Please I don't need tribal wars here, but I'm about to state this information.
Don't be sentimental, just think about it and ask yourself if this is true.


The Yorubas occupying the southwestern region of Nigeria has been known to be the most religious liberal region in the West African country.
This liberalism can be traced to be enshrined in their rich culture. While this liberalism is a feat to praise and gloat about amongst the tribe and perhaps other ethnic groups, many people, even the yorubas, are not yet to know why this liberalism is imbibed in the region than any other areas in Nigeria. Colonization has a major part to play in this discourse.

The major reason for this religious liberalism can be pointed to the link with colonization. Which colonization? European colonization? Negative. Far from it.
The fulanis that infiltrated the country dating centuries ago from the Sahel, after taking hold of the Hausas, the natives of the extreme northern regions of the country, made a religious incursion into the Yoruba lines with their ancient religion of Islam.
Prior to this inroad southwesterly they saw that the Yorubas were majorly Traditionalists who believed more in worship of voodoo figures, and Christianity would later make a mix in the religious landscapes. This fulani colonization through religious conquest made many Yorubas to take up Islam but still retained their traditional religion. Others who were not taken by the adulteration became Christians because of the western missions.

This is the naked truth which resulted to the reason why you can see Yorubas who practice Islam and Christianity, but would invariably mix it with their traditional religion. Virtually many of the moslems in the region have a link to voodooism. Some Christians there go to their many churches with talismans or 'Charms', as Nigerians term it, tied underneath their clothes.
This religious mix watered their resolve in that regard and provided a type of liberalism or docility in the religious lines.
There has been a saying that this liberalism was also caused by the Fulanis who wanted to have Islam proliferated to other Yorubas and other regions of the country. This unverified rumor has it that in order for the Fulanis' foreign religion to thrive, the Yorubas must be made to intermarry with others, especially the Christians. Though the Fulanis do not intermarry with Christians, but they allowed Yorubas to do the obverse for their religion to wax stalwart in the region.
Many have questioned the rationale behind this intermarriage, some asked how a faithful or staunch moslems or Christian would intermarry.
Other tribes in the black nation has criticized the mix by saying that this liberalism is because the Yorubas are not to be trusted, that they, in the words of some, "stand on the fence, if not how can a good Christian agree to marry a moslem, no matter how long they have been friends".

Having traveled to countries, it seems this religious liberalism in marriage is mostly practised amongst the Yorubas. Even more civilized countries that have, over time, developed secularism and tolerance, still have some inhibitions in religious intermarriage, especially between the two main religions: Christianity and Islam. But despite the apparent slow pace of civilization in the Sub-Saharan country, the southwestern demographic has stood out in this religious practice. What reasons chosen to buttress personal opinions concerning this would need to be studied more.
Ergo, this is what is left to unravel about how deep this secularism has gone in the cultureligious view of the Yorubas.





...............David Piee

Mooh247:


I have lived in many countries and I can tell you for free it's all in your damn head as a black man

I shared a floor apartment with Jewish, Indi and fellow Muslim for a whole year in Sharjah UAE and not once did we have argument ,infact we all got fascinated by each other

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Yes. But that innate stereotype is there. I'm not telling you I don't have a Muslim as a friend. Friendship is different. Marriage is different. The western world is very civilized. But ask yourself how many intermarry across the two religions. They could be friends. Very good friends. But that's about it.

Mooh247:



This comment sums up a very terrible upbringing and mentality badly bigoted

Wow so you consider Religious differences first because you are a sentimental being and you would hold I'll feelings towards your own spouse over Arabic , Jewish Literature


Quite pathetic, well to burst your bubble while growing up I attended churches and still do and that doesn't make me less Muslim because I am liberal


Currently on my desk is a Quran and a Bible and I read whichever I like when I like to

You Ibos and Fulanis are extremist and I find it terribly disturbing

I have read the Bible , the Quran, Jewish Torah and they contain same character and stories of Jewish Arabic and Persian ancestors so why should I hate my fellow Yoruba over MiddleEast mythology


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you see the ethnic dichotomy rising now. You called ibos because you think I'm ibo.
That is the dichotomy appears in religion. Telling me it's not there is a big facade. It doesn't mean people should now kill each other because of it. Ethnic dichotomy is even easier to let go, but religion? Very hard. Travel round the world and see.

