₦airaland Forum

AngelicBeing:
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Address this issues raised by your dissatisfied client, instead of your back and forth here, mellow down and reach out to your client with an olive branch, if need be, apologize and if you have to do restitution to him for the sake of future projects, go ahead and do it

Here are some of the issue raised and I responded prompt. Just so that you have a better understanding of what transpired

Marilo:
Can you in all honesty disprove the fact that jeftalene is not JVexpat? Look,there are no fools here,okay? If you think you can pool wool over anybody's eyes,some of us are trained to smoke out people like you who are not smart enough to cover up your action/inaction.

I will advise you to do what is necessary (even if it takes you some extra quid off your pocket). Some of us sit on the fence and see people like you feed fat on other people's sweat and you still have the effrontery to come and claim saint. That is an insult on the collective interest of all hardworking people here.

I don't know you or any of the parties involved in this case but I am interested (maybe more than interested) in at least nailing one of those people who think being a "professional" on nairaland is a licence to feed fat on people's hard earned money.

Do the needful,this is no time for lame excuses!

Why not pm JVExpat and ask to meet him personally and take you to his site at least to confirm if m not working on his project at the moment. Must everybody support the complainant and dismiss d accused just to feel sympathetic. I bliv in evidence not assumptions.

back2sender:
See Jefthelene the fraudster asking questions, you have lost your right to ask questions here.
A thief who called himself a builder who collected money from a client and did not get the job done.
Jefthelene is a crook!

Lol...go and read the storyline again, the job was actually completed. See ur life?

Abeg let me concentrate on the ongoing project abeg. Dont have dat largesse of time for a confused attention seeker.

back2sender:
A Zombie is better than a THIEF WHICH YOU ARE

Now you resort to insult, taking panadol for another man's headache. That's how shameless you have become.

back2sender:
Ole buruku! Your are a chameleon and its only CROOKS that exhibit this kind of behaviour. You cannot speak for yourself but JV expat speaking for you (we burst this angle) before you rear your thief thief head to do a recant. Its too late carry your story to the marines and not us here.

Who cares about what you think? You also have right to your own opinions. Always spewing trash! Attention seeking mofo.

Let me get you busy. The question now is what terms and conditions did I not abide by? Kindly enumerate

AngelicBeing:
Not again, why cant some contractors / artisans abide by terms & conditions of agreed contractual obligations when they are given a job to do, they dont know that one negative comment is enough to close several opportunities and doors to them, what a shame, trust, trust and trust is an essential commodity in the book of some Nigerians.

Good observation, the question now is what terms and conditions did I not abide by? Kindly enumerate

back2sender:
The chickens are coming home to roost. More revelations coming out!
Jefthelene, Muyesky,..... Still counting.
Its even more insulting when rather than accept and make amends, you will see them claiming no fault of thiers. Jefthelene or what ever you call yourself keep deceiving yourself and not us here.
Go and check what is the defination of fraud, if shifting the goal post in the middle of a game is not fraud then i wonder what it is.

You are actually making a fool of yourself, not me. Just looking for names to call. Inability to interprets simple matters and check the merit of a case. Typical of zombies.

back2sender:
Its very unfortunate the kind of business men we have in Nigeria.
The complainant gave an elucid explanation of what took place while the roguesta called osaz came up with another moniker JVEPAT to decieve himself and not us.
This is the reason a man in my hood method of engaging workers is great. He will only pay after the job has been finished and inspected, if you dont agree to his terms make you waka go else where and he said he had to do this after his trust has been abused repeatedly by contractor, Builders, artisans etc.

Kindly desist from calling me names. JVEpat is my Client i met on dis forum and he also has a right to his own opinions. If there is any roguesta in this matter as it stands now, its you!

You swallow everything you read hook, line and sinker without crosschecking facts. Shows the kind of person you are really. No-one can tarnish my image no matter how hard they try.

olawale100:
If Osaz has verifiable evidence that my supervising engineer demanded bribe from him, he should please tell me. I paid him what was negotiated and even gave him extra for telephone calls.

