Good suggestions on the pricing. This will spread quickly if we all visit farms close to us and talk to them as one farmer to another. 7000 for a 15kg bag of feed is crazy enough. Add to that the increase in everything else and we're on the losing end of the business

vickifeanyi47:
Hello house, please my pond water begins to smell after 2 days of changing it I did not overstock and I don't overfeed what might be the likely cause of this

Maybe it's as a result of your fish getting bigger and eating more food, thereby producing more waste. My ponds smell worse than it used to and I still change water in the same number of days I used to, that is every other day.

fzero:

What is wrong with u , y do u like abusin and causin problem everywhere u step in. From aquabren to Nairaland. Everyone should watch out for this fellow, nothing good comes out of you. All ur plans will fail on this thread.

Calm down chief. There's nothing wrong with letting the guy know his application is poor. Maybe he could have worded the criticism differently but it's all for the better. Trust me, he'll face a lot more of those in the future while trying to secure a job and also in other aspects of life.
As for your allegations, the world needs people like Chilan Farms to balance things out. As far as I know, he hasn't caused any troubles on Aquabren. Stop being paranoid

pumppie:
I need u to be clear sir, guess some typo is the cause tho, I never mentioned anything about 48bags of durante sir, I only said I personally use durante, But advised the client to use vital. Durante Equivalent of the model is 29bags. Hope u get?

You did mention 48 bags of 4mm vital feed at 4,250.

doagric:
good for your friend but i have an observation though, i maybe wrong but from your write up your friend used a total of 64 bags of feed after the 3 bags of 1.5 mm . 64 x 15kg will give us 960kg of dry feed fed to 6000 pieces of fish and that gives him 1920kg of wet weight this brings brings the FCR to about 0.5 (fcr= dry feed fed/weight weight gain) in two months plus? i do not think that is poosible even with the best of seeds, good spacing and great water management . but like i said earlier i maybe wrong but i would appreciate an insight on where i went wrong. thanks

I like your argument but I think his analysis is totally plausible. During my last culture period, over half of my fish were averaging 700 gramms after 10 weeks from juvenile(quite a number of them were weighing 1kg). About 40% were averaging 400gramms. And I used 12 bags of Ziegler(180kg) for 600 pieces. As at 7 weeks, they were already at the melange stage. If I had decided on melange before stocking, I would have successfully done it.
If your seed is good, there's nothing stopping you from reaching that size in 10 weeks from fingerlings.
I think I'll attempt his formula for my next batch

robonski15:



[b]Its so sad hearing about your story with the feed, i remember the last time we chatted about some issues you were having using the feed.I want to use this medium to apologise to the affected farmers that didn't get a good result using the magnet feed. it really hurts me to see those i mentored talk about their displeasure about the feed.. it saddens me to read about issues some farmers earlier while using the feed.
I remember we had some glitch on one particular batch of feed the pelleted feed. But we will keep improving on the feed until we get the desired result. A new version of the feed is out which is the new improved floating feed which we took a drastic step to ensure the feed passes all quality parameters. People have started using the improve version and the feedback has been remarkable so far.

Concerning the customer service i am sorry to hear about your ordeal, though i am not directly in charge of it,i can't handle that coupled with questions i receive daily.. we have the whatsapp customers forum handled by someone else. i will have a good look into that section.
I have been an advocate of transparency in fish farming business and i will never deter from it. Once again to those that where affected(lost money, time, resources) because of the feed, Robonski is deeply sorry about it, no words can adequately do justice to how i am deeply sorry about your plight. If i have envisaged a problem like this will arise because of me i would have renege from it, but we are all striving hard to achieved a common goal which making profit in fish business.

I want to say a big thank you to the many individuals that has been sending me messages all day to encourage me, i do appreciate your deportment.[/b]

I appreciate the gesture. That's all we were asking for Chief! What's done is done. Water under the bridge. I'm sure we've all learnt valuable lessons from this episode and it's made us all stronger.
Please, for the sake of peace, help look into Jesset's issue. The guy seemed really distraught last Sunday. Thanks again for clearing this up

onifadeayo:

A follower not a member, registered to share my experience from using the feed

Fair enough

onifadeayo:

been a silent follower of this thread for some times now, the date is clearly written.

