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Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 9:28pm On Aug 18, 2023
donjazzet:
Omoo! cry. Propaganda pass propaganda.

Do people actually believe this shit you just typed? grin grin
Like really?? grin
Do you mean to say that the official representatives of the US State Department or the presidents of some Western countries there are stupid pro-Putin propagandists?

Do you really think that Russia is a country of bears and vodka and all the people here walk in bast shoes and in general only Putin is literate in Russia?

imagine, there are a lot of educated people in Russia and Russia is a very computerized country, there is even a mobile or satellite Internet under a tree in the terrible Siberian taiga.

And we can read/listen to primary sources in English.
The Anglo-Saxons and their hangers-on are very arrogant. And stupid, of course.

At first, they do not hesitate at all to tell how they will share the skin of an unkillable bear, and then they start yelling "oh, we didn't mean anything like that."

UPD.

well, the Russians and the Chinese are terribly stupid and do not understand what sweet and good Western exporters of "democracy" are.

And what will you do? What can you do at all, other than spit poison on the forum?

You just have to go and cry in a corner.

Together with Henry Kissinger, who stated some time ago that the worst thing for the United States - China's alliance with Russia - has already happened

Although his generation of diplomats (in Soviet times) tried to do everything so that this would never happen.

But there are no smart people like Kissinger left in the USA, England or the rest of Europe.

And thank God.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia Got Richer By $600 Billion While U.S Lost $6 Trillion Last Year (Photo) by Jane74(f): 7:55pm On Aug 18, 2023
preciousmetals:
foolish propoaganda, a country with less than $2 trillion gdp is making $600 billion in one year, Rubbish
console yourself with the fact that this is nonsense smiley

it's better to be so comforted than to get a stroke because of anger at the Russians.
The sanctions have benefited the Russians! This is terrible! you can burst with anger and frustration.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia Got Richer By $600 Billion While U.S Lost $6 Trillion Last Year (Photo) by Jane74(f): 7:47pm On Aug 18, 2023
FEGNO:
This may be the most ignorant post of the year. Almost all the millionaires in Russia first of all are tied to Putin and corruption very much like Nigeria. The US millionaire are commodities, tech, finance or oil millionaires in free trading and nothing to do with Government. And secondly US citizens are by far richer and live better than Russians
For more than twenty years, the West has not found Putin's billions.
If there is the same corruption in Nigeria as Putin has in Russia, then why is Nigeria not as rich a country as Russia?

And the message in the post says only that the shares of companies owned by Russian citizens have become more expensive / Russians have opened new businesses.

Therefore, the number of millionaires in Russia has increased

In Germany, for example, about 50,000 businesses have gone bankrupt, so the number of millionaires has naturally decreased.


> US citizens are by far richer and live better than Russians

O'Really?

How many millions of Russian citizens receive free food stamps?

Zero. how many Americans are forced to apply for free food stamps? find this figure yourself


And be kind enough to show me at least one Russian city or village with as many homeless people and drug addicts on the street as in some American cities.

How much does a grocery basket cost in the US for an average middle-class family and how many percent of the average family's total budget are food expenses?

How many US citizens own their own housing?
what is the cost of the average health insurance and what services can the average American get for it?

...don't talk about what you don't know.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia Got Richer By $600 Billion While U.S Lost $6 Trillion Last Year (Photo) by Jane74(f): 7:28pm On Aug 18, 2023
Johncarlo07:
D USA economy is a little bigger.
I only quoted ur response to d news abt Russia economy getting bigger,nd u responded wit a comparison of deir poor currency against d dollar.

And just like I said earlier, China currency is vry poor too,bt China economy is one of d biggest in d world! Infact it has been projected dat d Chinese economy will surpass dat of d United States by 2030.

Soo avin a poorly performing currency doesn't stop a country economy from performing well nd grow.
No. China economy (GDP, PPP) = 30,327,320.30 mln $; USA = 25,462,700.00 mln $

Сheck yourself here: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.PP.CD
Since the end of 2021 China ahead of USA.

And what about Russia and its currency..
fist of all, now dollar costs 95,20 Roubles

the exchange rate of the ruble to the dollar does not mean anything to the population of the country.
Now in Russia they joke: "90% of the population in Russia do not know what a dollar is."

The Central Bank of Russia weakens the ruble exchange rate from time to time so that exporters earn more and then pay more money to the state budget.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f):
Kingsnairaland:
Let me just point out the illusion of Russian and Chinese aggression around the world. You hear this repeated many, many times that, you know, any day, you know, Russia's going to take over the entire world.
I want to add a couple of comments.

