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IJOBA2:
ARE YOU ONE OF THEM

Learn to focus on Biafra and less on religious fanaticism and Yorubas. How will that help Biafra?

totit:
You guys failed to detect what I saw from afar some hour ago. Anyway, he should be gone now as justice has been served.

It's a trick to run this thread down and have it shut down eventually, and ya' all fall for it earlier
He's probably one of those yorubanised ibo, the dude should be Collins am..adi ,base in ijebu, ogun state he's quite fluent in yoruba as well. I don tey for nl

Let's not ignore the fact that we have Yoruba unity beggars too, just like Ibos have their own. They must be addressed.

Guestlander:
You sound like a jilted lover who couldn't stop talking about her ex.
Comedian embraces IPOB but somehow you must inject "Yoruba Muslim" to it. These Yoruba Muslims must be so powerful to hold your fate in the palm of their hands.

Ibos need to check the religious fanatics growing amongst them just like the Neo-Nazis growing in the USA.

The extreme hate is bothersome.

IJOBA2:
SEE PAINMENT

The only painment I observe is the one you're having for Yoruba sake, Yoruba muslims in general.

laudate:
Is he talking about the Visafone that was sold to MTN almost 2 years ago??

And you still think that tout is Yoruba?

Look at his poor attempt at trying to derail the thread.

IJOBA2:
YORUBA MUSLIMS WILL FIND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO SLEEP THIS NIGHT

Yoruba muslims, Yoruba Christians, Yoruba traditionalists don't care.

Ibo 'Fake' Jews on the other hand want Yorubas to care. Is that why you must mention Yoruba in any Biafra thread?

Cyynthia:
Just look at....All Igbos are supporting Biafra, but here, our own case is different.

Our Muslim brothers said they are better of with Northern Muslims instead of joining hands with our Son Adeyinka to actualise Oduduwa.
But their opinion won't stop we Christians from agitating to have our own country.

Oduduwa must come.

Who are your muslim brothers?

What is up with the Ibo people and religious fanatics?

Northerners are anti-Christians and Ibos are anti-Muslims. You lots are breeding a race of religious extremist. It never ends up well. There has to be a balance of both.

Is this dude alright at all?

hilroy:
Oya make una leave stories let's start posting profiles. I think someone should open a thread for discussion on whether Yoruba should stay with Nigeria or not. But for now let's get back to the reason why this thread is created

My apologies. You may proceed with the original intention of the thread. Some omo ales can't learn.

ModsWillKillNL:
You are a juvenile.

Most offline Yorubas know better.

A juvenile that tries to educate Yorubas on this thread, while 'grown up agbayas' like yourself, run amok on Biafra and APC/PDP threads. How does the latter help the Yoruba interest and knowledge-wealth?

totit:

Can't you guys see what's exactly happening,playing out here t

This beautiful thread is under attack and about to go into extinction

I am disappointed mehnn

We will soon reroute. I need to know who is who on this thread because some omo ales will try to sabotage any Pro-Yoruba effort we try to build i.e facebook education I proposed earlier. Na their type go report the page as spam because anything Pro-Yoruba is anti-OneNigeria to them.

Have you forgotten how some Yorubas reported that Yoruba commonwealth thread? So many Saboteurs amongst us.

ODVanguard:
I'll say it again that you're arguing from a position of ignorance. I'll allow Awo himself to respond to your 'why the West of the 4 Regions' question coz even he didn't feel the state of emergency was justified, considering that other regions also had their own fair share of crises yet the central government didn't deem it fit to declare a state of emergency in any of those hotspots. Read it slowly and hopefully your ignorance would be cured once and for all.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/07/awos-reply-state-emergency-1962/

Awo's Reply to the State of Emergency in 1962:

(Excerpts)
[b]“The first question which any reasonable person ought to ask himself is this. Is there a state of emergency in the Western Region? That is the most important question which the Prime Minister and the Cabinet must ask themselves. I submit with greater respect that a state of emergency does not exist in Western Nigeria. “Not long ago after independence, there was rioting of a most severe nature in the Tiv Division of Northern Nigeria.

