GOAL!! Fabregas with another nice goal.  vs villarreal

oops, wrong thread 

Wetin dey nah?

I'd say "We told you so", but no need. EVeryone already knows WE TOLD YOU SO!!  

congrats on ur CL victory. Awon boys yen try.

haha Please guys, take Debosky less seriously than you take Wenger. The guy is 2ce as clueless. Wenger fanboy.

Yeah. . . ANd all the previous more successful runs in the CL really helped to upgrade you squad abi.? Like beating Udinese will do anything but reinforce your blind optimism.    I go die o

I'm fasting and praying for you so i can't really respond to that nonsense you just posted. Baba God won't answer the prayers so.

debosky:

Anyone wishing Arsenal loses games is not worthy of being a follower of this club.

Why not? Some believe Arsene is responsible for the club's failures and want him out. They may believe that the sooner he is out the sooner someone else with fresh ideas can be brought in, and maybe the club can start to head to a better place than where Mr Wenger's long tenure has brought it to.  If Arsenal keeps losing, Arsene might quit or get fired. Great news for REAL Arsenal fans and not so great for Wenger fanboys.

debosky:

Have your grouses against the manager, but hoping the club gets into trouble is the most foolish approach of all.

Not everyone is ready to buy into another illusion of progress. That illusion is what some believe has kept Wenger employed, and so powerful, for so long. SOme even argue that being hopeful despite the obvious signs that Arsene is an olodo rabata is the most foolish approach of all.

debosky:

It is daft to think it is Wenger only that will be affected if we lost to Udinese - even if he leaves, he'll get a job elsewhere with more pay, while we'll be left with lower income

Says the chairman of the "Arsene is the only one that can keep Arsenal profitable so the board can laugh and we can cry" club.

How does the departure of Wenger automatically mean lower income? And even if it did why is that necessarily a bad thing for the club? Arsenal is becoming less attractive a club for players and fans by the second. U still dey here dey idolize baba Wenger.  

debosky:
- how can that EVER be good for the club?
As always, emotional responses detracting from logical reasoning yet again.

Seems to me Wenger has u wrapped around his wee wee. Na your responses emotional and illogical pass. Until una fall off cliff b4 u realize say that man no get clue abi?


I go continue to dey pray for u.

I'm sure Nasri can't wait to get the hell outta that club.

1 point from possible 6 with old trafford up next after a big game at Stadio friuli.

I think it's virtually impossible for any arsenal fan to be optimistic right now. I believe anyone of them that appears to not be sh*t ing himself/herself is faking it.

--> awaiting spindoctor debosky and his big big grammar to somehow find something positive in this.

Cesc: "I spoke to [Wenger] on Friday to say goodbye and got very emotional because he has been like a father figure," Fábregas said. "I couldn't even talk when I wanted to say how grateful I was for what he has done to me, so I had to send a message afterwards saying thanks for everything. If it was not for him I would not be here today to live my dream. I will never have enough words to say how grateful I am. I went from being a boy to a man and they gave me absolutely everything in football. I have mixed emotions. Life goes on: Arsenal will always be there, the fans will always be there. Players come and go; the club will always be bigger than them."

"At Arsenal, there were finals and semi-finals but we always lacked that little extra push to win something. That was hard to take. It was not that we didn't win titles it was that we kept going through the same routine, the same things happening to us and us messing up. I gave everything for Arsenal but it didn't show in the [trophy] cabinet because I only won one FA Cup. That is the biggest regret I will have in my career – not to be able to lift a trophy as Arsenal captain."

"I am sorry I couldn't say anything for the last two and half months, Arsenal would not allow me to talk, I was disappointed and upset about that but it had to be like that. I still have, personally, a great relationship with them and I am disappointed to have maybe lost [the affection of] some of the fans.

"I am sorry I couldn't say anything, I am sorry. I was very, very sad to be leaving. I spent a third of my life there – eight years."

debosky:

Thanks - don't let the door hit you on your way out.  

lol Don't worry it won't. Cesc broke the hinges off when he darted out during his escape from london.  


Cesc during his presentation: *In Madonna voice* " Don't cry for me Barcelona. . . . The truth is I never left you. . . . Remember last year, that second leg here. . . I kept my promisssse. . .don't keep your distance"  

debosky:



Besides, I've always said do not listen to what Wenger says - look at what he does.

We have looked, and what we see is a fukn disaster.

duduspace:

Cesc could never sign for Tottenham or even Manure lai lai, I can't wish the boy evil, difficult circumstances. Its the way your club went about it that was wrong and I think it goes back to the last leadership. Good, we can now close the book, don't think anyone came out of this with much credit.