1. The Americans declared China the enemy of the USA No. 1. Not Russia.
2. But the Americans cannot attack China as long as there is Russia. So they started with an attempt to destroy Russia.
3. China knows that it will be next after the Russians. And militarily, it is weaker than the United States. Therefore, the alliance between China and Russia is now impossible to break. It was not possible to isolate Russia economically, so Russia can wage a proxy war in Ukraine for much longer than its opponents.

4. In Israel, they tell such a story:

Children at a Jewish school were given a meeting with an old woman who survived the Nazi Holocaust.

And after her story , the teacher asked the children: what is the main lesson we should learn from the Disaster? Someone gets up, gives out the usual set: attitude to one's neighbor, humanity, one's own country, the ability to defend oneself independently.
But then the old lady intervened: "Everything is simpler. Everything is much simpler. It's just that if someone ever says they want to kill you, believe them. Do not look for explanations that he really means something completely different, do not tell each other that this is just some kind of politics and other games. Just believe them. And then: you can — fight, you can't — run. But the main thing is to believe them. Immediately..."

So let's see what the Americans and their puppets say about Russia?

Quite openly, they say that Russia should be divided into small independent pieces, that its population should be reduced to 30 million, or even more: there are very few Russians needed to service oil/gas fields where it is very cold.

They are officially gathering conferences on the topic "how to disintegrate Russia after winning it."

Russians know what the disintegration of the country is. After the collapse of the USSR, hundreds of thousands of people died of hunger, drugs, and died in ethnic conflicts along the borders of the country.

So the hopes that the Russians will rebel against Putin because the West is so good and democratic are groundless. All residents of Russia believed the West that the West wants to kill most of them either directly or starve them to death and cold.

In addition, the West regularly (once every 100-200 years) unites and attacks Russia.

And it loses every time.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 12:39am On Aug 17, 2023
viciati:
And of course the emperor now is Putin..who has made himself life president.Who came to power through the oligarchs.My brother let's not deceive ourselves.All empires come to an end,the Romans had their turn,the british had their turn too.The Americans also have their quasi empire with NATO now.If NATO falls,it would not be the end of the world.The Rus and their cronies will have theirs too.Would the world be better for it?No.They will fall too.As long as the earth rotates around the sun,so will empires rise and fall.Peace.
Get used to the idea that Russians cannot be defeated by staying alive

Russia as an empire has existed for a thousand years and will exist three times more.

Just because the governments of enemy countries are made up of absolute oligophrenics, it's amazing how they even manage to carry a fork in their mouth, and not in their ear

So - as long as there are clinical morons around, Russia will exist for the same amount - that is, forever



P.S. and by the way. Russian citizens are absolutely not interested in the question "who will win the war".


The option "Russia has lost" does not just not fit into people's minds.

there is an option - Russia has won, and we will not learn anything about alternative options.
We won't have time to realize it.

so if I were in the place of dogs barking at Russia with foam at the mouth, I would now sit down at the calendar and count

how many days does a screaming dog have left to live if she is right in her prophecies about the "death of Russia"?


I'm not joking at all.

Putin once said: we don't need a planet where there is no Russia.

And this short phrase figuratively expresses the essence of the Russian nuclear doctrine.

The Russians won't have time to realize that they lost, and the Americans and their henchmen won't have time to realize that they won - because the planet will be torn to pieces.

in general.. yapping little dogs - keep in mind.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 11:09pm On Aug 16, 2023
viciati:
And of course the emperor now is Putin..who has made himself life president.Who came to power through the oligarchs.My brother let's not deceive ourselves.All empires come to an end,the Romans had their turn,the british had their turn too.The Americans also have their quasi empire with NATO now.If NATO falls,it would not be the end of the world.The Rus and their cronies will have theirs too.Would the world be better for it?No.They will fall too.As long as the earth rotates around the sun,so will empires rise and fall.Peace.
Well, that is, in essence, you can't answer the question
So we'll write it down in a secret diary

P.S. and you have beautiful fits of rabies with foam from your mouth.
It's very nice to watch you squirm.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 7:50pm On Aug 16, 2023
seunny4lif:
All of Europe is sinking into recession and economic decline

The latest country that joined the list of countries in recession today is the Netherlands.
Now officially European countries in recession are:
Estonia
Hungary
Netherlands
Germany

Provoking a war against Russia and imposing sanctions on the orders of the USA are destroying the European economy.

For one empire to rise another must fall.

That is what is happening with China's growth. The world economy has shown that it cannot afford 3 big empires. Therefore, with the growth of China, one of the USA or the EU must go.

The US knows this very well and has taken action. They bribed all European politicians and made them their vassals.

Next they provoked a war against Russia and forced European vassals to impose sanctions on Russia, which fed European industry with cheap materials and resources.
Next the US blew up the pipeline without batting an eye and officially pushed Germany into de-industrialization.
And to make the situation even worse, the USA started selling gas to Europe, more than 4 times the price that the USA sells on the domestic market.

