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hello nairaland atheists, firstly let me apologize if you guys find this thread insulting and i do believe most of you were once a christian or maybe already ve pass through several religion before you back out and made conclusion for atheism, and mostly due to frustration, at first you guys feel frustrated as your prayers were not answered or maybe the religion is not working for you as expected before the thought about “does God truely exist?” came into you. and maybe you have dedicate much time and prayed tiredlessly to no avail before you take time to read through the bible with “anger”. when you read the bible with anger or trying to disbelief you will never be satisfied but finding fault everywhere. i would like to say this that you guys are not the only forks who is feeling this way, even true believing christian does so due to all the above. let me also say this, the bible can not and never be satisfactory to human thought, there are mystic to it, those who believe or take the bible matters seriously do so by faith

@pualscholari, i can understand i am talking to my level, that's why. where do you think the lake of fire is? here on earth or what? haha. you keep talking about hurl to the earth and cast to earth. i just laugh you.

@pualscholari, dont use question to answer question, first admits that you were wrong and that satan had been cast to the ground. then we can enter another topic. dont argue baselessly for argument sake.

Lucifer became proud Just over 6,000 years ago according to the bible. Lucifer became jealous. He set out on a campaign to prove that he was above all. Lucifer began to be proud of his own glory and wisdom. "Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor.” Ezekiel 28:17 "you have set your heart as the heart of a god.” Ezekiel 28:6 Over time one third of the angels in heaven chose to side with Lucifer and to worship him instead of God. God made tireless efforts to persuade Lucifer to repent and return to HIm. Lucifer almost relented, but he would not give up his pride and humble himself. He refused to admit that he was wrong.

History of Satan – past
Satan was created by God thousands of years ago as a perfect angel. Satan was called Lucifer and he lived in heaven. Lucifer was above every other angel in heaven. His appearance was beautiful and dazzling. He radiated light and glory. He was covered with gold and shimmering jewels. Lucifer was the Chief Covering angel and he worked in the throne room of God.
12 "You were the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes Was prepared for you on the day you were created.
14 You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.” Ezekiel 28:12-14

History of Satan
The history of Satan began with riches and honor. Satan had a glorious future. Then he became jealous and proud. He refused to repent and his future became dark. The events of history continue as Satan comes to earth and tries to become the god of this world. Satan has caused more sorrow, pain, and death than any other individual in the history of the world. He delights in destruction. Satan would like to destroy every person on earth. As you read the history of Satan,

@pualscholari, there is something you dont know about that revelation, the angels of satan has already be cast down. roaming the earth and the abyss. dont confuse yourself. the revelation have some mystic about past and present and future. dont twist it.
revelation 12 12, Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. this things has already be. the woe are already on the sea and the land demons everywhere. the devil has been hurl down. grow some mystic understanding bro.

thanks bro for this piece, but you miss to say something... atheism is an ocult not religion. no big deal.

yes, no tithe, no preaching, only praises and worships. give hymns and recite the ten commandment, as for ten commandment you know anybody can interpret that.

history has it that the preachers of the bible always contradict themselves. they will preach a sound and powerful preaching today but you will be surprise and disappointed at the controversy the next day preaching as it will contradict the previous preaching. the funny part they say is the word of the Lord, but my God is not a confusing I AM THAT I AM. if you watch this pastors closely their teaching every sunday contradict. why cant them just preach the 10 commandment and give praises and all that then church close. because this ten constitution known as commandment carries everything a child of God needs. just like the loads of nigeria constitution which contradicts itself. but the america constitution is just a flat few pages. it's a known fact that it's only a corrupt constitution that is bulky so that the corrupt officials can defend themselves with another chapters and contradiction. i am on the verge of establishing a new faith of the Ten commandment only. please join me on this movement. thank you

Revelation 12:7

New International Version (©2011) Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.

New Living Translation (©2007) Then there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon and his angels.

