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italo:
@jusmudi can u email me on talomeyadua@yahoo.com. cant access my nairaland email.

my broda u are 2ruli a born catholic. I ll email 2day wit mudijp@gmail.com

Barnabaseloka:
I am not fixed or stuck to my opinions. I go with the truth whenever and wherever it is spoken. What pisses me off is when someone lays claims to traditions and ideologies of men that contradict that which is written in the scriptures.

You are right. No one contests for position in heaven, yet every christian srives to enter heaven. The unbiased knowledge and truth of the scriptures help christians to run this race effectively.

When one chooses to go with traditions and doctrines of men that clearly contradict God's word, rather than the truth from the scriptures, they serve as stumbling blocks to the person.
For me, I choose to live by the word of God instead of joining multitudes in obeying teachings that contradict God's word!

Do U remember dis World " come let us reason together" my broda community of Blivers gives u hope of serving God, praying 4 u, nd joining hands in prayers because agreement prayer is very good

Barnabaseloka:
And what is this supposed to mean?

U said u dn't hv a particular church
Lik I said b4 sorry 4 d statement

Barnabaseloka:
Stop making a fuss over the issue of Mary being the mother of Jesus. If Mary still plays her motherly role today, then Joseph, unarguably, plays his fatherly role also. Where is the position of God, then? Anyway this is not to be discussed here.

Ecc.9:5 For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing. And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten.
6. Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished: Nevermore will they have a share in anything done under the sun.
10. Whatever your hands finds to do, do it with your might;, for there is no WORK, or DEVICE or KNOWLEDGE or WISDOM in the grave (world of the dead) where you are going.

Remeber that the martyred saints were 'asleep' until the fifth seal was broken making them cry out for vengence. After this, they went back to their state of rest, waiting for the day of resurrection.
How does this passge affirm that a saint who has gone into eternity prays for the saints who are still on earth?

The Scripture is not only about the words in it , but also about the right interpretation of the words. Come out from your doctrinal bigotry and accept the truth.

Note
U don contest for position in heaven because rewards individual according to the role u played while on earth
Bros 1 tin is dt is hard 2 change ur mentality.

Barnabaseloka:
I am not any church fan, and I feel sorry for you for being a religious bigot. I go with anyone who rightly interpretes God's word, and not b/c any church has it as a dogma or doctrine. You are too hardened to learn the truth from others b/c you have held on to a particular doctrine for so long. Concerning your questions, both of them are 'dead' or 'asleep' or at 'rest'.

Bros sorry for using this language read Rev 3:15-16 I knw ur deeds, dt u ar neither cold nr hot. I wish u were either! So because u are lukewarm- neither hot nr cold- I am abt 2 spit u out of my mouth

Barnabaseloka:
Thank you also. Know that even the angels cannot pray for the saints. They only carry the messages/prayers of the saints on earth to God, but never do the praying themselves. They act as messengers and not intercessors. There are only three people that intercede for the saints living on earth-
1. The saints living on earth do pray for their fellow saints on earth.
2. The Holy Spirit who helps the saints on earth to pray to God.
3. The Lord, Jesus Christ.

Jesus dn't intercede, he gives u wat u want
Bros if we continue, u ll nt accept my own reason/s nd I ll nt accept all bt we must learn nd am ready 2 learn if u can convince me

Barnabaseloka:
1. The prayers are from the saints on earth. No saint who has gone into eternity can intercede for the saints living on earth.
2. Was Paul writing to dead saints or to those still living on earth at that time? Read 1 Tim.2:5.
3. They did not pray for anyone on earth, but cried out for vengence for their death.
4. The saints in heaven are resting (sleeping) waiting for the resurrection day. It is obvious the joy is not done by the saints who are asleep. The angels do the rejoicing over one sinner that repents on earth.
5. I don't understand how the place you quoted relates to the topic discussed.

Bros read dt place again abt those rejoicing nd u ll understand it.
Secondly abt d saints praying, yes Dey prayed nd d Elders nd d living creatures took dia petitions 2 God
Thirdly mat 18:10 "reminding the pipo dat d angels in heaven always see d face of my father" intreceding
further more u mentioned abt I timothy 2:5 yes Jesus is d only mediator, yes He his because he is d only person who brought us closer to God
Finally I ll commend ur effort 4 Blivin dt dere is God, Angels, Mary, saints, Elders, nd four living creatures, I Bliv wit tim u ll accept dis
Thanks broda

luckyCO:
Christ did not establish any church(organization), he established The Way of life. People called that way of Life Christians, Catholics(Universal Spiritual Body of Christ-Mystic Body), Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Anglican, Methodist, Pentecostal etc.

