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Christianity EtcRe: Live Fearless In The Father's Love - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 7:41am On Sep 07, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: Once Saved Always Saved And Suicide - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(op): 7:40am On Sep 07, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: How Well Did I Understand Grace Before I Understood Grace? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 7:46pm On Sep 06, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: How Does God Deal With Our Sin? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 7:45pm On Sep 06, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: Live Fearless In The Father's Love - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 7:42pm On Sep 06, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: You Have First Class Righteousness - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 7:41pm On Sep 06, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: Your Every Blessing Is Found In The Person Of Jesus - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 7:40pm On Sep 06, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: Forgo Flattery, Exalt Jesus - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 7:39pm On Sep 06, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: Once Saved Always Saved And Suicide - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(op): 7:39pm On Sep 06, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: How Do We Seek The Kingdom Of God? Let's See - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 5:47pm On Sep 06, 2017
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Christianity EtcOnce Saved Always Saved And Suicide - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(op): 5:34pm On Sep 06, 2017
QUESTION
First I wanted to thank you for your awesome website. It is very clear that you thoroughly study God’s work and have a good understanding of it. And you have been a tremendous help in motivating me in my walk with the Lord.

Having said that I would like to ask for clarification on your view of suicide. You had stated in answering a previous question that you believed that if a person committed suicide and had previously received the gift of salvation, that person would spend eternity with God. Having been raised Pentecostal, the Once Saved Always Saved belief has not been something I would say I have believed in, but the way you describe it and back it up with scripture, I am tending to believe you have valid points.

Until we get to the issue of suicide. I am having a hard time believing that this is not a sin that will keep you out of heaven. If you are right, then, we Christians could always take the easy way out when things got tough. We could say “I’m ready to be with Jesus, and tired of this world” and take our life, and instantly be with him. That is the one area I have come across that is preventing me from getting completely ‘onboard’ your belief, of OSAS.



ANSWER
The idea that suicide is an unforgivable sin came from a time before theologians understood that God is not someone with an inexhaustible supply of time but is outside of time altogether. They believed that since a person who commits suicide can’t repent of his or her sin and ask forgiveness, it couldn’t be forgiven.

We now know that God is outside of time, knows the end from the beginning, and saw all the sins of our lifetime before we were born. When He went to the cross, He took all of them and nailed them there (Colossians 2:13-15 & Hebrews 10:12-14) including the sin of murder, whether of self or another. When you think about it, it doesn’t make sense that God would forgive a person for murdering some one else, but wouldn’t forgive someone who murders him or her self.

As for opting out by killing ourselves when things get tough, that argument doesn’t make any more sense than the one legalists use to deny the doctrine of Grace, saying that if we were saved by grace alone, everyone would run around raping and pillaging without restraint or regret. Even non-believers just don’t act that way.

I believe the act of suicide is motivated by a severe demonic oppression that can overpower even a believer. And when it does God knew it would happen before granting the believer’s plea for salvation, and had already extended His forgiveness to cover all the sins of the believer’s life including the last one.


https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/osas-and-suicide/

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Christianity EtcRe: HEAVEN : Unbroken Fellowship With God - John MacArthur by jiggaz(op): 8:51am On Sep 06, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: HEAVEN : Perfect Relationships : One Another - John MacArthur by jiggaz(op): 8:51am On Sep 06, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: Laodicea : To Him Who Overcomes ( Rev. 3:21) - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(op): 8:51am On Sep 06, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: Forgo Flattery, Exalt Jesus - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 8:46am On Sep 06, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: Forgo Flattery, Exalt Jesus - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 8:44am On Sep 06, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: HEAVEN : Unbroken Fellowship With God - John MacArthur by jiggaz(op): 8:47pm On Sep 05, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: The Revelation Story [ As John Might Have Told It Today ] - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(op): 8:46pm On Sep 05, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: God Wants You Free From Worries - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 8:44pm On Sep 05, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: See Your Enemies Flee Because Of Jesus - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 8:42pm On Sep 05, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: Winning The Battle For Your Mind ( Part 3 ) - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 5:39pm On Sep 05, 2017
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Christianity EtcRe: Winning The Battle For Your Mind ( Part 3 ) - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(op): 10:51am On Sep 05, 2017
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