₦airaland Forum

you never know. We may just lose to Croatia, then beat both Iceland and Argentina

Oasis007:
Fellow Eagulians.

I assure you all - we gonna see a different Eagle at the Mundial. We are able to keep our Tactics away from the Oppositions.

The Oppositions are as confused as the Fans. They don't know what's gonna happen at the Mundial, kinda difficult for the Scouts spying on us to analyze the Team credibly.

Kudos to Rohr, and I'm kinda satisfied with the 2nd Half Display.

Well, if Rohr maintains what has hardly worked since we qualified, he should have himself to blame. I hope he realizes the obvious now.

Icon79:
I can't believe I would say this but I do agree with you. IMHO, Rohr needs to sit him down ... read him the riots act: either play within the team or you sit on the bench. I don't even understand how he allowed Moses to monopolize all the set play. And it wasn't like he's killing them either!


O pari

modify #5. Moses should not start. period.

Icon79:
Gernot Rohr needs to make 5 changes, in his starting line up, if we really wanna do well in Russia:

1. Move Obi Mikel down - to partner Ndiid
2. Move Alex Iwobi to the central AM role
3. Play Kelechi Iheanacho upfront along with either Simon Nwankwo or Jude Ighalo
4. Tyroone Ehuehi should be our starting Right Back
5. Victor Moses shouldn't monopolize all the set plays.


O pari

The only good game we've had post WC qualification was against Argentina. I don't care about individual player ratings.. no be that one we go chop when WC start.

safarigirl:
Pre-World Cup friendlies.

1 Draw and 2 Losses.

Tajey-aways

1. As usual, we must concede a goal

2. Ighalo is very unlucky

3. Moses is still selfish

4. Musa and Shehu are fasting

5. Rohr is clueless as to his best formation

6. Ebuehi issa BOSS

7. Midfield is not cohesive, and so the team is not cohesive

8. We are a second half team

9. Expectations will be lowered both by Nigerians and the opposition

10. Mikel should collect the Beats By Dre headset he gave those boys

haha.. because na Biafra arrange the match hahaha

SlayerForever:
Why does the camera keep capturing the Biafran flag?

Kai. i had a bad feeling about this game

1. The players looked awkward while singing the national athemn
2. Nepa take light
3. Rain just dey fall anyhow
4. Ref end the match prematurely

Guys... don't be plastic fans oh.. At least Nigeria played better than Czech in the second half

what a shame to your sainthood!

forgiveness:
Case closed. EOD

False..

I only said I had a bad feeling about this match..

KK555:
If at the end of 90mins, Nigeria equalizes and wins by 3-1 0r 3-2, you,ll turn around and say that you knew the Eagles will beat the Czech.

True or False?

NEPA seized light here.. I already had a bad feeling about this match before the mishap.

I have already answered you question.. is the truth hard for you to swallow, after it has been proved to you?

forgiveness:
What is the truth again after you agreed with me that Shehu benched Agu is misleading and vague?

one is specific and the other is vague..
a lot of deductions can be made from a vague statement that can be misleading.. we are not in an English Language class, so I won't go on.

The point is, firstly I proved to you that Shehu was a prefered choice by Er, then I went ahead to show you that even before Er assumed the managerial role, Shehu still had a slightly better record.

The truth remains the truth regardless of what I say. But that's what you hate, the truth which has been staring at your face.. Stop chasing shadows and admit the truth. We are not in a law court.

forgiveness:
Take note of the bolded 'after' and 'far different'. Chai!

You have already agreed that Agu was not benched hence your conclusion by using 'misleading' and 'vague'.

Since, you have agreed to what I said before, why am I still a liar?

Sorry! EOD

a true saint would go do his research again and return to admit that he was wrong.. this guy you would have to keep arguing with him and catch him by the wrist first. Even then he would not still admit.. now, who likes the truth? he said he is humble. yes indeed!!

safarigirl:
you must be confusing forgiveness with humility

You really get time

Today I know this self-proclaimed saint ("by faith") called forgiveness has no humility to admit when he is wrong. He would go on arguing pointlessly and looking for ways to pick faults in your argument instead of admitting the truth that is staring at his face. na wa!!!
Truly, by their fruits you shall know them.

The statement is vague. That means it's not clear enough. Besides, Shehu came to the Turkish Super Lig on MatchDay 19.. Abi you no know wetin vague mean?
I have rendered you the liar but you are still looking for ways to score cheap points

forgiveness:
Hahahahahaha! You don turn to NEPA, on and off.



You don testified and agreed as the first witness na, say 'It could be misleading because it is PRETTY VAGUE' in your voice.

