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Infact, Lagos minus Igbos is village. |
Quote from superbangle:Any yoruba who thinks Ibo is the right choice is completely mad.If SE is conducive for living your people will not migrate to the West and stay put. As you know in the deepest part of your mind if the Igbo were to leave Lagos the remainig Lagosians would be forced to trekk from V/I to Ipaja. You people would trekk to Alaigbo within three days to beg us to come back and sell you spare parts for your cars. |
ChinenyeN, your posts are begining to provide value to our discussion. please keep up the good job. You have shown that you are an Ngwaa, one of the biggest Igbo clans and the owners of Aba.kudos. |
@ Aigbofag I hope you were'nt refering to Igbos in your last post. |
My best shot in the circumstances, but the article can also be found in Thisdayonline. Rivers Community Claims Obama Has Nigerian Roots Paul Ibe 19 January 2009 • Email|• Print|• Comment(2) Share: • • • • • • Does the President-elect of America, Barack Obama, have roots in Nigeria? The Obama community in Rivers State says yes, claiming that the great-great-great grandfather of the next US President, who assumes office tomorrow, is their "kith and kin". The community, which is in present-day Bakana in Degema Local Government Area of Rivers State, said the name "Bakana" was a Portuguese creation as their real name is "Obama" which means "Oba's kingdom" or "Oba's town". "Oba" means king. THISDAY was informed that when Barack Obama became a Senator four years ago, the then monarch, King Kegan Igbanigbo Will-Braide, informed his chiefs that the African-American has his roots in Obama Kingdom in Rivers State. It was also gathered that when the former Illinois Senator became a presidential aspirant the now deceased monarch wrote to the Federal Government, intimating them of this. A delegation of three chiefs from the kingdom dispatched to Abuja to meet with Foreign Affairs Minister, Chief Ojo Maduekwe, could not get audience with the Minister and was then forced to abort the mission. Akasoba Zainab Duke, lawyer, political scientist and traditionalist, who first brought the existence of the Obama kingdom to the attention of. THISDAY, said Will-Braide had intimated her that the US President-elect has roots in Nigeria as far back as 2004, when Obama won election as Senator. Elders of Obama who spoke to THISDAY yesterday on the island, which is five nautical miles from Port Harcourt, claimed that the US President-elect's great-great-great grandparents were from Obama Bakana Kingdom. The story goes that following inter-tribal wars around 1776, the people of Obama began to disperse and that the US President-elect's ancestor migrated up North to Kanem Bornu Empire. Obama's great-great-great grandparents, out of sheer tiredness and not wanting bloodshed, moved up towards the Kanem Bornu area. The condition for the stay of Obama's ancestors in Kanem Bornu empire was to convert to Islam, according to the story. The US President-elect's father and great-grandfather were Muslims. From Kanem Bornu the Obama ancestors were said to have migrated to the present Kenya. The father of the US President-elect hailed from Kogelo in Kenya. "No one is saying by any stretch of imagination that if you go to Kenya, you will not see Obama's father's house; we are looking at his ancestry, at his roots. It is like Alex Haley, an American who traced his ancestor, Kunta Kinte, to Gambia," Duke said. Most of the elders in the Kingdom who spoke with THISDAY claimed that the founder of the Kingdom was a warrior who after defeating the Kalabaris at Iwofe blockaded the area from produce supplies. The action was said to have angered the British colonial masters, who intervened and compelled him (the monarch) to sign a treaty that forced him out of the Iwofe front area into the present day Obama Kingdom. After establishing the Obama Kingdom, which he named after his father, the monarch, who wielded great influence, was said to have even visited the Oba of Benin who allegedly recognized him as a fellow Oba. "Obama Kingdom was founded around 1881 by King Igbanigbo Will-Braide after he migrated from the Iwofe area when he was forced by the colonial masters to leave the area. "After fighting the Kalabaris at the Iwofe Front and defeating them, Will-Braide blockaded the food and produce supply route. He was later reported to the colonial masters who came with HMV Dido (gun boat) and forced him by a decretive order to leave the Iwofe area. "He left and founded the Obama Kingdom which he named after his father. The name Bakana, which the Kingdom bears now, is a Portuguese coinage. After listening to Louis Armstrong, who used the word Bakana in his record, I went to the Portuguese Embassy and inquired from