Manipulating the scripture to protect Tithe by all means is now a common act in the Christendom and needs to be checked.

Especially when it comes to money issue, many men of God twist the scriptures to suit their interests, while the true message in the passage is totally lost.

In a video, Bishop David Oyedepo attached Job suffering to lack of tithing. He said Job was committed to giving liberally to the poor, but failed to pay tithe. So God blessed him but did not secure him.

The question we should ask ourselves are:
Did Job pay tithe or not?
Is it required of him to pay tithe or not?
Why did God called him Blameless if he was violating the instructions on tithing?
What are the requirements for Tithing?
Is Bishop David Oyedepo Right or Wrong?

"Challenging this common misconception that Job's suffering was a result of not paying tithes, this video delves into the biblical account of Job's story and explores how Job was presented by The LORD as a Blameless, Fineness and a man of full integrity. Job 1:8.

Even though Job wasn't living in the land of Isreal, and might likely not be an Israelites, yet God recognised Job's zeal for Him. He was better than the whole of Israel and the world at his time.

This video will also open your eyes to the fact that both Israelites and non Israelites living outside the territory God gave to the people have no business paying tithe.

Discover why tithing had nothing to do with Job's suffering or with Christianity, while we debunk this false teaching.
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There is something really disturbing in the Christendom, I know this is not common with everybody but a large percentage of Christians commit this blunder.
It's not wrong because I say so; it is because Christ himself said so and He blamed religious leaders for this evil.
Even though Christ said this over 2000 years ago, it still remains many people's reality.

Many of us are so spiritual that we miss things that matters, we neglect God's instructions and embrace superstitions in the name of religion.

I know you have Spiritual Fathers, (even though Christ warned us on this) and I also know with today's Christian folks many honour and regard their spiritual fathers even if it means disregarding their biological fathers. I have seen this many times, people don't mind disrespecting and belittling their biological parent, while they reverence and worship spiritual father. You are ready to give the whole of your income to spiritual fathers, yet you give excuses to meet your biological father's needs. And then we hide under the passage that says, seek first the Kingdom of God and its righteousness.

The truth is, seeking first the kingdom of God is not just about sleeping in church, but about putting God first in our day to day life decisions.

Today we have many who are so dedicated to church activities, they can give their lives to church events but care less about adultery, fornication, malice, hatred or the purpose for this video...their Parents.

In this passage Christ didn't even blame you for it, He blamed your spiritual fathers for focusing your attention around themselves alone, neglecting God's instructions on your Biological Parents.

Here is the Word of Christ Himself to religious leaders.

Mark 7:8-‬13 NLT
8- For you ignore God’s law and substitute your own tradition.”
9- Then he said, “You skillfully sidestep God’s law in order to hold on to your own tradition.
10- For instance, Moses gave you this law from God: ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and ‘Anyone who speaks disrespectfully of father or mother must be put to death.’
11- But you say it is all right for people to say to their parents, ‘Sorry, I can’t help you. For I have vowed to give to God what I would have given to you.
12- In this way, you let them disregard their needy parents.
13- And so you cancel the word of God in order to hand down your own tradition. And this is only one example among many others.”

Christ is the one talking here remember, not me.

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The blessing of long life is not attached to honouring your spiritual fathers even though it's not a wrong thing to do, but it's attached to your Biological Parents because they are more important to your life. Many needs to seek forgiveness from their parent. (Smile)

Seeking the Kingdom of God first, is seeking God's instructions first and it’s important we note this.

I hope this message will give joy to many neglected parents and bring blessings upon many misled children.
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Thank you.

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sonmvayina:


The story of job was written for that purpose....

Satan, devil and lucifer are all sons and daughter of God

Job 1:6 AMP
"Now there was a day when the sons of God (angels) came to present themselves before the Lord , and Satan (adversary, accuser) also came among them."

With the above verse, Satan was not addressed as part of the sons of God but the other way round.
Of course, we are aware that Lucifer was created by God until he was cast down alongside other evil angels.

Until the time of judgement the Devil is free, and his presence at God's throne doesn't make him equally yoked with God.

sonmvayina:
Believe it or not, sin was part of Gods plan from the beginning. He created us like this with the ability to commit sin(whatever that means)..He endowed us with the ability to make choices. Sin simply means making a wrong choice or missing the mark. He did so, with the hope that we will learn from it and grow...