Several lives were lost, several properties were destroyed, there was arson and a host other crimes were committed. At that time, Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa was the Prime Minister as he is the Prime Minister,today. He did not think it fit to call this Parliament to declare a state of emergency in the Northern Region.

Also in Okrika- there was widespread rioting in Okrika; again, several lives and properties were lost. I understand that this widespread rioting in Okrika occurred twice in the Eastern Region. The Prime Minister and the Cabinet did not think it fit on that occasion to declare a state of public emergency in the Eastern Region.

“But, because the Action Group is pursuing the normal democratic processes as laid down in our Constitution to oust someone who happens to be very close friend of the Prime Minister, and also because the Action Group is looked upon as a moral foe to the N.P.C., this very far-reaching provision of our Constitution is now being invoked, only in respect of what might be described as squabbles inside the Chamber of the Western House of Assembly. It is doing violence to our Constitution and doing violence to the construction of words to suggest that what happened in the Western House of Assembly amounts to a state of public emergency.[/b]

Yorubaland has always been attacked from all sides.

i.e
Political
Immigration
FG's resource control - Ogun state and Lagos pay the most royalties and taxes to FG.

Yet you have some omo ales wanting to live in bondage because of the scraps they get from the government.

laudate:
Hehehe.... I believe he is Yoruba, but he just has a different way of thinking. One thing I have learnt about Yorubas over the years, is their ability to tolerate divergent views. They don't follow one perspective or person, sheepishly or blindly. They firmly believe respect, has to be earned. And if you can persuade them with superior logic, they are ready to shift position to accommodate a better way of thinking, or a better way of doing things. I hope I am making sense. And I hope my views have not offended anyone. I was just thinking aloud.

Your views are too kind to that child.

So which of his views have been superior so far?

Tell him to tell us what Yorubas are gaining from one Nigeria.

ModsWillKillNL:
Huh!

Have Hausas ever asked for Arewa republic

Ibo political leaders? So many of them especially those that are not in govt.

Sigh.... when you realize that you've been wasting your time with a fool.

How many Ibo leaders, who are as powerful as Tinubu, supports Biafra openly? How many Ibo governors, senators, speakers etc openly support Biafra?

Do you think politicians speak for the people's interest?

ModsWillKillNL:
Agreed, but why was it the west of the 4 regions we had at the time, that got embroiled in such political turmoil as to get a state of emergence from an ordinary abokkki

My late grandfather almost lost his life in the crisis. He had already been daubed with petrol before...

Sigh. I had to delete my reply to this cause I'm feeling the spirit right now. Keeping it clean.

ModsWillKillNL:
I said I cant state them here because of non Yorubas on this thread.

That's why I asked if you know better than top Yoruba men in the society who are not calling for separation.

Silly excuse for your backward mentality.

I'm asking you to tell us what Yorubas are currently gaining from 1Nigeria..... we're listening.

ModsWillKillNL:
Why have Obasanjo, Tinubu, SW governors, SW APC, SW PDP, Afenifere, OPC, Yoruba clergymen etc etc not called for separation from Nigeria?

Why are you dodging this question?

Look at this fool. How many Ibo and Hausa political leaders have spoken for Biafra or Arewa republic?

Do you know why or do you want it spelled out?

ModsWillKillNL:
Well, you are still dwelling in the realm of speculation. Until, they call for separation, their one Nigeria stance remains.

Which of our clergymen have called for separation? Are they also stealing govt money and putting it in foreign banks?

Give us 10 of your best reasons for one-Nigeria. What do Yorubas get from one-Nigeria that they can't get in Yorubaland.

If you're really Yoruba....

laudate:
Haba!! Egbon, don't say that again, o! Even a person from the middle-belt will not subscribe to this opinion, because they know the truth. They have lived with Northerners for years, and are aware of the real politics behind the scene. Don't let anyone deceive you.

That tout is not Yoruba. Trust me.

ModsWillKillNL:
Funny enough, it's only online that I see Yorubas agitating for a separate countries.

From our churches to our mosques to our political gatherings (APC or PDP), I hear of unity all the way.

