — all of mankind— cannot have Jesus Christ because Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear about 2000 years ago that the Father sent Him only to the Lost sheep of Israel - Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34 & Ezekiel 36 vs 21 - 28 & Matthew 15 vs 22 - 26. He warned His followers not to give that which belongs to the Master's children to those on the dogs(non-Israelites) - Matthew 7 vs 6. It is evil to offer Jesus Christ to those who He is not meant for.