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Possible line up for tomorrow


GK-Okoye(we know Rohr sha, e no go like bench am)

Defence

Ola Ekong(Ajayi) Balogun(akpoguma) Zaidu

Midfield

Onyeka
Agu Iwobi

Attack

Chukwueze Dessers Kalu(simon)


I don't think Rohr will start Paul upfront with wingers like chukwueze and Kalu, where the crossing wan comot from

Collins shouldn't start aswell, haven't played much this season
Omerou as well... If balogun is fit, it should be the oyinbo wall or bring in another oyinbo to replace... There is also a Semi Ajayi sef


Ola aina at Right back, Zaidu at left back
Make fine boy Tyrone enter second half

The midfield matter tayah me sha...

fabyom:
The last time Partey after Partey played against us (AM vs Homebased Eagles) na ordinary Nwakali dey use am shine like polish.

The guy passing is even worse! There is a parody video on Spurs website mocking him for always passing to the opponents.

Bros calm down

If you need compilations of KDB failed passes, e go full internet

Partey na good passer of the ball

andrewbaba44:
Must it be ndidi that arsenal will even purchase ?

There is time for everything and ndidi and partey no get the same destiny

As far as DM is concerned partey is not better then ndidi or even that Everton guy just because they play for smaller teams doesn’t make them bad

Allan is great


I've got my eyes on Brighton's Bissouma as well

Top guys

Well, the sky is big enough to fly

And IMO, ATM is a bigger club than Arsenal ATM

Arsenal might have the history but Atletico is the bigger club right now

TheSuperNerd:
This is exactly the argument that was next in line after Partey joined Arsenal. With the number of Arsenal fans on this thread, it was inevitable that the Partey-Ndidi comparison was gonna arise again.

But I was ready. And I kept enough receipts for an attempt at a balanced analysis.


Number 1: A Fallacy - Partey is a better player than Ndidi.

I am sorry, Partey is not a better player than Ndidi. And the Stats ratings shown below (apart from how long I have watched and seen both players) from whoscored for the past four seasons support this stance.

Partey is majorly a CM with much versatile qualities but that doesn't make him better. He is a CM afterall. And his passing accuracy is expectedly meant to be higher than that of DM in Ndidi (unless the DM in question is a Regista/DLP).

Ndidi is a DM. Also referred as a CDM (central defensive midfielder) whose role is basically to sit at the Midfield's base as the team's midfield Anchorman. Partey's role is a little different. He is a CM with the licence and abilities to get forward as he wills like a Box-to-box kind.

If there is anyone in the Super Eagles fold to compare partey directly to it would be Joe Aribo. Both are very similar kind of players and can play DM, CM and AM but are basically CMs with box-to-box qualities.

In their roles, both are World class performers but I can tell you for free that while Partey has been quite rated for a while due to his constant appearance in the UCL with Atletico Madrid, it is Ndidi who has been showing better improvements in the past two seasons compared to Partey (My next fallacy point will address one of the improvement areas - Passing).

Also, in Defensive actions alone, Partey has very decent numbers but he is no where close to the monstrosity of Ndidi's numbers in defensive actions. Ndidi led the whole of Europe (or was in top2/top3 on a few) in several defensive action stats and some others from Tackling, to interceptions per 90, to blocks, to counter pressures, to counter pressures turned immediately into an attack and more. So the comment that Partey does all that Ndidi does and more is fallacious. Partey only does it to a certain percentage but Ndidi does it at World class levels. That is the big difference. Partey only passes more, is more forward playing and that is it. He is a Bloody CM Naa.


Now on this point, the summary is this...VERSATILITY DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN BETTER. Afterall, if it is otherwise and Versatility always mean better then Etebo can also be said to be much better than both Partey and Ndidi. Etebo also gives prpgressive passes forward and his numbers at Gala are already racking up strongly. At the WC, Etebo has more take ons in one game against the WC finalists, Croatia than any other midfielder. Can Partey dream of such? Etebo's tackles rate is also up there... His interceptions game is also good and none of these two guys touch him on take-ons. Does that make him better? Versatility doesn't always mean better my good folks.

Bonus: Even as controversial as EA sports ratings can be sometimes, Ndidi has caught up with Partey as both players are now given the same Overall rating with 84 each.

In FIFA 19, Partey was 82. Ndidi was 81. In FIFA 20, partey was 84. Ndidi came up to 84 also. In FIFA 21, both remain on 84 with Ndidi having a potential cap of 88. Partey's 87.







Number 2: The passing stats. Partey or Ndidi. Who passes better?

On the overall, like I stated above, Partey is expected to having the better passing stats. And the whoscored ratings below prove that Partey has been the better ball passer in terms of Passing accuracy.

