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Please house kindly recommend any bank that has met CBN requirement and is also a good bank to do tbill for the next primary market action. I need a bank I can get attractive interest rate. First bank is just not it as they have a way of giving 2% below cut-off rate |
PropTrader:In December 2025 they got another shareholder approval to raise 400 billion hence the apprehension if they can meet up with the deadline. If no positive news by last week of this month I am porting from fcmb till they sort out the can capital requirements issue. |
Any chance FCMB will meet capitalisation requirement before deadline or should one pull out their savings now before they go under? Surprised they're still struggling to meet up even when fidelity has achieved the goal |
Agbalowomeri:I would appreciate more clarity sir. I have tried to research but all results I'm getting is saying cgt will be paid based on acquisition cost and sales value which is confusing. I have gone through the tax act but what is written there talks about item denominated in foreign currency which doesn't apply here. I don't want to take decision only to later have issue with the tax people |
Please members of the house help me clarify. Assume I have $1500 in dorm account and it's been there for some years. Now I want to convert it to Naira to buy stocks or invest in bonds or treasury bills. If I convert it, will I have to pay capital gains tax? Also, this $$$ wasn't bought with Naira. Some came from freelance and others through gift from clients. If I'm to pay CGT, how do I determine what exchange rate to use etc? I'm wondering if the Naira that will be paid for the dollars will be treated as income hence the taxing. Mind you, I have been investing in USD fixed deposit for some years and they charge witholding tax normal. Please help out thanks. |
Please house help me clarify. Assume I have $1500 in dorm account and it's been there for some years. Now I want to convert it to Naira to buy stocks or invest in bonds or treasury bills. If I convert it, will I have to pay capital gains tax? Also, this $$$ wasn't bought with Naira. Some came from freelance and others through gift from clients. If I'm to pay CGT, how do I determine what exchange rate to use etc? I'm wondering if the Naira that will be paid for the dollars will be treated as income hence the taxing. Mind you, I have been investing in USD fixed deposit for some years and they charge witholding tax normal. Please help out thanks. |
Engineerfavour:I can buy it for 60% = ₦120,000 |
2,100,000 bid is available |
chimex38:I'm responding to you because you have elucidated your points to some extent, unlike some here who comment like they have either sold their souls to the devil or never attended the four walls of a good university. All your points in defence of Dangote are weak and engulfed in same strategy the rich and mighty of third nations and even first nations use to keep the working class perpetually poor. Everything I have written is in defence of working class Nigerians. They had the option to take up arms and go into kidnapping and other crimes but they did not. They give their 50-70 hours working every week, but what do they get in return? Peanuts and working conditions that make them look like fools compared to those who can simply buy machetes with less than ₦10,000 and earn much more than honest hard-working Nigerians through terror. Dangote is telling Nigerians that he pays his drivers ₦240,000 ($180) per month, his laptop boys are amplifying it and uninformed Nigerians are clapping for them. How much does Dangote products costs compared to same products produced in Canada, USA, China, Libya and other countries? How much is Dangote fuel and Dangote cement in Nigeria versus similar products in other countries? How much do those drivers and workers in Canada, USA, China, and Iran earn compared to the price of the products of the companies they work in? Dangote is charging international price for his products in Nigeria. Dangote speedily increased price of his cement by over 200%, citing naira devaluation, etc. But how much is he paying his workers? Did he increase his workers salaries by same percentage? No! He is topping Forbes billionaires list but majority of his workers are topping the list of those living in peanury and customers of Bet9ja and Sportybet. Before Dangote refinery and after full subsidy removal, fuel sold for less than ₦700. Dangote refinery came online and fuel is selling for ₦1000 across Nigeria. All his workers can no longer afford to buy fuel to run their generators. They are getting poorer and poorer by the day. Dangote claims to pay his drivers ₦280,000 monthly. Even though the amount is ridiculous compared to the value of the service those drivers provide, I can tell you for a fact that Dangote and his laptop boys are