₦airaland Forum

ODVanguard:
That chap is living in a fool's paradise. I guess his kind won't wake-up until the Northerners give Yoruba people an ultimatum as well. Maybe then he will receive sense.

Living in fool's paradise or talking like a fool.

You just gotta check some people's post history to confirm their village address.

How can an enlightened Yoruba be on this thread and still be instigating one-Nigeria?

Awon mofos.

He wants to live with murderous herdsmen and toutish flat head pigs. Na his kind dey entertain flat head governor in Lagos all in the name of one Nigeria.

ModsWillKillNL:
Is it my villagers that started the Ife Modakeke crisis?

Come on.

Did you hear about Operation Wetie in the west?

Were Yorubas the only ones warring amongst themselves back then when the number of educated individuals in each village could be counted with ones fingers/toes?

I'm simply asking if you and your villagers plan to set off an intra-tribal war WHEN Nigeria separates.

Your unity begging is beginning to not only irritate me, but other well-meaning Yorubas on this thread.

9jakool:
Yorubaland is stable enough to attain its full potential. Most of the religious and political strives plaguing much of Nigeria are not common in Yorubaland. An independent Yoruba state has a full potential to succeed. It's perhaps one of the least exploited areas in Nigeria. Yorubas have the longest coastline of any ethnic groups in Nigeria. Do you know how many mineral deposits like gold and iron ore found in Yorubaland? Do you know the billions of barrels of untapped hard oil found in the bitumen deposit of Ondo state. Do you know how much arable farming land is in Oyo, Kwara, and Ogun states? Do you know that most of the limestone deposit and cement production in Nigeria can be found in Yorubaland. Do you know that the largest cement plant in the whole of Africa, the Obajana cement plant is in Yorubaland?

You can consider the immense potential that can come from agriculture and cash crops alone like rubber, cocoa, oil palm, banana, orange, coffee, sugarcane, and cotton. The cocoa produced during the autonomous Western region was the reason why Nigeria was the largest cocoa producer in the world exporting cocoa to the various Western countries. Today, due to the neglect of the Nigerian government, the country has fallen to fourth place behind Indonesia. The same thing happen with the production of oil palm, which Nigeria was the largest producer, but has now been surpassed by Indonesia and Malaysia.

Back in the 1960s and 1970s, the same Indonesia and Malaysia used to come to Western Nigeria to take back saplings to their home countries. The oil palm isn't even native to Indonesia and Malaysia, but the west coast of Africa and yet these people are the largest producers after decades of investment in their agriculture and neglects of Nigeria's. The cocoa house, the only sky scrapper in Nigeria at the time and the tallest in Africa at the time was erected by the cocoa proceeds from the region under Odu'a Investment Company Ltd. Back then, it was referred to as "ile awon agbe."



When you look at a vintage picture of western Nigeria in the 70's and compare it to now, one always seems to wonder what happened along the way. For one, unemployment and poverty was lower then compared to now. The quality of education, security, health, and life was better. Isn't it that as a society ages, its people progresses. Why is it the reverse in Nigeria?

Information is knowledge.

9jakool:
Yorubaland is stable enough to attain its full potential. Most of the religious and political strives plaguing much of Nigeria are not common in Yorubaland. An independent Yoruba state has a full potential to succeed. It's perhaps one of the least exploited areas in Nigeria. Yorubas have the longest coastline of any ethnic groups in Nigeria. Do you know how many mineral deposits like gold and iron ore found in Yorubaland? Do you know the billions of barrels of untapped hard oil found in the bitumen deposit of Ondo state. Do you know how much arable farming land is in Oyo, Kwara, and Ogun states? Do you know that most of the limestone deposit and cement production in Nigeria can be found in Yorubaland. Do you know that the largest cement plant in the whole of Africa, the Obajana cement plant is in Yorubaland?

