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shervydman:What are you saying, do you want another one if you couldn't read the one I sent out of fear of the unknown?? OK I'll send you another one |
Markfemi2:Read what I wrote to you and leave Onitsha, once again ijebu is not yoruba oo we all know and Lagos is not yoruba land, from a reliable source.. |
shervydman:Why shoot yourself in the foot like this, aworis speak yorubalike language doesn't mean they are Yoruba's, just like the eguns don't want to be associated with Yoruba. Lagos is not Yoruba land and ijebus are immigrants who mixed up with Yoruba's, they are not really yoruba. Last last |
shervydman:I just showed you facts and you are still asking questions, are you on routine drugs or what |
Markfemi2:Lagos is not Yoruba land mor0n. Ijebus is not Yoruba I know what I'm saying now read your history: Coming from the palace, with what I was told by my late paternal grandmother who is a descendant of Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi. Also reading from factual Historical books. Let me share this Knowledge with you all on Eko/Lagos. Modern-day Lagos was founded by Prince Ado, the son of the Oba of Benin, Prince Ado was the First Oba of Lagos, the son of the Bini King, Prince Ado, named the town Eko until the Portuguese explorer Ruy de Sequeira changed the Maritime town to Lagos, which at that time from 1942 was Portuguese expedition center down the African Coast. It was a major centre of the slave trade until 1851. Lagos was annexed by Britain via the Lagos treaty of cession in 1861, ending the consular period and starting the British Colonial Period. The remainder of Modern-day Nigeria was seized in 1886 when the Colony and Protectorate of Nigeria were established in 1914 Lagos was declared its Capital due to the struggle of the Bini King. Lagos experienced growth pro to the British Colonial rule and even more rapid growth during the Colonial rule throughout the 1960s, 70s, continued through the 80s and 90s till date. Thanks to the Awori’s, Bini’s, Yoruba’s, migrants across the Nation and the world at large, as no particular group of people can take the Glory alone. Lagos is made up of Lagoons and creeks. The Lagos lagoon, Lagos Harbour, five known creeks. Ebute-Metta creeks, Porto-Novo creeks, New canal, Badagry creeks, Kuramo waters and Lighthouse creeks. The Awori’s and Bini’s are known to be the first settlers of the Eko Land. The Awori’s are speakers of a distinct dialect close to that of the Yoruba Language with a rich Bini mixture. Traditionally, Awori’s were found in Ile-Ife, they were known to be the Bini’s who followed their self-exiled Prince, the first son of the Ogiso (now called Oba) of the Benin Kingdom, whose Step-Mother was after his head. The Exiled Benin Prince Izoduwa known to the Yoruba’s as Ooduwa (Oduduwa) was made the ruler of the Ife people due to his Powers and followers from the Great Benin-Kingdom. Izoduwa (Ooduwa) was made the First King of Ile-Ife in 1230 AD. His followers from his father’s Kingdom in Benin are the today’s Awori people who settled in Eko now called Lagos. In 1300, the King of Benin-Empire heard from one of his traders who was a settler in Eko on how the Bini’s were treated by the Awori’s who lived in their area. Upon hearing this the King of Benin commanded the assembling of a War expedition, lead by his Son Prince Ado, which headed the settlement of the Awori’s and demanded and explanation. On arriving Eko, Prince Ado and his Army were more than received. The Awori’s asked the Bini Prince to stay and become their leader. Ado agreed on the condition that they surrender their sovereignty to the Oba of Benin, to which the people agreed. Hearing this, the King of Benin gave his permission for Prince Ado and the expedition to remain in Eko. The Oba of Benin sent some of his chiefs including the Eletu, Odibo, Obanikoro and others to assist his son Oba Ado in the running of Eko. From the crowning of Prince Ado as the First Oba of Lagos (then called Eko) Lagos served as a major center for slave trade from which the Awori’s, the Oba of Benin and his son the Oba of Lagos and all the children/descendants who took over as his successors for over four centuries supported the trade. The Oba of Benin was head of the Benin-Empire which are present day Western, Southern and Eastern modern- day Nigeria. The King never obliged anyone to speak the Bini language as he believed everyone was entitled to their own choice of language. The name Eko was given to it by the First King of Lagos Oba