The Europeans must clean up the American vassals, sit down with Russia to end the war and lift the sanctions they imposed on themselves, otherwise the path to "third world countries" is guaranteed
God bless America!

America has done everything to turn Russia into the world's strongest predator
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 7:31pm On Aug 16, 2023
viciati:
I have learnt a lot here...We keep haranguing and harassing the west here probably because they were once colonial powers.We have been exploited and robbed by the so called 'evil west',which is true.The question we should ask our selves is,would Russia have been a better colonial power if they had the opportunity?No.For God's sake,the Russian Empire was the last state to abolish serfdom in the late 19th century to early 20th century.Would a state that subjugated its own people been any better?No.Russia were not colonialists because they simply were not strong enough to compete.Damn,these guys were thoroughly beaten by a newly industrialised Japan in the 1904-1905 war.So before you become a putin ass licker,get your history classes right.Africa needs to look inwards to better herself.Jumping from the west into the embrace of Russia to me is jumping from frying pan to fire.Peace!
And keep in mind the following.
Modern Russia is not the USSR of the 20th century,
For the sake of Karl Marx's theory, for the sake of the world revolution and other communist party nonsense, Russia will not sacrifice even a hair from the tail of a garbage cat.


in the 21st century, the occupation by the Russians must be earned.

it is necessary to make a lot of efforts so that the Russian Empire agrees to occupy you today

For example, Donbass has been proving to the Russian Empire for 8 years that it is worthy of receiving the status of "imperial Russian region".

people in the Donbas suffered torment for 8 years and independently repelled the attacks of the Nazis in Kiev for the right to become citizens of the Russian Empire.

Being a subject of the Russian emperor today is a very high status. The highest status on planet Earth.
Foreign AffairsRe: Niger: Why Mali, Guinea And Bokina Faso Join Niger Republic by Jane74(f): 6:57pm On Aug 16, 2023
OmoGomesIlorin:
Wherever there is population, there is money, and I for do not think Putin will want sabotage its own previous efforts to befriend Nigeria. Yes both countries have interest in Niger but besides having the opportunity to punish Europe there is no significant benefit Russia would get. Russia does not need Niger's Uranium in any significant amount.

In geopolitics anything can happen, but we will see what will unfold in the coming days. Should ECOWAS choose military intervention, Russia has little it can do, except it will use proxy method to get involved.

Of cause I have recent information about Russian preparing to Puchists for military confrontation with ECOWAS using proxy
You didn't understand what I wrote.

Either you could not read the text because you are illiterate, or you read it, but not with your eyes, but with your booty.

Nigeria is a completely insignificant country for Russia. Especially when it comes to Russia's strategic interests.

P.S. if I try to explain the realities to you further, then I will be banned automatically on the forum for intolerant white supremacy.

for example, you are sure that for the sake of money, anyone is ready for anything, even Putin will kiss Nigeria in all places - because Nigeria offers money..

So what am I supposed to do?

How can I convey to you that your thoughts are not for Russians?
So that I won't be banned because of a demonstration of white supremacy?
You didn't understand what I wrote.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f):
viciati:
I have learnt a lot here...We keep haranguing and harassing the west here probably because they were once colonial powers.We have been exploited and robbed by the so called 'evil west',which is true.The question we should ask our selves is,would Russia have been a better colonial power if they had the opportunity?No.For God's sake,the Russian Empire was the last state to abolish serfdom in the late 19th century to early 20th century.Would a state that subjugated its own people been any better?No.Russia were not colonialists because they simply were not strong enough to compete.Damn,these guys were thoroughly beaten by a newly industrialised Japan in the 1904-1905 war.So before you become a putin ass licker,get your history classes right.Africa needs to look inwards to better herself.Jumping from the west into the embrace of Russia to me is jumping from frying pan to fire.Peace!
And more.
Stupid Biden blurted out some time ago, "We will force Russia to return to the 19th century."

He meant, of course, that America would ruin Russia, return it to poverty, to the Stone Age, as America did with Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Haiti, and so on..


But all the Russians immediately started laughing and saying: Yes! we want to go back to the 19th century! we will be grateful to Biden if he takes us back to the 19th century.

Because for a certain period of the 19th century there is a maximum of the territory of Russia.

There was a time when Russia almost completely occupied the European continent, owned the entire Caucasus, almost all of Central Asia, owned Alaska, and even in California there was a Russian fort on the coast.


So I have a question for you.

why do you think the Russian Empire has swollen to such a size?

Why even today, at a relative minimum, is Russia a huge country covering half of the continent?


And the "colonial empire" of Britain - cat's tears?