Does this sound like a Yoruba man?

GMBuhari:
It's a shame really the person who invited me to NL dabull quit using nairaland since his unfair ban became a weekly thing, today he doesn't want anything to do with nairaland, he even developed an app that blocks or reroutes any NL link and this is someone who has been a member since 2009 or so , a time will come when people will say there was a site called nairaland but unfortunately........

I feel am.

This forum is now for jobless ipod yoot and uneducated people who don't want serious discussions.

gbosaa:
Afam is an Igboist not a tribalist.

Igboist?

Omo shut up.

Afam is a tribalist. Why seun made him a mod is still beyond me.

GMBuhari:
To further boost your point , some months I uploaded a photo depicting flat head I got banned for 3 weeks today hardly is there a thread where you don't find images with tribal mark depicting afonja if you type flat-ino or flat-head together without hyphen it changes to Ibo, type afonja till infinity it doesn't change


Yoruba and pro Buhari nairalanders are on ban tl 2027 and this is not blackmail I have records of messages I've sent as mails to moderators


At a point I gathered all evidence and sent it to seun himself but the users are documented the expose about are still active and still cloning legitimate users and when they do they ban the real user of that profile and destroy the person's image before he resumes from ban I have friends who got tired of NL and the unfair moderating system , I myself may be logged in but I'm not a troll I don't go looking for trouble

. All these is just a waste of effort I know they won't change anything but in all fairness I'm putting it out here

They want to frustrate pro-Yoruba posters on this forum so that flat heads can run amok. I've noticed the same thing you're saying here.

Who told you that Seuun wants to fight tribalism? That's his daily bread. It's rather unfortunate that he's doing it at the detriment of his own people.

ODVanguard:
Can you just hear yourself?! They dare not, you say?? You sound like a frigging kid. They have already set the precedent with the Igbos. I guess in such an event, you will grovel at their feet like a slave and beg them not to send Yoruba people out of the North coz you need them to validate your existence. Smh. Anyway, if providence grants us the opportunity of leaving this damned contraption, you're very free to stay behind and eternally serve your masters. No one will deprive you of that privilege, that I'm sure of.

Free to stay?

We will deport him to Biafra or Arewa with his co-clowns FFK, Fayose and Nkem.

I hope he's just being as vocal offline so that Yorubas can mark and remember his village compound.

ModsWillKillNL:
Why are you guys talking like Igbos?

If they give Yorubas quit notice, we shall reciprocate here. Then, we shall see who loses more

They dare not!

Now who sounds Ibo.

Please arm your villagers with cassava sticks to go and reciprocate.

The world is trying to minimize casualties and end war, you're talking like an untraveled village tout. Do you think soldiers exchange roses and chocolate in war?

laudate:
Abeg, everybody sheathe your swords. Please don't let us lose focus of the real objective of this thread. Thanks.

Laudate, we will regain focus, I promise you that. At the end of the day, Yorubas regroup because we know what's important.

There are certain things that shouldn't go unaddressed.

oduastates:
Go on twitter and see yorubas struggling to make a case for one Nigeria .
The dysfunctional works for them . When human beings appear to find themselves in a position of higher socio- economic condition, they rarely want a change .
The so called social media influencer like Kayode Ogundamisi and Omojuwa carry One - Nigeria for head like mad men even though , the whole place is falling apart all around them .
These guys think that they can change what is an example to the world on how not to run a country .

Forget requiring a visa . Some countries simply phase a policy of not visa to anybody carrying a Nigerian passport.

Those mofos and clowns will get what's coming to them when Nigeria breaks.

We'll remember them and their queen slowpoke Kemi Nkem.

They forget that the fish they swallowed today will end up choking them tomorrow. Awon atenuje radarada.

Afam4eva:
Seun, i know you won't listen sha but i think i have to say it anyways.

Since the inception of Nairaland, tribalism has rained supreme and it became a fad from around 2008 till now and a lot of attempt have been made to actually exterminate the tribalist but all have proven abortive. We now know that banning them is just a waste of the time of moderators because these people have a lot time on their hands and will open a new account before you even say JACK ROBINSON.