Case don finish and closed tey tey na.

Next time. Ndo! Hahahahahaha!

Match 1. Against Alanyaspor, Shehu paired with Agu in a double pivot. Left and Right respectively.
Deduction: Both players considered
2. Against Besiktas, Agu served a match suspension, Shehu played as a single DM in front of the center backs
Deduction: Suspension
3. Against Akhisarspor, Shehu played as a single DM ahead of the center backs. While Agu was benched
Deduction: Shehu is the preferred choice. Hence, Shehu benched Agu
Scores: Shehu 1-0 Agu
4. Against Malatyaspor, Agu played on the left side of a double pivot. Shehu was benched .
Deduction: Agu is the preferred choice .Hence, Agu benched Shehu
Scores: Shehu 1-1 Agu
5. Against Galatasaray, Agu was deployed to the left side DM in a 3-4-2-1 formation, Shehu featured as RM
Deduction: Both players played.
6. Against Kayserispor, Shehu deployed to left side pivot DM. Agu benched
Deduction: Shehu is the preferred choice. Hence, Shehu benched Agu
Scores: Shehu 2-1 Agu
7. Against Osmanlispor, Shehu at left DM, Agu in the right.
Deduction: Both considered
8. Against Sivasspor, Shehu serves suspension, Agu in the left side double pivot DM
Deduction: Suspension
9. Against Antalyaspor, Shehu played as RM, Agu in the left side of double pivot DM
Deduction: Both players considered
10. Against Kasimpasa, Shehu paired Agu. Shehu at left side of DM, and Agu right
Deduction: Both players considered

Scores during Le Guen's reign: Shehu 2-1 Agu


Match 11: Shehu paired Agu. Shehu at left side of DM, and Agu right
Deduction: Both players considered

Match 12: Shehu left DM position. Agu benched
Deduction: Shehu preferred specifically at left side of DM.
Scores: Shehu 3-1 Agu

Match 13: Shehu left DM position. Agu benched
Deduction: Shehu preferred specifically at left side of DM.
Scores: Shehu 4-1 Agu

Match 14: Shehu at RM, Agu still benched?
Deduction: Club can't do without Shehu playing. He either plays RM or DM. Has only been benched once.
Scores: Shehu 4-1 Agu (I wouldn't say Shehu benched Agu on this one)

Match 15: Shehu as left DM. Agu is still sitting in bench..
Deduction: Shehu the preferred choice. Agu in bench
Scores: Shehu 5-1 Agu

Match 16: Shehu giving a special leave, and from the woods Agu appears as DM. Soyalp moved to RM..
Deduction: Agu would most likely have served another time in bench had Shehu played

Final scores: Shehu 5-1 Agu

Oga, you don't have a case. The opportunities available to both has been single DM, left DM and right DM. Shehu has been indispensable in the club for the most part and has clearly been the preferred choice 5 times out 6.

So when people say Shehu benched Agu, they are pretty correct

Modified:
You are economical with the truth. You want to be caught by the wrist before you will admit(that's if you would give in). No humility
Any honest person who looks at the above points will make the right deduction from it.. it's clear like broad daylight

forgiveness:
Chai! It is no longer Shehu benched Agu in Turkey.... Agu is been bench by Shehu our right back in their club.... Shehu is benching Agu but rather it's now Shehu has been the preferred choice since Er took over Bhuuuhahaha!

Did Shehu bench Agu in the first match Er took over? Hahahahahaha! No! Agu and Shehu played together.

Does that look like since Er took over?

In the next match Shehu remained but Agu was dropped for Soyalp and not for Shehu, and that continued for 3 straight games. EOD

Out of the 6 matches remaining since took over, Agu and Shehu played the first match. It was in the next match he was replaced by Soyalp.

Even Shehu was played in the RM in the 5 matches he played.

Where did Shehu bench Agu?

Anyway, you have ended the false information with the bolded. EOD

Shehu was the preferred choice after Er took over as coach is far different from saying Shehu benched Agu in the Turkish league. The latter could be misleading because it is is pretty vague.

The point is Shehu has been the preferred choice since Er took over.. gat it??

you are just saying a bunch of nothings. Both players are right-footed. It's just like saying a striker can only flourish if played in the right side of a two-prong attack. And that he has only played once in his career on the left side of a two-prong attack. Are you even thinking? Where did Agu feature for the Super Eagles? Where did Agu feature in his club career besides Bursaspor, was it always on the right side DM? There isn't any SIGNIFICANT difference playing on the right or left of a double pivot DM, especially when comparing two players that are both right-footed. gat it? In fact I can give you 8-10 matches Agu featured on the left side of a double pivot prior to his move to Turkey. It's not new to him. The fact remains Er sees Shehu as a better DM. It is clear like broad daylight.