Why in the 90s, because of the collapse of the USSR, Russia fought Chechnya twice and very cruelly, and today Chechens are elite units of the Russian army at the front against Ukraine?

Why Kadyrov, who fought with his father against federal Russians in his youth, is today the head of the Chechnya region and has opened a university in his republic for the professional training of volunteers (the University of special forces in Gudermes)?


Why is Chechnya fighting for Russians today under the slogans "Allahu Akbar" + "Russia is power"?

Chechnya is a Muslim region, very often the sermons of Chechen mullahs are broadcast in the media.

So judging by their sermons.. how did it happen that the Chechen people, who fought with the Russians in the early 2000s, are now leading a jihad against Satan together with Christians? and is he shedding blood, is he ready to shed the last drop of his people's blood for Moscow? for Russia? for the Russians?

The answer is very simple.

Russia is a Roman-type empire.

chechens will fight for Moscow and for the Russians to the last drop of theur blood, because only Moscow and only the Russians have given them the opportunity to live a full life according to all modern standards.

only the classical empire - Roma-type empire can do this, and there is only one such empire left in the world today- Russia

And only in Russia is a Chechen/Muslim exactly the same citizen as a blond ethnically Russian Christian

PS. Here in Russia they say so:

- I am a Russian Chechen,
- I am a Russian Georgian,
I am a Russian Greek
I am a Russian Russian
...
and so on
.
there are many ethnic groups in our country- but all are united by the self-consciousness of the nation "we are Russians"

the Russians have the same name of the ethnos and the nation.

So let's not compare Russians and rottenness from the West.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 4:37pm On Aug 16, 2023
viciati:
I have learnt a lot here...We keep haranguing and harassing the west here probably because they were once colonial powers.We have been exploited and robbed by the so called 'evil west',which is true.The question we should ask our selves is,would Russia have been a better colonial power if they had the opportunity?No.For God's sake,the Russian Empire was the last state to abolish serfdom in the late 19th century to early 20th century.Would a state that subjugated its own people been any better?No.Russia were not colonialists because they simply were not strong enough to compete.Damn,these guys were thoroughly beaten by a newly industrialised Japan in the 1904-1905 war.So before you become a putin ass licker,get your history classes right.Africa needs to look inwards to better herself.Jumping from the west into the embrace of Russia to me is jumping from frying pan to fire.Peace!
In a word.
In the Russian Empire, all people living on its territory are citizens of the empire, subjects of the emperor.
And if a resident of the province is beaten with a whip, then a resident of the metropolis is beaten with a whip for the same thing too.

let's tell me now how the inhabitants of the colonies of Western countries had exactly the same rights as the inhabitants of the metropolis.
I'd love to hear it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 4:20pm On Aug 16, 2023
viciati:
I have learnt a lot here...We keep haranguing and harassing the west here probably because they were once colonial powers.We have been exploited and robbed by the so called 'evil west',which is true.The question we should ask our selves is,would Russia have been a better colonial power if they had the opportunity?No.For God's sake,the Russian Empire was the last state to abolish serfdom in the late 19th century to early 20th century.Would a state that subjugated its own people been any better?No.Russia were not colonialists because they simply were not strong enough to compete.Damn,these guys were thoroughly beaten by a newly industrialised Japan in the 1904-1905 war.So before you become a putin ass licker,get your history classes right.Africa needs to look inwards to better herself.Jumping from the west into the embrace of Russia to me is jumping from frying pan to fire.Peace!
you have learned a lot here, but you need to study more, and preferably at a good school/university

Asking "Would Russia be better if it was a colonial empire" is like asking "Would Grandma be better if she was a grandfather".


Do you even know where the term "colonial empire" came from?

Anglo-Saxons, especially Americans, admire the Roman Empire very much, they still have this fetish, in rich colleges and universities they still study Latin and organize competitions on knowledge of ancient Roman history/literature/famous people.

They are attached to the Roman Empire, and so that it doesn't look too stupid, they put the definition of colonial to the word empire.

But there is a colossal difference between a colonial empire and a Roman-type empire.

When a Roman-type empire joins new territories, the inhabitants of these territories become CITIZENS of the EMPIRE. And the general imperial law applies to them + cultural, religious and administrative autonomy is left.

And how did your tongue turn at all.. compare serfdom in Russia (you obviously don't know absolutely what it is) with the habit of the African authorities to hunt their own people and sell them to whites on plantations across the ocean.

I explain it on my fingers in a popular way.

In the Russian Empire there was the status of a subject of the Russian tsar (now it would be said - a citizen of the empire). This status extended to everyone - to the inhabitants of the metropolis, to the inhabitants of the provinces.

In addition, in Russia there was a division into estates - on the basis of activity.
Not by skin color, not by origin, but by occupation.

