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PoliticsRe: Court Sentences Doyin Okupe To 2 Yrs In Prison or an option of N13m fine by kilisi(m): 3:39pm On Dec 19, 2022
grin
PoliticsRe: Okupe Has Been Sentenced To Two And Half Years In Prison by kilisi(m): 3:39pm On Dec 19, 2022
grin
PoliticsRe: IPOB: Food Traders Boycott South East As Northerners Flee by kilisi(m):
What else do you expect?
PoliticsRe: In Niamey, African Leaders Shares Testimonies On President Buhari's Leadership by kilisi(m): 10:21pm On Dec 10, 2022
LordviccoDaGuru:
Hungry wailer like u grin come lemme feed u send me ur account details
Bros I sent you a PM. Please respond sir.

My email is kenneslink @yahoo.com

Phone number is 070-six-four-two-eight-0204.
SportsRe: England Vs France: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 (1 - 2) On 10th Dec 2022 by kilisi(m): 8:10pm On Dec 10, 2022
smile11s:
For each goal France scores, I will pick any random person who quotes me and send that person an urgent 5k.

Good luck
Ok
CrimeRe: Armed Men Shoot 2 Dead In Enugu. Rob Traders In Anambra (Pics,Video) by kilisi(m): 4:40pm On Dec 10, 2022
OyeofIkoTuN:
are you not part of the masses wailing here?..
Igbos no wail na other tribes dey wail pass.
isn't right
Unintelligent people irritate me.
So, please stay out of my mention.
Bye!!!
CrimeRe: Armed Men Shoot 2 Dead In Enugu. Rob Traders In Anambra (Pics,Video) by kilisi(m): 4:30pm On Dec 10, 2022
Risingblue008:
I'll keep saying it

Most of all these attrocities are being sponsored by the same government

Pls don't tag it to ipod
They have no hands in this
Mind u,
I'm not an Igbo man,
But u pple should knw what ur government is capable of doing.

Na we the Masses dey feel the pain,Dem no send us angry angry

Let's vote wisely now,
Or naija,our sweet country go collapse

Compliment of the season
SMH Mr Lienus.
SportsRe: Netherlands Vs Argentina FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 (3 - 4) pens On 9th Dec 2022 by kilisi(m): 8:31pm On Dec 09, 2022
petux:
I believe you should be over 18 years of age. Does this make sense to you..
Who told you he's over 18? Don't be surprised, many of them including the guy you quoted are under 16, some in secondary school.
SportsRe: Croatia Vs Brazil: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 : (4 - 2) pens On 9th December 2022 by kilisi(m): 5:05pm On Dec 09, 2022
Lifeless2018:
I think they should introduce Bruno Guimares. Xtra midfielder. Neymar to the wing
Spot with that extra midfielder.

Croatia are slightly edging the midfield battle. An extra midfielder like Guimares will wrestle the midfield from Croatia. Move Richarlison to the right Vinicious remains on the left while Neymar plays the false nine role in a 4-3-3.
SportsRe: Croatia Vs Brazil: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 : (4 - 2) pens On 9th December 2022 by kilisi(m): 3:11pm On Dec 09, 2022
Starz825:
What a pity
The samba boys are going home tonight ..
I'm so sure they'd cry out their eyes before leaving...

Their tears are welcome anyway cheesy

You can mention me ...but I don speak my mind regardless
You are correct! But not only Brazil. Argentina, England and Morocco will join them.




You heard it here first: The cup is going to Netherlands!
SportsRe: Qatar World Cup 2022 Quarter-Final Fixtures by kilisi(m): 11:26am On Dec 09, 2022
Croatia VS Netherlands
Portugal VS France
Final will Netherlands VS Portugal


Netherlands wins.




