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tesppidd:
SMH
Squad looks so thin.

You're complaining.
Koeman might shock you with something else. Maybe worse.

Barcelona possible starting lineup:

Neto; Dest, Pique, Lenglet, Alba; Pjanic, De Jong; Trincao, Messi, Pedri; Griezmann

Dest is 20 today!


Ter Stegen is fit enough to receive the medical green light. Koeman will decide if he plays against Kyiv. [sport]

Before you start typing and insulting Nigeria, i want you to know that the kidnapping was actually in Niger not Nigeria.

pu7pl3:
Bro, I've been silent on this issue but if I may ask...why does someone who as you claim now lacks interest in goal scoring has the highest number of shots with most of hem being unsuccessful hence his inability to score from open play?

Bro honestly, let this issue go.

we've talked about this all day and nothing good came out. Just lengthy arguments flying left and right.

whatever I say now won't change anything.

We shouldn't spend all our precious time arguing on someone who's earning big without cognizance of who's criticizing him or not.
If he starts scoring, great! if he doesn't, no wahala. As long as he's playing well and helping the team, no problem.

Go get some rest!

tesppidd:


That one just graduate from Mumu academy.

He tried to come out smart but ended up doing a stupidity commercial.

tesppidd:


That one just graduate from Mumu academy.

He tried to come out smart but ended up doing a stupidity commercial.

Honestly, I'm tired. The level of unreasonableness on this thread is alarming.

When you try ways to let them see their criticism hold no water, they either misquote you or interpret your message wrongly and say your talking out of point.

joviegghead:
"Obviously I like scoring, and If have a chance I'll take it, but every time I go on to the pitch I'm less focused on scoring goals and more focused on the game. I've never been obsessed with goals.

"I understand that people will talk about it when I stop scoring so many, but that's part of the game, part of growing as a player and adapting to the times, to be the best player both for yourself and for the team."
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Some people still don't understand English.

Kendzyma:
...

Not interested in scoring goals?..yet he leads in shot per game in the league?.

I wrote "decreasing interest in scoring goals".

You came and said" not interested in scoring goals".


Christ!

Messi isn't paying me a dime.

Are you concerned about Messi not scoring goals like he should? Read his words:

"Obviously I like scoring, and If have a chance I'll take it, but every time I go on to the pitch I'm less focused on scoring goals and more focused on the game. I've never been obsessed with goals.

"I understand that people will talk about it when I stop scoring so many, but that's part of the game, part of growing as a player and adapting to the times, to be the best player both for yourself and for the team."

Cheers!

Godx, Kimbeast and others, this are the words of Messi.
If my Playmaking argument and "other attackers' being poor and need to step up" didn't sink deep, this should.

Also Kimbeast, Messi's lack of scoring goals can be attributed to his decreasing interest in goal scoring.
This is something he even stated. He's more concerned about creating for others. This is something I pointed out. Yet you and your cohorts didn't see it.

Kimbeast:
Honestly after reading the entire interactions your replies have been weak. You keep bringing unrelated subjects and diverting from the main context of the discussion which is typical Nairaland style of Amala turning. Godx is talking about Messi inability to score from open play which you have not addressed or said anything about.

My dear Kimbeast, read again.

My problem is not criticising Messi. Its the exemption of other attackers' poor form with silly excuses and then singling out Messi as the black sheep. Even if you wanna criticize his poor form in front of goal, you can't be blind to see his other contributions to the team. Hence, he deserves excuses than others.
Sadly you too missed the point. We move!

tesppidd:
Noteworthy that he's made 4 Assists alone this season.

Dembele+Coutinho+Griezman+Fati has made 5.

Let's not even talk about chances(created) he has singlehandedly served others.

tesppidd:
Let's look back at Xavi and Iniesta when they were playing.

There is nothing that Xavi and Iniesta did back then that Messi isn't doing in midfield today.?

Do you know that Xavi and Iniesta sometimes went 10 games without a single goal?

But they were revered for their creative plays.


When can't Messi be revered for his creative plays even if he isn't scoring?

Is it because he has so spoilt us with creating massively as well as scoring massively?

FFS this guy made 25 Goals and 20 Assists just last season!

My dear Tessppid,

He must score 40 goals a season. He must be the the chief scorer and chief creator simultaneously.

