₦airaland Forum

Thebadpolitican:
Eguisi is not an African soup stop making up things from thin air

Pounded yam if well traced it would be of Benin orgin exported to other Nigeria culture no tribe in Nigeria were skilled in wood carving
To even think of making pounded yam

Yorubas claiming eguisi hahaha

Iyan is yam in Benin. And ema is called pounded yam, you see why pounded yam as a food is a Yoruba loaned delicacy from the edos


Take a seat and go and claim the origin of amala and ewedu with oyo

Egusi seed is West African, I never said it was just "African", read well. Wood carving is the most basic skill, even a chimpanzee and an early man can do it lmaooo. Everybody in "Nigeria", africa and the rest of the world knew how to f-ing carve some wood. Such low iq or trolling on nairaland lmaoo. Plus Yorubas who were making bronze and metal work and dealing with gold and silver, didn't need Edos for anything. If anything it's the other way around.

Yorubas taught Edo bronze work and so many other things, all which are historically and arciologically confirmed. Yoruba and it's culture existed before Edos. If anything Edo "loaned" Yoruba foods. Iyan is pounded yam in yoruba, Isu is yam in Yoruba. Yorubas are known for their food, Edo , not so much.

And stop being pressed and pained, it's making you look jealous of a natural thing, such as a group of people's natural culinary skills.

Goodday90:
Odogwu have been in vouge before burna came to earth
Stop saying what you don’t know

Okay, I only heard odogwu when Burna boy sang it in the first song and mentioned it again in his kilometer song, "sheybi odogwu ni mi Sha". Igbos must have been saying it to themselves before hand, but it wasn't a popular nigerian slang. Sorry for diminishing it.

RedboneSmith:
Lmao. Which one is "Yoruba speaker" again. Burna boy is part-Rivers (Ekpeye) and part Edo. But this one now is wants to use "Yoruba speaker" to lay some kind of claim to him.

What have I not seen on this app.

Lmao, Yoruba speaker is someone who speaks Yoruba, which is what he is, he speaks Yoruba in his songs, not Ekpeye, his mother is Yoruba, he seems more connected to his yoruba side. Who is claiming him, I just stated facts. I have no bone to pick here lol.

Goodday90:
Nonsense talk

Why are you crying

I'm not biased, but i say west. The food is very diverse and tasty, and cannot be compared to any other region, though many from those other places also have good food.

Yoruba speaker burna boy made odogwu igbo word popular. "when i reach igbo land dem they call me odogwu", so the lyric goes.

Thebadpolitican:
Before you all start claiming things like delicacy for your tribe make sure , you are well equipped with historical knowledge, geography...and not just mere assumption

Egusi and pounded is an Edo delicacy, pounded yam could be a general soild food for west Africa back then. and not necessarily Edo origin but eguisi is an Edo invented soup with fact to back it up

Pounded yam is an English word my friend, Yorubas have always had Iyan ('pounded yam') from time immemorial. And Egusi isn't edo or igbo or Yoruba specific; egusi is also in several cultures from hausas to Ghana to Mali, Burkina Faso, Togo, Ghana, Côte d'Ivoire, Benin, Nigeria, and Cameroon. Some call it agushi, egusi, egwusi, agusi, ohue, Ikpan, Ikon, etc. So good luck finding the origins of the seed or who grew it first, or called it egusi or its several numerous names.

What you can argue is Nigerian egusi soup is the original and made the best, in my none biased opinion the Yoruba egusi soup is unmatched and also other ethnicities like igbos and edo do a good job too. Egusi is one of those food items our ancestors didn't "gate keep" just like garri (though there are different version of garri by ethnicity, and i prefer the Yoruba Ijebu garri, but garri in general is always nice, even in Ghana).

So unlike the culturally specific foods, foods like egusi and garri are spread across cultures and just have different versions by culture and region.

musiwa46:
Oluremi Odugbesan Ikusebiala from ogun state who later became Oluremi tinubu.

another one from the house of fraud.


I speak itsekiri and I think you people should offer apology to itsekiri people.  I understand Uhrobo and isoko, because uhrobo and isoko are close to each other.  and my childhood  friend were uhrobo and isoko
My classmate were itsekiri too. that how i learn itsekiri, he live just a street away from me as a child. His mother use to speak  itsekiri to him and his  brothers.   that how i learn itsekiri as a child.   he was the captain of my soccer team.

Oluremi Odugbesan Ikusebiala are Yoruba names. She is a Yoruba woman from Ogun state.