Ado, the young and vibrant Prince from Benin. Eko was the Land now known as Lagos Island, where the king Palace was built. The palace is called IDUNGARAN meaning “palace built on pepper farm” Oba Ado and the Warriors from Benin together with the early Bini’s settlers in Eko and the Awori people settled in the Southern part of Eko called “Isale Eko”. “Isale literally means bottom “. Must have been used to indicate downtown (as in downtown Lagos) Until the coming in of the Benin’s 1300AD, Lagos geographical boundary was Lagos mainland, Lagos Island, the seat of the Oba of Lagos then consisted of a pepper farm and fishing post. No one was living there. About 1450 AD some Yoruba’s who hailed from Isheri in Ogun-State and Ekiti were allowed by the King to settle in Eko during a war, they came in very large numbers thereby surpassing the numbers of the Awori’s and Bini’s. (Hence Yorubas claim to own Eko due to their numbers). Oba Ado fell in love with a beautiful woman whose father was Awori and mother a daughter to one of the chiefs, they had two sons and also a daughter Erelu Kuti, who begat Ologun Kutere who later became King. Oba Akintoye descendant of Prince Ado whose mother was the First Queen from Awori ascended the throne as Oba of Lagos in 1841, he attempted to ban slave trade with the help of the British, but the local merchant, the Aworis, Binis and a few Yorubas who was already integrated and married to Aworis and Binis strongly opposed the intended move and deposed and exiled the King and installed Akintoye’s brother Kosoko as Oba. In exile in Europe, Akintoye met with British authorities who had earlier banned slavery in 1807 and the British decided to support the deposed Oba to regain his throne. With the success of the British intervention in 1851, Akintoye was reinstalled as Oba of Lagos. In practical terms, however, the British influence over the Benin Empire had become absolute, then years later in 1861 Lagos was formally annexed as a British colony. This led to the fight of the British and the Bini King, the leader of the Benin empire for years, which finally led to the fall of the empire and the capturing of Oba Ovonramwen. Oba Akintoye of Lagos was the first Oba not to be buried in Benin. Prior to this all the kings of Lagos were buried in Benin. They passed on taxes to the Oba of Benin until the British settled in Lagos. Until today, the Oba of Lagos is the head of all the Obas in Lagos because the Binis believe that whatever they or their offsprings are they are senior.The status of the Oba of Lagos is different from other Obas most of whom were given back their crowns and staff of office only within 40 years ago. Those who got their lands back was the original land owners, and they were mostly descendants of Prince Ado and other children of Olofin. |
shervydman:You are a lunatic who wants to be heard by all means and yet you cant make any meaningful sense. Lagos is not a Yorubaland you slowpoke. Now read this below and know your history: Coming from the palace, with what I was told by my late paternal grandmother who is a descendant of Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi. Also reading from factual Historical books. Let me share this Knowledge with you all on Eko/Lagos. Modern-day Lagos was founded by Prince Ado, the son of the Oba of Benin, Prince Ado was the First Oba of Lagos, the son of the Bini King, Prince Ado, named the town Eko until the Portuguese explorer Ruy de Sequeira changed the Maritime town to Lagos, which at that time from 1942 was Portuguese expedition center down the African Coast. It was a major centre of the slave trade until 1851. Lagos was annexed by Britain via the Lagos treaty of cession in 1861, ending the consular period and starting the British Colonial Period. The remainder of Modern-day Nigeria was seized in 1886 when the Colony and Protectorate of Nigeria were established in 1914 Lagos was declared its Capital due to the struggle of the Bini King. Lagos experienced growth pro to the British Colonial rule and even more rapid growth during the Colonial rule throughout the 1960s, 70s, continued through the 80s and 90s till date. Thanks to the Awori’s, Bini’s, Yoruba’s, migrants across the Nation and the world at large, as no particular group of people can take the Glory alone. Lagos is made up of Lagoons and creeks. The Lagos lagoon, Lagos Harbour, five known creeks. Ebute-Metta creeks, Porto-Novo creeks, New canal, Badagry creeks, Kuramo waters and Lighthouse creeks. The Awori’s and Bini’s are known to be the first settlers of