You are a member of Christ body if you have been justified,sanctified by the blood and you have received the Holy Ghost.
It doesn't matter which church name you attend, you will soon know the truth as practiced by Apostolic fathers and prophets because you have received the Spirit of truth and you will soon start rejecting anything not in line teachings of Christ until you have become like Christ, Eph. 3:17, 4:13.

If you are a believer and you see one on your way, the spirit in you bears witness that you are of same family and that is the Church Christ established.

The religious argument we made here is because we dont have same spirit or not matured enough, if we have received the spirit of truth the same thing the member of RCC(Who have received the Spirit of Truth) believe will also be what the Lutheran, Anglican, Methodist, pentecostal believe because they are of same Spirit and they are not under church title they belong but have sold their life to God and you see they will soon be under persecution by those Churches the belong if the head/ministers of the Church have not received same Spirit of truth which they have received.

It is God's reserved right to give the Holy Ghost and that makes you a member of Christ's Church (Body) then you will start bearing fruits of Holy Ghost.
Thanks

Bros to tel u dt Jesus created the church(catholic) read mat 16:18-19 " And I tell u that u are peter, on this rock I ll build my Church nd the gates of hades ll never overcome it"

italo:
Rev5:8 When he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell before the Lamb, each holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.

Right now in heaven, the elders are offering my prayers to God.

Alleluia!

Bros nt 4 u only Ooo
Bt 4 u nd ur family nd 4 I nd my family also including all those who Blivs in intercession

Barnabaseloka:
Only christians who are still alive on earth can pray for their fellow christians. The dead or christians who have gone into eternity cannot do so. Remember the story of Lazarus and the rich man. Christians pray through ONLY one Man to God- Jesus Christ.

Read Rev;5;8
1Timothy 2:1-4
Rev 6:10 Note: Dey cried out wit a loud voice , ' O sovereign Lord, holy nd true, how long b4 u ll judge nd avenge our blood on those who dwell on earth?" this verse mentions believers who are in heaven praying to the Lord regarding those on earth.
Luke 15:10 Jesus says "just so, I tell u. There is joy b4 the angels of God over one sinner who repents." who are those who rejoice? This could refer 2 Angels, saints in heaven, Christ or most likely all of the above. If those in heaven are aware of those on earth who repent, could it also be true these same saints are praying for the repentance of those who are lost?
Jas 5:6-18

luckyCO:
Sir you are mixing two Mary here.
One is Mary mother of Christ
Another is Mary Magdalene.

Correct it such that your point can be clear.

'Vatican 0 (Apostolic time)' to refer to a time when Roman State Law has not mixed with Christianity.
It was after then we have Vatican 1,2 and 3 is ready now.

Chief is nt only Mary magdalene bt also our mother(d mother of God) nd the issue of vertican0, Bros it did nt exist or hv nt heard abt it

luckyCO:
Yes you can shift your attention from God to your pastor, priest, Pope if God encountered you through them if you dont know the Word.
When Cornelius wanted to worship Peter, he quickly reacted that he is just a man like.
God want us see Himself in action by giving our parents,pastors,priest etc grace to take care of us such we will know how much God loves us by what we see around such that nobody will doubt that God exist. Rom 1:1-end.

In gentile dispensation, God is not dealing with us as group of people such as catholic, anglican, methodist, pentecostal etc because there is no such thing in heaven, He deals with us individually and that is how your salvation will come.

You know when anti-Christ will come if it is possible he will deceive the very elect. You dont know they are in every church that is why you need to live your life in the Word. We build our in Apostles and Prophet and Christ the chief Cornerstone.
We all know when all these prayers to Mary entered catholic they were not there before. In 'Vatican 0 (Apostolic time)' it was not there. It came in Vatican 1 became evident in Vatican 2 and finally the whole attention will be shifted from God to man in supposed Vatican 3.