Satan is not responsible for anything. Satan works for God and does ONLY what God tells him to do. He is very much part of Gods kingdom. Not independent nor is he a dual opposite of God..The devil has no will outside the will of God. Whatever happens, happens because it is the will of God. Whether Good or bad.

There is just nothing God created that he cant control. To think so is an insult on our creator.
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Thanks so much for your contribution. But can you please share scripture verses to back your points?

MightySparrow:




Why was Holy Ghost before someone brought the gospel you you? That everyone should grow in the corner of his house is a lie Sir. Provide a scripture to that.
2Ti.2:2; Heb.10: 25

I never said people should grow in the corner of their house and neglect the gathering of the saint. What I'm talking about is absolute reliance on Pastors without personal growth, which is affecting the spiritual development in the body of Christ today...All we have today is 'My father say, my father say..without personal encounter.
Matthew 7:15:- Beware of false prophets....
Matthew 23:8-10:- Call no man spiritual father...
Acts 17:11:- Confirming what you hear with the scriptures...
Etc..

All of the above will be impossible for a Christian without personal growth in Christ.

Kobojunkie:
Visit the following conversation for more on that please

We Are Not Under The Laws But Are Expected To Obey The Law
https://www.nairaland.com/6456638/not-under-laws-expected-obey#99831149

You hardly give Bible reference, yet you argue against scriptural references.

I'll go over the post, also you need to understand the mind of God by yourself. So, when you read people's post, don't just be excited by it, allow the Holy Spirit to reveal His purpose in your heart.

Kobojunkie:
And you see these hearts change over literally from darkness to light, right?

So those people who have your change of heart experience literally become unable to deal in darkness because of your preaching? LOL

Sorry you are not making any point.

Intro:-
Have you ever asked yourself why you pay or suffer the consequences of your Sin, even though we blame Satan for all our evil and sinful acts?

Human often blame the Devil most of the time for making us sin, we hear sentence like "It's the devils work or devil pushed me" but at the end we suffer the consequences and punishment for our own actions. And if we refuse to embrace Christ before death comes, God will cast us away into everlasting darkness.

Question
Now, the question is- if Satan is truly responsible for our sins and hell is already prepared for Him and the fallen Angels, why then do we partake in the sufferings?

Man Commits Sin, Not Satan
According to the scripture, Satan INTRODUCES sin to man. Just the way He did with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, even Jesus Christ wasn't left behind. But the truth is, we are the ones responsible for devilish act committed. And this is why the law has never and will never punish Satan for the evil we commit, the hit falls on the sinner. As a matter of facts, that's why counties have prisons and other correctional centers for human and not Satan.
Or is there any place in the scripture where God says, Oh Isrealite hath sinned, and I will punish Satan for their sins (smiling). No! Nothing like that, in most cases they ended up in severe punishment or slavery.

(Why Should Man Be Blamed?)
(Biblical Illustration)
Now, let's take the first Sin in the Garden of Eden as an example, Genesis Chapter 3 from verse 4 to 6.
In verses 4 and 5, Satan presented a convincing reason and justification for Eve to disobey God's instruction, creating all kind of stuffs in her head. But verse 6 gives us a clear picture of why Eve made that decision.

1. Coveteousness
Verse 6, Bible says:
"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desire to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat."

The first thing I saw in that verse is "Coveteouness"
Even when you have enough (all different kinds of fruit in the garden), you still desire that which is not yours.
Example: Politicians with big salary and allowance still desire that which belong to the masses. David had wives and concubines but still desires Bethsheba (Uriah's wife) 2 Samuel 11.
Desiring good things is not a sin, but acting against God in getting them is the problem. You don't care who you trample upon to get it, you don't care who suffers or what is at stake.

The Second thing in that verse is "Self Wisdom"
Today men want to be wiser and smarter than God and that has brought more evil than good. Corona Virus for instance was created out of exhibition of men's wisdom. We rejected God's wisdom. We don't want to live according to His will. Little do we know, the wiser man become of himself, the more it destroys humanity.

The Third and Main Thing is "Disobedience"
God gave them a clear instruction, "Do Not Eat From This Tree", but they disobeyed because of wishful thinking and desires, which brought sin into the world.