We feel the same about Wenger tapping up promising youth from our academy. Our club did nothing wrong IMVBO (in my very biased opinion   ). All is fair in love and war.

ANd Figo signed for Madrid so he deserved the pig's head. He lucky say boys no lynch am.

duduspace:


Thank you very much, one thing I'm sure of is that we won't be throwing a pig's head when next he comes to the emirates. Difference in class you see. 

haha Storee. If he had signed for Tottenham na Eboue head una go throw. Class ko, University ni

Live footage of Cesc's presentation at Camp Nou. I know y'all just can't wait to see ur captain kitted up in BLAUGRANA!!!

enjoy http://www.magedtv.net/ch1.html

Wenger made a lot of money for the board, broke the hearts of the fans over and over again, and he is still seen as a hero by many.

funny shite

We have been saying this for the past how many seasons but these deluded gooners no dey hear word.

Y'all don't support Arsenal, you support Wenger. U swallow everything he tells you and accept his conclusions rather than evaluating things urselves.

Get rid of that senile old man. He cares not for y'all. Unless una dey get %age of dem profits, una just be maga.

Cesc is on a plane to Barcelona. He is now officially a Barca player.


Goodluck Arsenal. Hopefully Wenger does something smart with the money and y'all don't miss him too much

coogar:

that is because only tools live in toronto and they don't know freekick can be indirect and if a header meets cesc's delivery, cesc cops an assist.
if cesc's penalty hits the post or gets parried by the goalie and another player taps it in. . . .it's cesc's assist.

Xavi takes almost all of our indirect freekicks so same applies to him, they help his stats too. Alves and Messi take most of the direct ones. Now you are starting to sound desperate.

I said this . . . "Cesc scores more goals from open play than Xavi and Iniesta combined". Do your research and holla back instead of squatting and dropping words out of your buttocks.

coogar:

in a nutshell, cesc will come to barcelona and score all the goals?

Yes. That's exactly what I said.

coogar:

only fools reason like this. there's a fairly normal distribution in the way goals are shared in a team. with messi scoring 50 per season, it means xavi/iniesta's goal-haul would be less than average as messi has eaten into what average midfielders should be copping. you don't expect messi to score 50 and xavi/iniesta combine to score 50 goals too.

Messi has not always scored 50 goals. Before he started putting up such numbers, Xavi and Iniesta were not real goal scoring threats, so your argument goes to shhhit. They have improved, but are still not known for goal scoring. Xavi has been in the team  since 1998 and to my knowledge his best season as far as goals go is dwarfed by average Cesc seasons. In fact, Xavi and Iniesta's goal numbers over the past 2 seasons (Messi's best yet) are significatly higher than their previous tallies.  Again, do your research and get back to me instead of. . . . . .

Cesc brings qualities we do not already have and will only make us stronger.

coogar:

cesc can rack up 30 goals in arsenal because no arsenal striker can rack 40 goals per season. this is logic but it's a bit beyond you.

You wouldn't know logic it showed up at your door with a big label on forehead reading "LOGIC".  

YOu might mean to say Cesc can rack up 30 goals and still win nada, probably because they do not have the quality needed to complement him. A striker to match that tally and they would likely be winning stuff. That's logic. Learn, boy. LEARN!  

coogar:

if ronaldo and messi play in the same team every week, they will not score 55 goals each in a season. one of them will eat into the statistics of the other. two of them will not kick penalties or freekicks at the same time and score.  so if you expect cesc to generate the same stats he does in arsenal with messi, xavi, pedro and david villa in the same team then you need lobotomy.

All this is opata. Beer parlour analysis from an alcoholic drinking the cheapest stuff on sale.  

I didn't say we need Cesc to score 30 goals at Barca. I said being a consistent goal scoring threat is something he brings to our midfield that we do not currently have. With or without Messi, Eto,o, dinho etc, Xavi has never delivered such goal scoring numbers.

coogar:

so when cesc joins barcelona, he won't be a newcomer like thiago? are you born foolish? what point is this mumu making. you won't take me serious because of thiago. but you would take me serious because of fabregas(who would also be a new comer in the barca team).

Running the midfield of Barca is a lot of pressure, and it is IMO irresponsible to put that on Thiago's shoulders. Cesc has the talent and experience needed to fill Xavi's shoes. Thiago, while extremely talented should be eased into the team. This isn't arsenal.

coogar:

so what's the point you are trying to make here? you signed zambrotta, thuram, gudjohnsen, season started - you lost etoo and messi. . . .so what does this prove - abi you drank mumu stew? barcelona did not fail under rijkaard because of their transfer. they failed because there was no team discipline. ronaldinho stopped performing(that was the key). if you sign 1000 cescs and messi stops performing, barcelona will struggle.