English Standard Version (©2001) Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back,

New American Standard Bible (©1995) And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war,

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009) Then war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon. The dragon and his angels also fought,

International Standard Version (©2012) Then a war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels fought back.
NET Bible (©2006) Then war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) And there was war in Heaven: Michael and his Angels fighting with the Dragon; and the Dragon and its Angels fought

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) Then a war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels had to fight a war with the serpent. The serpent and its angels fought.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003) And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

American King James Version And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

American Standard Version And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels going forth to war with the dragon; and the dragon warred and his angels;

Douay-Rheims Bible And there was a great battle in heaven, Michael and his angels fought with the dragon, and the dragon fought and his angels:

Darby Bible Translation And there was war in the heaven: Michael and his angels went to war with the dragon. And the dragon fought, and his angels;

English Revised Version And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels going forth to war with the dragon; and the dragon warred and his angels;

Webster's Bible Translation And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Weymouth New Testament And war broke out in Heaven, Michael and his angels engaging in battle with the Dragon.

World English Bible There was war in the sky. Michael and his angels made war on the dragon. The dragon and his angels made war.

Young's Literal Translation And there came war in the heaven; Michael and his messengers did war against the dragon, and the dragon did war, and his messengers,

Book of Isaiah Main article: Lucifer Parallels are drawn to the passage in Isaiah 14:4-17 that mentions the Morning star that had "fallen from heaven" and was "cast down to the earth". In verse 12 of this passage, the Hebrew word that referred to the morning star was translated into Latin as Lucifer . With the application to the Devil of the morning star story, "Lucifer" was then applied to him as a proper name. The Jewish Encyclopedia states that the myth concerning the Morning star was transferred to Satan by the first century before the Common Era, citing in support of this view the Life of Adam and Eve and the Slavonic Book of Enoch 29:4, 31:4, where Satan-Sataniel is described as having been one of the archangels. Because he contrived "to make his throne higher than the clouds over the earth and resemble 'My power' on high", Satan-Sataniel was hurled down, with his angels, and since then he has been flying in the air continually above the abyss. According to Jewish thought, the passage in Isaiah was used to prophesy the fate of the King of Babylon , who is described as aiming to rival God.

@pualscholari, let take a look at this, michael is a powerful archangel just like satan and even more powerful or so. michael has his own angels just as satan does. they fought war and satan was defeated and his angels. this verse is well convincing that michael pronounced the war. because before war there must be pronouncement from the leader. let see what this revelation verse has for us. read the following: "Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back, but he was defeated and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world – he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him."

@pualscholari, who is then the leader? you are saying what you dont know

i am using a windows mobile phone. and it runs before me. it spells things i don't really want before me. when i click any key it runs and spell by itself and when you are not carefully watching you missed many things like word and spellings

hello, i cant really breath with locked windows and ceiling fun, if i do, it will get to a point i wont be able to breath properly. my noise will so blocked and with no strength. i prefer open windows wide open for fresh natural air and while fun is completely off. eventhough the windows are opened and fun is working i still cannot sleep well, a heavy noise and force to breath with hot temperature. the fun must be off or else except a very spacious place but there must still be a open place for oxygen, and AC also work fine. is like i need more oxygen then abnormal or anybody else because i see people sleeping while everywhere is locked without stress? because of this i sleep in my room alone. i cant sleep with people in a room where there will be less oxygen and much carbon which may trigger my lounges. why me ? is this normal? someone in the medical field should help me out. thanks

You've heard the saying, "The more things change, the more they stay the same." Well, that's certainly true here. No matter what language you use, whether you translate, transliterate, or what direction you spell, YHWH's name means "I am that I am." And it directly points to His Real name, which is the same in all languages. So here's the structure of the rest of this writing: First I'll discuss why this is so important. Just what does "I AM" tell us about YHWH ? What are we overlooking? Then, once we know a bit more about the meaning of "I AM", we'll look at the power and uses of names in general and how they apply to the specific case of YHWH . Then, knowing the possibilities inherent in the personal name, we'll remove the final veil to see the Real name, and apply what we've learned about YHWH to His Real name. And I'll finish with some practical considerations and exercises to help this all sink in and become increasingly real. That's when the fun starts. Can you imagine what it would be like to be a fish who enjoyed drinking water as much as most people enjoy eating ice cream? Can you imagine what it would be like to gain a euphoric high just from breathing air? If YHWH is really everywhere, can you imagine what it would be like to find delight in that presence?