BabydiHot:
haaaa this my sweetheart
which one be Bible and Koran
add ifa join make e complete.
I like you in a way sha
you seems to me a nice fellow
come let's make babies

Don't mind him let him become whatever he wants to become. Just like a Christian marrying a native doctor as a woman and telling me he is liberal.
Deception.
There are lines to everything. If you cross them, a part of your soul is taken. You change

Mooh247:



This comment sums up a very terrible upbringing and mentality badly bigoted

Wow so you consider Religious differences first because you are a sentimental being and you would hold I'll feelings towards your own spouse over Arabic , Jewish Literature


Quite pathetic, well to burst your bubble while growing up I attended churches and still do and that doesn't make me less Muslim because I am liberal


Currently on my desk is a Quran and a Bible and I read whichever I like when I like to

You Ibos and Fulanis are extremist and I find it terribly disturbing

I have read the Bible , the Quran, Jewish Torah and they contain same character and stories of Jewish Arabic and Persian ancestors so why should I hate my fellow Yoruba over MiddleEast mythology


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I'm not talking about hatred. OK. Let's even talk about hatred. In Nigeria alone, you are seeing the ethnic dichotomy already. Not that it should be. Telling me it's not there is a height of pretence.
Many in the world see Islam as volatile and that stereotype in there already. Telling me you people are just liberals and intermarry is a smokescreen to hide pretence. That's why main fulani Muslims don't acknowledge you people as actual Muslims.

Mooh247:




Only an idiotic mumu would still think Tinubu controls Nigerian Navy and he is capable of an imaginary massacre

Atleast Owo massacre we saw the bodies and their families

Health wise he just had kneel surgery and he admitted it, President Roosevelt of United States was the longest serving US President and he was paralyzed waste down, Current Texas Governor is on Wheelcheer and running for 3rd term yet Tinubu cant contest due to kneel cap replacement surgery

Only a very stupid imbecilicc dunce would think Christian vs Muslim dichotomy exist among Yorubas, My dad is an Alhaji, is younger brother is an ordained Pastor, My sister is an Alhaja married to a deacon, My girlfriends mother is a Christian... And in your foolish mind you think we have any issues with religion, and Yorubas who are Christians are obligated to support Peter Obi

*When Nnamdi Azikwe traded Awolowo's place for Tafa Balewa it was not betrayal

*When Ibos massively voted Tofa over Abiola it wasn't betrayal,

*When Nnwosu Nullified Abiolas Election, Daniel Kanu hosted One million March for Abacha while Abiola and Obasanjo where in jail, it was not betrayal




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Yorubas always say there are liberal and there is no religious dichotomy in their land. They do not know that fact alone is what makes them dangerous, self-serving, double crossing, betrayers and slaves to fulanis. There is no country in the world without religious dichotomy. Especially in Nigeria where many are still behind in civilization. Even in the USA we have religious dichotomy there between Islam and Christianity. Humans are sentimental beings. And religion will always be a dichotomy in many places.
So telling me your father is a Muslim and your mother is a Christian or such like and you are happy with it. It reveals something. Mind you they both got married many years ago when such religious sentiment and dichotomy should hold sway and was popular. It was today, I would say maybe love blinded their eyes. It means that they hide some things, live in pretence and can easily cheat.
That is why you can see a Yoruba who is a Muslim in Ibadan, but a Christian whenever he goes back to Lagos.
What does it show. Don't rejoice much. That is embedded in the culture that is why it is dangerous and hypocritical

ntipro:
Homosexuality trait is extremely stubborn. To a great extent, I think it is natural. However, not everything we get from nature is desirable. We have natural disasters for instance.
From my studies, the only way is to live straight if you have gay tendencies is to build defense around it. Avoid the triggers. Expose yourself to straight things. If you are a Christian, stay with God. Gay spirit doesn't agree with God. So, staying with God or self discipline is recommended.

Do you know that Donnie Mclurkin admitted having the feeling till now?
This is why I don't condemn homosexuals except those that are enjoying the lifestyle.

Op God strengthen you more

OK.

DrFunmisticGlow:
I think you should explore this further, the depths of your feelings and attraction so as to know your sexual orientation.

Live your truth.

What other thing do you want me to write?
Speak on what I have written already. It was not easy confessing this. The flow and urge come, they do not come always. If I write when the urge to confess is not there, I tend to water down the message of the post and write things that may pass another message.
This is what I have written.

civboy:
I understand your problem. I know someone with the same issue: he was naturally effeminate, he went to a boarding school where he had two or three homosexual encounters (but just dry humping nothing further), he struggled with porn addiction, gay porn and lusting after some other men. But he became a Christian with a serious ministry; he is still battling but everyday, he chooses to say no to his desires and yes to obeying God.
Now, answer honestly my questions:
- what made you effeminate? Is it because you naturally feel soft and not very manly or because at some point in your life, you wanted to be a woman and entertained the fantasy?
- are you ready to put all the sins behind you? No more looking a man twice, no more gay porn, no more flirting with boys....?
- when will you look for a woman after your heart and get married?