the Eko Land. The Awori’s are speakers of a distinct dialect close to that of the Yoruba Language with a rich Bini mixture. Traditionally, Awori’s were found in Ile-Ife, they were known to be the Bini’s who followed their self-exiled Prince, the first son of the Ogiso (now called Oba) of the Benin Kingdom, whose Step-Mother was after his head. The Exiled Benin Prince Izoduwa known to the Yoruba’s as Ooduwa (Oduduwa) was made the ruler of the Ife people due to his Powers and followers from the Great Benin-Kingdom. Izoduwa (Ooduwa) was made the First King of Ile-Ife in 1230 AD. His followers from his father’s Kingdom in Benin are the today’s Awori people who settled in Eko now called Lagos. In 1300, the King of Benin-Empire heard from one of his traders who was a settler in Eko on how the Bini’s were treated by the Awori’s who lived in their area. Upon hearing this the King of Benin commanded the assembling of a War expedition, lead by his Son Prince Ado, which headed the settlement of the Awori’s and demanded and explanation. On arriving Eko, Prince Ado and his Army were more than received. The Awori’s asked the Bini Prince to stay and become their leader. Ado agreed on the condition that they surrender their sovereignty to the Oba of Benin, to which the people agreed. Hearing this, the King of Benin gave his permission for Prince Ado and the expedition to remain in Eko. The Oba of Benin sent some of his chiefs including the Eletu, Odibo, Obanikoro and others to assist his son Oba Ado in the running of Eko. From the crowning of Prince Ado as the First Oba of Lagos (then called Eko) Lagos served as a major center for slave trade from which the Awori’s, the Oba of Benin and his son the Oba of Lagos and all the children/descendants who took over as his successors for over four centuries supported the trade. The Oba of Benin was head of the Benin-Empire which are present day Western, Southern and Eastern modern- day Nigeria. The King never obliged anyone to speak the Bini language as he believed everyone was entitled to their own choice of language. The name Eko was given to it by the First King of Lagos Oba Ado, the young and vibrant Prince from Benin. Eko was the Land now known as Lagos Island, where the king Palace was built. The palace is called IDUNGARAN meaning “palace built on pepper farm” Oba Ado and the Warriors from Benin together with the early Bini’s settlers in Eko and the Awori people settled in the Southern part of Eko called “Isale Eko”. “Isale literally means bottom “. Must have been used to indicate downtown (as in downtown Lagos) Until the coming in of the Benin’s 1300AD, Lagos geographical boundary was Lagos mainland, Lagos Island, the seat of the Oba of Lagos then consisted of a pepper farm and fishing post. No one was living there. About 1450 AD some Yoruba’s who hailed from Isheri in Ogun-State and Ekiti were allowed by the King to settle in Eko during a war, they came in very large numbers thereby surpassing the numbers of the Awori’s and Bini’s. (Hence Yorubas claim to own Eko due to their numbers). Oba Ado fell in love with a beautiful woman whose father was Awori and mother a daughter to one of the chiefs, they had two sons and also a daughter Erelu Kuti, who begat Ologun Kutere who later became King. Oba Akintoye descendant of Prince Ado whose mother was the First Queen from Awori ascended the throne as Oba of Lagos in 1841, he attempted to ban slave trade with the help of the British, but the local merchant, the Aworis, Binis and a few Yorubas who was already integrated and married to Aworis and Binis strongly opposed the intended move and deposed and exiled the King and installed Akintoye’s brother Kosoko as Oba. In exile in Europe, Akintoye met with British authorities who had earlier banned slavery in 1807 and the British decided to support the deposed Oba to regain his throne. With the success of the British intervention in 1851, Akintoye was reinstalled as Oba of Lagos. In practical terms, however, the British influence over the Benin Empire had become absolute, then years later in 1861 Lagos was formally annexed as a British colony. This led to the fight of the British and the Bini King, the leader of the Benin empire for years, which finally led to the fall of the empire and the capturing of Oba Ovonramwen. Oba Akintoye of Lagos was the first Oba not to be buried in Benin. Prior to this all the kings of Lagos were buried in Benin. They passed on taxes to the Oba of Benin until the British settled in Lagos. Until today, the Oba of Lagos is the head of all the Obas in Lagos because the Binis believe that whatever they or their offsprings are they are senior.The status of the Oba of Lagos is different from other Obas most of whom were given back their crowns and staff of office only within 40 years ago. Those who got their lands back was the original land owners, and they were mostly descendants of Prince Ado and other children of Olofin. |