So there you have it. God's personal name, as we translate its meaning in English, is "I am that I am." Here are some other ways it has been translated: He who is The self-existent one He who is ever becoming what He is Is-ness is is-ness That may not seem like it says very much. That's because it is a statement of infinite truth. God's name, the I Am, reveals the fullness of His nature. All of God's nature and attributes are embodied in His name. But at first it seems like air to a bird. "So what's the big deal?" I hope to be able to show you just how big a deal it is, and what it means for you. To do that we're going to need a brief lesson in linguistics. This may seem confusing, but believe me, this is very important. It goes like this: To translate is to explain the meaning of one language using the words of another. To transliterate is to spell a word using the letters of another language. "I am" is the English translation of the meaning of God's personal name. The English transliteration of God's personal name is YHWH. The four Hebrew letters transliterated YHWH are: a Yod, rhymes with "rode", which we transliterate "Y" a He, rhymes with "say", which we transliterate "H" a Vav, like "lava", which we transliterate "W" or "V" another He Originally Hebrew (we're talkin' over 3000 years ago, folks!) didn't have any vowels, and was written right to left. So let's summarize. God's name, as written in Hebrew right to left: Spelled left to right: Transliterated into English: YHWH With vowels added: YAHWEH Translated: I AM WHO I AM There. Now you have all the tools you'll need.

1 Now Moses was pasturing the flock of Jethro His father-in-law, the priest of Midian; and He led the flock to the west side of the wilderness, and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 And the Angel of the Lord appeared to him in a blazing fire from the midst of a bush; and He looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, yet the bush was not consumed. 3 So Moses said, "I must turn aside now, and see this marvelous sight, why the bush is not burned up." 4 When the Lord saw that he turned aside to look, God called to him from the midst of the bush, and said, "Moses, Moses!" And Moses said, "Here I am." 5 Then God said, "Do not come near here; remove your sandals from your feet, for the place on which you are standing is holy ground." 6 He said also, "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Issac, and the God of Jacob." Then Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God. 7 And the Lord said, "I have seen the affliction of my people who are in Egypt, and have given heed to their cry because of their taskmasters, for I am aware of their sufferings. 8 "So I have come down to deliver them from the power of the Egyptians, and to bring them up from that land to a good and spacious land, to a land flowing with milk and honey, to the place of the Canaanite and the Hittite and the Amorite and the Perrizite and the Hivite and the Jebusite. 9 And now, behold, the cry of the sons of Israel has come to me; furthermore, I have seen the oppression with which the Egyptians are oppressing them. 10 Therefore, come now, and I will send you to Pharaoh, so that you may bring my people, the sons of Israel, out of Egypt." 11 But Moses said to God, "Who am I, that I should go to Pharaoh, and that I should bring the sons of Israel out of Egypt?" 12 And He said, "Certainly I will be with you, and this shall be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: when you have brought the people out of Egypt, you shall worship God at this mountain." 13 Then Moses said to God, "Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I shall say to them, `The God of your fathers has sent me to you.' Now they may say to me, `What is His name?' What shall I say to them?" 14 And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM" ; and He said, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, `I AM has sent me to you.'" 15 And God, furthermore, said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, `The Lord, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial-name to all generations."

In the entire world's religions there is no revelation or rationalization of God as clear and powerful as the Name that He spoke to Moses. And this personal name is directly related to God's Real name. In short, the Name God revealed to Moses is the most powerful religious truth in the world, a huge canopy under which all other religions and truths reside. So enough already! What is this name? Well, Moses asked the same question. You can find this in the Bible, in the Third chapter of Exodus.