What made me effeminate? Even though I can say I'm naturally quiet, soft spoken, always smiling, warm to be around and handsome, as some people (males and females) say, I have never wanted to be a woman. As I grew I noticed I have been more masculine in my voice and actions unlike when I was a kid. I don't walk or talk ike a girl.
And apart from the touching I did as a kid, I have not engaged in any sexual act with any man or woman, not that I fight not to. But I think sex is overrated or because of the addiction to masturbation and then trying to fight fornication as a Christian.

Am I ready to put all my sins behind me? No more looking at a boy twice or watching porn?

Yes. I know apart from my kid exposure that gay porn and masturbation are my major issues. I have started fighting those.
Not looking at boys twice? That, too. Though I feel warmer around boys. I have once told myself that I would prefer all boys as kids.
I just like everything about boys and men. The simplicity, the looks, everything.

I like how I have been open about this without sugar-coating it. I have started trying to look beyond physical appearance.

When will I get married? Not now, maybe in the next 5 years, I tell myself. Not because I hate women, but I think I'm not ready for family now. The responsibility that comes with family and the stress of handling a woman. And I take that raising a family now will limit my ambition

Flamemignon1:

Asexuals can also be gay,they can be gay, straight or bi so if he is...... he's a bisexual asexual......he prefers emotional and romantic relationships with both genders but not sex or he doesn't feel like sex is important for a relationship to thrive

Bi? Hmm.

Gkemz:
This your story is not clear. You are attracted to fellow guys, you watch gay porn and you lust after gays. You've had encounters with gays. And you are telling us that you don't get involved in gay activities. This story doesn't add up.

I don't have any other thing to hide here. Like I said have been lured into touching of my friend's male organ when I was 6 or 7 playfully, but we were aroused as kids while at it. I have also played with a girl at that same age. I have had people come to me not telling me they were gays, but I was able to dictate through their language and avoided them or become normal friends . Only one thought I was gay and wanted to initiate sexual relations with me and I refused him and preached to him, telling him something was wrong with him.
I can't even imagine myself having sexual relationship with any man. I have not, not even a woman. But I noticed I like men, boys. Handsome boys. I know that the gay porn is one of the factors of this likeness.

But I have been exposed to gay porns, even recently. Please take what I wrote as it is, if I continue to explain it, I will try to water down the story or give it another meaning. I wanted to discuss what has been happening to me without watering it down.

One person says I'm gay in need of triggers. I have had triggers. The boy I mentioned wanted to force himself on me to kiss me. If I think about it now, I feel like vomiting. I thank God it didn't occur. One had been telling me how he loved me. I just asked him if he was gay, he said no. He has not called me again.
Porn and masturbation had been trying to wreck my life. But gay porn. It's demonic. This is my worst regret in life.
I can't advise any to even try that out.

kriss2I6:

The joy of being yourself and finding comfort with your sexuality.

I hear. Are you finished? Thanks

czarr:
people don't know but demons gain access to the mind through light and sound.

Watching gay porn, the spirit can access your mind.
That's why the bible says to guard you heart (mind) with all diligence, out of it are the issues of life.

Yes.

kriss2I6:
It's not too late, kindly join the lgbtq community and experience joy.
No make anybody tell you otherwise.

Which joy? Please

Milli10:
My brother you be half gay. You are just one sex away with your fellow guy from being gay.

You need to fast and pray to God immensely for 14days to get yourself redeemed from this devilish spirit that's in you..

I don't think you have fasted half to what I have done. I even have ulcer now from fasting

Prettygirl200:
op the truth is that u are gay!! But u don't want to accept it bc u feel it's bad. As long as u are attracted to men, just forget it, u just need something or someone to trigger it out of u

Which other trigger do I need. I should force myself to have sex with my fellow man.

Karleb:


From what you described, you are bi sexual but I will recommend that you have sex with a girl, an endowed one.

If you do, you would see why many of us are straight.

Bisexual? But I don't really want to have sex with any woman or man.
Does it mean am now non-binary or what?

I will refuse to accept that I'm gay. I don't want that. I'm not trying to shy away. I have never wished to have sex with my fellow man. Ever.

Just needed people to read and share what they think.

Karleb:
Homosexuality has nothing to do being raped or exposure as a kid. I might be wrong tho but I strongly believe this.

Take for instance, in US where homosexuality is legal, where kids get to see gay couples kiss in the open, you'd expect that majority of the population will be gay but that's false, a lot of people are still straight, in fact, only few people are homosexuals compared to heterosexual.

In your own case, you've always had it in you.

The gay thing could be learnt tho but trust me, if you're not gay you cannot be gay. Even if you grow up in a place where you are the only straight person, you still wouldn't be gay or bi or any letter in the LGBTQ.