All hope is not lost really because i have a practical solution that will help in reducing the visibility of tribalists on Nairaland. This does not mean that tribalistic comments will not be made but the fact that they will be suppressed by more meaningful comments. I actually suggested this some years ago though i'm not sure if it was because of the tribalism. So, here it is.

You need to introduce a REPUTATION SYSTEM whereby every nairalander is given a score depending on how much they have contributed to the forum. You can use variables such as REGISTRATION DATE, LIKES, COMMENTS and any other variables that you think is good enough. For instance, someone whose has been on nairaland for a longer time together with the addition of other variables will be given more priority at the top of a thread when they make comments. Which means that more meaningful comments will make it to the top of the pack leaving tribalistic comments to waste away at the end of the pecking order.

Another feature that will actually aid this ystem is the VERIFICATION system whereby people will have the choice to verify their accounts thereby making them real people as opposed to anonymous and these people will also be given priority.

Afam4eva, you yourself are a tribalist. You're not holy.

We can start by

1. Not moving Biafra thread to homepage - let them discuss Biafra on BiafraSay. That thread ends up being anti-Yoruba because your people can't do without mentioning Yorubas as if we're holding them down with chains.

2. Stop being partial. You get banned for saying 'osu', but you get frontpage for screaming 'afonja'

3. You get banned for posting anti-ibo pictures, but anti-Yoruba pictures get likes.


While you were a mod, a terrible one at that, you and that tout in cultural section, did nothing to end tribalism. You fed it. Now after firing you, you want us to sympathize with you abi? I noticed that you've been groveling for the past couple of months. Pele.

You were able to comment on Yoruba/Biafra matter, while Mynd44 was reprimanded for the same thing.

Check all the sections they made Ibos a mod, won ti bajeeeee. Who goes to cultural section anymore? Check out politics section, only jobless ipod yoots plenty. Soon it will be like the cultural section. Seuun just let these people mess up his forum.

ODVanguard:
Dude, with all due respect, you're in no position to lecture me about the politics of that era. You're the one confusing issues. Tafawa Balewa DID NOT tamper with the Regional/Parliamentary system that he was a part of at the time, the 'Khaki boys' did that by truncating the parliamentary system and introducing the unitary one we still have till today. The state of emergency (which was declared by Tafawa Balewa in May of 1962) only lasted for less than a year. Akintola was Premier till he was murdered in January 1966, long after the state of Emergency had been lifted. You're the confused one, guy. If the Western Region had been allowed to resolve its own internal problems (as it was already on the path of doing), perhaps this country wouldn't be in this shyt of a mess it is currently in. Yoruba people had already isolated SLA and by then he was already amenable to a political solution to his problems with the Awo camp.

Buhari's supporters went on a rampage killing folks in parts of the North some years back just coz he lost an election to GEJ, yet no state of emergency was declared in the affected states (more lives were lost during those riots than happened during the Awo/Akintola crisis), neither did anyone overthrow GEJ's government as a result.

Quit trying to justify the unjustifiable (the Nzeogwu coup) just coz you're trying to make a stupid point that is meant to suggest that Yorubas are incapable of ruling themselves owing to some internal political issues they had in the past. I guess your type are one of those that would rather be in servitude to other ethnicities owing to your inferiority complex that makes you feel you must be ruled over by others, else you won't be suggesting that such a great race as the Yorubas are incapable of ruling themselves. You're arguing from a position of abysmal ignorance.

That dude is not Yoruba. I swear it.

The dude sounds like a Northerner trying so hard to get Yoruba buy-in.

If that dude is Yoruba, make sango strike this thread.

Deedeedee5:
We will be able to create stable power supply, build better roads, better health care and education system. These are the Yorubas that will stick us to this country for years to come because they are not ready to learn from their fathers mistakes. Imagine living in a country were you provide everything for youself, Even light? Yet, you still have to pay for light you dont use.

They're ready to sell Lagos for one Nigeria.

ModsWillKillNL:
Can you successfully defend Yorubaland borders against rampaging Boko Haram/Islamist invaders especially when a significant portion of the erstwhile Nigerian army is now on their side?