Even when I break the passing stats further down using Squawka stats matrix, you will find that Partey still edges it overall. Partey is definitely the more progressive passer of the two. No debates on that one.

But I have to point out something. Partey have always beaten Ndidi when it comes to Passing accuracy and for me, that is no surprise seeing as both are slightly different breeds of midfielders with actually different roles BUT JUST LAST SEASON, NDIDI HAD THE BETTER PASSING ACCURACY compared to Partey. Now that is shocking and true.

This again supports my statement that between the two, Ndidi is the one who has shown better improvements geometrically. "Out-passing" a ball-playing CM while still in your DM role (and you are no bloody Regista) mehn, that is something to take note of and keep a serious eye on. Ndidi's passing game has definitely made a quantum leap under Rodgers at Leicester in the past one year plus and the argument of Partey being a better passer will only hold now based on their previous seasons before 2019/2020.

With that said, Partey still made more passes in the Opposition half last season (770 in all) compared to Ndidi's 692.
In their own half, Ndidi made more (729) compared to Partey's 600.
Last season also, Partey delivered more throughballs (6) into the final third compared to Ndidi's 2.


So yes, Partey is the more progressive passer of the two but Ndidi has shown improvements in those progressing passing stats too as his numbers tell.

But when it comes to overall passing accuracy, Ndidi edged Partey for the first time, last season. That shows Ndidi really made crazy improvement in his passing game.




Number 3: The final point. Ndidi's Worth and Partey's Worth

You guys should be honest. If Ndidi had a release clause set at maybe 50M pounds, do you think some big club would not have come asking strong questions about the Midfield Anchorman?

But as it stands, there is no release clause on Ndidi so he could cost even higher. He has "a little arguably" been the Best DM in the EPL for the past three seasons and since his debut in the 2016/2017 campaign (from January 2017 even) he has been racking up numbers that only scream World class in that DM role. Numbers that absolutely define that DM role. So how much do you think he is gonna cost? Remember he is not coming from another league... He has been racking up those numbers in England. So that makes him even more valuable on the market for EPL clubs.


Partey had a release clause and to be honest, has Arsenal gotten Hossem Aouar, they won't have bothered with Partey this window. That is the truth. Arsenal fans in the house know this is true. Arsenal only went to activate Partey's clause that late b'cos they finally saw that they won't be getting Aouar this window. So they went for the guy they always considered their next midfield priority after Aouar.

If Arsenal wanted Partey that badly, why didn't they activate the clause a little sooner? Why wait till deadline day? It is b'cos Aouar was their top priority and not Partey. And 45M for Partey to make up on missing out on Aouar was a fair price to pay for the board to make to appease Arsenal fans and to make Mikel Arteta much happier with his current squad going forward.

If Andrewbaba44 can recall, I made a prediction on Leicester's next transfer big money sale some time ago before 2019/2020 season began or so... I mentioned Ben Chillwell, Maddison and Ndidi as the next guys that will bring in Huge cash for Leicester in the coming seasons.

So far so good, Chillwell has brought in 50M pounds for Leicester. Just like I predicted and we all know Ndidi will cost a little more than Chillwell. I understand Chillwell is English and has that "English factor" going for him hence his price tag but Ndidi has been the man in the EPL with crazy DM numbers and the whole of England knows that. So there is absolutely no way he won't go for more than his Transfermrkt.com value price currently put at 45M euros.

Ndidi will easily cost more than Partey. He is younger. And also a world class performer. So that is it.


In conclusion, Arsenal got a really fine player in Partey. And I say Congratulations... But I won't accept the fallacy that he is a much better player than Ndidi when Whoscored and even Sofascore say otherwise three times out of the past four seasons.

Good day to you all.

Where is the lie in this post? Where??


I remember when Thomas made his debut for Atletico Madrid, Nigga was used as A winger, AM, CM, DM, infact sometimes you will see him in defense

I was so impressed with his versatility... You don't expect someone that started as a winger cum AM to have a lower passing accuracy to a DM(through and through)


Partey is a great footballer but don't belittle Ndidi because Arsenal didn't buy him

The foxes won't accept 45 mil for Ndidi

I don't think Arteta bought Partey to be a DM

He will most likely be paired with Xhaka in the middle of the pack


You can hype the breda without insulting wilf...

12large1:
This ndidi case sef, I don give up. Its very insulting that Arsenal signed Partey before Ndidi not because of ghana vs Nigeria Rivalry but because of how people claim Ndidi is talented. Its eithee that he isn't good as proclaimed or he has a bad agent. Thunder go faya anyone that start posting ndidi is the beat ball winner again after this season

After the thunder is done with you

TheSuperNerd:
And when last did Cadiz play in La liga before their promotion last season?