Bookmark this comment!
SportsRe: Qatar World Cup 2022 Quarter-Final Fixtures by kilisi(m): 11:13am On Dec 09, 2022
AdemolaA2:
E go shock you .. you go know say I be octopus 22 for predictions.
Patiently waiting for your shock.
SportsRe: Qatar World Cup 2022 Quarter-Final Fixtures by kilisi(m): 10:57am On Dec 09, 2022
AdemolaA2:
Good bye to England Good bye to Portugal Goodbye to Croatia Goodbye to Netherlands
Wrong predictions except for England.
PoliticsRe: Ndigbo: What If Peter Obi Does Not Win The 2023 Presidential Election? by kilisi(op): 1:38pm On Dec 07, 2022
TinubuDeDrugLor:
All these Yoruba bigots.
You may want to check again the name of the writer, please.
PoliticsRe: Ndigbo: What If Peter Obi Does Not Win The 2023 Presidential Election? by kilisi(op): 1:17pm On Dec 07, 2022
HedwigesMaduro:
Then we go back to our original Biafla or nothing.
cheesy cheesy cheesy
PoliticsRe: Ndigbo: What If Peter Obi Does Not Win The 2023 Presidential Election? by kilisi(op): 12:07pm On Dec 07, 2022
Naira20:
Peter Obi would win...Period.
I think this would gladden Ndigbo as well as other Nigerians.
The greatest joy would be to retire Tinubu+Atiku
If wishes were horses....
PoliticsRe: Ndigbo: What If Peter Obi Does Not Win The 2023 Presidential Election? by kilisi(op): 11:07am On Dec 07, 2022
Jostoman:
What is your problem with indigbo OP?
I didn't write it. Check the writer and source.
PoliticsRe: Ndigbo: What If Peter Obi Does Not Win The 2023 Presidential Election? by kilisi(op): 11:06am On Dec 07, 2022
FarahAideed:
He is not Winning
Never say never!
PoliticsRe: Ndigbo: What If Peter Obi Does Not Win The 2023 Presidential Election? by kilisi(op): 10:49am On Dec 07, 2022
dumahi:
I new you guys would be posting this.
Why?
PoliticsNdigbo: What If Peter Obi Does Not Win The 2023 Presidential Election? by kilisi(op): 10:43am On Dec 07, 2022
BY UGO CHUKWUKA

Ndigbo in Nigeria owe to themselves a sincere and unemotional answer to this question before it is too late: what if Peter Obi does not win the 2023 presidential election? This is precisely the question the governor of Anambra state, Professor Chukwuma Soludo, courageously confronted in his piece which he titled: ‘History Beckons and I will not be Silent (Part 1)’. But rather than sit back and ponder over the strong possibility of Obi not emerging and the attendant implication for Ndigbo, the issue was treated with sentiment driven by media frenzy and attacks.

The emotional outbursts that greeted Soludo’s timely intervention can be summarised as an insinuation that the governor of Anambra state does not want Peter Obi to become president of Nigeria. Such outbursts remain a classic case of ad hominem – insulting and making insults against the person while ignoring the issues put forth.
When people abandon the message to attack the messenger, it becomes dangerously diversionary and this is now a rising political culture that is further alienating Ndigbo from mainstream politics in Nigeria. This was the aim of those who pushed the narrative that Soludo does not want Peter Obi to become president of Nigeria and drove the media razzmatazz to an attempt to drown out the real issues contained in the erudite professor’s well-thought-out treatise and advice to Peter Obi in particular and Ndigbo in general.

Nonetheless, truth is both eternal and sacred. Though Peter Obi has managed to thrust himself forth as one of the four contenders to the office of the president of Nigeria, it is still obvious that he is the one playing catch-up and hasn’t quite reached the level where he and his Labour Party can be rationally evaluated as having developed the capacity already possessed by the ruling APC, and the main opposition PDP.

The capacity in question is what the two behemoth political parties (PDP and APC) gained from their inception and experience in the field since 1998. (Note that APC is as old as PDP because the legacy political blocks that formed the APC are as old as the PDP and like the PDP, APC has held the office of the president, state governors, and LG chairmen. Yes, PDP and APC have produced governors, senators, the senate president, the speaker of the house of representatives/members, state assembly members, and local government chairmen. Labour Party has not).

Sadly, Nigerians keep hearing the Labour Party and its candidate shouting at every turn, “people are the structure”. This claim is not only fallacious but also smacks of deep ignorance of party democracy as well as how political parties function in an election. By their admission, by the time Peter Obi joined the Labour party, the party was adjudged as not being present in up to 10% of Nigeria, particularly in the wards and polling units where voting and initial coalition take place.

Today barely 70 days to the presidential election, Labour Party, though has made some progress and inroads, evidently has not advanced beyond 30% in covering the wards and polling units in Nigeria whereas up to 80% of the grounds needed to be covered effectively by any political party that hopes to produce the president of Nigeria. Confirmatory of this position is that days ago, an open appeal by the Labour Party for volunteers as local government ward and polling units’ coordinators for the party surfaced online.

So, when Soludo says that Peter Obi is not positioned or primed to win, he is right and knows what he is talking about. Peter Obi is, without a doubt, popular particularly in the southern part of Nigeria. But the core north, which controls over 40% of the votes, has not heard much of Peter Obi. A few who have heard are not likely to abandon their regional strategic interests to support a Peter Obi presidency that has not shown how such interests would be protected. What is more, Obi and Labour Party are not reaching out enough or negotiating enough with the critical stakeholders. They rely on the social media-generated frenzy to create the false impression that an Obi victory is already fait accompli.