You can consider the immense potential that can come from agriculture and cash crops alone like rubber, cocoa, oil palm, banana, orange, coffee, sugarcane, and cotton. The cocoa produced during the autonomous Western region was the reason why Nigeria was the largest cocoa producer in the world exporting cocoa to the various Western countries. Today, due to the neglect of the Nigerian government, the country has fallen to fourth place behind Indonesia. The same thing happen with the production of oil palm, which Nigeria was the largest producer, but has now been surpassed by Indonesia and Malaysia.

Back in the 1960s and 1970s, the same Indonesia and Malaysia used to come to Western Nigeria to take back saplings to their home countries. The oil palm isn't even native to Indonesia and Malaysia, but the west coast of Africa and yet these people are the largest producers after decades of investment in their agriculture and neglects of Nigeria's. The cocoa house, the only sky scrapper in Nigeria at the time and the tallest in Africa at the time was erected by the cocoa proceeds from the region under Odu'a Investment Company Ltd. Back then, it was referred to as "ile awon agbe."

When you look at a vintage picture of western Nigeria in the 70's and compare it to now, one always seems to wonder what happened along the way. For one, unemployment and poverty was lower then compared to now. The quality of education, security, health, and life was better. Isn't it that as a society ages, its people progresses. Why is it the reverse in Nigeria?

More brilliant post.

NL keeps chasing away people like this Soon all Seu.n will have are flat heads claiming to dominate NL. I no kuku pity am before.

ModsWillKillNL:
Unity begging?

Come on, stop sounding like the flatiyeasterners.

Nigeria belongs to us.

Nobody is holding us down.

We once had Western Region. You know how it ended.

Awolowo and Akintola tore the West apart.

Yes, you're unity begging.

What do you call someone that begs for unity, can't envision the success of his own country?

What do y'all call yourselves in your beer parlor gatherings?

When was that? Pre or post Nigeria?

If I recall correctly, Awolowo had his people's best interest at heart. He fought for his people. The unfortunate set back of the Yoruba nation are the unity beggars and the so called FFKs.

oduastates:
I am happy to see that people are beginning to see what a few of us saw a long time ago .

Facts -
1 Nigeria is living on borrowed time .

2 With the way the country manufactures illiteracy and poverty, it is bound to happen

3 I do not want yorubaland to hang around when Climate change hits ( those herdsmen are coming from places where it has already hit . The way they herd their cattle with no respect for their he land accelerates the process)


4 overpopulation and extreme levels of birth rate means that the little land available will not be enough to sustain the inhabitants

5 The lack of separation of power culture in virtually all the other ethnic groups . Which means that dissent is not tolerated , protest can cost you your life

Thanks for bringing the bolded up.

Everyone in Nigeria runs to the SW for sanctuary.

Oyo state has high number of Hausa-Fulani beggars running from the North, and many more running from Islamic extremists. Flat heads are all over the SW from Lagos to Ibadan in order to survive. Everyone coming to the SW, yet when we ask for more allocations to build infrastructures that will sustain these high migration, they call us parasites. Yet the parasites are the ones running from their home to survive on our land.

A Yoruba country will be able to mitigate high immigration through visa process and deportation.

ModsWillKillNL:
Non Yorubas are also viewing this thread.

It's not advisable.

But how do we handle bloody rivalries that will engulf our region going by historical precedence?

Are you and your villagers the ones that will initiate the bloody rivaries that will engulf your region?

ODVanguard:
My sis, the truth is that Nigeria is only living on borrowed time, either way we want to look at it. It's like asking why the need for this particular thread afterall, if we can't live without one another? This thread is a reinforcement of our SEPARATE IDENTITY compared to the Igbos. History and the Nigerian experiment has shown that we can't live together in the same country with them -- not that we haven't tried anyway, but their domineering tendencies will never allow us be at peace with one another. We will definitely make better neighbours as separate countries coz then there'll be no need to chest-beat or heat up the polity over who rules over whom, and we'll respect each other's boundaries, something that WILL NEVER happen within 'One Nigeria', no matter the 'restructuring' -- as it stands, if all igbos decide to relocate to the SW, we Yorubas can't do shyt about it all in the name of 'One Nigeria'.

But as separate countries we'll both respect ourselves and our boundaries and will be free to deport any troublemaker in our midst without having to apologize for sending their destitutes littering our region back to Anambra or wherever they may come from.