For each estate, in addition to the general imperial code, there were their own laws, according to the activity

Nobility (originally military aristocracy, later large landowners)
Clergy
Merchants
Philistinism
Shop floors
The peasantry
Cossacks
Basurmans (nomadic tribes herders/hunters)

And what happened in the newly annexed territories to the empire?
when Poland became part of Russia, did they begin to drive all the peasants into serfs there?

No! read the relevant documents.
no. in Poland, for the peasants, their usual traditional life was preserved.

Did the Russian kingdom, originally Christian, begin to eradicate Islam in the new territories after the annexation of Kazan, Astrakhan, and so on?
no. On the contrary, new mosques have been built everywhere.

Unless when the tribes of nomads/pastoralists - east and south of the Urals - were subjugated, they began to be forced to lead a sedentary lifestyle?

no. The Empire introduced a new class of 'basurmans'. she fixed the rules of life familiar to Bashkirs, Kalymks and other nomadic tribes in the imperial code.

And the estate is not a caste. It's an occupation. Changed occupation = changed class.

In short, there has always been one problem in the Russian Empire (the same as in the Roman one) - the citizens of the newly annexed territories have always lived better than the inhabitants of the metropolis.

A Russian born into a family of serfs was a serf by birth, and no one drove Polish or Finnish peasants or nomadic tribes into serfs.

and again. you have absolutely no idea what serfdom is.

And in order to state authoritatively that this is a horror, it is necessary to give data for comparison, how "free" peasants lived in Europe at the same time.

in general. when a real empire comes, it begins to build factories/schools/hospitals in new territories and begins to pull the provinces up to the standard of living of the metropolis.

So it was in Rome. In Byzantium, in Austria Hungary, in Ottoman Empire. In Russia Empire.

and when the colonial one comes..
you know.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 3:28pm On Aug 16, 2023
Globetrot:
Check your mail.
I have checked my email; I will answer your questions little later as I will need to clarify something.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 3:01pm On Aug 16, 2023
Akuruoulo:
Wow this is coming from a Russian government controlled none propaganda channel.
Wow Russia is Soo str
So, let's try to estimate the amount of destroyed Ukrainian equipment from below, based on financial data.

Preliminary remarks:

We will try to estimate the lower bound of the actual amount of destroyed equipment. The "lower bound" means that the actual number of destroyed vehicles will necessarily be higher for the following reasons:

1. Bonuses are paid for personally destroyed equipment on the line of combat contact. On the example of pilots: they receive payments for downed helicopters / planes in combat. And for the destruction of equipment on the ground as a result of aerial bombardment, they do not receive payments.

Financial data also does not take into account, for example, the results of missile strikes on warehouses, transport convoys, railway stations and trains, permanent deployment camps, that is, the strikes of the Russian Aerospace Forces on the enemy's rear

2. bonuses are paid at the request/order of the unit commander. That is, it must be firmly established and confirmed that it was this person/this crew of a tank/artillery gun/aircraft who did it. And if the total number of destroyed equipment can always be viewed from above, including much later than the battle, then the basis for the commander's order listing specific people is not always possible to fix.

That is, even personally destroyed equipment will always be a little more than indicated in the financial documents.

3. making payments takes some time. Accordingly, some part of the equipment has already been included in the summary of the Ministry of Defense, but the money for it has not yet been paid and there are no traces of this equipment in the financial documentation.

For example, at the time of drawing up the financial report, several leopards had already been destroyed, but payments had not yet been received into the accounts of the soldiers. And leopards and other new NATO equipment have already been included in the report of the Ministry of Defense.

4. Inaccuracies are also possible due to the fact that the structure of the summary and the structure of the financial report are different.

I used the data from the press release of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to shorten the time, and not from a full detailed report; we are not writing a scientific dissertation here, but trying to give a superficial, quick assessment.

In addition, the press release mentions the total number of personally destroyed equipment for 2022, and for 2023 only for the period from January 1 to May 31, and the summary of the Ministry of Defense, which I published earlier, is quite recent, for the middle of August.

And in the press release there is no breakdown by type of weapons for 2022, only for some positions for 2023.

To be continued.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 1:42pm On Aug 16, 2023
GreenOris:
Are you Russian?
for what purpose are you interested?
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 1:00pm On Aug 16, 2023
Akuruoulo:
Putin aide have spoken
envy in silence
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 12:25pm On Aug 16, 2023
Akuruoulo:
Wow this is coming from a Russian government controlled none propaganda channel.
Wow Russia is Soo str
I myself always prefer to check the data published in the media, because today a lot of fakes and lies are spreading in the media.

Moreover, it is generally believed that everyone lies in the war.