them the meaning of Bakana. They said it means beautiful flowery place. "The original name of Bakana is Obama and that is why we have been naming every important landmark in the place Obama so that the name would not be lost. We have Obama Boys High School and Obama Community Bank in this place," Chief Ibiekaribo S. Sogules told THISDAY. Sogules' account was corroborated by Chief Costa Jim-Emine. Reminded that there is another Obama town in Japan, Sogules was quick to point out that the other Obama town is made up of whites but that the US President-elect in spite of "his long stay in America and having a white mother still retains his black skin and other African features". The elders of the Obama community urged the US President-elect to "link up with his own people and contribute his quota to the development of where he is from." THISDAY observed that there exists in the kingdom a community bank named Obama Community Bank Nigeria Limited floated in the early 1990s and a secondary school, Obama Boys High School. |
@ richy black: I'll try but the computer has been acting funny. |
Note that the warrior named the town after his father. Note that according to one of Ikeyman's threads the Igbos were the first to use the title Oba for king.Even before the Yorubas started using it. |
This is the Thisday article. Rivers Community Claims Obama Has Nigerian Roots Paul Ibe 19 January 2009 • Email|• Print|• Comment(2) Share: • • • • • • Does the President-elect of America, Barack Obama, have roots in Nigeria? The Obama community in Rivers State says yes, claiming that the great-great-great grandfather of the next US President, who assumes office tomorrow, is their "kith and kin". The community, which is in present-day Bakana in Degema Local Government Area of Rivers State, said the name "Bakana" was a Portuguese creation as their real name is "Obama" which means "Oba's kingdom" or "Oba's town". "Oba" means king. THISDAY was informed that when Barack Obama became a Senator four years ago, the then monarch, King Kegan Igbanigbo Will-Braide, informed his chiefs that the African-American has his roots in Obama Kingdom in Rivers State. It was also gathered that when the former Illinois Senator became a presidential aspirant the now deceased monarch wrote to the Federal Government, intimating them of this. A delegation of three chiefs from the kingdom dispatched to Abuja to meet with Foreign Affairs Minister, Chief Ojo Maduekwe, could not get audience with the Minister and was then forced to abort the mission. Akasoba Zainab Duke, lawyer, political scientist and traditionalist, who first brought the existence of the Obama kingdom to the attention of THISDAY, said Will-Braide had intimated her that the US President-elect has roots in Nigeria as far back as 2004, when Obama won election as Senator. Elders of Obama who spoke to THISDAY yesterday on the island, which is five nautical miles from Port Harcourt, claimed that the US President-elect's great-great-great grandparents were from Obama Bakana Kingdom. The story goes that following inter-tribal wars around 1776, the people of Obama began to disperse and that the US President-elect's ancestor migrated up North to Kanem Bornu Empire. Obama's great-great-great grandparents, out of sheer tiredness and not wanting bloodshed, moved up towards the Kanem Bornu area. The condition for the stay of Obama's ancestors in Kanem Bornu empire was to convert to Islam, according to the story. The US President-elect's father and great-grandfather were Muslims. From Kanem Bornu the Obama ancestors were said to have migrated to the present Kenya. The father of the US President-elect hailed from Kogelo in Kenya. "No one is saying by any stretch of imagination that if you go to Kenya, you will not see Obama's father's house; we are looking at his ancestry, at his roots. It is like Alex Haley, an American who traced his ancestor, Kunta Kinte, to Gambia," Duke said. Most of the elders in the Kingdom who spoke with THISDAY claimed that the founder of the Kingdom was a warrior who after defeating the Kalabaris at Iwofe blockaded the area from produce supplies. The action was said to have angered the British colonial masters, who intervened and compelled him (the monarch) to sign a treaty that forced him out of the Iwofe front area into the present day Obama Kingdom. After establishing the Obama Kingdom, which he named after his father, the monarch, who wielded great influence, was said to have even visited the Oba of Benin who allegedly recognized him as a fellow Oba. "Obama Kingdom was founded around 1881 by King Igbanigbo Will-Braide after he migrated from the Iwofe area when he was forced by the colonial masters to leave the area. "After fighting the Kalabaris at the Iwofe Front and defeating them, Will-Braide blockaded the