My point is that having an already successful and talented squad is not a good enough reason to not strengthen. WHen you have injuries or players stop performing, you need replacements of matching quality if you are serious about maintaining your dominance. We did not have adequate replacements for our starters and we paid for it.

coogar:

what an idiotic guinea-pig  - comparing the injury of messi/etoo when there were no able replacements to xavi/iniesta who have busquets, thiago, keita, mascherano, alexi sanchez, etc  makes you a schlepper.

None of those players you listed can play Xavi's role. Not even Iniesta. U are just throwing names around but obviously have no understanding of how Barca works. How is Mascherano or ALexis sanchez, or Keita going to replace Xavi for fcuks sake? Are you fukn serious?

coogar:

man utd had rooney, nani, berbatov, rio, vidic, van der sar, etc in 09/10 and did not win the league.
same set of players won it 12 months later.


inter milan had sneijder, milito, etoo, lucio, cesar, stankovic and could not beat schalke.
the same set of players won the treble the previous 12 months.

only fools argue like you. when you sign players, it does not necessarily guarantee success, it only boosts your chances to be successful.
chelsea won the double 09/10 under ancelotti. they added more than £100 million worth of talents to a winning squad and they won nothing 12 months later under the same manager and same set of players + torres(£50m) + david luiz(£20m) + ramirez(£20m) + benayoun + zhirkov!

Who said signing players guarantees success? I gave an example of a season our top players were unavailable or out of shape and we didn't have adequate replacements and you are talking some next irrelevant shite.

We did not strengthen our midfield, and didn't sign a real striker because we thought we had it all. The 1st time around we lost the title on the last day of the season despite not have Eto'o and Messi for about 5 months each. Had we another quality striker instead of Guddy, or the luxury of taking deco off the pitch and putting Fabregas on, we would have won that title. It wasn't until the season after that that Ronaldinho completely let himself go. . . tho he was already showing signs he wasn't serious anymore. We lost the title that year because we lacked the quality to adequaltely replace our starters. Something that happens at Arsenal year after year.

We need Cesc because he adds quality to an already strong team. There are other players out there we can get but only Cesc knows the system well enough that we can just plug him right in and expect him to perform. We can't do that to Thiago.

Mentioning Keita, Maschrano amd Alexis sanchez as possible Xavi replacements is madness IMO.

God bless you.  

coogar:



sharrap, 10 yrs ago, you were loafing around in admin basement of oau, ife looking for chics to score.

hahaha U forget to add that I was highest goal scorer and I gave ur chic torros on several occasions. U go Ife?

I dey come I go reply your post after I chop. Hunger dey catch me after reading such nonsense

coogar:


cesc's stats? this boy na mumu.
his stats is bloated because he does the throw-ins, corner-kicks, penalties, freekicks. how won't his stats go up? how many of cesc's stats came from open play? i presume you think when cesc gets to barcelona, messi-xavi-iniesta-alves, etc will just stand by and watch cesc take every set-piece. i have always said barcelona fans are plastic fans. many of you joined because of the sudden success in the team. 10 yrs ago, krayola was supporting arsenal or southampton.

I don forget say penalty and freekick sef na assist.

Cesc scores more goals from open play than Xavi and Iniesta combined.

10 years ago I was supporting the Toronto Raptors when they played in the UEFA cup.

This clown listed Mascherano  (someone that struggled to hold our DM spot and has been converted to CB, and Thiago (new comer) as possible replacements for Xavi and Iniesta. After such jagbajantis it's extremely difficult to take you seriously again. Not that I'm trying tho. . . it's easier to just laugh at your posts  

coogar:

how have barcelona been so successful in the last 4-5 years without cesc? how have they managed to keep xavi/iniesta fit for most parts of the season and you suddenly think 2 of your best midfielders will go injured. without xavi and iniesta, busquets, keita, mascherano and thiago are capable of holding that midfield until the calvary returns. . . .

mumu!

Thank goodness the people running our club don't think like you.

The last time we made such silly decisions was after rijkaard's double. We signed Zambrotta, Thuram, and Gudjohnsen because deluded clowns like yourself were talking crap like "we have dinho xavi, and deco, with motta and edmilson. we don't need this and that" U think say other teams dey sleep? Season started and we lost Eto'o and Messi for about 5 months each, Dinho stops performing and we ended up with NADA. TWICE!!!

mtcchhheeww!!! somebody please shoot this clown and put him put of his misery!  

coogar:

barca do not need cesc - they just want him at all cost to rob one of their rivals of their best player. the duel between barcelona and arsenal was close last season. guardiola must have noticed they only went through by a margin thinner than the skin of their teeth. getting cesc then becomes an objective. if we get cesc and we meet arsenal again, the difference will become wider again.