Can we check how much the Russian Ministry of Defense is lying in its reports?
yes, we can.
we can estimate from below the amount of destroyed Ukrainian equipment, based on reports to the Ministry of Finance. the Russian military also reported to Putin how many bonuses they paid for the destroyed equipment, but you can try to lie to the president, but it is impossible to lie to the Ministry of Finance, the tax Inspectorate and the Accounting Chamber.


In Russia, the military have bank cards to which money is transferred (salary, bonuses); and all movements of funds on accounts are tracked by the tax service, Russia is a very computerized country. all departments are integrated into a single electronic system, so even if the Ministry of Finance would have missed something, it is impossible to deceive the tax authorities.

That is: if the Ministry of Finance has allocated $100 to the Ministry of Defense as a bonus to a particular soldier, the tax service should see these incomes on the person's salary card and check whether the military department has paid an income tax of $ 13 to the budget for the soldier.

Accordingly.
In mid-June, Putin met with media representatives, including well-known bloggers. The meeting was broadcast live

And one of the bloggers (our local clown/ fool) tried to lie to the whole country live in Putin's face for the sake of hype.

Blurted out, "but the guys from the front say that no bonuses were paid to anyone for the destroyed equipment."

Of course, Putin was surprised. But the Ministry of Finance was even more surprised "WTFhuh "

so a day later, the Ministry of Defense prepared a summary report on payments and published it.

in the next post I will give the data from the report and together we will see how the financial data correspond to the summary of the Ministry of Defense, which I gave earlier
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 11:46am On Aug 16, 2023
Akuruoulo:
Wow this is coming from a Russian government controlled none propaganda channel.
Wow Russia is Soo str
of course, the data from the Russians is a lie, and from Ukrainians with Americans is the pure truth

but you can perfectly check the real facts yourself
by googling on the web, videos from Ukrainian soldiers who tell what they see at the front with their own eyes, completely

And there are a lot of videos on the web with broken Ukrainian equipment right on the battlefield; filmed both from the Ukrainian side and from the Russian side.

The Russian Ministry of Defense always conducts objective control with the help of drones. For the work of artillery, for example.

And try to find the same video with the same amount of broken Russian equipment.

PS.
besides. The Russian Ministry of Defense pays bonuses to soldiers for every tank shot down, for a destroyed cannon, for a downed plane, and so on.
The price lists are published openly.
And there is no one who would be more distrustful and evil than officials from the Russian Ministry of Finance.
So the military has to confirm every fact of the destruction of equipment with objective control - otherwise there will be no bonuses
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 11:37pm On Aug 15, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Lets just say we learn, unlearn & relearn. I maybe wrong but i don't think Russia colonized any African country. In the 1884~1885 Berlin conference, partition/scramble of AFrica. i no see RUssia.
Indeed, Russia has never had colonies in Africa
Russia had no colonies anywhere at all, because this was not a colonial empire, but a real one. Classical empire. Like a Roman one.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f):
WrriterNig:
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Lvov is also a disputed territory.It was founded by the Russian Prince Daniel Galitsky and named after his son Lev.

And at all.

When at the Yalta conference, there was a conversation about what the post-war structure in Europe should be, Stalin said that Lvov should be part of the Soviet Union in Western Ukraine

Churchill objected to him and said that Lvov had never been included in the Russian Empire. To which Stalin replied: "But Warsaw was included in".

so I fundamentally disagree with Dmitry Medvedev. There is nothing to squander government lands.

UPD.
By the way, the Russian Empire once included Poland, Finland, and Alaska with a fort Ross in California.
So.. if we are talking about "Ukraine's accession to NATO in exchange for disputed territories," then it is worth considering the option "Ukraine moves to Alaska, we make the capital of Ukraine in a fort Ross and let it join NATO"
And Russia gets all of Ukraine in exchange and vows not to divide Poland once again
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 4:37pm On Aug 15, 2023
donjazzet:
This news was funny as fvck..

I'm my God, the incompetence of the Russian military is just soo stunning.

I'm sure in a years time, the putards here will be saying, "ordinary Moscow, Ukraine could not take". grin grin
https://politikus.info/video/154727-udar-po-zavodu-yuzhmash-v-dnepropetrovske.html

cat Vaska listens, "yes", but eats - a Russian proverb.

The Russian military is doing its job while you, along with the Ukrainian generals, are loudly talking about their incompetence

The video shows a missile strike at night on 08/15/2023 at the Yuzhmash plant in Dnepropetrovsk.

There, the Ukrainian "competent" military are constantly trying to organize at least the repair of military equipment, the plant has not been able to produce a new one for a long time.

Voice-overs of the video: frightened exclamations like "this is a factory! horror! more! Another one has arrived.. more." and checkmate.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 3:38pm On Aug 15, 2023
donjazzet:
This news was funny as fvck..