food and produce supply route. He was later reported to the colonial masters who came with HMV Dido (gun boat) and forced him by a decretive order to leave the Iwofe area. "He left and founded the Obama Kingdom which he named after his father. The name Bakana, which the Kingdom bears now, is a Portuguese coinage. After listening to Louis Armstrong, who used the word Bakana in his record, I went to the Portuguese Embassy and inquired from them the meaning of Bakana. They said it means beautiful flowery place. "The original name of Bakana is Obama and that is why we have been naming every important landmark in the place Obama so that the name would not be lost. We have Obama Boys High School and Obama Community Bank in this place," Chief Ibiekaribo S. Sogules told THISDAY. Sogules' account was corroborated by Chief Costa Jim-Emine. Reminded that there is another Obama town in Japan, Sogules was quick to point out that the other Obama town is made up of whites but that the US President-elect in spite of "his long stay in America and having a white mother still retains his black skin and other African features". The elders of the Obama community urged the US President-elect to "link up with his own people and contribute his quota to the development of where he is from." THISDAY observed that there exists in the kingdom a community bank named Obama Community Bank Nigeria Limited floated in the early 1990s and a secondary school, Obama Boys High School. |
@ house, This thread has opened my mind to a lot of Igbo issues. One of them is the three Obama towns in Eastern Nigeria: there is one in Mbaise, one in Okrika, and one in the Kalabari area. From further research I think we can conclude that they are from the original Mbaise town. One of the posters in this thread, I think Dede 1 is from the Mbaise one. Patience Johnathan is from the Okrika one. Remember the Okrika's have the rulin Igbo Kubonije clan of the Uwakwe Ogans. Now an article I read in Thisday says Barrack Obama is from the Kalabari area town. According to the Bakama queen interviewed, Obama's great,great grand father left that town for Kenya many years ago. House, what do you think of this? |
ChinenyeN, your posts are begining to provide value to our discussion. please keep up the good job. You have shown that you are an Ngwaa, one of the biggest Igbo clans and the owners of Aba.kudos. |
Quote from mens department: If we are going round and round on Igboland is this big and that wide,,,oh no, it actually has this and that, and Ngwa and Anioma-no WAWA and Ikwerre, oops Bende and Mbaise people, sorry, NdiAnambara and Owere people, yes, we have trivialized it all. 30 pages and counting, yet you wonder why the battle for 2011 doesnt include Igboland and its environs. Your envy has made this page green. Your efforts to bait us in your direction has already failed. Keep moving! Shey this na just ego thread right. Thankyou bye bye. As long as you are not Igbo or a neighboring tribe, you are not welcome here. Comprende. Ikwikwi ka I bu. |
Qoute from ChinenyeN (the disgraceful son of Ndigbo) In Ika the greeting for a man i believe is "maba" and for a woman its "mane". In ukwuani you will here greetings such as "Ajeni". It is just like across the river, in Imo and some places in abia you will here greetings such as "Oleah" but if you say it to an Anambra person they will look at u like "huh? ". It is not Ajeni. It is Otofo for women, AJEH for men. The Ika greeting is not maba or mamba or whatever you call it. It is vana. I repeat vana. You hear. Your attempts to discourage discuss of Ndigbo will only bring you sadness. If you think you can stop Igbo progress, you are wasting your time. Better log off and go hitting your head on the wall. I have discovered the pattern that Ezeuche discovered. You should be ashamed of yourself. If this is about the childish rivalry between the Aros and the Ngwaa, then you are childish and selfish. You know what you are not an Igboman or an Ngwa man. You come from a tribe of one. Congratulations! You are the founder of the KineyeN tribe of one. Good luck KineyeN nationalist.I think you are Nigeria's smallest tribe. |
So who is the Yoruba leader who is carrying on in the greatness of Awolowo? |
Alaba market, Una dey hear? |
I wonder where Willy Willy is. |
@ Ezeuche, I guess you just have to tolerate Chinenyen's views with the patience of a senior brother. Afterall as Naijaking said he is 'onyeigbo' and thus we can not throw him away. @ ChinenyeN, grow up boy, you can't continue this unhealthy 'divide Igbos attitude nah, it's unIgbo. Make sure you attend the Baltimore Convention. Ndibanyi Ka chi bo. |
@ ChinenyeN On a more serious note. Listen to what Ezeuche and Chyz have said. I would like to hear your ideas on the blessings of Alaigbo as a whole, and not just Ngwa. I have no doubt that they would be interesting. |