I believed same doctrine with you until God quickened my spirit to the meaning of salvation and I throw them away and begin to look on to Christ.
Do I tell people to pray for me yes I do, if God quickens to me that He has given you (italo) grace to assist me solving my challenge I will involve you on the basis that it is God working in All. Because He gave some Apostles,Prophet,Pastor,teacher and evangelist to build up the body. You may abuse your grace by demanding excess respect which in turn give more attention to you more than God, that is where the problem is.

God is All in All through Christ.
God bless you.

Bros wu told u dt dose prayers were nt in d ist vertican nd do we hv vertican 0? Afta d death of Christ, dey took d body of Jesus down 4rm d cross nd press him 2 Mary's bosom. Mary was d ist 2 knw dt Jesus has risen 4rm d death, She was d 1 wu told d disciples, she was d 1 dt d angel instructed 2 tel d Disciples dt Dey shld meet him in Galili, Bros ar u seeing her role?

italo:
Those people that went to meet Peter, that took the apostles' handkerchief for healing, that brought their sick so that Peter's shadow can heal them...were they shifting attention from God?

You give supplication to your pastor. "Pastor pray for me" "pastor help me"

Satan is shifting your attention from God?

Your problem is a deficiency in reasoning. You should humble yourself and learn from those who think better than you and the Church which was given authority to teach you.

I love dis point. Dat is d spirit

Scholar8200:
The events occurred after they were dead. Else why did lazarus not pray to Father Abraham to help beg God change his condition on earth?


Being a widow, Mary losing her first son needed a helper and that was what Jesus provided for her through John.


This is erroneous!!! Jesus sent the Holy Spirit (Comforter) to do the highlighted! Play which role So is John at any time described as all individuals?
Apart from Acts 1 were Mary is seen joining others to tarry for the Holy Spirit's baptism, why the deafening silence about her in the Epistles?

Jesus christ who is equal 2 God hv d holy spirit in him, yet d mother played a role 4 him

luckyCO:
You reason God as if He is a man.
Even Christ told us if we 'pay attention' to our parents more than God we are not fit to follow Him.
Love God will all your heart, with all your mind and love your neighbor the way you love yourself which includes your mother.

Love is not segregated, love is love whether to your parents or not, that happens only when your obedience is complete otherwise you continue to search scripture to support human Ideas that theologian brought into the church in other to shift our attention from God to man.

Thanks

Bros y do u pray 2ru ur G.O, " d God dt worketh wit my G.O"

Scholar8200:
because Jesus said to do so Matthew 7:11
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

They did not call on Mary! By the way, apart from that scene which does not even portray what you wish it did, how many people sought to see Jesus because they needed a miracle etc and had to enlist Mary's attention? Read this and discern what it reveals:
Mark 3:31-35
31 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.
32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.
33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.


I assume you made a mistake here. Else, this is an illustration of how the Word is twisted to back up your tradition!
Consider:

John 19:26,27

26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.
There is nothing here to remotely suggest what you have posited!

Tank u so much broda for responding, am api especially people who want 2 learn.
The story of abraham nd d rich man( heaven nd hell)
Remember also dt Jesus gave the John 2 Mary as mother and son, are u telling me that John dn't hv a physical mother? Jesus knowing fully well dt John needs mary 2 encourage him nd play a part in his life if John was 2 succeed. That is 2 say all individual Jesus is giving Mary 2 all as DIA mother so she can play same role she played 4 him

FowlYansh:
Stop worshiping idols and stop bowing down to images. God is a jealous God.

Bros who told u dt u ar on d rite track?

legion of mary Handbook, chap1 page 9 titled Name and Origin
Explanation: D legion of mary is a society in the catholic church, nd Mary immaculate, mediatrix of all Graces as her Leader. D legion is formed mainly 2 help recapture the lost sheep. The legion of Mary is built lik d army of ancient Rome, Dey decided 2 use army because are d only set of people who Blivs in loyalty, virtues, nd Dey ar very courageous. D army is considered number one in terms of humility............ Continue

italo:
The Saints are in heaven. They don't have to be in your living room to hear you.

1John2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.

Stop limiting God and those who have become like him.

Idaful

Lets talk more about the legion. Lets study the handbook together

italo:
You should be asking yourself that question. Why are you interceding to the intercessor for your loved ones when you pray for them? Why are you being a priest pleading with the high priest for them? Why are you acting as another advocate for them? Is it absurd or not?


