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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 3:48pm On Dec 25, 2017*

Empiree:
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They are not driving out the muslim, Christians, and other who are on the land. They will simply dwell among them. Furthermore, your claim about islam is not back up in the Bible. You don't have ref. for this in the Bible. and like I asked you before, why will it be muslims that will inherit the place "no matter what" while others had condition attached to them inheriting the land: this argument of your I find biase. Now, the war of Amargedon you talk about using gog and magog will arise becaus of this very occupation; where the whole world will turn against Israel. gog and magog are symbolic, not a actual phyaical name.

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 3:28pm On Dec 25, 2017*

Empiree:
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looking at Gen 13:15 God said to Abraham; For all the land that you see I give to you and your descendants FOREVER. Not a moment, forever. we both know that Abraham sent Hagai and Ishmael away, and that Isaac inherited all Abraham had. Isaac past the inheritance to Jacob(Israel) the father of the Israelites, who then passed it to them. The covenant was forever. So we know Ishmael does not have a part in it. Also, God never said anywhere in the scripture that another people will inherit the land, that we should now assume it was the muslim He refered to like you quoted. You argument is faulty, you claimed that the portion of the scripture in the old testament that does not suit you has been edited. why should you claim a book that has been existing for year before islam was falsified. The original copies still exist. Again, while will the muslim inherit it forever no matter what; I thought you said there were condition for everyone to possess the land?

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 1:07pm On Dec 25, 2017

Empiree:
sir, are you being hypocritical or what?. Why did you ignore everything i have been saying?. Why did you ignore when i said people lived their even before them?. Why did you ignore religious ruling i quoted from Bible?. Why did you ignore those videos of Jewish rabbis?. Why did you cherry pick what suits you?.

Now answer this since you claimed they aren't violent. Since those remnants (Jews) who lived amongst Arabs before zionists emerged, they lived in peace with the Arabs like cousins. Arabs didnt try to throw them into the ocean according to media propaganda. So why do they now caused trouble and violence in the region?. Read btw the lines. If you don't understand everything i have been saying, kindly rewind and re-read. Thanks

I actually went through your post and didn't want to use more of religious books and quotes than the hisotry we can all relate to. But since you want us to quote, it's ok.

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 1:02pm On Dec 25, 2017*

Ranchhoddas:
No one who observes facts devoid of religion would take the Israeli side. With Western backing, Israel has bribed and muscled its way into becoming a sovereign state in the Middle East.
It's funny how African Christians believe that their God is on Israel's side.

It is funny how you see this thing. Take a look at the region since Israel was displaced from that land, had there been any sovereign nation there. This is not religion now, this is history. What you are now refering to as the palestina state, who was there president before the state of Israel was formed? they where not a nation, but different people came in and settle in the region both arabs and others. Israelis were not new there, they had remnant, others came back to join and they decided to establish a government, then fight broke out. Why?

Christianity Etc › Re: CAN On Fuel Scarcity: This Looks Like An Attempt To Sabotage X-mas Celebrations by jeruzi(m): 12:20pm On Dec 25, 2017

kaorama:
Before, nko. The 5% must suffer. When you have religious fanatics masquerading as leaders, what do you expect. They will be smiling they have dealt with their enemies, but God will embarrass them at the appropriate time. This change is a curse to the nation of huts.

And you think am enjoying this FTC when my fellow citizens are suffering at the filling stations across the country?

Who are or what is the 5%?

Christianity Etc › Re: CAN On Fuel Scarcity: This Looks Like An Attempt To Sabotage X-mas Celebrations by jeruzi(m): 12:13pm On Dec 25, 2017

kaorama:
Before, nko. The 5% must suffer. When you have religious fanatics masquerading as leaders, what do you expect. They will be smiling they have dealt with their enemies, but God will embarrass them at the appropriate time. This change is a curse to the nation of huts.

And you think am enjoying this FTC when my fellow citizens are suffering at the filling stations across the country?

Who are the 5%?