So with that single verse, we can see that Satan never push or force man to sin, he only pollutes our heart with reasons to commit sin, but man made the choice out of it selfish desires. One of the gateways Satan uses to establish his mission or to carry out his evil work is through man's unguided desires. Devil wrap up sin with our lust, desires, temperament etc to lure us into what we should stay away from. It then becomes a matter of truth and discipline to stay true to ourselves.

That is why it is very important to study they word of God and have understanding of the mind of God concerning things. This is where our freedom is.
Jesus said:
Matthew 4:4 AMP
But Jesus replied, “It is written and forever remains written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone , but by every word that comes out of the mouth of God .’ ”

Joshua 1:8 AMP
This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall read [and meditate on] it day and night, so that you may be careful to do [everything] in accordance with all that is written in it; for then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will be successful.

So, blaming Satan for our sins seems to be a way of escape and a kind of justification we create to live a sinful life. To hurt your brother, to steal what is not yours, fornication, adultery etc, are all works of the flesh and it's our duty as human to subject the flesh under control.

James 1:15 says: Then when lust hath conceived, it brings forth sin, and sin, when it's finished, brings forth death. It's that simple.

Let's break it down now.
Satan introduces sin to us. He doesn't push or force us to do it. But present it to us with every lust, desires and selfish justification he could find in us to make us summit to it.
But it becomes your choice to yeild to it.

So, stop blaming Satan, but instead, take responsibility for your actions.

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MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is correct!

I just want to say Heaven differ from Paradise!

Thank you for that, I appreciate.

MightySparrow:
Fallacies everywhere. God's verdicts on sex is clear. God bless Baba Adeboye.

The content is not from Baba Adeboye but from me.
We all need to grow in Christ individually and not just rely solely on pastors. Like I shared in one of my videos, the antichrist will use many of them to teach false doctrine because of our extreme loyalty to men and not the Holy Spirit. It's important to check whatever anybody says with the Holy Spirit in other to overcome deceits in the body of Christ.
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Kobojunkie:
Added? The New Covenant has about 50-something covenants is what I said... it is a sin to add or remove commandments to/from any one of God's covenants.

The commandments are found in His teachings which are contained in the 4 Gospels(Matthew , Mark, Luke and John).

I can post a link to some of the commandments later on but it would be better for you to read the Gospels to identifying them for yourself so you are aware. Matthew 5-11 contain a large chunk of His commandments in one place.

One of your major point of argument is the Old Testament and the commandments therein. You said it doesn't concerns us as Christians. Below are words of Christ, copy from the passage you shared (Matthew 5-11).

Matthew 5:17‭-‬19 AMP
17. “Do not think that I came to do away with or undo the Law [of Moses] or the [writings of the] Prophets; I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
18. For I assure you and most solemnly say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke [of the pen] will pass from the Law until all things [which it foreshadows] are accomplished.
19. So whoever breaks one of the least [important] of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, will be called least [important] in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever practices and teaches them, he will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Kobojunkie:
I never said tagging is alien to God. I said God is not interested in yourttags...He interested instead in your doing of that which He commands which includes teaching of that which He taught and not that which you think instead.

So when God says "lust" is the sin, don't go around stretching it to include homosexuality and the lot like you had since He never told you all of that. He sent you out to teach the Gospel of His Kingdom, and not the Gospel of your kingdom.

I have once asked you and I'll ask again; Are you saying Homosexual practices is allow in the kingdom of God? Please answer that question.

You are wisely trying to ignore the act and focus on words like 'Lust' which is very deceitful. Because Lust does happen between homosexuals, trangenders etc too, they lust over one another as well, lust accommodates all of the acts.

So your use of words like 'Lust' and your argument against the tag homosexual, fornication etc, to me is a clever way of accommodatingg and absorbing evil practices in the society into the Kingdom of God.

Kobojunkie:
Nah! "Soul winning" is instead the practice of recruiting new customers for to fill seats in your churches in order to increase profits for the business.

What Jesus Christ instead called His followers to doing so preaching of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, regardless of who or how many believe it.