I asked that if you can pray for your loved ones, why can't Jesus' mother pray for her loved ones.

You couldn't answer.

God bless you 4 dt wonderful question

luckyCO:
Am happy that you find it humbly enough to respond my comment.
There is contradictions here, you think am insulting/underrating Mary mother of Christ, never! never!! never!!!
Am a Catholic just as you are until am quickened the real meaning of Salvation and I praise God. Nobody is greater than the other,God saw all has fallen away from his grace and He come in His Son born of a woman to redeem us back to Himself. Today we can say Abba Father!
Those who receive 30%,60% 100% grace worked with their ability according to grace given but to the glory of God the Father.

Mary was overshadowed and She conceived[b](no reward)[/b] also was there at upper room to receive Holy Ghost[b](grace for reward-hope of glory)[/b]. All the qualities you attributed to Mary was given to her by God, what will you gain by asserting so much effort studying/praising/venerating the gift instead of the giver.

We all are waiting for the white throne judgement where all of us who did good will come out and be rewarded for all the things we did while on earth including Mary mother of Jesus.

Remember God's aim on the earth is for all to be under Christ and Christ under God who place everything under Him!

The problem is we reason God just as if He is a man, that is why we say Mary of mother of God etc.

God bless you.

My formal catholic broda, you are correct we are all under our master Jesus christ and we are waiting for judgement including Mary, then why ll Christ give us illustration about Abraham and the Rich man? That is to tel u Abraham has a role he is playing in the Kingdom of God, that is why Jesus Christ even promised his disciples dat Dey will be with Him 2 judge the twelve tribe of israel

Scholar8200:
But why ask somebody to intercede to the Intercessor?!It's like saying we need a priest to plead with the High Priest to do the work for which He was ordained!!!!
Hebrews 4:14-16

14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

The High Priest ordained by God is sufficient, we need not add to the Word. Do you hire two lawyers/advocates when going to court?! One to beg the other to do the work for which he was engaged by you? Does this not sound absurd?!


Beseech Jesus Christ? Did He change after His ascension? Did He not say:

John 14:13
And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

John 16:23,24,27

23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. 24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
27 for the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God

Besides, the quote above in Hebrews tells us to come boldly to our Father's Throne! We are not hapless/ helpless subjects but sons (for those who are saved) and joint-heirs with Christ!

The only person who was remotely called mother of the women that believe was Sarah (1 Peter 3:6) Besides, we dont find the apostles enlisting the intercession of any of the cloud of witnesses:
Acts12:5
5 Peter therefore was kept in prison: but prayer was made without ceasing of the church unto God for him.

Bros y do u pray at all knowing fully well dt ur father in heaven knows all ur need?
We dn't need any 1 to intercede 4 us bt why call on mary at d wedding feast of cana wen d wine got finished?
Why did Jesus on the cross ask d mother 2 be the mother of all(Apostles?

LewsTherin:
The omnipresent Father,
The omnipresent Son,
The omnipresent Holy Spirit.

There are over 1 billion Catholics on the planet. 1/24th of them may be praying at every single hour of the day every day. The omnipresent trinity can hear and attend all petitions at every time. The Spirit is with every Christian at every time. The Son lives in the heart of every Christian at every time.

I wonder. Is Mary omnipresent too? It's the only arguement I haven't gotten a rebutal to.

When pastors perform miracles does it mean Dey ar omnipresent? Or wen u respect the wife of ur pastors nd call dem mummy does it mean u are respecting dem more dan dia husband d pastor? If we can learn 2 respect d wife of a pastor, Hw much respect can u giv 2 d mother of ur creator

luckyCO:
Continues...

If I bring you back to catholic prayers to Mary you will understand you are rubbing Paul and paying Peter.
Eg.
We fly to your patronage,
O holy Mother of God;
despise not our petitions in our necessities,
but deliver us always from all dangers,
O glorious and blessed Virgin.

Were you asking her to intercede for you or are you praying to her?

My dear, anybody can form any prayer or say anything whether Good or bad as long as it has Mary in it everybody will accept it, that is the problem.
Catholics(Universal body of Christ) do not pray such prayers nor make such claims it is only Romans do.
Please can we promote Christ my dear and defend less on smart human reasoning?

If Mary mother of Christ were to be alive today she will not be happy with your write-up because she gave all the glory to God through Christ and she pointed everybody to Christ even at Cana in Galilee.