See Dan... This is a step up move for Sadiq. A step up in quality. From Serbia to the Most technically proficient 2nd tier league in the world.
Ligue 1 didnt work out b'cos none of them clubs met his club's initial asking price of 15M. Now Almeria met it at 10M with bonuses of almost 5M. Look at the better prospects of this move and you will see it is not bad.

And yes, promotion is no guarantee like in Ekong's case but the point remains that Almeria are definitely of the sides to watch for promotion in the Segunda now. Time will tell.

The truth is, we can only hope

I expected him in a top league sha.. 600 years for those partisan guys wey no cave in earlier.. See where my jololo go... Chai

spillo1:
Now bring whatever stats, metric or agenda to support your theory that Dembele is more talented than Sancho. I am ready to debunk all of them.

At the moment, there is no statistics or metric to support my claim.. I speak football


Stats is not everything.. If you dwell on statistics, you will think Scott is a better footballer than Kovacic

spillo1:
O my God LMFAO......How the hell is Dembele more talented than Sancho an unarguable facts.

It's visible to the blind and audible to the deaf

A fully fit Dembouz is more talented than Sancho

Danielnino00:
So,what exactly is your point?
That we shouldn't share transfer speculations from the internet about our players on this thread again?

E tayah me oh

sheyishemba:
Trash

When I and komekn was telling y'all that those links to monaco lille and man united ( nah that one shock me pass ) were mere speculations and there is nothing substantive about it see the way start calling us names;haters now i made my previous assertion to show how stupid they were to believe those stupid transfer rumors and to make them face the reality that transfers from a very low/poor league like Serbia to big to Europe top 5 league is not that easy. Finito

I and Komekn
Looking for cheap relevance




Man own, have balls.. Nigga might not even know you exist


Every bloody transfer starts with a speculation before it grows into a move... So what's the biggie?

My honest advice, be your own man...

sheyishemba:
I thought y'all said Monaco and lille are interested in umar why is my nigga is on verge of joining almeria

Questions like these are very annoying and imo not necessary.. It seems like a subtle sub at someone

I believe nobody in here sit at the comfort of his room to come up with transfer speculations

To what end? Cheap nairaland likes and Hooyah celebrations?

Transfer news are posted as seen and if the player failed to move, is shouldn't be an avenue where you go like Shey you said


He(Jololo) was linked with numerous clubs as well as Dennis, but it seems the links weren't fruitful, if you got a problem with that, approach his agent


No come here to push ur Agenda

Nagode

spillo1:
30 what LMFAO. So we have spent 50million combined on this guy + pelliatri. but 10 extra million for Sancho is too much. Oh Woodward...

That pellistri look like an american Dan James

All pace,and nothing more

Father help us.. Amen

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komekn:
No.no

I absolutely was talking about Markovich.

He is a player I knew very well and also was privy to what the club felt about him. I had seen him training way too many times and in U23 games.

In 2019 there was only one Marko in Liverpool and thats what every one called him.

So stop using your limited knowledge to make an assumptive deduction based on your perception not the facts.

Forget English.. Receipts dey littered everywhere for this thread shey u no dey shame neh?


Danielnino was arguing about Ovie and how hard it will take for him to break into the Liverpool team citing Marko remarkable loan spell at Herta berlin, then you jumped in with your "I have connection from Heaven down to the seventh tier of Hell" narrative to write grujic off

Wetin concern Markovic(a winger) to Ovie(Except you telling Us that you have comprehension issues)

komekn:
Actually Marko left Liverpool in September 2019, and my reference was to him, albeit belatedly.

This is a player l.knew very very well and my post was very specific in regards to Marko.

In your desperate Dan bid to prove me wrong you have befuddled the matter. I did not know you had this obsessive fixation with my contributions.

I absolutely knew that Marko was on his way out and surplus to requirements as far back as 2018.

Grujic the other Marko was not even in the club at the time of my comments. He was on loan at Hertha

There was no confusion on my part, l know what Marko is called in the club and what he was doing.

One thing l haven't said is the names players are called among team mates and staff. Will have variations that are different from the names you may know them as officially.

In that context in late 2019, when I made the post it was about a player in Liverpool training with the U23 's and not one who had been on loan at Hertha all season.

Finally, Liverpool isn't the only club I know about or l have insight into.

https://www.nairaland.com/3018619/super-eagles-thread-dawn-new/7692#84120243

Go through your arguments again and see how stupid you sound right now

Sometimes i feel people go overboard in their attack of your person in this thread but sadly, you are not covering yourself in glory


What will it take u to admit you goof??

How hard can that be?

Pheew!! I can't wait for the day Sadiq/Nacho will serve you a big cake of shame, Maybe then you will tell Us you were referring to Sadiqsson and Nachovic

Nonsense and ingredients