Modified
Let me even take you on as regards the period Shehu arrived the Super Lig to the time Le Guen was sacked,

1. Against Alanyaspor, Shehu paired with Agu in a double pivot. Left and Right respectively.
2. Against Besiktas, Agu served a match suspension, Shehu played as a single DM in front of the center backs
3. Against Akhisarspor, Shehu played as a single DM ahead of the center backs. While Agu was benched
Question: Why was Agu not the preferred player in that role?
4. Against Malatyaspor, Agu played on the left side of a double pivot. Shehu was benched (Agu the preferred choice clearly).
Question: Didn't Agu feature on the left side?
5. Against Galatasaray, Agu was deployed to the left side DM in a 3-4-2-1 formation, Shehu featured as RM
Question: Didn't Agu play at the left side here?
6. Against Kayserispor, Shehu deployed to left side pivot DM. Agu benched
Question: Why wasn't Agu favored to start in the left side (where he played in the previous game)?
7. Against Osmanlispor, Shehu at left DM, Agu in the right.
8. Against Sivasspor, Shehu serves suspension, Agu in the left side double pivot DM
Question: Here we go again. Agu plays in the left side DM. What were you yapping?
9. Against Antalyaspor, Shehu played as RM, Agu in the left side of double pivot DM
Question: Here we go again. What are you yapping?
10. Against Kasimpasa, Shehu paired Agu. Shehu at left side of DM, and Agu right

The above is the breakdown from the time Shehu arrived at Bursasor till the time Le Guen was sacked.
Oga, do you still have a case?
The only time Shehu was benched, Agu played on the left side DM. And he also played there several times since Shehu arrived.

Isn't it clear that they are somewhat in competition for DM roles? Be a saint bro and admit the truth.

forgiveness:
You mean after just 3 matches Agu didn't play after Le Guen was, this tantamount to Agu was displaced by Shehu in Turkish league, Agu is been bench by Shehu our right back... and Shehu is benching Agu? Bhuuuhahaha! Bhuuuhahaha! Bhuuuhahaha!

Very funny dudes here. Lmao.

So, It's now after Le Guen was sacked wey only 6 matches remained to be played?

Stop trying to be smart oga.

So because Agu played on the left side of the DMF, since Shehu came, he has been benched?

How many times did Agu play on the Left side of the DMF from the day Shehu landed in the club? Answer is once.. I mean just once after more than 6 - 7 games. Oya! Prove me wrong.

You said after the coach was sacked right, Agu was benched for Shehu.

Na lie, Agu and Shehu paired in the first match of the new and Agu played on the right side of the DMF. I lie?

As you have rightly said Soyalp benched Agu on the right side of the DMF in the second match of the new coach..

Now after the match, how many matches did Shehu play as a DMF in the last?

Only three out of the remaining 5 matches left.

Oga, Shehu didn't bench Agu on the right side of the DMF. Let us stop the lies abeg.

I don't know why I hate 4-3-3 formation

i didn't na.. it's this moniker i used to post multiple images.. the ban was already in effect, before I switched to this.

safarigirl:
you posted multiple images in quick succession, it could also be responsible for your ban

ok no wahala.. i would just wait it out... 24 hours

tbaba1234:
It has happened to me before...

I would assume you would have to take an action first now.. just ban someone for nothing.. usually i get banned by spam bots when i post stories on here repeatedly.

tbaba1234:
Were you banned by spambot? Spambot bans automatically.

When was the new coach appointed? Mustafa Er was appointed interim manager on April 10 this year. So we have to start from there because when people said Shehu benched Agu they are speaking about later in the season after Le Guen was fired.. Now the first 2 of the 8 matches I gave you was even prior to the firing of Le Guen.


Let's start the analysis:
Match 1: Agu played at the left side of the DM pivot while Shehu played as Right Midfielder.

Match 2: Shehu played at the left side of the DM (where Agu played the previous week), and Agu was moved to the right side of DM.

Match 3: Same as match 2 above

Match 4: Agu was clearly benched by Soyalp. Shehu retained his left DM position. Why was Agu not the preferred choice at left DM, a position he has played before? (Refer to Match 1 above).

Match 5: Shehu and Soyalp still a prefferred choice, Agu benched. Same question. Why was Agu not the preferred choice at left DM, a position he has played before?