lying to Nigerians. I have interviewed hundreds of Dangote truck drivers. Non of them earn up to ₦100,000 as monthly salary. Even if you add the amount given to drivers as dispatch for each trip (which should cater for their hotel accommodation and feeding on each trip), they still don't get up to the amount Dangote is claiming to pay his drivers. Dangote should publish the pay slip of his drivers. Do you think drivers that are well paid and well rested will be all over Nigeria ending the lives of people due to reckless driving? Those drivers are not well paid. They're mostly illiterates who sleep in their trucks and stay alert on the wheels through consumption of Fearless and other hard drugs. Go out there and talk to Dangote drivers. They're all over Nigeria delivering cement and other Dangote products. It's no coincidence that Dangote truck accidents have been recorded every month in Nigeria over the past 15 years. That's the most shameful safety record of any company globally but laptop boys have been paid to defend and celebrate it in Nigeria. If I ever become president of Nigeria, I'll not allow Dangote or any company or business abuse the rights and privileges of Nigerian workers. They're the foundation of every thriving society. When they're unprotected and vulnerable to the whims and caprices of greedy capitalists aided by ill-gotten monopoly, the society will proceed on a free fall. Nigeria is on a free fall. I hope this helps you understand one reason why it is so. Shalom |
Mpeace:Done |
Mpeace:Have you worked in any Nigerian company? If yes, for how long? If you had the choice to continue working for the Nigerian company or travel to Canada to work in a similar role for the next ten years, which will you prefer and why? These are straightforward questions. If you quote me without answering them I'll block you cos I'll believe you are just another uninformed propaganda tool. |
It's worrisome seeing how Dangote has employed heärtlėss laptop boys to defend his actions all over social media. Before you take the word of any faceless person on the internet as truth and people centred, ask the person to mention how many years they have worked under any Nigerian employer and if they would continue such job for the next 10 years or prefer a work visa to Canada to go do the same job. Their response will reveal their agenda - propaganda agents for Dangote and other wicked capitalists who don't mind énslaving every Nigerian so long they keep topping or getting mentions on Forbes billionaires list |
chimex38:Have you ever worked in any big Nigerian company? If you have then you will not be selling this sort of false hope that workers there will start to feel no need to complain. Go out and find out from Nigerians working in Banks and other big FMCG companies. Despite these companies increasing the price of their products and services due to inflation and devaluation and raking in billions in profits, they have refused to increase the wages and salaries of their workers, majority of whom they place under contractors so they can avoid paying good wages, compensation and benefits. These workers cannot cry out because there's high unemployment and they can't join unions or they'll be sacked. So, many just manage the job and then use loans and other unethical means to augment their wages. Think of the policeman who extorts and collects bribe on the road. Think of First Registrars who don't have a functional phone number. I'm sure they're trying to cut cost and they've fired the customer service personnel who should handle such tasks. Think of the electricity worker who will collect bribe and help you bypass meters. All of this problem stems from being poorly paid and compemsated for whatever job you do. And the result on the overall economy is obvious. People with low purchasing power cannot patronise business at a scale that causes mass growth and development. Nigeria's textile industry has gone comatose because people can't afford to buy new clothes, not necessarily because they're expensive, but because their purchasing power is low relative to price of the clothes, despite the fact that they're working, sometimes 60-80 hours every week. It's only the oil sector workers that have been a bit insulated from this exploitative habit of Nigerian companies underpaying workers, using them as contract staff and preventing them from joining unions. Check Total, Chevron, Aradel and the likes. Majority of their employees are doing well. Even an Aradel security employee was buying stocks of the company not too long ago. Check AEDC, UBA, First Bank, Coca Cola, Dangote Cement and other big non oil companies. Majority of their workers are living from hand to mouth. Many of their workers are chronic debtors to loan apps and many others now place their hope on Bet9ja and Baba Ijebu. These are people who are genuinely working and truly