The 'Big Three' tribes will always be at each other's throat trying to dominate one another. Nigeria has proved since independence that we all can't live as a nation. #Fact. This parasitic relationship that currently exists is not sustainable, and will only continue to breed hatred and animousity.

Yorubas are an homogeneous group of people with contiguous borders and a common origin (ile-ife). No such commonality exists amongst the 'Nigerians', which is why Nigeria has been finding it extremely difficult to truly unite as there are no real ties that bind us. All Yorubas share culture, food, dressing, language, etc in common. Again, I emphasize that such commonality and homogeneity doesn't exist amongst Nigerians in general and that's why there can't be any real unity.

This unity begging from some of our folks is just too embarrassing please. Let's even pretend, for the sake of pride, that we too can stand on our own if need be abeg. Or must the rest of Nigeria kick us out before we grow some pride as a people??

I want to expand on this down a bit more:

Why Yorubas and Nigerians are so different:

1. We're not fanatics - We believe in democracy - ability to have different perspective, if your perspective makes sense.

2. We're religiously tolerant - You can be Muslims, Christians, Traditionalist or whatever you choose. North is extremely Islam and SE is extremely Christians with some Jewish wannabes.

3. We're very dipolomatic in everything we do - sometimes this is our shortcomings.

4. We live in peace with the foreigners in our midst and with our hosts [other countries like Ghana].

5. We don't boast about our success - this is important in a free market economy.

6. We believe in Justice - If you like, be Sango, if you commit crime you go pay. There's no such thing as "our son".

ModsWillKillNL:
There are a few of them.

But isn't that good enough?

I'm sure you can list them and tell us why they're an important asset of the Yoruba interest.

ODVanguard:
My sis, the truth is that Nigeria is only living on borrowed time, either way we want to look at it. It's like asking why the need for this particular thread afterall, if we can't live without one another? This thread is a reinforcement of our SEPARATE IDENTITY compared to the Igbos. History and the Nigerian experiment has shown that we can't live together in the same country with them -- not that we haven't tried anyway, but their domineering tendencies will never allow us be at peace with one another. We will definitely make better neighbours as separate countries coz then there'll be no need to chest-beat or heat up the polity over who rules over whom, and we'll respect each other's boundaries, something that WILL NEVER happen within 'One Nigeria', no matter the 'restructuring' -- as it stands, if all igbos decide to relocate to the SW, we Yorubas can't do shyt about it all in the name of 'One Nigeria'.

But as separate countries we'll both respect ourselves and our boundaries and will be free to deport any troublemaker in our midst without having to apologize for sending their destitutes littering our region back to Anambra or wherever they may come from.

The 'Big Three' tribes will always be at each other's throat trying to dominate one another. Nigeria has proved since independence that we all can't live as a nation. #Fact. This parasitic relationship that currently exists is not sustainable, and will only continue to breed hatred and animousity.

Yorubas are an homogeneous group of people with contiguous borders and a common origin (ile-ife). No such commonality exists amongst the 'Nigerians', which is why Nigeria has been finding it extremely difficult to truly unite as there are no real ties that bind us. All Yorubas share culture, food, dressing, language, etc in common. Again, I emphasize that such commonality and homogeneity doesn't exist amongst Nigeria in general and that's why there can't be any real unity.

This unity begging from some of our folks is just too embarrassing please. Let's even pretend, for the sake of pride, that we too can stand on our own if need be abeg. Or must the rest of Nigeria kick us out before we grow some pride as a people??

Beautifully written!!

ezeagu:
How much rice does Nigeria export versus palm oil in the SE?

Look:


https://www.nairaland.com/3978186/palm-oil-production-states-nigeria

Nigeria exports 0 tons of rice, according to indexMundi. This isn't including how much palm oil and rice is used within Nigeria, obviously. Of course, this is nothing compared to Malaysia's 21 million metric tons of palm oil exports.

Nothing in the links you posted suggested that the palm oils exported are from the SE.