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 2:00pm On Dec 24, 2017

Empiree:
see @bold, yes, that was true. Jews could only live among people but they can not have a state. If you watched the second video i posted up there you would see Rabbi said the same thing. Jews were living in the Holy Land before EU came but they lived amongst the Arabs in peace until zionist Jews kicked start the idea of "Jewish State". Thats when problem came

now you agree that the Jews where still there, and yet you claim it belong to the Arabs who now call themselves palestine. The strength of Israel by population was not enough to fill their land. when other came back, should they not takeover their land that they never totally left from the arabs who came in with time.

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 1:10pm On Dec 24, 2017*

Raintaker:
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First of all, the people that you call palestine today are not the original descendants of the philistines. The philistine can no longer be traced, as they mixed with the cananites, and are all no more now. The culture of the philistines and the palestines are two different cultures. Also, all the inhabitants of the region were initially called palestine; inhabitants which included Jews, muslims, and others. How did the name philistine change to palestine? It was from the greek, who described the region as palestine and that extended to the people. The romans aquired the name, and then the English. Those you claim are the descendants of the philistines are not. There is a belief that part of the jews and part of the muslims their today may be the direct descendant, but not all. Do your study well. The Jews had remnants on that land, so what is your claim and justification?

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 12:46pm On Dec 24, 2017

Raintaker:
Lol, so much ignorant Christaains on this thread, imagine someone saying there was nothing like Palestine during David's or whoever's reign.
So you didn't know that the Philistine mentioned in whatever religion book you guys use is the Palestine of today?
Just a change of pronunciation over so many years.

One other guy said, their ancestors got the land by fighting off the original inhabitants and killing them, so that makes it their land.

So when the offspring of the initial inhabitants reclaimed their land and re-established their, they've done something wrong right?
But when it comes to the Israelis, you lot claim they are back to reclaim their land hence their present day aggression.

It's really pitiable how you lots reason, bunch if 2-faced hypocritical Christians.

From your analysis, I see you didn't study the history of the region very well, and that you have spoken from the little knowledge of religion you have.

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 12:31pm On Dec 24, 2017

Ranchhoddas:
So forceful occupation and displacement of thousands of people, women and children among them is the way to go about it right.

If you study from the genesis of this new occupation, you would realise that the Jews did not start with violence but with "land purchasing". They bought lands with money. Please study it.Violence came as a counter measure. Also note that their where Jews on that land before the European Jews came in.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Hundreds Of Egyptians Ransacked A Church South Of Cairo. by jeruzi(m): 6:35pm On Dec 23, 2017

Olabenjamen22:
There hatred for anything Christianity is un-discribeable.

Well Jesus Christ have prophecy all of this thing that's happening now
John 16:1-4 King James Version (KJV)
16 These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
4 But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.

Hmmm. sure,The King said it. It's for us to be strong in the Lord.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 6:27pm On Dec 23, 2017

Ranchhoddas:
The only reason the Arabs have been unable to "flush" Israel out is Western interference.
The original aggressors were the invading Israelis.
What you call Arab aggression was a reaction to the original invasion. They could have settled in peace elsewhere. If they wanted part of that land, the least they could have done was to accede to the conditions and demands of their would-be hosts.

If you look at history, there were attempts to settle some place else,but the hosts where hostile at some point, so they had to return to THEIR OWN land, where history tells the world: as many as would care to listen, that they "live", both in th Holy Bible, and the quran

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 6:27pm On Dec 23, 2017

Ranchhoddas:
The only reason the Arabs have been unable to "flush" Israel out is Western interference.
The original aggressors were the invading Israelis.
What you call Arab aggression was a reaction to the original invasion. They could have settled in peace elsewhere. If they wanted part of that land, the least they could have done was to accede to the conditions and demands of their would-be hosts.

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 6:27pm On Dec 23, 2017

Ranchhoddas:
The only reason the Arabs have been unable to "flush" Israel out is Western interference.
The original aggressors were the invading Israelis.
What you call Arab aggression was a reaction to the original invasion. They could have settled in peace elsewhere. If they wanted part of that land, the least they could have done was to accede to the conditions and demands of their would-be hosts.