First of all, I don't have a church and I don't plan having one, except I'm moved into it by the Holy Spirit and not for the title, fame or money.
There are lots of terrible teaching going on in some churches now that will even make it harder for believers to live by the principles and teachings of Christ. That's why I started my channel and I'm hated for it.
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-As far as I'm concerned, we wrestle not against flesh and blood (whether we like it or not, there is competition in this world between Light and Darkness), so when I preach the Gospel and people have a change of heart to follow Christ's teaching- that is a win for me. A soul as being won over to Christ from darkness, and that is my understanding of soul winning. And if you have issue with me calling it Soul Winning, it's your issue not mine .

Kobojunkie:
And another thing, Jesus Christ did not come to bring you the promise of Paradise but instead promise of the Kingdom of God( Heaven and Hell), of which Paradise is not one of.

It seems "Paradise" is a place other than the Kingdom of God, and belongs to the Old Testament.

The use of 'Paradise' in the topic was deliberate, and I won't be explaining that here.

When you read the content or watch the video, even the thumbnail description talks about heaven and not paradise. So there shouldn't be issue on that.

But I still maintain my stand, that there is no gender not sex in heaven, just has I explained in the video, backing my points with scriptures.
And if you have contrary opinion on that, let's know, back your points with scriptures references so we all can have deeper understanding.
Thank you.

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MaxInDHouse:
There will be sex and gender in Paradise but the born again Christians who are going to heaven will not taste sex again!
So there is a difference between Paradise (the new order of things on planet earth) and Heaven (where Jesus will take his 144,000 corulers)

The use of 'Paradise' in the topic was deliberate, and I won't be explaining that here.

When you read the content or watch the video, even the thumbnail description talks about heaven and not paradise. So there shouldn't be issue on that.

But I still maintain my stand, that there is no gender not sex in heaven, just has I explained in the video, backing my points with scriptures.
And if you have contrary opinion on that, let's know, back your points with scriptures references so we all can have deeper understanding.
Thank you.

Kobojunkie:
In none of the passages are you told that you would be saving souls - not a single one of them. Instead, Jesus Christ told His followers that those who believe the Gospel of the Kingdom of God are saved... not by you but by their belief in the Gospel Truth of Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ did not ask you to "save souls". Instead, He asked you to teach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God(the same one He taught to His followers), to everyone else out there. And nowhere in His teachings did He tell you that you gain points for "saving/winning souls" either.

Of course you are right, no man can save a soul, that power resides in Almighty Father; the term I intend to use is winning souls for God.
The act of going out to teach the gospel and people accepting that teaching, turning from darkness to light (Christ) is called Soul Winning.

Kobojunkie:
God gave you about 50-something commandments as part of His New Covenant and those commandments are what God has called you to accept(trust) and obey. Any other doctrines that assume to add or remove commandments from those He has set before you are lies that will only heal curses on those who follow them.

Your list which included such things as homosexuality, fornication, etc., is not according to what God gave you in His New Covenant and so by adding it , you against Him. That is why instead we are called to know the Truth( the teachings/commandments of Jesus Christ) so that the Truth will set us free from Sin by our acceptance (trust) and obedience.

You said God doesn't care about tags and names such as adultery, fornication etc.
In Matthew 5 vs 27-30 you quoted earlier, Jesus actually tagged an act to Adultery. What He did was take it beyond the mere understanding of men (thinking adultery is only when the act is committed physically), revealing that polluting our imagination with such also equals the same sin.

Also, Matthew 19:3-9 you mentioned as well, Jesus recognised the term 'divorce'. He only elaborated on the rules guiding divorce and establish that it wasn't so from the beginning, because husband and wife are one and shouldn't be put asunder.

So your idea that tagging is alien to God is absurd, because acts are tagged, and Christ also use those tags to establish His teachings.

Kobojunkie:
God gave you about 50-something commandments as part of His New Covenant and those commandments are what God has called you to accept(trust) and obey. Any other doctrines that assume to add or remove commandments from those He has set before you are lies that will only heal curses on those who follow them.

Your list which included such things as homosexuality, fornication, etc., is not according to what God gave you in His New Covenant and so by adding it , you against Him. That is why instead we are called to know the Truth( the teachings/commandments of Jesus Christ) so that the Truth will set us free from Sin by our acceptance (trust) and obedience.

Can I ask you,
-what are the 50 something commandments added to the New Testament?
-What are the teaching of Christ that He asked us to trust and obey?

Kobojunkie:
Your obsession with sex has nothing to do with anything I said in my stated in my comment there.