Why do y'all enjoy the lies?

totit:
The emboldened doesn't even make any sense, and I can't remember mentioning that in any of my comment on here.
By the way, may I remind you again that these..thread is all about regional capacity and production

Thiiiiik yuuuuu

And someone will come here to rant about one Nigeria.

We're living with people who don't even know where they come from, trying too hard to claim Jews, while the Jews community denies them. We're living with nomads who don't want to enter the 21st century, with little to no education.

We're being governed by idiots like Fayose and Buhari. We live in a country where imbe.ciles like FFK call themselves leaders.

Yoruba language is studied in 47 American varsities

While there is no incentive for the promotion of Yoruba language and more and more native speakers of the language are losing their native tongues, American government and its citizens are ironically spending huge resources and time to gain both fluency and immersion in the languages and cultures which the natives are ditching. Assistant Editor ADEKUNLE YUSUF reports.

IT was early in the day, but the young lads were already thirsty to sip from an array of the menu that formed the business of the day. From the exultant mood boldly etched on their faces, it is obvious that they had all kept the date jealously in their diaries. They were all tenth graders, drawn from public schools in Dane Country, Madison, Wisconsin, United States (US), all eager to gain from a week-long event to make them more knowledgeable about other cultures. That was July 28, 2011, and the event, a yearly ritual, was to let students have a sip of the languages, foods and cultures of the Yoruba, Swahili, Chinese, French and Russian.

Read More http://whatsupibadan.com/2013/11/16/yoruba-language-is-studied-in-47-american-varsities-says-ui-don/

Examples:

Yoruba Language - Harvard https://alp.fas.harvard.edu/yoruba

At Stanford - https://language.stanford.edu/programs/ame/languages/yoruba/courses

At Yale - http://cls.yale.edu/yoruba

Yoruba Spreading In Scandinavia- Scandinavian Schools Endorse Yoruba Language


Scandinavian countries – Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland – have approved the teaching of Yoruba language in their schools. Yoruba is predominantly spoken in South West Nigeria, and neighboring Benin Republic, by more than 40 Million people.

The Scandinavia countries gave the approval late in 2014 but it was disclosed by Victor Mobolaji Adewale, the Sweden coordinator of the Oodua Progressive Union (OPU), during the Europe meeting of the Union which held in Istanbul, Turkey.
Adewale, who also emerged as the deputy coordinator of the group in Europe, said the approval followed the launch of the union in Sweden on November 29, 2014, which was attended by government officials from the Scandinavian countries who thereafter approved the teaching of Yoruba language in their schools.

He said the union also has the OPU radio functioning in the Scandinavian countries, using it as a medium of popularising the Yoruba language and reaching out to people of like minds. “We are happy to report that the Yoruba language has got the approval of the authorities for it to be taught in schools in the Scandinavian countries. It is a major breakthrough for us in popularizing our mother tongue. We look forward to doing more,” Adewale said.
Otunba Gani Adams, convener of the OPU and National coordinator of the Oodua Peoples Congress (OPC), who expressed happiness at the development, said one of the reasons for the summit was capacity building. Adams advised the Europe chapters of the OPU to be aggressive in expanding their coasts by establishing more chapters.
He said the duty and responsibility of the European chapter should be to cover 25 countries out of the 28 in Europe.

He said the OPU can use Europe as a base to mobilise others.
Adams said at the meeting that OPU was now present in 56 countries, adding: “Protecting the image of Nigeria is important. Liaise with the embassies, the Missions of Nigeria in all the countries where you are based. They are the representatives of Nigeria out here.” Adams also implored the members of the OPU to operate with singleness of purpose, adding: “If there is no unity, nothing can be achieved. We are building the OPU for the benefit of the Yoruba. We will soon expand strongly in America.”


http://dailyindependentnig.com/2015/05/scandinavian-countries-teach-yoruba-language-schools/
http://allafrica.com/stories/201505120649.html
http://www.newsentinel.com.ng/scandinavian-countries-okay-teaching-of-yoruba-language-in-schools/



www.nairaland.com/attachments/2401864_screenshot20150512at1_jpegc245bde98f7897cd1dcf6284abb958e9

Ondo's coastline - the largest coastline in West Africa


https://www.nairaland.com/3547841/nairalanders-visit-araromi-seaside-ondo

Markfemi2:
right to open our economy to tourist
right to enjoy our sea line and border force
right to set up our own airline trade with our kiths in brazil
chai chai

More than 47 top US universities teach the Yoruba language, European countries have also added Yorubas into their curriculum. Yoruba descendants of Brazil, Santeria worshipers of Cuba, Descendants in the Caribean countries like Haiti and Trinadad & Tobego etc.