This makes a lot of sense.

coogar:

what is cesc supposed to add to a manager that already has xavi, iniesta, thiago, mascherano, busquets in the midfield? xavi's age is immaterial.
his game does not require any running with the ball. he passes the ball, moves into a space, makes himself available to receive the pass again. xavi will last as long as giggs debarring any injury. his style of play is not blood/thunder.

SO basically you are saying Cesc is not going to add much to Barca because we already have so so and so?  Very intriguing post.  

How many of those player's can smell Cesc's stats? WHat happens if Xavi and /or Iniesta get injured? We play mascherano/Keita and Thiago as our main CMs abi? and then hope to achieve the same success, abi?  Or we put the pressure of carrying Barca's midfield on Thiago? U think say we be Arsenal? No wonder Arsenal never win anything since nineteen gbogboro. Na this kind logic una dey use make decisions. Injury go land then una squad to turn to shhhit.

Oshi oda!

coogar:

you talk a lot of bullshit for a barca fan.
turboh, you never change with your black kpomo lips.

 Times change, people don't. . . .

coogar:

how many world class players were in porto fc last season?

What teams were Porto up against, and what are their squads like?

And my point is that with teams like Chelsea, Man Utd, and now Man city as competition, you need to have world class players to compete successfully for honours; not that only teams stacked with world class players can be successful in any context.

edoyad:

@krayola, i don't blame you sha. You have the audacity to come here and flap those your lips like half-done kpomo pla pla pla pla . . .
So what if we haven't won anything in half a decade ? Where were Barca between 1999 and 2004 ? Running around Europe like headless chickens inspite of outspending Irureta and Rafa. Why didn't your policy help you then.
Just because oversight for the Italian big three and  Madrid allow una sign Dinho and Eto, you want to come here and yarn like you have one magic formula like that. Go sleep jare    

We had 4 different managers in that period, and eventually needed an almost complete overhaul. We didn't stick to a losing formula hoping for different results.

BTW Dinho was only a super-star at Barca. Never before, and never after. DO the math  

Eto'o is omo iya aje. Arsene should sign him. wait. . . he costs too much. But not to worry, u have Bendtner.  

coogar:


you dey craze!
arshavin, nasri, van persie, song, wilshere, etc are brilliant players.

Haha. ok sir, if u say so. The rest nko?

slimshay:

Cesc is leaving when Arsenal needs him most and Barca needs him least. No, I'm not saying he's not good enough to play for them, his numbers suggest far otherwise. However they don't need him to be victorious. Sadly Arsenal needs a player of his calibre to keep pushing.

Barca need Cesc. Xavi isn't getting any younger and we were extremely lucky with injuries last season. Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets and Messi were healthy for most of the season. I won't put my money on that happening again this season, especially since we are fighting for 6 trophies. Also, Mourinho is not selling groundnut in Madrid, and Malaga's preseason has convinced me that they are not messing around. If we want to remain a winning team, we need to strengthen our squad with top quality players, especially when the competition are doing the same. . .  a concept that Wenger has shown is completely foreign to him. He does the direct opposite. Loses his better players, and replaces them with questionables.

slimshay:

Debo I understand what you say about public face, however AW did not mince words 'I love Cesc and will like him to stay'. I suggest it is out of his hands.

Na Wenger love Cesc wan chop?   Una no go kill pessin oooo. . .

Barca loves Cesc and wants him to come back home. Shikena!

slimshay:

Only Cesc can say his true motives for wanting to go. But if it is to win trophies, easy cop out my friend. Hleb won trophies at Barca. Hell, Cjhrygnskjykysgh. . . .or whatever won trophies at Barca.

Same can be said for Henry and his CL ambitions. Bottom line is Arsenal lost their winning formula and the wise ones jump ship. Man no suppose wait till ship don sink finish before him begin reading instruction manual for life jacket.

Hleb and Chygrynski were fringe players. Cesc will IMO be a starter in our new 3-4-3 layout. If we win with him it will be because he played a major part in the success, and not because his butt was french kissing the bench.

slimshay:

@Krayola, which pedestal, dude are living in Eskimoland?

Arsene Wenger was categorical, left to him he wanted to keep Cesc. Board, Barca and Cesc all those 3 were open to him leaving. And still yet it is AW that will get the load of the insults after all this.