deserve a good life. But they can't because the companies they work in want them to remain poor and controllable. Those who cannot stomach such conditions jejely arm up and take to real crime. That is why you're seeing an increasing trend in insecurity across Nigeria. Poverty and crime are always positively correlated and the foundation of such poverty is traceable to the situation Dangote is trying to achieve by preventing workers from unionising so that he can later turn them into contract staffs, keep their salaries stationary for years and easily stackable. No society progresses under such conditions. If Dangote gets his way, other companies will copy him and that will be the end of the Nigerian labour force. No Nigerian who is patriotic and understand the big picture and interconnectedness of all the situations I have described and more will support what Dangote is doing. Nigeria and the interest of all Nigerians should always be paramount. The Indians he'll hire to replace those workers will be paid at least $1500 per month. But he'll be happy to pay Nigerians $300 and claim that they're earning well. It just shows you how much he values Nigerians. |
So many egg heads on this thread are praising Dangote. It shows why Nigeria is this sick and lacking development. There's no single country that has developed where the working class has low purchasing power due to poor wages and poor working conditions. Unions are there to enforce the right of workers, especially in a capitalist environment fueled by greed and a corrupt, incompetent government. Nigeria is where it is today because 80% of the working class are underpaid and ill-treated - whether in the private sector or in the public sector. Don't let the greed of what you stand to gain by purchasing Dangote refinery shares make you turn a blind eye to the bad and greedy behaviour of the capitalist. Whatever you will gain, whatever wealth you will build, you won't have the security and peace to enjoy it in a society where majority of the working class is living from hand to mouth and engaging in unethical conducts to make ends meet. There's no hiding place for any of you. And I like the fact that the west is tightening its visa laws and making it harder for you to run there after supporting nonsense in your country. You will stay back here to enjoy the monster you all create because of greed and shortsightedness. You heard of the Arise TV lady whose life has been taken in the president's own FCT. Criminals like those who did this act are created because of the hopelessness created by greedy monopolists and capitalists who take advantage of the unemployment situation in a country to underpay workers and make them work under unfavorable conditions. There's no hiding place for anyone, innocent or not, if you continue to support a society fueled by greed and economic deprivation of majority. You won't enjoy your wealth in peace. You can not enjoy your wealth in peace in such environment. |
GeeKudi:Thanks for the update. But oando still a big red flag. If Tinubu losses in 2027, the stock is going to fall down to N20 per share. |
megawealth01:This oando you are hyping is like Union Bank and unity bank. OandO value is based on political patronage. God save the stock if Tinubu losses in 2027. Meanwhile the business seems to be declining in real life. Most of their filling stations around our location has been bought or rebranded to NNPC. I won't be surprised if the stock hovers around + or - 20% of its current value pending when Tinubu's chances in 2027 is certified |
Aradel surges in early morning trading. Highest volume and value ever traded on NGX since 2024 has just been recorded by Aradel - 41 million+ units at around ₦525 per share Current price - 530 Previous close - 511 |
handsomebolanle:The person who spent a billion at 12.5 already has assurance that he's getting at least 300% return on part of the 6 billion shady loan approved by the BOD at the EGM, so he can afford to set a support level at that price until the new 2 billion shares are issued to them at ₦3 |
SonofElElyonRet:How old are you? Why can't you make your points based on facts and common sense? Was ₦6 billion loan received and approved within 48 hours of EGM? Is the ₦6 billion loan to be converted to shares at ₦3 per share? What is the current price of Ellah Lakes? Is there incentive for those who will get nearly 2 billion Ellah Lakes shares to sell at current price? 2 billion Ellah Lakes shares is currently worth 28 billion+ You gave loan of ₦6 billion and in less than 3 months the loan value has grown to ₦28 billion. Why won't they sell and why won't they even borrow more money to prop up the price? NGX is corrupt and inefficient. Let them allow short selling of stocks and remove the cap on maximum percentage price movement of stocks daily. Ellah Lakes will drop to ₦5 today. |