Just like one Nigeria is successfully doing?

Right?

The same Northerners you want to invite to dinner to chop cake are the same ones trying to stop the Lagos-Ibadan rail budget.

9jakool:
It's all right. I am for whatever benefits the people. The federal government is too big as it is. If regionalism or separatism is the way to move forward, then so be it.

What's even more painful is the cultural aspect. In Africa, it's hard to find a country where the official/institutional language of education isn't foreign. Instead of promoting Yoruba's culture, Yoruba culture is being thrown away and you are considered more posh if you speak English and not your native language. Funny enough is most Nigerians aren't excellent in the English language. I want an autonomous state where Yoruba is the language of government and education institutions where local dialects will thrive and English will be a side language reserved only on the international stage.

OMGGGGG You're reading my mind.

Yorubas are the ones letting go of their culture to support one-Nigeria. Look at Lagos, they had to support high diverse migration into the megacity by reducing their Yoruba identity. Why do you think piglets now call Lagos a no-man's land?

Ogun is trailing the same path.

In a Yoruba country, we can accentuate our Yorubaness while making English an after-thought....a secondary language.

Yorubas are the ones losing their identity to support useless one Nigeria.

ModsWillKillNL:
We jointly own this country with the northerners.

They dare not!

This mofo is not Yoruba.

Which cake are you eating with the Northerners?

Ki lo ma n se eyin people yii sa?

ModsWillKillNL:
Even Trump hasn't been able to empty the US of unwanted foreigners with all the power at his disposal.


That is the reality of the modern world.

Had you read my post clearly, you'll see that I'm trying to educate you.

In a Yoruba country:

1. We will have ALL rights to control migration

2. We will still have diplomatic relationship with neighboring countries

3. We will still welcome foreign investors and LEGAL businesses.


The USA controls their immigration process, don't they?


I also see that you've ignored this post, why?

9jakool:
Yorubaland is stable enough to attain its full potential. Most of the religious and political strives plaguing much of Nigeria are not common in Yorubaland. An independent Yoruba state has a full potential to succeed. It's perhaps one of the least exploited areas in Nigeria. Yorubas have the longest coastline of any ethnic groups in Nigeria. Do you know how many mineral deposits like gold and iron ore found in Yorubaland? Do you know the billions of barrels of untapped hard oil found in the bitumen deposit of Ondo state. Do you know how much arable farming land is in Oyo, Kwara, and Ogun states? Do you know that most of the limestone deposit and cement production in Nigeria can be found in Yorubaland. Do you know that the largest cement plant in the whole of Africa, the Obajana cement plant is in Yorubaland?

You can consider the immense potential that can come from agriculture and cash crops alone like rubber, cocoa, oil palm, banana, orange, coffee, sugarcane, and cotton. The cocoa produced during the autonomous Western region was the reason why Nigeria was the largest cocoa producer in the world exporting cocoa to the various Western countries. Today, due to the neglect of the Nigerian government, the country has fallen to fourth place behind Indonesia. The same thing happen with the production of oil palm, which Nigeria was the largest producer, but has now been surpassed by Indonesia and Malaysia.

Back in the 1960s and 1970s, the same Indonesia and Malaysia used to come to Western Nigeria to take back saplings to their home countries. The oil palm isn't even native to Indonesia and Malaysia, but the west coast of Africa and yet these people are the largest producers after decades of investment in their agriculture and neglects of Nigeria's. The cocoa house, the only sky scrapper in Nigeria at the time and the tallest in Africa at the time was erected by the cocoa proceeds from the region under Odu'a Investment Company Ltd. Back then, it was referred to as "ile awon agbe."

When you look at a vintage picture of western Nigeria in the 70's and compare it to now, one always seems to wonder what happened along the way. For one, unemployment and poverty was lower then compared to now. The quality of education, security, health, and life was better. Isn't it that as a society ages, its people progresses. Why is it the reverse in Nigeria?

You really need to simmer down. Ignore that flat head piglet. Take time to read and understand this post.

Information is key.