Maybe you should check the topic again from the beginning. This whole thread starts and centers on it.

Kobojunkie:
Be sure of one thing and that is one thing... Jesus Christ did not call you to save humanity or souls. That lie maybe what you have been told by the many false prophets and preachers out there but not by Jesus Christ. He called you to educate you on the agreement between God and you, told you to die to your ego and carry only that which is your cross(not your family's , or your children's, or even your neighbors, but only that which is yours) if you want to become worthy of Him. Even after that, you are to continue accepting and obeying His commandments by the lead of the Spirit of God, doing, not your will, but the Will of God as laid down by His Spirit where His Kingdom, not Man's kingdom, is concerned.

You want scriptural backing, read through the 4 Gospels.

I said, back your points with scriptures, you have refused to do that.
You can't just be saying what you feel, or what you were told without scriptural references.
Where is it written that Jesus Christ asked us not to save souls

Kobojunkie:
Be sure of one thing and that is one thing... Jesus Christ did not call you to save humanity or souls. That lie maybe what you have been told by the many false prophets and preachers out there but not by Jesus Christ. He called you to educate you on the agreement between God and you, told you to die to your ego and carry only that which is your cross(not your family's , or your children's, or even your neighbors, but only that which is yours) if you want to become worthy of Him. Even after that, you are to continue accepting and obeying His commandments by the lead of the Spirit of God, doing, not your will, but the Will of God as laid down by His Spirit where His Kingdom, not Man's kingdom, is concerned.

You want scriptural backing, read through the 4 Gospels.

Seriously, I don't know where your teaching of the scriptures is coming from o!
How can you say Jesus didn't ask us to save souls?
We have been save to save others.

Matthew 10:5‭-‬15 AMP
5. Jesus sent out these twelve, instructing them: “Do not go among the Gentiles, and do not go into a city of the Samaritans;
6. but rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
7. And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’
8. Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.
9. Do not take gold, or silver, or [even] copper money in your money belt,
10. or a provision bag for your journey, or even two tunics, or sandals, or a staff; for the worker deserves his support.
11. Whatever city or village you enter, ask who in it is worthy [who welcomes you and your message], and stay at his house until you leave [that city].
12. As you go into the house, give it your greeting [that is, ‘Peace be to this house’].
13. If [the family living in] the house is worthy [welcoming you and your message], give it your [blessing of] peace [that is, a blessing of well-being and prosperity, the favor of God]. But if it is not worthy, take back your blessing of peace.
14. Whoever does not welcome you, nor listen to your message, as you leave that house or city, shake the dust [of it] off your feet [in contempt, breaking all ties].
15. assure you and most solemnly say to you, it will be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that city [since it rejected the Messiah’s messenger].


Mark 16:15‭-‬18 AMP
15. And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.
16. He who has believed [in Me] and has been baptized will be saved [from the penalty of God’s wrath and judgment]; but he who has not believed will be condemned.
17. These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak in new tongues;
18. they will pick up serpents, and if they drink anything deadly, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will get well.”


Matthew 28:18‭-‬20 AMP
18. Jesus came up and said to them, “All authority (all power of absolute rule) in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.
19. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations [help the people to learn of Me, believe in Me, and obey My words], baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20. teaching them to observe everything that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always [remaining with you perpetually—regardless of circumstance, and on every occasion], even to the end of the age.”

Kobojunkie:
You are not called to preach the words of Paul, or any other doctrines or traditions of men, all of which Jesus declared as lies when put beside His teachings(Truth). You are instead commanded to teach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, as Jesus Christ taught them to His followers. Anything else is not his Truth and hence not of Him.

So what are the teaching of His kingdom in neglecting humanity and standard of God for us? Please back your point with Scriptural passages.

Kobojunkie:
I am not the one mixing things up here. God does not care about your name tags - homosexuality, fornication, etc. He doesn't. What He commands of you is simple...
A. It is His rule or the highway! In fact, He even turned things on their head as far as your labels are concerned, when He deems that instead the word "adultery" means divorcing your wife for the wrong reason, and "marrying" another woman.
Your right standing with God depends on your accepting(trusting) and obeying His teachings/commandments, not yours!
I am sorry what?
First of all, from your birth, the Old Covenant had absolutely nothing to do with you, since you are not of the Blood of Jacob. So don't even consider bringing it up at all. Second, Jesus Christ made it clear when He told a bunch of Jewish sinners that in order to be free from sin, they must first accept(trust) and obey His teachings/commandments. He never told them they first needed the Spirit of God first in order to submit their egos.NO, Jesus Christ said, if you want to submit, you must accept(trust) and obey His commandments/teachings, and only then will He(through His Spirit) come in to abide in such a one who has submitted.