egojeny1:ELLAH is being manipulated. Those who got loan approval of ₦6 billion to be converted to shares at ₦3 have recruited teams to keep buying the shares to ensure the price stays up until they're ready to sell. Stay away from Ellah Lakes if you don't want to get roasted. The price is going to crash massively once the shares gets into the hands of those who gave the company such loan under shady circumstances. |
crownprince2017:If you build a house, you'd hope for the price to appreciate (land and house). But in the meantime, you'll need rent to maintain the house and also do one or two things. If the rent isn't coming in then the house is useless. You're better off putting your money in a long term government bond where you get at least 17% annually. If you are a good business person or financially smart, you can deploy that funds into a venture that will get you at least 50% annually (above inflation rate). Stocks that don't pay good dividend are like houses that don't give you rent or money you put in a savings account in Nigeria. Inflation will wipe off the value of your money. God help you if the company is poorly managed and goes bankrupt. Your capital is gone. Good and consistent dividend paying stocks will ALWAYS appreciate in price over time. Stocks that don't pay dividend or pay poor dividend MAY appreciate. The wise person will go for ALWAYS. |
nex:There's nothing good about a company that pays a dividend of 1% when actual inflation and interest rate is close to 30%. If you didn't buy the stock when it's price was ₦2, avoid it. Downside risk is not a joke. |
ProphetUtuocha:Thank you for the information. Do you know which of the banks one can easily walk into or use their online platform to get commercial papers and the steps to follow? My cousin's account officer is frustrating her. |
awesomeJ:Thank you |
mikeapollo:Thank you |
mikeapollo:Thank you. |
Please house clarify these grey areas on commercial papers and money market funds if you have the experience. For commercial papers, is the interest rate quoted prorated? For example, if 21.15% is quoted for 270 days tenure, is the 21.15% indicated for one year interest rate, meaning to prorate it to 270 days you do 21.15%/365 * 270 = 15.64%? Meaning it is 15.64% that will be paid for the commercial paper of 270 days tenure? Or the 21.15% will be paid for the 270 days CP tenure? Also, are CPs subject to witholding tax? What other fees are charged on CPs? On money market funds, what are the fees charged and are they charged on the interest earned or charged on the total sum under management? For example, if you put ₦10 million in a money market fund and it earns 10% (1 million) in one year, will the fees be charged on the 1 million earned or the entire 11 million? If on the entire 11 million, what happens when the fund managers don't make any returns? Will they still continue to remove their management fees from your capital? |
Odunharry:Please clarify something about commercial papers and money market funds: For commercial papers, is the interest rate quoted prorated? For example, if 21.15% is quoted for 270 days tenure, is the 21.15% indicated for one year interest rate, meaning to prorate it to 270 days you do 21.15%/365 * 270 = 15.64%? Meaning it is 15.64% that will be paid for the commercial paper of 270 days tenure? Or the 21.15% will be paid for the 270 days CP tenure? Also, are CPs subject to witholding tax? What other fees are charged on CPs? On money market funds, what are the fees charged and are they charged on the interest earned or charged on the total sum under management? For example, if you put ₦10 million in a money market fund and it earns 10% (1 million) in one year, will the fees be charged on the 1 million earned or the entire 11 million? If on the entire 11 million, what happens when the fund managers don't make any returns? Will they still continue to remove their management fees from your capital? |
rakish:These conditions are easy for the company to fulfill being that this is Nigeria where anything goes. The company will offer to pay the highest price at the COM and they'll get the 70% to agree. They have seen that it is a lucrative sector and they want to go fully private so they can challenge Dangote and BUA without divulging their records to the public which is required to participate in NGX. I pray they succeed so they can get to work and focus on their business and crash price of cement. If government keeps on the path of constructing concrete roads, they'll partner with CCECC NL and make a ton of money that will flow back to their country like MTN is doing. If you have money, better start a good business now and keep detailed records so you can reap the rewards when time is right. |
Zee0007:The new owners are planning to go 100% private. They'll buy all shares then delist from NGX. |
bastardson:Do the maths yourself using dividend discount model. |