She's a Yoruba woman from Ogun state. All her birth names are Yoruba and so is her ethnicity. Such a dumb thread in retrospect. The article you posted mentioned a handful of popular dignitaries names of different Ethnicity attending an Itsekiri event, many of them Yoruba, Igbo and others, Remi being among the Yoruba guests. Idk how the thread diverted lmao, but as some as said, Itsekiri's are Yoruboid anyways too, so that made the thread extra dumb.

illicit:
Yes

So what do you think is the solution or do you think there is none. Or do you think what the solution will require is difficult.

illicit:
What I know is that Yoruba language is dying

Are you Yoruba?

illicit:
Yes

They are not speaking it and not willing t learn it so it will die out when it has no native speaker

Those elders u mentioned were not influenced by another language and nobody reads or write by their time

Now the future generation choses to speak in one other language and neglect their tongue

It's dying

I am a Linguist, even my professors know

If you say so. What about cameroonian languages, especially the minorites and the English side and french side? How about other regions of "Francophone" Africa, how do you focus attention on local languages there? Do you know about them? And how do you suggest to prevent Language death for Nigerian languages. The whole of Southern African languages and East African languages have no fear for language death in my opinion. They have found the perfect balance.

illicit:
It's dying

An average child can't read or write it

Some don't even speak it

It's becoming something they learn at school now rather than acquired at home

So... same with others Nigerian Languages. yoruba doesn't stand out. More people pick up on reading Yoruba easily though, compared to other Nigerian languages and it's in songs and social Media. Plus literacy isn't relevant here, we are talking about speaking, which is the basis of languages, which most people's ancestors mostly knew. So are you saying all Nigerian languages are dying because children hardly read in it?

Malory:
Yoruba language

Read my last post and stop trolling. Yoruba isn't even under that category. Yoruba language movie industry is among the most powerful in Africa, the 2nd being Hausa. I want to hear how Ijaw, Ibibio, and those other minority languages are doing.

illicit:
Olukumi is dead

Yoruba is dying

I doubt that Yoruba is one of the strongest languages in Nigeria. The average Yoruba youth speaks Yoruba fluently.

With the way some languages have children wo don't speak it well or fleuntly and therefore would not be able to pass it on to their children, how many languages do you think are in danger of being dead or maybe creolized? For example there are many dead and dying languages all over the world, from Europe to the Americas, even in Nigeria a language called Ajawa died in favor of Hausa, when the natives choose to speak Hausa instead for socio-economic reasons and therefore didn't pass on the language. Do you think for example some languages are dying in favor of others, with the focus being English. English had killed off several languages in Europe and in the Americas as well.

mr1759:
When will Britain return yaribaaa stolen or bought artifact if there's any like they are doing now in great Benin kingdom

Yorubas live rent free in your head and their superiority to you troubles your life.

mr1759:
How can oduduwa be a Yoruba man when the word Yoruba or yaribaaa, was a nickname given to some nameless people in eighteen century by Fulani during Fulani colonisation

Yoruba wasn't given to the Yorubas by Fulanis, because ancient letters before Yorubas ever met Fulanis show Arab traders refer to Yorubas as "Yorubas" because it was what they called themselves. This Yoruba nonsense is a myth that played on after some political insults. Yoruba also doesn't exist in Fulani language and has no etymological meaning in it.

Jameseddi1:
If Oduduwa came from the east of Yoruba Benin is the east of Yoruba is time for you guys to accept fact in world map Benin has always show to be east of Oyo from ancient time.

Even if Oduduwa came from east far across Nigeria it must have get to Benin first before going to Ife every map point Benin as the east of ife. Ife - Benin.

East as in the middle East, Eastern side of the globe, upward of north africa is another way it's described, not East of "Nigeria". The Oduduwa myth has nothing to do with Benin and this you're saying that came out of thin air by Edos who want to be linked with the starting of Yorubas, is not only foolish because it doesn't exist in yoruba mythology but also because Oduduwa is a myth, not a real person. Ethnicities are not born from one man. So rest. Ife is not Benin, and if there's any links between Edo and yoruba, Edo Will be the child, as Edo is also a minority group too.

[quote author=Theplotter post=110594317][/quote]Drop your weed and don't posting cultural revisionism from insecurity. There are different theories on Oduduwa among culturalists of yoruba land, and none of them includes him being from Benin. Oduduwa could have been one of the many Kings of yoruba Land, a yoruba man, famed in history for his time of rulership being peaceful.

He could also be a mythical figure, as he can also be put in the Yoruba creation story which involves Ife being the starting point of humanity. Newsflash many ethnicity has such figures and founders of their race, who wasn't actually a real person buried anywhere. This father concept, where a mythical man singularly birthed an ethnicity and Language is in some other ethnicities. But mythical figure or not, he was a yoruba man through and through and the ideology that surrounds him.

Oduduwa was also said to be from North up, "East" of the world, which can mean a migration theory of Yorubas coming from there. Oduduwa broken down means The Black man has come, in yoruba, O- du- du- wa, so it was definitely Black people, not another race. The next one can it together. Oduduwa's Father is said to be Lamurudu. Lamurudu = Nimrod.

You should read up on Nimrod. If this theory is true, and Oduduwa was an historical person and not a myth, then it ties into coming from the East of the world, and Nimrod was who his tower of Babel sparked a separation of a collective world Language into many and people leaving together with their ethnic groups.

So those are the theories on Oduduwa, all Yoruba in nature. He still remains a mythical figure though, unless anyone can point out his grave and prove of existence.