Match 6: Shehu moved to RM, and Badu takes his place at left side of DM. What is Agu still doing in bench? Shehu proving indispensable

Match 7: Shehu and Soyalp partnering again as the DMs. Agu is still sitting in bench.. Not even coming in as a sub all this while.

Match 8: Shehu giving a special leave, and from the woods Agu appears as DM. Soyalp moved to RM..

From the above, if you can't deduce that Shehu is a preferred DM to Agu by Bursaspor new manager, Er, then you hate the truth.

Modified

Let me add that Mustafa Er was Bursaspor's assistant manager, when Le Guen was in charge. So both Agu and Shehu was well known to him before he became their interim coach.

forgiveness:
Where did Shehu benched Agu in the last 8 matches?

When was the first match Shehu played for the team in Turkey? January 27th, 2018

Did he bench Agu who just came back from serious injury? No. Agu still played on that day.

Did he bench him in the second match? No because Agu was suspended due to yellow card.

Did he bench him in the third match? I don't think so. Though Shehu started and Agu rested. It's called rotation because in the next match Agu played but Agu started from the bench.

So, did Shehu bench Agu in the fourth match? No. Shehu came on as a RM.

Did Shehu bench Agu in the fifth match? No Agu still started the match while Shehu played the RM position.

Agu still went ahead to start 5 matches save one. In which in three of those matches he paired Shehu but played the RM in one the match and missed one match due to suspension.

Where did he bench him?

Even in those 4 matches you claimed he benched Agu, Shehu played another role in a match.

So, who played in Agu role when Shehu played another role?

Definitely, Shehu never benched and confined Agu to the bench. Fact

Anything outside this, is a big fat lie.

wetin Joebie do sef when dem ban am?.. I've not even posted any web content in a while.. some people for this thread are childish o

well, we are still yet to see our best XI start. Those games were friendlies and the purpose is to learn from anything that did not click.

realpoacher:
Exactly what I am saying.... Why keep midfielders who can add offensive bite to your team on the bench meanwhile playing those who add nothing both offensively or defensively hiding under the pretext of experience and big league when in actual ability both are yet to deliver after several matches.?

Ogu and Ndidi should be given more playing time pairing Mikel... Enough is enough

later dem go talk say the first too players na twenty something, because Omidiji was born abroad

tbaba1234:
Under 15s..

John Ogu is a shooter. And Ndidi can also shoot from afar on a good day. Having both as our double pivot can be an asset, considering they are naturally left-footed and right-footed, respectively. Mikel as AM and Iwobi as a false 9. That's another good thing to think about.

realpoacher:
Honestly it pains me that Rohr has simply refused to play John Ogu consistently over Onazi or Joel Obi.

On present form, John Ogu's tackles, passing, assist And Goals scoring ability is far better than what those two can offer us.

I mean this is the only midfielder in our team that can score and is actually scoring apart from Iwobi.

With his height, he provides good option in both attacking and defending corners. But rohr will rather stubbornly stick to Onazi and Joel who are both short and can be bullied off the ball.

But John Ogu cannot be cannot be bullied

Am sorry, but if Rohr decides to still play Onazi and Joel at the world Cup they will be his biggest undoing.

I am Rohr's fan but if he messes up this chance to take us far at the tournament then by all means i will be the first to call for his sack.

You are welcome! I had to check again.. because everybody sabi look stats o

Martz101:
thanks for this

Post 2:

Shehu was given a special leave in match 8, which is the reason for his absence. Check this out:

kai who is the bigger liar, calling others liars. eh forgiveness

I present to you the last 8 matches Bursaspor was involved in, in that order, and let's see what the progressive change of formations mean as regards Shehu and Agu

Post 1:

Sidney Sam who turned down playing for Nigeria plays with Bochum in Bundesliga II today.. na wa

ehen at all at all na e bad

safarigirl:
lol, hashtag looks somehow, almost pathetic. I think the personal post tagging would work better

KOMEKN SPECIAL REPORT -- PREMIER LEAGUE 2

---

[Fulham U23 0-2 Southampton U23]

5 Nigerian descents on parade for their respective U23 sides.

18 year old forward, Nathan Tella started and scored Southampton's second goal. 17 year old forward, Michael Obafemi also lasted the entire duration for Southampton. Fela Olomola, on the other hand, remained on Southampton's bench.

Fulham's pair of defenders, 19 year old Adetayo Edun and 20 year old Elijah Adebayo both played from start to finish.

most def or we go create tag for am e.g #NigeriansForAlexIwobi.. who is else is in?

safarigirl:
how we wan take send the message as e don block him comments section?

Make we dey tag am for personal posts?