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Sweetnecta:
@ShiaMuslim: For me, nothing on the three issues you listed above, siply because none of the is the proprietary and exclusive property of ShiaIsm, over other Muslims, especially the group called Sunni.

that is our sincere wish.but when people try to push these 3 issues under the carpet and still hope everyone will forget about them,indeed the group that remembers those 3 and commemorate and honor those 3 becomes the group with exclusive right over them.its the fact!!!

All Ahlul Bayt (RA), Imam Hussayn (RA) and the Battle of Karbala are acknowledged and beloved, well familiar to all muslims. The day of Ashurra is an event during the time of Seyiddina Musa (AS) of Bani Israil. The Messenger (AS) told us to fast, and we do not have to beat ourselves up, getting blood from our body for this. There is no self beat up in Islam. It is haram and just because this is the same day that the grandson of the messenger died, as the messenger himself had stated, including about sayiddina Ali death, we should not let us forget what ashurra is; Musa, a messenger of Allah.

how are they acknowledged?with empty words?you cannot acknowledge them if you do not accept their superior status over the ret of the sahaba.here by mentioning the sahaba i mean the most pious sahaba like ammar and bilal,may Allah bless them.you must obey the messenger of Allah and accept the fact that he left behind the Quran and the Ahlul-Bayt for us to follow.if you follow anyone else,you are going contrary to the messenger's admonition.

When the son of the prophet (AS) died, the people saw an eclipse of the sun and declared that heaven is mourning, too. The prophet (AS) stopped them from such utterance.

can you prove that?

I wonder what the prophet will say about the death of his grandson being made to overshadow the event on Prophet Musa (AS) who is in 6th heaven and dubbed Qalamullahu Taala? How do people beat them up and go revere the grave, supplicating to him, begging him, when Allah Alone is to be supplicated and begged?

to muslims and to God Muhammad (sa) is the sayyidul-mursaleen or the master of the messengers.i am the one that should wonder what would Prophet Musa (as) do on ashura day:celebrate or mourn for the grandson of Muhammad (sa)?


my friend you got things wrong.it is unfortunate that the muslims have being veiled from the most basic facts about their religion.there is nothing in islam that prevents anyone from visiting a grave to honor someone especially the good and obedient servant of Allah.honoring these men is being subservient to Allah.doing tawassul too is not haram.it is only wahhabism that have infected islam with bid'a and tried to twist the facts for what they truly stand for.

as for your fasting and ashura understanding that its a joyous day when Musa (as) was saved from the pharoah,you need to re-think.those are part of the hadiths manufactured by the ummayads to lessen the significance of ashura and its relevance to imam Hussain and karbala.

the hadith fabricated where the messenger of AAllah is portrayed as commanding fasting on ashura day is fabricated and a shame.how can the messenger of Allah copy the jews?infact,copy or no copy that hadith has being refuted by calculations.the hadith says that the messenger of Allah was in medinah upon his hijra and met the jews fasting.it is a fact based on calculations that the messenger was not in medinah on the month of muharram during that year.the date clear shows that the hadith is made up for a purpose.the Prophet arrived medinah after muharram in the first year of hijra.

secondly,note that no jewish day of fast in the first or second year of hijrah coincided with the 10th of muharram.
so how could the Prophet declared the 10th of muharram a day of fast connected to the jews when that day never coincided with a jewish day of fast nor the fast of yom kippur or the fast of the day of atonement the jews commemorate?


if you are interested you can read more why the fast on ashura is a lie and fabricated.see the article link below:

http://www.muharram.shiasisters.net/articles/the_fast_of_ashura.html

and:

http://www.al-islam.org/al-tawhid/ashura/

main source:
http://www.al-islam.org/search.php?selected_tab=&having=939561&cat=0&sid=380638106