I'm my God, the incompetence of the Russian military is just soo stunning.

I'm sure in a years time, the putards here will be saying, "ordinary Moscow, Ukraine could not take". grin grin
Incompetent Russian military reports (15.08.2023):

In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 458 aircraft, 246 helicopters, 5761 unmanned aerial vehicles, 431 anti-aircraft missile systems, 11315 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1144 multiple rocket launchers, 5893 field artillery and mortars, as well as 12246 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 3:28pm On Aug 15, 2023
Watch how the Russian occupiers mock the residents of the occupied Ukrainian territories!!

in the video: a newly rebuilt school in Mariupol; the school was built by the engineering troops of the Ministry of Defense of Russia.

What the school looks like from the inside: classrooms for labor lessons (=training in crafts, cooking), chemistry, computer science and a medical office are shown
https://day-1923.livejournal.com/video/album/300/?mode=view&id=38569#rprecord=eyJpZCI6MjIyODEwMywicmVjb3JkSWQiOjIyMjgxMDN9

We urgently need to stop the aggressor!
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 2:57pm On Aug 15, 2023
dvkot:
so all those deaths was for nothing
well, this is just the beginning of bargaining with Russia on the topic "can we end the war already?".

and in the end, in exchange for the end of the war, there will be: Russia will receive Crimea + four more regions + the neutrality of Ukraine + the declaration of Bandera Nazis in Ukraine outlawed.

That's what the lives of Ukrainian will be spent on in the end.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 2:42pm On Aug 15, 2023
seunny4lif:
Chief of Staff to the NATO Secretary General, Stian Jenssen stated today that he believes a Solution to the ongoing War in Ukraine could be the Surrender of certain Territories, such as Crimea, to Russia in order to allow Ukraine to join the NATO Organization, with other Members of the Alliance having also spoken about this.
He further stated that there are other ways but this is an Option which should be considered.
ha-ha-ha..
My God, what funny nonsense Americans talk.

Russia attacked Ukraine in 2022 only because Western countries refused to guarantee Ukraine's neutrality (not to join NATO).

And besides Crimea, Russia already owns four more regions. Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions.
The Russians have already written this down in their Constitution.

NO WAY!

If Ukraine and the West wanted to get rid of the Russians only by ceding Crimea, they had to fulfill the Minsk agreements.
And not to use 8 years to prepare the Ukrainian army and pump up the country with weapons.

And now the train is gone.

PS. Russia will never give up its nuclear shield; and Ukraine's accession to NATO threatens Russia's nuclear shield.
Therefore, stupid NATO generals can not count on such agreements with Russia.

NO WAY!

UPD.
I know exactly what the Russians will say to such a proposal.
they will sympathetically ask those who suggest this: "Can I spit a chewed carrot into your mouth instead?"

For those who know Russian language, the saying looks like this:

"А жеваной морковкой тебе в рот не плюнуть"?
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 2:24pm On Aug 15, 2023
Biden announced assistance to those who lost their homes in the state of Hawaii, at $700 per household.

On Maui, about 2,700 houses with a total cost of $5.6 billion burned down, so all the aid is equal to $1.9 million.


There is no money, but you are holding on. Here Ukraine's democracy is in danger. Ukraine needs money more.

For comparison.

In Russia, if a family has lost its only home due to a natural disaster and has not received commercial disaster insurance (=the house was not insured or there is no insurance against such a disaster at all, or the case is recognized as force majeure and the insurance company does not pay anything), the family receives a certificate from the state for the purchase of housing anywhere in the country. That is: people choose a place where they would like to live, present the certificate issued to them to a special state fund and the fund pays the seller of housing the necessary amount of money.

This year, the Ministry of Industry and Trade has set the value for the average market value of 1 sq.m. of housing in Russia as a whole: 88,737 rubles.

At the same time, people can only buy such housing that meets the requirements for quality and communications (= the house / apartment must have sewerage, heating, hot/ cold water, electricity for lighting and electricity / gas for cooking), otherwise they will not be allowed to conclude a deal.


In Russia, there are social norms for the area of housing - there should be so many square meters per person.


Accordingly.

In 2023, the amount issued under the housing certificate for one person is 2.93 million rubles.; for two people - 3.72 million rubles.; for three 4.8 million rubles., for families of four or more people - 1.6 million rubles. for each. Today, the dollar exchange rate is 99.46, you can convert rubles into dollars yourself for an approximate representation (note: in Russia the cost of housing does not depend on the dollar exchange rate).


Of course, not in all regions / cities of the country a square meter of housing costs so much, somewhere more expensive (for example, in Moscow and the Moscow region or in the Crimea housing costs more), somewhere the same, and somewhere cheaper.

Russia is a huge country and fires, floods, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes and so on periodically occur in different places.