If not, he's our worst player, or so they claim .

This reverting to Playmaking role was what I have been trying to let one guy see.
But no, according to him, all other attackers are free from blame, while our dear Messi must be given sticks for not scoring enough, in addition to his Playmaking.

tesppidd:
This is la liga 2020/21 player performance ratings.

How do you criticize this and sleep well at night with your conscience intact?

Tesppidd forget all these jor.

He hasn't scored from open play for quite some time. Therefore he's our worst attacker, he's lazy and should be benched

tesppidd:
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Terrible player!

tesppidd:
Why are you talking about the whole of 2020?

You better talk about the last 20 games;

Don't you know Messi has not scored from open play in the last 20 games?

That's true o.

But they said he is our worst attacker since January. This stats confirms it.

Leo Messi


Stats in 2020

36 games

20 goals

18 opta assists

199 completed dribbles

1860 accurate passes

100 chances created

26 big chances created

21 tackles

101 times fouled

This is player I've been Defending. Yet, someone says he's the worst out of all our attackers and does a twisted argument recap.

All efforts to help him see the light failed. Fellow fans is it my fault?

I dare any critic to bring out stats on any attacker or player at Barça who has done what this guy has done.

I'll be waiting.

tesppidd:
Just look at the bolded.

Is this the criticism that I am always accused of being intolerant of?

I'm starting to learn to just ignore. You should too.

These people will drag you to their level and beat you with experience. Just ignore.

The argument I've had with someone here recently showed it's a waste of time replying critics. That was the last f*ck I gave. Ain't a f*ck anymore.

They're blind to everything except their criticism. And they'll twist things to make it seem like they're wise.

Nah.

tesppidd:
This here shows the detailed performance ratings so far this season from whoscored.com

The first is for the champions league.

The second is for la liga.


But here we are that after 2 match days he's got the best all round performance in The Champions League.

After 6 match days he has the second best performance in La Liga.


Then we have some never do well busy bodies constituting nuisance all over the place.

They don't know how to praise, all they know is how to criticize.

All they see is how many times he was dispossesed.

Then they see how he has not scored from open play.

Thanks for this.

I still can't wrap my head around the motive behind these criticisms.

From 'messi is lazy' to 'messi hasn't scored in open play' to 'messi is should be benched'.

Its a pity. Been the GOAT is truly a heavy status with heavy responsibilities.

SonOfAfonja:
That’s not the point I’m trying to make, he needs to leave so the retards blaming him for Barca’s misfortune can face the team and not pick on a player...

Aswear.

Godx:
I didn't even understand what you typing anymore. This guy you will say A, somebody will reply your A then you will jump to Z then W and end at M. What you have written now how does it relate to your initial post that started this discussion in the first place which was about our "Attackers being poor at finishing"

See this mumu o.
Dumbass!
I was defending messi who you singled out.

Our 'attackers being poor' argument at finishing has been settled .Obviously you didn't see that cuz your brain responds only to faulting messi. You can check my previous comment.

Biko, you should be ignored from now. No one here deserves to have his intelligence reduced through some interactions with illogical critics on this forum.

Farewell.

Godx:
*Illogical argument*

You mean Messi finding it difficult to score from open play since January is illogical and not worthy to be talked about? From covid-19 la liga restart till today he has only scored 3goals from open play out of 17matches
Or, scored on 2 matches in the last 17 La liga matches from an open play. I will keep shut from henceforth and when we get disgraced again by another big team then you shift the blame to the coach as usual.

So messi should be blamed for our dry spell in terms of goalscoring.

Funny thing is messi has said it plainly that he's focused on creating chances and helping the team. And if possibly he do his best to still keep scoring.

That statement shows a selfless outlook. If messi had scored 90% of our goals.
Someone like you will still come online and say he loves hugging all glory and pushes other attackers into second frame.
Another thing is he knows barca is deficient in the creative department. No one can be trusted to create consistently.

Our goals this season , Messi has had a role on most of them. This is undisputable.

Yet all you see is 'he hasn't scored from open play'.

Oga Criticizer, continue. Even football pundits have constantly lauded messi who drops back and still make things happen. He's everywhere. Griezmann we praise for work rate, what has he done? 1 goal!

TLona1:
Messi had a goal and assist against Juve last week, they kept mute.