The worrying thing is, a lot of people don't know they are not straight, until they get exposed to gay content.

No. Do you know any gay. Just tell them to open up to you, if they can. They were introduced at one point or the other. I know people in boarding school introduced or exposed to it.
The number of homosexuals is high. You can't compare it to the entire population of US. The population is huge.

I continue.

After a while I traveled and noticed I was thinking about this medical student. It could not go away from my mind.

Please mind you. These people I'm thinking of, I'm not thinking of having sex with them. Very important to note. If given the opportunity of having sex with them I would reject. I always think of being close to them, being very close friends with them. I just admire them.

I have had opportunity of being lured into sex with the same sex. A Homosexual friend came to my house and wanted to lure into sex. I quickly reacted and sat him down, talking to him about the life. How it was wrong.
I have had homosexuals approach me for friendship, I have all rejected and have never regretted that

Back to the story, the thought of the boy was much in my heart. Most times we would greet when we saw each other. Nothing more than that, but I wanted more than greeting. I wanted such male friendship, not even sex.

I noticed that the guy liked seeing me, probably because I was presentable and dressed fine and all that. But I knew he was not a Homosexual.
After a few months , I came back and couldn't hide the thoughts. I asked for his number. He gave me.
When chatting, I told him I liked him and his personality, but he had been giving me high levels because of pride. I didn't know how to start talking. But I started out wrongly. It put the young man off and he warned me. I indeed liked his personality.
He told me to block him and delete his number. I had done that already. He also did that, too.



I know there are many going through this life in secret. I also know that my early encounters sexually, masturbation and pornography contribute to this. If I limit these, I notice, this goes.
I know many pass through this and call themselves gay.
Just like pornography, it is an addiction, but it should not dictate who you are. You should try to overcome it. I know its possible. Because I have witnessed the possibility in me especially if I stay away from masturbation, pornography and get more close to God. Even the thought of that irritates me.

We should also put effort to guide our kids on time. May gays today were assaulted by an adult or fellow kids when they were young

kriss2I6:
It's not too late, kindly join the lgbtq community and experience joy.
No make anybody tell you otherwise.

No please. It's wrong. I will die untimely. Many of the gays were assaulted as kids. It may lead to suicidal thoughts for me.
Please don't talk more. If I think about it, sometimes I want to puke.

I had to create this new account for this to avoid judgment. But what I will write here are all true.

For what it is worth, I'm a male, 30 years. I have noticed that I was a bit girlie, wore girls' clothes even in nursery 3 or so. Maybe I learned it from my sister who took care of me. I was also a bit handsome, gentle and soft spoken.

Few years ago in primary school, I guess I was like 6 or 7, I had two little sexual encounters. One with a fellow boy and the other with a girl.
I can't remember which came first. But I would go with the boy, first.
A boy much older than me, but still in his teens took me to an uncompleted building and he started playing and touching my male organ. I followed suit and we started touching each other's male organs while being aroused.
It was like the boy was known with that. How did I know? A lady passed by and looked through the window and saw us and told me I should never join the boy in his ways.

After that I have not had such an encounter again and I don't think I have said this to ears before in this way.
I also remember when I played with a small girl, my age mate, touching each other's organs. The family saw me and gave me a serious beating that day. But just like I said I can't remember the one that came first.

Fast forward to secondary school days, I went to boys boarding school. I heard about homosexuals in the school. I even knew one or two. Some thought that I was because of my nature. But the truth is that I was not. I had even been born again and was serious with God. More like a young pastor then.

Now during my university days, I continued with God and was even preaching. But somehow, I dabbled into masturbation, mistakenly. It was really the worst mistake of my life. My greatest regret till now.
I started growing in masturbation and later, pornography. I started watching porns, even gay porns and heterosexual ones.


I then noticed, I started getting attracted to males, though a preacher or a born again, if you don't mind. I was happy to see males naked and sometimes, I would even be aroused by it and then I would hide myself.

Then again, I noticed men started getting attracted to me. I believe some of them were gays.
I have never had sex with a man or woman in my 30 years of life. I don't even want to now, till I marry. But I am telling you what happened and what is happening.

This continued till it grew to the point that I would see a handsome boy and would admire or even lust after him. I was searching for handsome boys or men with my eyes. Though I admire beauty in girls, but it's more for boys or young men. I get easily carried away by fellow men. I easily like men than women. I would shout within myself and pray and rebuke the thoughts.
After a while it would stop and then start.

Recently, I should say this. I saw a young medical student. I immediately liked him from a far. I know he also liked me, but just as a young man who dresses well or just as a normal person.
I didn't like him for anything else, but because of that my nature of liking men more especially handsome boys. Again, the young boy was quiet and what have you.

Something happened, which I would like to share.




Continue later, I'm busy