Think of what we'll gain if we open our borders for tourism.

We aint just talking about cultural tourism o, think of opening resorts in Ogun and Ondo's shoreline, in addition with what we have in Lagos.

Gosh everytime I think of the possibility, I hate this country called Nigeria and our smesme so-called leaders.


https://i1.wp.com/thenationonlineng.net/new/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/yoruba2-600x330.jpg

ODVanguard:
Gosh, did you just ask this?? Is Nigeria after all these years politically stable? This is unity begging at its worst form. It's like saying Yorubas can't live without Igbo's or Hausas. It's this sort of embarassing unity begging that makes us butt of jokes[b]. There are many Yoruba enterpreneurs that are doing great in Ghana as well as other neighboring countries without qualms, so who says we can't be good neighbours with the others while doing business with one another? [/b]

The entire population of Kenya (East Africa's largest economy) is barely 40-million and yet it's doing great, even though their economy is only barely the size of Lagos (that doesn't even include the rest of the SW).

Even the Northerners have said they are not afraid to stand alone so why this unity begging for goodness sakes??

Do you expect someone like him to know that having a Yoruba country doesn't necessarily mean that we can't have diplomatic relationship with other countries? Many of the Yoruba businesses on this thread have companies located in other countries.

No country stands alone. Having a Yoruba country simply means that we have all rights to govern and develop ourselves at our own pace. i.e Yorubas can emphasis on tourism, cultural exploration, natural resource exploration etc.

Hate is a strong word, it's a feeling I don't like entertaining. But....If na say I hate pesin, na unity begging Yorubas who are so ignorant of Yoruba success and commonwealth. Everything falls back on Nigeria's dilapidated education system.

Nigga is even quoting kiriji war...... o ma se. Are y'all still living in stoneages?

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Deedeedee5:
The guy is lost. There are man y Yorubas like him. We need to open their eyes.

It's quite unfortunate. Very depressing. Almost makes you want to lose hope.

ModsWillKillNL:
Hahahaha

The day Yoruba become independent, you will know there are many nations among us.

Scholes0, come and get your brother.

ModsWillKillNL:
Hahahaha

The day Yoruba become independent, you will know there are many nations among us.

Ain't this the same deji7 from that Ibadan thread?

I'm not surprised anymore. The kind of children wey people dey breed nowadays.

ModsWillKillNL:
You guys are behaving like kids.

Did you hear of the Kiriji war?

Why is Ilorin an emirate today?

Are those your reasons? Why should Yorubas remain in Nigeria?

ODVanguard:
It's pretty clear from the awesome job that the likes of hilroy, deomelo, laudate and the rest of our prolific posters are doing on this thread that Yorubas run well organized & structured companies that operate in line with international best practices. So much so that you can quite easily access, compile or put together their company profiles as well as the profiles of the individuals behind them by doing a simple online search about them.

Our lousy neighbours on the other hand have run out of REAL entrepreneurs . Therefore they have resorted to making up fictitious 'companies', putting up igbo employees as owners of non-igbo owned companies, including Okoro & son 2x2 shops, or infinitely repeating innoson, teragro, Linda Ikeji and the likes to keep their thread going. Odikwa egwu o.

I'm actually highly disappointed that our posters here helped them reached 50pages talk less of 100 pages.

When you think you're doing someone but you're only doing yourself.

Everything is about perspective.

ODVanguard:
Restructuring is only a worst case scenario option for us in my opinion. Ideally we ought to be an independent/sovereign country. Yoruba's are too big not to have their own country. In fact it's tantamount to an insult to suggest that a people numbering as much as over 40-million can't stand alone.