The Law, as far as Gentiles are concerned, is embodied in the person of Jesus Christ, His teachings constitute the Truth of God as far as the Kingdom of God is concerned. And so, His Law defines for us what Sin is - not the Old Covenant - and His teachings instruct us on what we must do to free ourselves from slavery to sin, in order that we may become Sons of God. So, anyone who believes in Him but refuses to accept(trust) and obey His teachings/commandments, is not of Him but the devil(Read John 8 vs 37-47 for more on this)

I don't see us saying different thing here.
You mentioned trust and obeying God's Commandments which as been mentioned too.

And about tagging:
It's true our soul is the most important thing to God, because it controls every other things. It also determine the kind of spirit we attracts.

The reverse of trust and obey equals sin, and sin means disobeying God's instructions or direction which relates with human actions. Human negative actions are tagged by name.

For example: If a man forcefully make love to a woman, the act is against God's will or commandment as you mentioned; and in human realm the act is called Rape.
Are you saying it is wrong to tag that disobedience
act Rape just because God doesn't care about tagging?

In Romans 1:24-29, Apostle Paul talked about s*xual perversion and he tagged them. Are you saying he is wrong for doing so?

Kobojunkie:
We begin here on earth with the Kingdom of God, and so when Jesus Christ says that there are no genders, race, creed, color, etc. as far as His Kingdom is concerned, He implies that those who belong to the Kingdom begin here and now to live according to those beliefs. Not just wait till when you get to Heaven to start practicing them.

What am I saying this to mean? I am saying in your daily lives, even in your so-called gatherings, you are meant not to differentiate between sexes, races/tribes, nationality, color, etc. You are

Of course, there is no discrimination in Christ, but that doesn't mean sin is allowed in God's Holy Kingdom.

Romans 14:17: The kingdom of God is Righteousness, Peace and Joy in the Holy Ghost (a reflection of heaven). And this is what we are expected to sought after on earth, in our relationship with men and God. And that never invalidates God's standard for man in this world.

-Christ also lived like human and not angel, keeping all rules in God's standards for human.

Christ never asked us to practice unhealthy and unnatural sex life in any way (as you are trying to insinuate). As a matter of fact, He will prefer we remain single (for those God gave such capacity) and channel our strength to God in service and worship. Matthew 19:10-12

-Christ is concerned about marriages here on earth: Matthew 19:1-9
- Paul talked about s*x perversion: Romans 1:24-29

What Christ has done for us is the grace through the help of the Holy Spirit to walk in the guidelines of God and connect us back in fellowship.

Billyonaire666:
There is sex and gender in spirit world. There are also androgynous beings, it is a choice.

If you havent been there or have deeper knowledge of it via soul travel, do not teach rubbish.

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Which of these can you proof by the Word of God?


I don't need soul travel to understand the scriptures, all I need is to meditate on the word of God and allow the Holy Spirit illuminate my heart.

Soul travel can only relate with your imagination, which might never be true.

Kobojunkie:
God gave you about 50-something commandments as part of His New Covenant and those commandments are what God has called you to accept(trust) and obey. Any other doctrines that assume to add or remove commandments from those He has set before you are lies that will only heal curses on those who follow them.

Your list which included such things as homosexuality, fornication, etc., is not according to what God gave you in His New Covenant and so by adding it , you against Him. That is why instead we are called to know the Truth( the teachings/commandments of Jesus Christ) so that the Truth will set us free from Sin by our acceptance (trust) and obedience.

I think you're mixing things up here and I want to understand you better.
If I'm getting you right, are you trying to say that people can practice homos*xual, fornication etc and still maintain right standing with God?

Christ said He has not come to abolish the law but to fulfil it. And with the help of the Holy Spirit our soul is guided in submission to the will of God, which establishes our relationship and fellowship with Him.
Obviously, s*xual sins are not acceptable in the New Life either. The law was given to guide the soul of men into God's standard for us and Christ also came to fulfil that, laying and teaching kingdom principles; which definitely still guide our ways on earth before we can qualify for eternity with him.