@ ChinenyeN The charges are: 1.Saying things capable of dividing Ndigbo. 2.Willfully and disgracefuly slowing down the progress of Ndigbo. What do you plead? |
@ Ezeuche In the media sector they have given Nduka Obaigbena(Thisday). They are formidable. |
Quote from Ezeuche Igbos born in Alaigbo do not even know where Igboland begins or end. I learned some new things as well about the Igbos found in Delta State. My brother, Igboland will not be complete without the Delta Igbos. They are at least our financial arm. Think of Jim Ovia (Zenith Bank), Tony Elumelu (UBA), Pat Utomi(Bank PHB). They are very important. |
@ ChinenyeN Plus join an Igbo association in your city or State. That will help you see Igbo point of view,better. |
Quote from Ezeuche: He thinks people do not understand him clearly, we understand him loud and clear and we do not like what he is saying. Does the boy think he is going to win over any supporters by the way he discusses the Ngwa as a separate entity. This man brings up Ngwa this and Ngwa that. What makes his clan so special that they deserve their own ethnicity? These people are not even mixed with other groups like the Aro or northern Igbo clans but we do not have the audacity to speak in such terms. His words can only be taken with a grain of salt, because he never visited Alaigbo. Until he visits, or should I say live in Alaigbo, he cannot speak on behalf of anyone who resides in the East. When he should be coming here to learn, this guy is trying to put his opinion into something he knows nothing about. I thank God for this thread because it will help Igbos everywhere gain a deeper perspective of what it means to be Igbo. Ndigbo who were born outside Alaigbo will even be very much educated about the special place by reading this thread. |
Plus join an Igbo association in your city or State. That will help you see Igbo point of view,better. |
Quote from ChinenyeN: If only you knew, Obiagu1, there has been only one discussion in which I have directly brought up the Ngwa issue. Since then, that topic, and my comments therein, have consistently been revisited by other Igbo; not by me.Now, my charges? I would like to know what it is that I have done wrong. I would like to know what exactly the council is accusing me of. You said it with your own mouth: "ever since you talked about Ngwa(as a seperate ethnic group) Igbos have not been happy," right? You have been a member of this thread, and you are by now aware of what has been done to make Igboland smaller than it really is. For you to then try to carve out Ngwa again! Bros think about it now. That is too much. A na acho I dozi nke mebiri e mebi ozo a na achokwa I mebi. Mba nu. Translation(we are trying to fix the part of the cloth that has torn and another part is trying to tear). Please recognize that Ngwa is one of the biggest kingdoms within Igboland, nothing less, nothing more. Nya ga zie. |
Quote from ChinenyeN and where have I altered my ethnicity to suite my 'schemes'? Where have I been dishonest? Alteration of ethnicity.LOL. |
Quote from T9ksy: @Beaf, can u expantiate on that please. IMO, Awo did what he thought was best for his people, the yorubas. Quote from T9ksy:@bluetooth, there was no need for that statement. Beaf only wrote what he believes but seems to me that you have no superior argument to counter his asertation hence your unnecessary response. LOL! This guy no know where him they.LOL |
Quote from T9ksy:Gosh, don't u guys ever get tired of behaving like kindergarten kids? It seems like u all just come here to diss each other irrespective of the topic in question. Can any of u kids remember the title of this discourse? I doubt it very much. Oh well, who am i to spoil your fun? Its so so boring!!!!!!!!!! Tell that to Bk and his babes. |
Quote from koruji I suppose you think you made a smart post eh? Go sleep!Are you talking to yourself again or just scared to identify who you are writing to? I see your face is talking to itself again! |
I suppose you think you made a smart post eh? Go sleep! |
Mr mayor The lies in your mouth can be spotted as soon as they live it. That's my word for you. |
Quote from Ow11 It is really amazing how indigenes of a group of Islands purported to have been founded and Inhabited by Igbos until 1970 suddenly begin to speak a new language and bear names Igbo people can't decipher the meaning except the ludicrous attempts by some on this forum saying that SOTONYE is an Igbo name I went to school with a decendant of Oko Jumbo (the Igbo who fought Jaja in Bonny). Guess what? His name is SOTONYE. So what are you talking about? |
This thread influenced a national peace meeting between Ndiigbo and Ijaw leaders like Edwin Clarke. This thread has had national impact! |