We can have good neighbourly relationships with other neighbouring countries and ethnicities. As a matter of fact we would fare better that way coz then we will be able to control our own borders and resources too. One Nigeria is holding us back from attaining our full potentials as a people. We shouldn't have to depend on permission from Abuja or some other place to get things done as is currently obtainable.

Tell am o.

Every time I see a unity begging Yoruba, I feel like spraying him with a bottled atomic bomb.

Yoruba is not a tribe, were a nation. We're found in several African countries. Beyond boundaries. We're a belief, an idea and a way of life.

bfmconcepts:
this government, lies and propaganda are triplet

How is the government lying? How can a set of people share one common opinion?

"Anyone not supporting Biafra is Yoruba. Anyone from the SS or SE supporting Buhari is paid" - Pigs and Piglets.

This mentality is neither democratic nor tolerant.

We can't all share the same opinion. Leave a leg room for a different perspective.

I thank God I'm Yoruba every day. My people balance things out.

The fanacism in the North and SE leaves much to be desired.

Deedeedee5:
Yoruba people can do better without Nigeria. American multinational companies are doing great. Aren't they?

The thing just weak me.

How can someone have access to the internet and still think the way he does?

ModsWillKillNL:
I don't subscribe to that.

We shall fare better in Nigeria especially if the country is restructured.

Gosh!!

These annoying unity beggars that don't contribute to anything Yoruba, but still believes Yorubas are better off in Nigeria.

If we ask them to give their reasons, we no go hear anything sensible.

Please find another thread to preach one Nigeria.

So annoying!!

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I'm backkkkkkkk!!!!!

Been MIA, make I catch up.

This is 2015 information.

Things can change in 1 or 10 years.

scholes0:
For a long time, Nigerians have always been talking and discussing about the need to become food sufficient, especially in some of our most imported agricultural products such as Rice, Wheat, Sugar Etc. So much Ado has been ado concerning the topic, but have you at anytime wondered which states are the top performance in terms of rice production?
Nigeria is one of the largest Rice importing countries in the world. Nigerians' appetite for rice means that the country imported nearly 17 million tonnes of it over the past five years. Duties for imported rice are currently at 60% and consumers have seen the price of a bag of rice double in the past 12 months.

According to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO), the country imported 2.3 million tonnes in 2016, about half of the country's estimated requirements.
The most recent nationwide covering data from all regions of the federation from the Nigerian Agric sector report shows that these are the top Rice producing states and regions in the country.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4385/36389721945_f8f4c92cb5_c.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4394/36389721175_a85e742e30_b.jpg

According to the, 29 of the 36 states of the country engaged in the cultivation of Rice, with total cultivated areas amounting to 2,432.63 thousand Hectares of land, while n average of 4,472.52 metric tons of rice was produced by all the states.

Largest Rice Producing States: (in 000/metric Tons)

1- Kaduna State - 732.42 Metric Tons
2- Ogun State - 636.67 Metric Tons
3- Kano State - 422.05 Metric Tons
4- Taraba State - 401.99 Metric Tons
5- Benue State - 341.48 Metric Tons

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4299/36201617785_3bf459e132_b.jpg

Largest Rice Producing Regions:

1- North West - 32% of Production
2- North East - 25% of Production
3- North Central - 17% of Production
4- South West - 16% of Production
5- South East - 9% of Production
6- South South - 1% of Production

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4305/35812549080_aef116c7bb_b.jpg

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-38795673

The Nigerian Agric sectr report:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=Nigeria+agric+sector+report&oq=Nigeria+agric+sector+report&gs_l=psy-ab.3...2476.2476.0.2950.1.1.0.0.0.0.302.302.3-1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0.r8y10RQGs68

pazienza:
The link I provided were all legit and from independent sources.
Not one produced by an Afonja Muslim by the name Sule.

You always resort to afonja muslim when you're grabbing at straw. It's becoming old and trite.

The question is, how old are the information in the links you provided? Simple.