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 6:14pm On Dec 23, 2017

Empiree:
Can you tell us how the Holy Land was theirs from the beginning?

It is a well know truth written in the Holy Bible which holds so much of Israel's history, and the quran also has it written in it that it was given to them by God. It is not new of men to alway want to connect back to their origin. They possessed it by war, conquering the original inhabitant. Is it now bad for them to return and settle in peace?

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 5:57pm On Dec 23, 2017

Ranchhoddas:
So the solution to persecution is persecution of others right?
The Palestinians that they want to displace are not humans right?

the intention, and the assumptions are different. The Jews only want to settle back in their original settlement in peace. What you now call persecution is just a resistance against the aggression of the arabs. The so called Arabs never wanted Israel on that land, it was their inbility to jointly flush them out that gave room to their acceptance to acknowledge "the existence of the state of Israel" and then the two state solution. So what you call today aggression, persecution, or evil, is only a reaction to the force applied by the arabs. Also, Israel is willing to allow them settle among them in peace.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Hundreds Of Egyptians Ransacked A Church South Of Cairo. by jeruzi(m): 5:34pm On Dec 23, 2017

may God have mercy on the Christians and comfort them, in Jesus name. The muslims won't condem it now. what did these ones do? they didn't draw any picture of mohammed.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 3:49pm On Dec 23, 2017*

Empiree:
Remember Uganda was also suggested for them to live before UN, formerly the league of nations and the british decided Palastine land for them. If they had succeded given them Uganda, what do you think Ugandans would be doing by now?.

And you said to leave religion aside, do you know that Israel keeps using religion to back up their point?. As someone said earlier, where were they living before they moved to middle east?.

The region proposed was not good enough for settler from Europe, not for the weather but for the inhabitant of that land and the wild animal. It was kenya and they had to reject it. That religous book is the major history book they have.So they are only follow their history and tracing back their root. You asked about where they had lived: study "pogrom" and you will what bedeviled them everwhere they had lived. If you face persecution everywhere and you know your father's hous, won't return?

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 3:37pm On Dec 23, 2017

Ranchhoddas:
Where were they living all these years?

That's is a good question. Looking at history, you would see for yourself that; the Jew had been persecuted everywhere they lived because they had no place of their own. Go through the history and see. Is that what you want them to repeat when they know their root?

Celebrities › Re: See Fan That Looks Like Timi Dakolo (photos) by jeruzi(m): 2:18pm On Dec 23, 2017

safarigirl:
It's not a good thing to look like Timi Dakolo...it should give no one joy.

Why? What did he do?

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 12:39pm On Dec 23, 2017*

Ranchhoddas:
Not my dad.
My ancestors thousands of years ago.

No I won't.

I will assume that you won't fight for it just like you said. It's getting clearer. So they should lose the land because it's been a long time since their ancestors dwelt their. Hope you know their is a fight also in Asia for an Island that they are both (Japan, Skorea, ) laying claim to; this is all because of ancient histories. Being is not a reason to let go. Where should the large population if Israel live if they let go?

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 11:50am On Dec 23, 2017

Ranchhoddas:
It is not their land.

Hmmm. I thought you mentioned earlier that their ancestors dwelt there. How is it no longer their land. If you get to know that your dad had ten hectares of land in your village, and it is being occupied by someone else, won't you fight for it?

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 10:16am On Dec 23, 2017*

Ranchhoddas:
It's not their land.
At least no more their land than that of the Palestinians.

If I came to your house and told you to leave because my ancestors lived there centuries ago would you leave?

A two-state state solution has been proposed for long and Israel has opposed it at every turn.
If you want peace you have to make sacrifices.
Why has Israel refused that?

Once again it's not their land.

I get your view now. You agree it's their land, but because of other occupant that came in due to the time laps, they should settle for the two state policy. Some claim that the land is altogether not theirs.

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 8:40am On Dec 23, 2017

Ranchhoddas:
Please why do Nigerian Christians support Israel even when they do evil?

Why do you think God supports them?