Markfemi2:Is Lagos Yoruba? Is ijebu Yoruba? |
deomelo:Buhari it shall never be well with you for this recession that has reset so many brains. I asked you show me Yoruba achievements, I agree we steal other people's achievements please show me yours i want to glance through them if you are brave enough |
Someone said agbor is not Igbo, this must be a daydream |
deomelo:You that don't steal please tell me what Yorubas have, i'm curious. I mean "you that don't steal" oo! |
laudate:Going back to the first comment you made, calling what I said about ijebus clownish yet you refer the same comment to Yorubas for answers shows a lot what you are, ignorant and foolish. I choose my words to you carefully and it's for your own good not to spite you. You are not making good use of your brain if at all after reading all I've said to you and my candid advice you still derail then you are beyond help to be frank and I am done talking to children who boast in emptiness, they are the worst piece of work. I stop here. |
laudate:Well i think this is the last time I'm going to take you serious on this matter from now cos I gave you time to redeem yourself and you made a mess of it. First you were calling me names when i said what i said without any tangible effort to debunk it with substantial proof. This is a public forum yes but you are only allowed to read what others write, ask question and learn if the topic is not related to you or you dont have a clue of what is being said, that's the way reasonable people behave knowing it would be very silly and a mess for you to start making a move of the knowlegible yet you are most ignorant, that would be a show of shame. I would advice you to always think before you talk or engage someone in a debate cos from what i've seen you are still a kid and very much empty.. |
laudate:Then what do you mean by admit your ignorance and move on? how am I even sure you are normal or you enjoy showing off your age bracket when opportunity calls by displaying your kindergarten jokes, i guess that's what gets you h0rny. If you are not Yoruba why then did you interfere you should have allowed them to answer me and not you cos in this situation you are an empty barrel indeed, no hard feelings just the obvious |
laudate:You can spew your kindergarten jokes for all I care.. Ijebu is not Yoruba and that they did not tell you so does not take away its truism, I thought you went to call your village heads to give me befitting answer Yoruba coward, let people who are well read engage me and tell me I'm lying let me expose them not empty barrel like you. |
laudate:Expected from a typical Yoruba chameleon. Again ijebus are not Yoruba go and ask your father your history if he know he will tell you OK. Its not only ijebus there is another set of people in the west too that are not Yoruba, even oduduwa is not a father of all the western states but he is called father of yorubaland. You may deny it as usual it's what you do best but historians know what I'm saying. You may deceive some people some of the time but you cannot deceive the people all the time. Once again call upon your Yoruba people who know better cos its obvious you are empty let them prove it wrong. Till then I'm waiting.. ![]() |
Ofemannnu:Abeg show me what THESE yoruba investments that you posted are cos I can't see them or are you talking of drawings on T-shirt like someone pointed out. You people are too quick to say agbor is not Igbo but is ijebu Yoruba? Abeg shift we know what is going on in the west, not all of you are Yoruba's, its not just pronounced cos your land have no oil if not if would have been the demarcating factor long ago. We know! ![]() |
ivolt:[/s]. And who are you if not afonja amala eater and tuwo ass licker. Bastards let the war begin, we dey kamkpe. Biafrans don't bow to our enemies take it or leave it.. |
temiflex01:I don't think you understand the igbos very well that is why you and your lots are using same line ' nnamdi KANU started it so he is getting the hate back' bla bla bla. We are not afraid of whatever song they are singing in fact you are the ones who try to make us feel afraid by your sycophant sentiments you are generating here, for all I care let the worst happen we are ready for them, just let it be civilian vs civilian let the Hausa army stay out of this and watch what will happen to your gods in the north. |