Ndigbo, including Soludo, genuinely want Peter Obi to win. But the question – what if Obi does not win? – must not also be swept under the carpet. Unless they have completely been misled and lost their way in Nigerian politics, there are very existential conditions which Ndigbo must put in perspective while taking political decisions at this moment. These are issues that shape their very existence and impact their future. Being emotional about such a lifesaving decision can only exacerbate an already bad situation and make the future bleaker as happened to Ndigbo in 2015 and 2019 when Ohanaeze led the Igbo people to shut the door against President Muhammadu Buhari.

Recall that Ohanaeze leadership in 2014 under its former president general, Chief Garry Igariwey, and former Ohanaeze Ndigbo secretary general, Dr Joe Nworgu, openly rejected the request by General Muhammadu Buhari to hold a meeting with the apex Igbo body. Ohanaeze’s leadership refused to engage, accusing Buhari of marginalising the southeast as the Petroleum Trust Fund (PTF) chairman set up by the Sani Abacha regime. Ohanaeze sentimentally also noted they would not engage with Buhari because when Shehu Shagari was overthrown in 1983, Shagari, the number one person in that toppled civilian administration, was placed under house arrest while Ekwueme, the number two, who had no constitutional functions was imprisoned.
Ohanaeze, by taking this hard stand, inadvertently declared Buhari an enemy of Ndigbo despite Buhari being a frontrunner and possible winner for the office of the president of Nigeria. The Igbo ethnic group thus refused to present their demands to the APC candidate who later won and also turned his back on Ndigbo. It is an impolitic move that the Igbo people later regrettably paid for and still pay dearly for.

As if that was not enough, again in 2019, Ohanaeze under Nnia Nwodo as president general did not only endorse the Atiku/Obi ticket of the PDP but again refused to give Buhari an audience despite being an incumbent president seeking re-election. Buhari was supposed to engage Ohanaeze the day he came down to Anambra state to commission Zik’s Mausoleum, which he completed.

Strangely, Ohanaeze PG rather than receive Buhari as a co-host to the historic moment, was at Nike Resorts in Enugu endorsing Atiku Abubakar and Peter Obi’s ticket of the Peoples Democratic Party. Nnia Nwodo said then that after a critical and dispassionate appraisal of the issues and the visible fault lines in our polity, including the analysis of the election manifestos of the various contesting parties, especially with regards to the restructuring of the federation and continued relevance of the Ndigbo in the Nigerian geopolitical space, Ohanaeze resolved to endorse the Atiku/Obi ticket. Furthermore, PDP nominated an Igbo son, Peter Obi, as the vice presidential candidate to give Ndigbo an opportunity for inclusivity.

Ohanaeze as a socio-cultural organisation has no business endorsing candidates. Whenever the Igbo apex body does that, it sends the message that Ndigbo does not want anything to do with other presidential candidates. This is very wrong and has contributed to the quagmire Ndigbo have found themselves in the current democratic dispensation.

This needless and provocative endorsement is repeating itself in 2022. Ohanaeze led by Professor George Obiozor has just endorsed Peter Obi and is urging Ndigbo not to support any other presidential candidate. This is yet another strategic blunder given the fact both Atiku and Tinubu stand stronger chances of winning in the 2023 presidential election when the critical factors that combine to produce Nigeria’s president are dispassionately factored into the equation.

So, the nagging question again; in the likely event that Peter Obi does not win, what then will be the fate of Ndigbo in post-2023 Nigeria given the fact that the major ethnic group is not engaging and has indeed foreclosed engaging the two likely presidents of Nigeria, Atiku, and Tinubu? The ominous consequences of Atiku or Tinubu emerging with the impression that Ndigbo shut him out may continue the Buhari/APC policy of Igbo marginalisation and exclusion, which has shown, is a self-inflicted injury.

Zik’s way remains the best way for Ndigbo. Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe’s politics of diplomacy and compromise fetched the Old Eastern Region positions in the powerful executive, legislative, judicial, bureaucratic, and defence positions in the First Republic. The approach also secured the southeast positions of the vice president and speaker of the house of representatives less than a decade after the civil war as well as several plum positions that ensured visibility and full representation of Ndigbo in the scheme of things as well as being the springboard for region-wide development.

All Igbo patriots should be extremely worried about the currently raging ‘ nzogbu-nzogbu ‘ (do-or-die) mentality, which seems to have displaced the time-honoured Igbo culture of political engagement, consensus building, and common sense. There is an urgent need to turn away from the politics of self-adulation, uncritical echo chamber, and herd mentality and re-embrace once again the politics of dialogue and robust debate.