Well, your profile shows you just registered on 29 April 2016.

komakan:
Oga. I observed that you just opened account on nairaland today and u are antagonising people and also talking about 2013 issues on nairalabd. If you are sent I will advice you to fear God.

Interesting. He sounded a bit eager to defend the feed. I have to confess, I also just retrieved my password for this forum just so I could toss in my 2cents. I just couldn't stomach the whole thing anymore.

It's good we have people wading in now. This is my first time commenting on here after following the thread since early last year and I can absolutely tell you Robonski gave me new motivation to get back into this business. I contacted him from the very first day I got my stock last year and he gave me great insight. Water management and feeding technique and brand(Zeigler)
I've also learnt a lot from other posters on here but I can't name them all(too many to count). Free feed formula, free consultation and so on. What I'm trying to establish is simple; I don't believe Robonski is a bad person but I am almost certain his good will is being taken advantage of.
Having said all that, I'd like to chip in. I ordered for juveniles on 5th of January and I have to say, it's been a wild, hard ride for me. I got so excited about the Dutch F3, I got my parents in on it. Although my dad showed a lot of skepticism, mainly because I had to pay upfront and it was into the farm manager's account, my mum was very much excited as I was. To cut the long story short, After 15 days, I got fingerlings that looked like post fries with about 34 mortalities, after waiting the whole day. I immediately contacted soft to complain about the size, mortality and the fact I didn't get 1 single fish extra. He apologized but questioned why I had to count the fish immediately they brought them. He promised to refund the balance of the fingerlings(6000 naira) with 100 extra fingerlings to make up for the mortality but took a lot longer than I expected. I had to tell him to forget about the extra fingerlings. The amount of mortality I've experienced is unprecedented. I've been in this business for quite a while and it's never been this bad. I would have assumed full responsibility if this was my first culture period. I've never had to use antibiotics and multivitamins before until now. All that is neither here nor there.
As for the feed, I have to say, I'm glad I didn't introduce any other farmers to it. I struggled with it for 4 days before deciding to switch to foreign feed. The mistake I made was going back to the gelatin feed. It may have worked for some people but I have to be honest, it's not worth the trouble. Pollution is a major setback, the fish looked like they stagnated and I'm surprised I didn't stop using it earlier than I did. I complained to Robonski but he asked me to keep using it and that he also uses it on his farm and he gets marvelous results. Before then, I had contacted some people that used it and they had all stopped using it because they were not getting results.
I wasn't too keen on saying anything publicly(except for the Agricnetwork thread I opened, which was a bit light on information) but the way Soft treats complaints is really poor. You cant always blame the farmer for poor farming practices after they bought fish and feed from you. Getting on the defensive and arguing with the customer won't help your business one bit. You have to assume some kind of responsibility. As for those suggesting we are trying to sabotage his efforts or calling us "vagabonds", it's a tad unfair and an insult to other people's intelligence. We complained because we bought fish and feed from Soft and have used it. Why would anybody want to bring him down when we are not offering an alternative to his products?
He needs to sort out the problem and apologise to those affected. In fact, I had every intention of buying the new floating feed they're selling now but after this weekend's outbursts and behavior on Soft's part, I have decided to look elsewhere for my feed/formula.

miqos02:
good if u have contacts

Hello Chief, just came across this thread on Robonski15's hit thread about catfish and I have to say I'm a bit surprised it's not been explored as much as it should(smoked fish). I do smoke catfish myself and I currently have 2 coal fired ovens that will smoke 100 and 300 fish at once. The major problem this fish business is the distribution channels. How do you get constant buyers. Let me know if you're interested in discussing this further. Let me see if I can attach photos of the ovens