They had to wait for him to have a bad game yesterday to come out of their shells, telling us he's this and that.

My God will soon shame all of you.. Especially that SatanX

SatanX!!!

Dead

They are so annoying. Will be bringing up illogical arguments as if they were born criticize Messi. Mehn,...

Techiekingee:
How I wish this was a WhatsApp group....Na to just kick out most of these Messi haters.....no joy

Straight up.

No time. Yeye people

SonOfAfonja:
If Messi decides to stay in Barca then he must be the most stupid person ever.

Man City awaits you...

As in ehn

GrammarNazi1:
If our defender, like Lenglet, makes us lose a match just like he did against Real Madrid, it must be Messi's sole fault.

If other attackers cannot step up when Messi is down, it must also be Messi's fault.

If Messi assists the goals of others, then Messi is poor for not scoring himself.

Can you now see why Messi must leave?

If Koeman plays the wrong players, it has to be Messi's fault

Godx:
You haven't actually wrote anything that countered what I wrote in my post.

You still can't decipher what I just wrote?!
Okay I'll spell it.

Your excuses for other attackers doesn't make sense. You claim Griezmann's hasn't had playing time? Nah! Check again. Fam, has played and has had barca's best scoring chances. Guess what?! He missed 98% of them.

You claim Trincao have shipped in few goals! Nah! He hasn't even dropped an assist(I think). Pedri, just 1 or 2. Coutinho, let's not talk about that one.

You defended Dembele. Yes, he hasn't played much but the boy's decision-making can be terrible like in Turin.

You claim Messi has taken over 70% of the teams shot and he hasn't scored. This is the same guy that drops deep to create chances and makes things happen. What about the other attackers playing? Your stat simply highlights the bluntness and one-sided nature of barca attack with only Messi aiming shots while the rest of the team(including other attackers) can boast of less than 30% shot.

Doesn't that sound like our attackers need to start stepping up? Yet you single out Messi as the only faulty attacker not scoring from open play.

tesppidd:
Don't sweat it, this team will do well.

My only fear and worry is the health of Coutinho and Dembele.

Let them stay injury free, this team will do well.

Yea!

It's still early to start over criticizing or judging. The team has got it! Still yet to tick, but it'll happen.

tesppidd:
Funny lots masquerading as Barca fans.

They don't talk about how much possesion he has in 90 minutes, they prefer to talk about how much possesion he loses.

They don't talk about how many passes he makes, but how many passes he loses.

Negativity is opportunistic, it's cawordice.

Like i said before I like this team I see.

It's a new team and in transition;
New President, New manager, At least 5 new young players.

Played 8 matches.

Won 4 matches.
Drew 2 matches.
Lost 2 matches.

Not too bad, you guys should stop nagging and giving these bloody trolls a field day here.

Tessppid,

I know, you really don't like it when Messi gets criticised.
These criticisms might be easily trumped by Messi's other outputs such as his work rate like dropping deep to create chances and the likes.

It doesn't mean these criticisms are not true or should be overlooked. Messi loses the ball, sometimes, a lot in matches. This is undebatable.
You might say it doesn't matter but for others, it's annoying.
Just an opinion.

Godx:
Griezmann barely get any game time talkless of chances to score so I don't understand how you can say he has poor with his finishing except from that one chance against Getafe i think. Fati has been brilliant in front of goal this season. Dembele is in the same boat as Griezmann. Trincao and pedri have shipped in with few goals this season as well. The only attacker who has been piss poor when it comes to finishing is Messi and he has been poor in that aspect since January but when I mentioned it I am a fake fan and a hater. He has taken almost 70% of all our shots this season more than all our other attackers combined but can't still score from open play.

Griezmann barely gets any game? Same Griezmann that was starting games and we all were complaining?
Trincao and Pedri have shipped in 'few goals'? Really? Okay, how many?
Okay just forget it. You just wanna attack Messi. You claim Messi has taken 70% percent? And the other attackers? So he's the only attacker in the team aye? . Isn't it shameful you still can't decipher that if one person is taking practically a huge chunk of the team's shots it speaks volumes of the inefficiency of other attacker when it comes hunger for shooting or troubling keepers at least.

But never mind. I always know you to be a Messi critic.
But wait, you're really saying Messi is the only poor finisher? Really?