Igbo political leaders must back Soludo’s intervention and engage by opening up negotiations with the PDP and APC presidential candidates to ensure the Igbo pride of place and relevance in the coming government. This is the way to also ensure the youth restiveness, separatist agitations, and insecurity that has bedevilled the southeast of late is stopped from escalating beyond 2023.
No major ethnic group in Nigeria carries all its eggs in one basket or forecloses negotiations in an election where there is no clear likely winner. A word, they say, is enough for the wise.


Chukwuka wrote from Lagos, Nigeria. He can be reached via ugochuka@gmail.com

https://www.thecable.ng/ndigbo-what-if-peter-obi-does-not-win-the-2023-presidential-election/amp
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Delegates El-Rufai, Dele Alake, Edun To Answer Questions At Chatham House by kilisi(m): 5:55pm On Dec 05, 2022
azikiweironsi:
Oil dey your head. You deserve a cold origin and kilisi to step it down.
angry angry angry
SportsRe: Costa Rica Vs Germany: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022. (2 - 4) On 1st December 2022 by kilisi(m): 10:17pm On Dec 01, 2022
Dhury:
did you know how many goals they must have to win with to drop Spain with 6goals?
A win for Costa Rica even if it is half goal to zero would have sent Spain and Germany home.
SportsRe: Costa Rica Vs Germany: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022. (2 - 4) On 1st December 2022 by kilisi(m): 10:07pm On Dec 01, 2022
IJEYdiamond:
Why u talk so,??
A Costa Rica win will not only eliminate Germany but also Spain too. That will be a very good payback.
SportsRe: Costa Rica Vs Germany: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022. (2 - 4) On 1st December 2022 by kilisi(m): 9:57pm On Dec 01, 2022
creolehunt:
How does it help them (the germans) if they lose?
Just a draw from Spain would have seen them through but no, they threw the game away. So they can retaliate by also to Costa Rica. Let the two of them go home!
SportsRe: Costa Rica Vs Germany: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022. (2 - 4) On 1st December 2022 by kilisi(m): 9:49pm On Dec 01, 2022
This German team no get sense a swear! If na me, I go allow Costa Rica win. Shebi Spain think they are smart abi. Two can play the game now!
SportsRe: Costa Rica Vs Germany: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022. (2 - 4) On 1st December 2022 by kilisi(m): 9:26pm On Dec 01, 2022
Jeffyblaq:
What exactly are you analyzing buddy?
The guy is absolutely correct. If Costa Rica scores the second goal now, Spain and Germany are heading home. Simple as ABC!
SportsRe: Croatia Vs Belgium: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: (0 - 0) On 1st December 2022 by kilisi(m): 12:38pm On Dec 01, 2022
Croatia to win or draw.

Belgium players throwing subtle jabs at each other, attackers blaming defenders for being too old and slow while the defenders (Toby Alderwield) have hit back that the attackers are not creating enough chances. So much disunity!





You can quote me anywhere!
SportsRe: Poland Vs Argentina: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 (0 - 2) On 30th Nov 2022 by kilisi(m): 7:11pm On Nov 30, 2022
WibusJaga:
.

Anything can happen. None of the 4teams is guaranteed of Qualifying.
wrong table! Saudi is ahead of Argentina based on head to head.
PoliticsRe: Bala Muhammed: Bauchi Will Vote Any Candidate Buhari Tells Them by kilisi(m): 5:02pm On Nov 22, 2022
LeoDeKing:
Is a lie, Bauchi people are obidense and they will give pandora Obituary 98.78% of their votes.
~ ipob pigs
Tormentor-in-chief!
PoliticsRe: Reno Omokri: Obi's Supporters Made Me Waste $4,000 Investigating Tinubu by kilisi(m): 4:56pm On Nov 20, 2022
Injera:
By far my favourite nairalander
I usually look out for his comments too.
PoliticsRe: Reno Omokri: Obi's Supporters Made Me Waste $4,000 Investigating Tinubu by kilisi(m): 1:09pm On Nov 20, 2022
LeoDeKing:
Obinna, he presented drugs and was given admission. Is that okay by you?
This guy is a real torn in the flesh for some guys on this forum.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Vs Liverpool (3 - 2) On 9th October 2022 by kilisi(m): 2:11pm On Oct 09, 2022
Arsenal will score at least four goals. So I'm predicting the match to end 4-1 or 4-2.







You can quote me anywhere!

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