Can you point others to Christ the way Mary did?

Judge everything you hear about Mary ; apparitions,sermons,teaching etc with Bible and if you see any contradiction please ignore it otherwise it will lead astray.

We dont judge Gods approval because of miracles or anointing or signs and wonders.

Thanks

Wat is the meaning of "intercede"

luckyCO:
It is unfortunate the writer is still making claims in justifying something you just grew up to meet.
I believe you become catholic by birth and I also believe you have never for one day cross check your believe system with the Holy Scripture to decide what to believe.
I wish you can defend Christ who died for you instead of Denominational catholic and her children. Mary did not die for you but Christ did,He is the bridge between God and Man,Living and Dead,The Only Way,Truth and our salvation.

Continues.....

Bros Mary played a key role in Jesus ministry, especially her profound humility, her perfect obedience, her angelical sweetness, her continual prayer, her universal mortification, her altogether spotless purity, her heroic patience, her heavenly wisdom, her self sacrificing courageous love of God nd above all her faith, that virtue which has in her alone been found in its utmost extent nd never equalled. Bros No one in this world can ever play the role dat woman played. She deserve an honour 4rm u

Mcowubaba:
With all due respect sir, i have analysed nd answered this ur question, it is either u failed to grasp the answer or u are deliberatly auto-replying me
U have no valid or logical question or issue, fact or observation
So adieu Sir....
Go nd consult with ur cathesist or Revend father let dem equipe you with more false doctrines, nd come back, through the grace of GOD i will tell u the truth nd dispute the fallacies in Catholic Church
Till then, may the Peace of the Lord be with you nd your family...
Bye bye

my Bros remember in that book of Rev I mentioned earlier not until d saints prayed, dt is to tel u dt dere is intercession, nd lik I said b4 at the wedding feast of cana, mary's role indicate wat a mother she is nd also read my post again

Mcowubaba:
I don't,...
Even If i i do, he(the pastor) prays in the name of Jesus Christ, nd he doesn't in any way reference his name or personality in the prayer...
We tell pastors to pray for us, because some people have low faith or are not well grounded Christians; which makes them believe that JESUS CHRIST can't hear/answer them directly!!!
Some people tell pastors to pray for them, because the believe that the Pastor has a better understanding of the things of GOD, or the believe that the pastor/reverend is in good standing/good spiritual relationship with GOD(catholics will say 'State of Grace'),...i can give u many more reasons(but good nd bad), but that does nt equate/justifly- Praying in Mary's name or authority Or praying through Mary to JESUS CHRIST....these Pastors don't pray through themselves to Jesus Christ, the just pray directly to JESUS CHRIST nd ask HIM to interfer in the situation of the person/brethren who is being prayed for.....Or have u seen some1 pray in the name of any pastor b4 Or add any pastor's name as a point of mediator in his/her prayers...don't get me wrong, some1 can pray based on the testimony of a beliver like saying 'O GOD YOU did it for my friend Nkechi nd Osinbajo, YOU can do it for me too'...
Remain blessed!!!

Bros why do sm people pray through dia G.O, sm will say the God dt worketh with my G.O, sm churches even put on the medals of dia G.O

Mcowubaba:
Exempt for the hail mary prayer.....
'Holy Mary Pray for Us sinners now nd @ the hour of our Death'
Even the memorare-
'Remember O Most Blessed Virgin Mary, that is a thing unheard of, that anyone who impored your help was left forsaken, here i come, before thee I stand, a sinful nd sorrowful sinner, despite not my poor words O mother of the world incarnate'
All this things na Prayer na...
Jesus Christ Clearly said ' I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE NO ONE COMMET TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME' =This is the summary of this discussion QED!!

Nd ps..u don't need any mediator/ intersesor to connect to JESUS CHRIST.... But u need JESUS CHRIST to connect to the FATHER...
Tanks

Bros why do u ask ur pastor to pray 4 u?