Elliot2:You deserve a bottle of beer.. Lol you cemented it |
psp2pc:Of course you are afonja. Obasonjo also fought against Biafra but Igbos voted for him in 1999 to be president so what are you talking about. Nnamdi KANU has been on Radio Biafra even while Jonathan was president, then he was telling Jonathan to use his office to divide the country in peace and that he Jonathan can come home and become Biafra's president if he wants but he never listened and was busy pleasing you guys but what happened as usual you taught him a bitter betrayal lesson of his life. I just pray the remaining parts of SS who have not yet joined the movement will wake up, if oil is the problem we have oil also yet we don't depend on it cos we believe in hard work that's why we travel a lot. This call is for people who are well travelled and know that Nigeria is not in anyway headed in the right direction and come together to speed up development in our own place for our children, if we miss it now our children will grow to face more penury. Good Yorubas can also join cos they are also well travelled as well. |
At the end of the day Biafra will come whether by blood or by peace. I want my children and children's children to have a place like Biafra they can call home and not to live like I live in now in Nigeria, a place without unity. |
obidigbomma: |
#nogoingbackonBiafra |
bounasera:Why not allow them to wallow in their stupidity, what's your concern, why dont you also move to Togo where your people like Emmanuel adebayo come from. |
emmy4life02:Chai sorry i apologise for mentioning you in the first place, I dont want to be contaminated with stu.pidiy. |
Organs:Well I must say you've got things mixed up here. First of all you claim fashola developed Lagos which is laughable to say the least. However on the other hand I am not in doubt of the Hausa sincerity cos even the Igbo man prefers doing business with Hausa man to any other tribe in Nigeria especially the Yoruba, but to say they are more brave than the Igbo's sighting the comment of Gowon to ojukwu as example is just childish ignorance both from you and Gowon himself. Ojukwu fought an unprepared war because of the inevitability, with his personal resources he fought the war even when he had the singular privilege of commanding the whole easterners to contribute all the money needed for the war, yet Gowon had the backing of not only the North but the entire country plus the British and you say he was more brave than Ojukwu because ojukwu escaped? If you must know in war the head is always the main target as it is said strike the Shepherd and the sheep will scatter, this is war strategy to weaken your opponent and keep them in the dark, Ojukwu understood this including the rest of the people that was why he had to escape which is normal and it happens everywhere even the Islam most dreaded terror organisations whose leaders hide in caves when the heat is too much on them and still issue commands and the people follow, if these muslims are in your bravery classification why do they hide?, if Hausa owned bokoharam is that brave why hide in forests? you tell me... On the other hand I must admit the one point you've been hitting on over and over about Igbo's insincerity, but it might also interest you to know that the Yoruba's have taken it over which is a well known fact right now. An Edo friend of mine told me that despite the short coming of an Igbo man he still would rather live in the same house with an Igbo man than a Yoruba man, this I was told by your half brothers 'Edo'. He went on to tell me what he had experienced living with a Yoruba man abroad, that they are back stabbers, double faced and chronic betrayers. We the igbos clearly take our stand in whatever we believe just like the Hausas do even if its to our disadvantage which is highly commendable but not the yorubas, which states the reason you have constantly tried to separate the Igbos and the SS, i'm not saying there are no people from SS who are against Biafra which is why a referendum is necessary at this point so they can clearly state where they belong cos the choice is theirs to make. We are not after anyone's oil just as we have made more progress without the oil money both as individuals and as a people although we also have oil. So my brother you see why we are bent on this Biafra which is not a clamour by illiterates as you stated but for all people both educated and non educated, skilled and unskilled. For all Biafrans!. |