Cesc does not want to stay in a team that he feels is not serious about winning. He won't be young forever and does not want to look back on his career with regret. He is simply too talented to have nothing but a whole lot of disappointment to show for it. I think fans should try to understand that part of things.

In the current premiership a team with 2-3 world class players and many mediocres will most likely not win the league. You look at Fabregas' stats over the years and one can understand his frustration. I understand Wenger wants to keep him, but Wenger is not surrounding him with players that can match both his talent and ambition. After a while players look around and make their own assessments. Wenger can only motivate them so much. . . at some point they look around and see that his decisions do not seem to backup the claims he makes about the club's ambitions. DO you really expect them to stick around forever while Arsene gambles away their careers?

Like we all never saw this coming. . . . .

Arsenal apparently have difficulty attracting top talent and keeping their best players. Many fans blame the players for wanting more money but ignore the fact that top players want sporting success as well, and Arsenal have been unable to demonstrate that they are willing to make the necessary investments that will help give them a realistic chance of winning trophies.

Is it really fair to shhhit on players because they want out of a club that does not seem to share their ambition for winning trophies?

There is this "Arsene can do no wrong" mentality that I think is slowly killing Arsenal. WHat more evidence do you need to be convinced that Arsene Wenger's policies, while likely sincere and well intended, are not necessarily in the best interest of the club?  

Same process every season, same decisions, same results, and same bullshhhit repeated by baba Wenger . . . . feeding fans the same propaganda and sometimes turning them against players that gave their all while they played for Arsenal. It happened to Ade, Flamini, Clichy, and now it will happen to Nasri and Cesc. It's always the players' greed, or somehow the players' fault. . . . .  never Arsene.

Arsenal ain't won nada in close to a decade and it's everyone and everything's fault except the manager that has made most of the decisions affecting the club. In fact the manager is raised on a pedestal and worshipped.

I laugh in pidgin swahili . . . Una never jam. Europa Leauge beckons. . .

Has that chicken called cesc grown some balls and told that silly old man to free him from bondAge? Abi make we send Daddy GO to use holy ghost fire burn am into submission? Mchew!

At least wenger will be able to use that "we're building a new team. . . . " bull excrement excuse again when all ur betta players don vamoose. Oshi oda.

Pique left barca under different circumstances. Van Gaal pretty much promised him he would never succeed as a defender at Barca and the club kinda forced him out. Pique even swore never to return to barca till the management changed.

Wenger takes advantage of the Spanish laws and that is obvious. What your judgment on the morality or appropriateness of that is is your cup of tea, but let's not distort the facts here. Other clubs interested in our youth players usually don't use such,IMO, sneaky means. So when u guys try to cry about us not meeting your valuation of cesc, remember that u guys never met our price for him in the first place.

No comment. Too busy counting trophies. 

Mobinga:

There's something I don't get, Cesc wants to go to Barcelona, yes, but who does he want to bench? He'd get a maximum of 10 start-ups in an entire season! He's a second class player in Catalonia, but a God/1st class player in London. He shouldn't deceive himself, he'd play as much as he does for Spain.

Word is that Pep wants to play with a 3 man defense next season, and will be using different approaches to games from our already very predictable system. it'll be kinda naive IMO to think we can keep winning forever doing the exact same thing tactically.

Pep is reportedly pissed at Rosell for not sealing the deal, and for the comments made about cesc being worth less now than last year. He really wants cesc.

Wenger is trying to guilt-trip cesc into staying. Cesc has a deep love for Arsenal and wenger is trying to use that as leverage. I hope Cesc dumps those losers tho. Wenger wey never get himself, baba agbaya Oshi. 

4llerbuntu:

as for mata, i keep remembering reyes. all these spanish grown mommies and daddies pets are difficult to buy. next thing now na homesickness u go dy hear. na this one papa be him spokesman. him nor get agent for proffessional things?

Cesc fabregas na Portuguese. I don forget sef. E be like say David silva na from Benin republic.

No be hard man tevez dey cry say him no fit afford plane ticket for him pikin to come Manchester?

Apart from Reyes how many Spanish players have done that? Fernando Torres sef with all him issues didn't pull that.

Kai. . . Spain don show the world pepper for football na to dey playa hate remain now. God dey sha

Coogar Nancy talk say she dey gbadun you o. Oya over to you. Your distance age or color no matter sef na so the love strong reach. dat ur profile go bad gan o.

1.27kg of cocaine is not worth $280,000 of pounds or whatever. Maybe a little over or under a tenth of that.

Alves never said that. That's the press taking a comment, remixing it, and reremixing.

Alves said "“If you see a train passing by, you would want to sit in the business class”

no more no less.