At no point in time did Osa mentioned it to me that my Engineer demanded money. So why is it being mentioned here and now.

There are other discoveries which are relevant, that I made during the course of the project but I decided not to mention it here. I do not want to make it look petty.

The analogy I will make is this, if I pay for Mercedes, don't give me a VW bettle.

Osaz should read his WhatsApp messages and check what he promised me. He said he will be on site everyday of the project. Did I force him to write that?

Someone mentioned that I should not have paid the drillers, should I open my eyes and allow the project to drag unnecessarily? Please remember that I am paying for the casting machine and operator 15k per day.

I even had the courtesy of sending him a text that I will move funds to the drillers. Why did Osaz not tell me that he will make the payment? If like he claimed, he had paid them for up to 39 points, why did he not call them to disprove their claim.

My advise to anyone engaging any engineer or artisan or even in order sphere of human endeavour is to ensure there is no ambiguity or assumption when terms / scope of work are being discussed.

1. Now that i have raised the issue, kindly write me officially to provide you with the evidence and you will have it in no time or ask him to defend himself.

2. I promised to be on site from the day the machine was mobilized to site and there was no day i did not show up on site even the day of the mishap i was there and it was when i left that this whole hijack mess came up. Most times when i leave the site, I ensure that one of my men are on ground to take over. Can you disprove this?

3. You sent the text after you have paid them. That's not how things are done. I brought them because my own machine was not available for use at the time. It was only reasonable for you to allow me manage their excesses instead of going ahead to release money to them without due consultation. I remember when you called me in the middle of the crisis, i told you to hold on, let me communicate with them and resolve the matter. I actually moved some money to them that morning. The truth is they were demanding more money when they have barely reached the number of points paid for. Going ahead to release funds to them and asking me to hands off the project to you only gave them some undue advantage which was what they wanted anyway.

4. My advice to anyone getting involved in any project is to ensure that he/she ask the right questions of how do you intend to deliver the project and what are the equipment, labour, methods and materials you intend to deploy or use? And also to work closely with trusted supervisors not 'bribe-seeking' project hijackers. Pushing the blame to me alone as if i did a bad job altogether or i absconded with your money, even when i clearly gave you an option of refund of any excess you may have spent outside the contract sum and trying to defame my character here is completely out of point.

Now i know that client/customers are not always right.

godfatherx:
I have read the entire story, I feel Osaz and JVExpat are partners (in c****).

#My opinion, never do business with any of them.

Olawale100 you kinda derailed Ruggie's thread, but I have learnt from it.

You have a right to your own opinion

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Lol...u r such a joke. You can place an advert without making misguided statements.

hoyo:
nice one MR olawale, i thought we have seen the end of fraud on NL property, didnt know another one is springing up, Engr Osaz, where @thou, come and answer your query....Nigerians and fraud na 5&6

I, Engr. Osaz' Enobakhare (StrutE) is neither a fraudulent person nor did i engage in any fraudulent activity in the case in point. I continue to serve my clients both home and abroad within the best of my abilities.

My joy is that the Project Owner in question also admitted that it was not a case of fraud. It was neither a case of negligence. It was simply a case of a project hijack and series of misunderstanding which we have always resolved together.

My career aim is to make happy clients. But in situations like this, I am saddened at the events that occured thereafter having stated that we back out of the project for the time being and I, on behalf of my team therefore make a public appeal to the Client in question, Olawale100 (Mr. Olawale Olabintan) to bear with us.

With Regards.

I, Engr. Osaz' Enobakhare (StrutE) is neither a fraudulent person nor did i engage in any fraudulent activity in the case in point. I continue to serve my clients both home and abroad within the best of my abilities.

My joy is that the Project Owner in question also admitted that it was not a case of fraud. It was neither a case of negligence. It was simply a case of a project hijack and series of misunderstanding which we have always resolved together.

My career aim is to make happy clients. But in situations like this, I am saddened at the events that occured thereafter having stated that we back out of the project for the time being and I, on behalf of my team therefore make a public appeal to the Client in question, Olawale100 (Mr. Olawale Olabintan) to bear with us.

With Regards.

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