Organs:Well I must say you've got things mixed up here. First of all you claim fashola developed Lagos which is laughable to say the least. However on the other hand I am not in doubt of the Hausa sincerity cos even the Igbo man prefers doing business with Hausa man to any other tribe in Nigeria especially the Yoruba, but to say they are more brave than the Igbo's sighting the comment of Gowon to ojukwu as example is just childish ignorance both from you and Gowon himself. Ojukwu fought an unprepared war because of the inevitability, with his personal resources he fought the war even when he had the singular privilege of commanding the whole easterners to contribute all the money needed for the war, yet Gowon had the backing of not only the North but the entire country plus the British and you say he was more brave than Ojukwu because ojukwu escaped? If you must know in war the head is always the main target as it is said strike the Shepherd and the sheep will scatter, this is war strategy to weaken your opponent and keep them in the dark, Ojukwu understood this including the rest of the people that was why he had to escape which is normal and it happens everywhere even the Islam most dreaded terror organisations whose leaders hide in caves when the heat is too much on them and still issue commands and the people follow, if these muslims are in your bravery classification why do they hide?, if Hausa owned bokoharam is that brave why hide in forests? you tell me... On the other hand I must admit the one point you've been hitting on over and over about Igbo's insincerity, but it might also interest you to know that the Yoruba's have taken it over which is a well known fact right now. An Edo friend of mine told me that despite the short coming of an Igbo man he still would rather live in the same house with an Igbo man than a Yoruba man, this I was told by your half brothers 'Edo'. He went on to tell me what he had experienced living with a Yoruba man abroad, that they are back stabbers, double faced and chronic betrayers. We the igbos clearly take our stand in whatever we believe just like the Hausas do even if its to our disadvantage which is highly commendable but not the yorubas, which states the reason you have constantly tried to separate the Igbos and the SS, i'm not saying there are no people from SS who are against Biafra which is why a referendum is necessary at this point so they can clearly state where they belong cos the choice is theirs to make. We are not after anyone's oil just as we have made more progress without the oil money both as individuals and as a people although we also have oil. So my brother you see why we are bent on this Biafra which is not a clamour by illiterates as you stated but for all people both educated and non educated, skilled and unskilled. For all Biafrans!. |
Shroud:Let us be the judge over that |
DrGoodmanFather:Lol I'm sorry for you, I know you are yourba feeling funky about what's happening, anyway this is the more reason for a referendum cos we don't reason alike and if you think north is going to fight your fight to keep us in Nigeria you have failed and your failure will be made more visible after our exit cos then you will know what their dominance will turn to into. |
chy200:Make we dey look what exactly? |
mexite:We are not asking anyone to join our agitation whether its called Igbo thing or not we will move on, in fact we will be doing the so-called SS a favour by taking them along cos with us they will have a sence of belonging and this issue of robbing peter to pay Paul that they have been victims of for a long time will pass away because they will be the ones to control their own resources as its done in developed nations. |

Anyone can see here that you are a kid, that has been poorly trained. And that is why you keep reaching into the gutter to use words like, "silly, mess etc." It just shows how empty you are. Let me remind you that you were the first person to use the words empty barrel, on this thread. Is that not an insult? I have said it before, you are ignorant. You are the one that has no clue. And it sticks out like a mile, from your choice of language and the way you express yourself.
Go back to school.
The problem with you and your ilk on this board, is that your brains have been configured to a default setting, to think that anyone who disagrees with you, or does not share your perspective is Yoruba. 