The Biblical Record In the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religious/ cultural tradition, spanning several millennia and the vast majority of the western world, there is only one acknowledged personal name for God. There are many descriptions (the almighty, the beneficent, etc) but only one personal name of God. The Islamic tradition speaks of the "100 names of Allah", but these are actually titles. The word "Allah" is Arabic for "God", which is English for the Hebrew word "Elohim".

what is God real name? scriptural please, does it mean that the true name has been lost? down to the hebrew, they do not mention the name of God. they fill the name is too holy to be mention and that its sinful to mention the name of God. and for this reason the true name whom God calls Him self has not been use rather than a title of different language. in this thread we will go deep down to dig out the true name. people opinion and comments are welcome

negative angel the dreadful satan,

lucifer
Lucifer is the representation of pride, mammon of greed, envy, and e.t.c.

here are list of archangels and their manifestation and gifts.


Michael – strength, honour, protection


Gabriel – harmony, purity, resurrection, mercy, revelation


Raphael – one who heals, love and devotion


Uriel – the fire of God, peace, psychic phenomena


Sariel – angel of knowledge, healing and faithfulness


Raguel – angel of earth, a guardian, friendship


Jarahmeel – guidance, angel of true visions

Jophiel – awareness, enlightenment, open- mindedness, freedom of thought and beauty


Chamuel - love, charity, adoration, compassion, gratitude


Raziel – giver of divine mysteries as well as an angel of knowledge


Zadkiel – angel of mercy and righteousness, freedom, guidance

Angels live a dimension that doesn’t have any restriction on time or space so they can be with several people at the same time. So don’t worry if you need to call upon them to be with you and others at the same time. Remember no question is too big or small just ask and it will be answered. I’ve noticed that once I started to practice the Law of Attraction along with asking my angels for help, it has helped me to release fears, which caused me to feel better about myself and once I felt better my vibration rose which allowed me to manifest faster.

Archangel Jophiel
whose name means “Beauty of God” Jophiel helps you to clear your mind from negative thoughts in order to bring your thoughts to a higher vibration so you will be able to manifest your desires.

Archangel Chamuel
whose name means the “Eyes of God” Chamuel provides comfort and protection. You can call upon Chamuel if you need help with a current relationship, finding a soulmate or just feeling more love, joy and gratitude. Chamuel can help you to find any misplaced item. If you’ve misplaced something, just ask where is it and Chamuel will assist you with locating it.

Archangel Gabriel
is known as the messenger of God. Gabriel can assist in all matters when it comes to children such as child conception, adoption etc. Gabriel can also help when it comes to dealing with a difficult situation in regards to raising your children. If you have any issues with your child you can ask Gabriel for help, you can even send Gabriel to your child’s side whenever you feel that they are in trouble, sad or just need help in some way. Gabriel is also the angel of creativity and purifying your thoughts and your mind. Gabriel assists writers, teachers and communicators. If you need help writing a book ask Gabriel for assistance and Gabriel will guide you with thoughts and ideas for your writings.

Archangel Raphael
whose name means “God Heals” Raphael is a powerful healer. Raphael can assist you with the healing of any ailment that you feel that you may have. All you have to do is ask Raphael now.

Archangel Michael
who is the leader of the Archangels– His main goal is to clear the earth of fear. You can call upon Michael to clear you of any fears. You can call upon him if you are in need direction in regards to career change or spiritual growth, or if you want to feel safe or to ask for safety for your loved ones. You can also ask Michael to clear your home of negative energies.

There are angels that you can call upon for help, they are called Archangels. There are several, but I am only going to name a few. some of this angels fought with the great dragon that dreadful satan and cast him down to the ground. there are also several mystics to this interpretation. when you are praying for back to sender or casting demons also consider this angels. they are God angels who are assigned for specific things and location and also gifted for setting areas and can be of help to you when you call on them just like jesus be positive and they will be there in a blink of an eye.. let me name few