Sometimes the state centrally builds houses for the victims anew, sometimes offers certificates for housing.

As a recent example, I will cite what Russia is doing in the newly annexed territories.

destroyed towns/villages in the areas under Russian control have been rebuilt/are being rebuilt (for example, the city of Mariupol, the village of Volnovakha - you can search the Internet for photos/videos of how Mariupol or Volnovakha looks now).

And the residents of Kherson/Zaporozhye region, who were evacuated from the territories given under the control of Ukrainian soldiers (for example, the city of Kherson) - issued housing certificates to replace the lost housing.

so many have already settled in their own apartments, and not necessarily in the "terrible Siberia". Both in the central and southern federal districts there are plenty of places where you can buy housing for this money.

But on the other hand, there is a dictatorial undemocratic government in Russia smiley

UPD. in addition to money for housing, the state pays Russian citizens = victims of the disaster cash benefits for priority needs

Foreign AffairsRe: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by Jane74(f): 1:42pm On Aug 15, 2023
pansophist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywFtxZCrqEk

US President announcing to the American people in the 90s that Taiwan is part of China, and the government in Beijing (PRC) is the sole, legal representative of all of China.
Americans are masters of their word: they want - they give, they want - they take back
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 1:17pm On Aug 15, 2023
seunny4lif:
Now, many people knew that Putin never owned any property outside Russia
All people who pay even a little attention to reality know that Putin has nothing outside of Russia.

And he does not have personal palaces and huge accounts in Russia either.

He hardly remembers what money looks like (rubles or dollars) in general and what salary he receives as president of Russia.
His salary is completely automatically spent on charity

According to the law, the President of Russia is fully provided by the Russian budget.

Have you seen in which residences he lives permanently/ which he visits, with what dishes does he eat from and what cups/glasses does he drink from?

No billionaire in the world can afford this, it is impossible for any money to live the way the Russian emperors lived - this is how Putin lives (adjusted for modern amenities, of course) for many years

One Konstantinovsky Palace in St. Petersburg is worth something. Check out the photos/videos from there on the Internet. I'm not talking about the Kremlin, everyone knows its luxury.

And after retirement, some residences with full financial security will be given to him for use until the end of his life.

whining about Putin's billions makes Russians laugh out loud.

He doesn't need ridiculous human money and pathetic billionaires' yachts/houses he doesn't need either; besides, he has real power not only over Russia; he can influence the whole world.
Foreign AffairsRe: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by Jane74(f): 12:38pm On Aug 15, 2023
Just for fun, look at the screen shot; some explanations of the picture:

The global basic rating is a non–credit rating of the reliability and quality of investment companies' services, excluding external support.
As they say, yesterday the bear was strangled-strangled, but something went wrong.

In the comments there is noise, bedlam, smoke rocker and a keen desire to dump to Russia from America

Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 12:02pm On Aug 15, 2023
Watcharena:
Russia was kind enough to buy those foreign companies instead of seizing then in retaliation of Russian citizens assets seized by the western world
Yes, Russia very kindly provides Western companies with a "wide" choice when leaving Russia:

1. Not to get anything at all and forget the road to the Russian market forever

or

2. Get symbolic three pennies for their assets (which, moreover, cannot be withdrawn from Russia) in the hope that someday Russia's relations with Western countries will improve and the forgettable (not vindictive) Russians will let them back in.

By the way, Russians are actually VERY vindictive.

The Russians have a joke: we are not vindictive, we are just evil and our memory is very good (=we never forget anything).
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jane74(f): 11:24am On Aug 15, 2023
Ibime:
Lies for foolish Putards

Volkswagen owns Audi and Skoda yet the propagandist who wrote this separated them to make it seem to Putards (who mostly have double digit IQ) that car companies are coming back

Volkswagen has sold all its operations in Russia for $140m, something it invested $900m in, and ran away.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/19/business/volkswagen-russia-factory.html
yes, the news about Volkswagen's return to Russia is clickbait, fake.

But there is another news, maybe you will like it more:

Production of Volkswagen cars will begin in Uzbekistan. German automaker Volkswagen is considering the Jizzakh Auto plant in Uzbekistan as an assembly site for its products. As stated in the government decree, the local Ministry of Economy and Finance should develop documentation, conclude contracts with the bank, perform construction work and installation of equipment by December 2023.

Do you know that Uzbekistan is a member of the association of stupid putards, the Eurasec (formerly called the Customs Union)?

Putards may be stupid, but they are not greedy at all; it is very good for stupid putards if Uzbekistan (the former Soviet republic) can launch high-tech production at home.

If Volkswagen produces cars in Uzbekistan, then any russian putard (if he wants) will be able to buy new Volkswagen cars.

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