Kobojunkie:


Actually, God is not concerned about your list there. Instead, He is focused on your heart and what you have in it instead.
In His Kingdom, it doesn't matter whether you are a parent or not, and it does not matter what other relationship status - what matters is your acceptance(trust) and obedience of His commandments which are found in the Gospel life and teachings of Jesus Christ.

I actually did a video on Matthew 22 you quoted, you might be interested in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nw5OgXpU7Q

Of course, you are very correct. God is concern about our heart in accordance to the standard He sets for us as human, which includes our way of life, relationships with one another, right s*xual life.

Man cannot live the way he likes thinking God is not concern about it. Because our heart and ways must reverence the Almighty Father.

Today, I just want to answer a quick question a friend asked. I already put it in a video; also, for the sake of those who might have similar question at heart I decided to put it out here too, so we all can be blessed from it.

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nw5OgXpU7Q

The question he asked is about our sexuality in the afterlife, he said:
"Bro, do you believe in the idea that we remain male and female in heaven, because some people wey give account of their vision of heaven maintained this stand. You know we are all learning oo".

My Answer Is No!
We are neither male nor female in the realm of the spirit and the scriptures made it clear, also, our experiences in this world made that clear also. We are all spirit being with soul living in a house, or should I say, we are eternal spirit with soul, this body we are in is only necessary for our physical manifestation here, and we are to function accordingly.

Gender is only necessary as a matter of our functionality, i.e. The Almighty Father designed this world to function in a certain way and the flesh which houses the spirit is needed for it to be realistic. But originally, we are spirit being, so there is neither male nor female in the realm of the spirit, and the lust of the flesh and its desires ends here. For instance, you don't have urge for sex in the realm of the spirit, but for something different. You don't have desires for cars and material things, because spirit moves in the speed of light. You know, just by their imagination to be somewhere, they are there immediately.

Let's look at the account of creation to tap inspiration;
In Genesis 2:7 the bible says:

He formed man from the dust of the ground i.e. the flesh came from the dust of the ground.
He breathed the breath of life into the man's nostrils- This means,the breath of life which is the spirit being in man came from God directly and not from the ground, it was after the breath that man became a living person, a completion of body and spirit.

So the physical structure of man is from the dust of the ground; male or female, and the bible says in Genesis 3:19, that man will return or turn back to that dust. That's the flesh is going back to where it came from and the spirit return to God the giver of life. So the spirit is neither male nor female, but the body is.

Genesis 3:19 AMP
By the sweat of your face You will eat bread Until you return to the ground, For from it you were taken; For you are dust, And to dust you shall return.”

Another biblical example was sighted by Christ Himself in is response to a question in Matthew 22 vs 23-30.
The Lawyer said, according to Moses, if a man dies without children, his brother should marry the widow and have child to bear the brother's name. Suppose he had seven brother and they all had her before they died, whose wife will she be in the resurrection. At least they all married her.

Then Christ responded by saying:
Matthew 22:30 AMP
For in the resurrection neither do men marry nor are women given in marriage, but they are like angels in heaven [who do not marry nor produce children].
And I'm sure you haven't heard of female angels in heaven, expect for we calling our sweetheart angel here on earth. You can't romance the real Angels in their glorious bodies.

I hope this answer the question, feel free to drop your thought in the comment section, and don't forget to like and share.

Love you guys, bye.

loveandmatters:
Powerful video. God bless you sir

I believe that blessed you.
Thank you and God bless you too.

Kobojunkie:
See Christian posting Leviticus to justify nonsense teaching.

Jesus Christ was clear in His teaching that marriages were of this world, and not His Kingdom. That means whatever sex position you choose is also of this world and has nothing to do with Him or His Kingdom.

Translation....God has given you freedom from laws in these things so enjoy as you want and don't let men deceive you into thinking God is concerned with such things in His Kingdom.

First, can you please include the Bible passage you're quoting from, please?
Because you are literally saying God is not concern about adultery, fornication, homos*xuality, beatiality, s*x with parent etc.
I think there is something you want to justify by your comments ignoring Leviticus. Don't miss interpret the scriptures.