Success1sMine:
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Bros Wetin dat1 min na

Catholics do not pray "to" Mary as an equal to God. They pray "through" Mary as an intercessor who prays to God on behalf of mankind.
If Catholics were to pray to Mary, this would imply that they are worshipping her as a god. But Catholics do not perceive Mary as a god. (i) They honour the Blessed Virgin Mary. (ii) The view Mary as the holiest of all the Saints. (iii) The accept the fact that Mary is the most successful Saint at obtaining Divine favours through her intercession. the above mentioned belief is partially based on the fact that Jesus is the King of kings and Mary, as the mother of the King, is the "queen mother." Then, when studying Jewish history, it is discovered that the institution of the "queen mother" was established during the reign of King Solomon.
In the Old Testament, we learn of the favoured position of the queen mother through the following words, "... then the king sat on his throne, and had a throne brought for the king's mother, and she sat on his right. Then she said, 'I have one small request to make of you, do not refuse me.' And the king said to her, 'Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.'" [1 Kgs. 2:19-20]
Following the reign of King Solomon, many of the kings kept this practice. The mother of the king, through who the king received his throne, was trusted as a confident and advisor. So important was the function of the queen mothers in the days of the Old Testament that their names were listed in the succession records of the kings of Judah. [See 1 Kgs 14:21, 15:13; 2 Kgs. 12:1, 14:2, 15:2, etc...]
Similar to the intercession of the Queen Mother, when a child desires a favour and cannot obtain it from his/her parents, frequently the child will make the request to the grandparent to intercede on his/her behalf, therefore obtaining the favour that was being sought. This does not mean that the child is seeking the parental favour from the grandparent. Rather, the child is seeking the intercession of the grandparents before the parents.
Furthermore, Catholics do not differentiate between the living (in this world) and the dead (those who departed) members of the Body of Christ (the fullness of the Church.) The fullness of the mystical Body of Christ is found in the union of all the saints, past and present, here below and those above in Heaven.
In view of the aforementioned, it cannot be denied that those who were called to Heaven, including Mary, are still alive in spirit in the Kingdom of God that coexists with our world. As some non-Catholics pray through their deceased parents, grandparents or other biological relatives, asking these beloved departed persons to intercede before God on their behalf, Catholics pray through Mary to Jesus, taking advantage of her blessed position as the Mother of God.
This Catholic action affirms the prophetic and Divinely inspired passage that is found in the Holy Bible where it states, "Surely, from now on all generations will call me blessed." [Lk. 1:47] All generations could not call Mary blessed if she was not actively involved in the progressive Divine Plan that continues to develop before our eyes.
Indeed, all generations have called the Blessed Virgin Mary blessed, including this one, because she has never stopped interceding on behalf of the world, her intercession obtaining endless miraculous cures and other favours. The role of Mary in the area of obtaining physical miraculous cures is well known and documented in Lourdes, France, this being only one of the many holy places where the grace of God has been manifested through the Virgin Mary at apparition sites.
Rev;5:8(the prayer of the saints)
Rev 8:3-4(the prayer of Angels)
Matt18:10(Angels praying for little children )
Even at the wedding feast of cana
I Bliv some catholics in the houz can help me with some point. Tanks

From what I observed Buhari was a dictator and later showed sign of remorse over what he did. Buhari is trying to do tins he failed 2 do as a dictator. To me if given opportunity Buhari ll b among th best president of this country but there is a problem. And d problem is DECISION. Buhari is old enough 2 take decision but people who placed him there( if elected) will not allow him 2 rule the nation the way he wanted because He ll try 2 please those who placed him there. To tell you the truth is better 4 Buhari 2 be respected as our mentor than 2 be controlled by individual. wHILE Jonathan is a man that many Nigerian thought ll lead us 2 the promise land but He disappointed many, favoured some & left the rest in limbo. Jonathan came into power wit the zeal 2 serve the people but thesame problem of decision came in. Though Jonathan showed sign of improvement @ d last minute. If Re-elected, Jonathan ll b goodnews 2 some and bad news 2 Odas. I Bliv he has the integrity 2 rule this country but decision ll mak him look as if he is between the goal post either 2 catch the ball or score own goal. From my own part, I Bliv these great men of ours( Buhari nd Jonathan) has made nigeria proud. I wonder Witout Buhari in this election, it ll b lik manchester untied vs Arsenal. and also without Jonathan. It ll n lik barcelona vs kano pillars.
So the question is who can rule nigeria? To me the answer is ME lol.
Plz my little advise 2 all nairalanders, election is not do all die affair, those people you are shouting their names dn't even knw you, so plz go and vote and dn't mak trouble in the pulling unit.