Well, in the world everything has become relative. So I ask, what do you call evil? That a group of people are trying hard to settle down in their own land, and they are being resisted. Being resisted, they fight back; is that evil? Please, lets leave religion now, if they do not own that land nor settle there, where on earth then would they settle. this is not because I am a Christian. I just want to know.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 8:01am On Dec 23, 2017*

Wow! So no antiIsrael protester can show us another location in the world for Israel.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, Orji Uzor Kalu, Tinubu, Saraki Greet Gani Adams by jeruzi(m): 4:29pm On Dec 22, 2017

chibu4u2:
religion n politics, self acclaimed man of God smiling with criminals..........not surprised!

Them talk pass that one for Jesus matter. So men of God can't relate again.

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Christianity Etc › Where Is Isreal's Original Land? by jeruzi(op): 10:47am On Dec 22, 2017

There has been a lot of argument concerning the ownership of the land isreal now occupy. If they are not the owner, where then is their land in the the middle east, since the Holy Bible and quran talked about them? Scholars, give your views

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Foreign Affairs › Re: UN Jerusalem resolution: How each country voted by jeruzi(m): 10:15am On Dec 22, 2017

asunmoGGMU:
Is it a vote between Islam and Christianity? Simple YES or NO.

Are you new in world maters? why do you think the Arab nations and other islamic nations are doing what they are doing? Do you not see ISIS and others providing support because they are muslims and for the temple mount. so you answer, Is it a vote between Islam and Christianity? Simple YES or NO?

Foreign Affairs › Re: UN Jerusalem resolution: How each country voted by jeruzi(m): 7:50am On Dec 22, 2017*

Christians are the ones who can reason the most in the world. They can analyse anything. See how Christian nations swaved in the face of test while the islmic nations stood together and got the support of other nations. This is a big picture of what is happening in Nigeria. When we say Christians arise, take action, some will say nothing is happening, it is political, yet buhari has gone to the UN to further his islamic agenda/belief. Someone will come here and tell me that I am wrong or an extremist, but won't see those who have keep enlisting Nigeria in Islamic organisations, and voted in favour of palestine against what Nigeria really stands for (a secular state).

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Christianity Etc › It Is The Same Israel by jeruzi(op): 11:35pm On Dec 21, 2017*

Muslims have created several ways to turn the heart of Christians by say various things such:
1) It is not the same Israel.
2) The Jews don't like Christians.
3) The Jews don't like blacks.
4) The Jews don't believe in Jesus.
5) They call Christians fanatic
6) These muslims also claim to be christians.
The truth of the matter is that the Jews that now are, are still the same Jews that had been before. These are their descendants. God sent them to Egypt, He brought them back, He sent them to babylon, He brought them back, He scattered them all around, He still gathered them. This is not the first time, but by Biblical prophecy, this is the last time.
Biblical prophecies indicates that the Jews will still seek Christ and He will come again. Christians and Jews are connected, and the time is coming when they will believe on the Lord.

Foreign Affairs › Re: UN Votes, Rejects Trump's Decision On Recognition Of Jerusalem As Israel Capital by jeruzi(m): 11:18pm On Dec 21, 2017

Jerusalem for the Jews. Jerusalem for Israel. #No more mosque on the temple mount

Christianity Etc › Re: In All, The Dullest Christian Is Still Smarter Than The Smartest Athiest by jeruzi(m): 8:46pm On Dec 21, 2017*

@hopefulLandlord
The truth is that athiest have nothing that they know that the thiest do not know. Talking about science, many of the early scientists are believers, and many are still believer in God. If therefore they know the same thing on the ordinary "platform", and these go further to claim that there is actually a God, it must be that they have seen what you have not seen. To prove that God exists wrong as an athiest that believe in science reasoning, why do you not experiment with what the Christians are doing and see if you will get the same result. The result of all experiments are the same if carried out to specification. You said that there are many gods. Take for example: in Nigeria today there are people claiming to be who they are not to defraud. Anyone can claim to be buhari, present a forged papers to an unsuspecting person (foreigner) and swindle them; When other being claim to be God, with theories of hereafter, it doesn't make them God, nor cancel His. existence

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