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grandstar:
Stop being sentimental and face the reality. I am not even a fan of Bibi.

The ease at which Israel took out the Hezbollah leader, Nasrallah, speaks volumes. Another is the Iron Dome.

I won't be surprised if Israel has prepared for years for this day when they'll deal decisively with Iran. Israel has advanced western weapons while Iran's are from second rate suppliers like Russia and China. Western made weapons are far more superior.

If Iran had a nuclear bomb, that might change things but it does not. I am also certain that Mossad's agents are everywhere in Iran. It would be easy hiring Iranians in droves who are disgruntled by their oppressive government.

continue deceiving yourself. What is the ease with which Israel wiped out hezbollah leaders? Dropping several 5,000pound bombs on quarters of Nasrallah? Wots so fantastic about that? Or rather what did that achieve for Israel? Cos dis morning alone, Hezbollah still fired about 110 missiles into Israel and killed plus wounded more than 60 IDF soldiers on the northern front! Infact you people should wakeup from this nonsense hero worship of Israel.
Iran has Nuke for your information and Iran is capable of wiping out Israel even without Nuke. Iran has also made a list of Israeli top politicians and military hierarchy they want to assassinate. No one has a monopoly of killing civilians and assassinating people.

abbey621:
How does that relate with the military bases being destroyed? Don't change topic, focus on the LAMBA you provided earlier......Which of the bases was destroyed? O ni ro

it was u who said I was dropping lamba. So I wanted to drop a few more. As for the bases. Iran destroyed a number of bases yesterday, ‘OBVIOUSLY’. So am seriously uncertain, which of the bases you are asking about SPECIFICALLY?
As for cousins. I just dey laugh
Coming from an Israeli government who claimed last night dat all Iranian missiles were intercepted and the Iran operation was a failure? Against the evidences of our own eyes? So better ask your cousins again! There is a total media censorship on effects of Iranian attack by the Israeli government.

abbey621:
Bullshit.....Why una dey like make up rubbish on this platform.....Lying with so much confidence, I have two cousins deployed to those bases and as of this morning both still alive and well, one was even complaining of boredom on Instagram last night......Why the LAMBA?

Ok, here is another ‘LIE’ breaking! You heard it from me first!

Reuters reports that the Israeli ambassador to Cyprus, along with two companions, has been kidnapped along the coast.

Contact with them has been lost for several hours, and they have been taken to an unknown location.
Let me know, if u want more current ‘LIES’

Hmmmmm2024:
Give an Example of the targets ?

Local sources: All military sites that are considered military bases for the Israeli occupation army and are considered the army's operational bases against the Gaza Strip and Lebanon were destroyed.

Whether deployed inside the Gaza Strip in Netzarim or located on the Lebanese border or Gaza, as well as the bases deployed on all fronts of occupied Palestine and the air bases.
Including their Demona nuclear base and all their oil rigs in the Mediterranean Sea
Israel lost so much last night. Even all IDF troops in their Netzarim base in Gaza were not spared

Firebomber:
Another Olofo product of telegram school of brainwashing 😂 😂


Show us those Christians that pray by hitting their head on the ground, 😂 infact they even face that black stone in kaaba too, mumu.

You fake personality, carrying another man’s culture on his head like expired attachment!
Head to the ground is a levant CULTURE.
Prostration in Yoruba land, does not know Christianity or Islam. All Yorubas do it regardless. Same with head to the ground, in the east. But since you photocopying another man’s religion, how will you know this? Shame on you.
Go and do your own research or carry on in your delusion. O.Y.O

Firebomber:
Ani oloriburuku ni e😂 😂

I asked you to show us where it says they slam there head on the ground you are showing us where they bow with there face to the ground.

How is face to the ground the same with knocking your head on the ground. 😂 😂 Olofo just as dumb as your gigolo fake prophet 😂


Well I really won't expect any sane human to be Muslim 😂 😂, educated illiterate head slammers, I'm still waiting for you to show us where the Bible said They slam there head to the ground 😂 😂.

Smile to Jew facing wall while praying is also slamming head right? Werey gbogbo. What did I expect from a dumb black stone worshippers

Mumu
Go to the Middle East and west Asia generally and see that Christians there pray also by hitting their heads on the ground.

Gandrova:
War that Satanyahu can never win.
Relinquished the land confiscated from innocent Palestinians the bastard refused.
Most of the idiots happy with Stupid Satanyahu have mental health issues.

A-swear

bizzibodi:
I pity for d citizens of Iran who are going to die like pigs bc Iran has no missile defense systems I urge IAF to crippled their own production to zero let see how they will sponsor terrorism.

If they attack Iran, Iran will proceed to wipeout Tel Aviv, which is like Israel’s Lagos and Haifa, in less than 15mins, with all the civilians inside it.
Who told you Israel is the only one, who knows how to kill civilians?

Ifybwoy:
This is why it was easy for pedophile Muhammad to deceive you guys into believing that their were 72 virgins in the land of the dead just because his life center on raping 8 year old Aisha and other innocent women.

Israel has 35 F-35 fighter jets and you guys destroyed 20 of them wow😂😂

Another mumu muslim day upload video for YouTube and claiming that isreal has been destroyed just to get views and you guys are busy believing it wow 😂😂

This is why the whole world regards you guys as mumu people 🤣🤣

Mumu
All their bases were struck, both the ones that have F-16s and F-35. Am not saying it was only F-35s that were destroyed. You people’s faith in Israel is not only ridiculous, it’s also grotesquely out of touch with realities on the ground. Some people, even parroted here last night, the narrative, that all of Iran's Missiles actually achieved nothing? Really?
Iran’s attacks were too swift and sudden, just within only 15mins. No enough warning to hide your fighter planes away from harms way. Or wot do you term Israel to be? the best way in keeping fighter planes safe, is keeping them airborne. But in such a case, wen you don’t have enough time to jump into the plane and fly it away, it’s best not to try atall! Cos there is a trick called burning the plane with the pilot inside it. I.e give them a false hope they can make it, just to lure the pilots into their plane, then proceed to burn them down with their planes. Incidentally this trick was invented by the Israelis themselves

LtChisom:
If I ask you for your source now, you will run away, you've not answered me since two days, if wikipedia is bleeped, where is your own source?
And is quran fake as other holy books according to your previous assertions and statements?

Wikipedia is not about the truth but about VIEWPOINTS or talking points. Most view points are ofcourse not necessary true. For instance, yesterday, Wikipedia recorded that IDF entered into Lebanon, WHICH WAS FALSE
Wikipedia said the Lebanese army abandoned their defensive positions on the border, WHICH WAS FALSE. And also that north of Lebanon was now a military zone, WHICH WAS TECHNICALLY FALSE. Yet they were Israeli talking points. They were actually rumored by the IDF as psychological warfare, including finding a Hezbollah tunnel abandoned filled with military equipment. It was all lies.
How can qoran be true? When it purportedly was written around 1538 detailing events that purportedly happened around 600BC? I am not a Muslim, if that’s ur real probe. I already told you what I believed, that there are too many margins of error in ALL supposedly Holy books, which are so implausible, that faith is required to accepting them as true. Remove faith and none of them will stand up to even casual scrutiny.
For my sources on archeological past, I have told you before, I use maps and ancient books. For instance, Herodotus, wrote a book in the 6th century, which is roughly 1,500years ago, describing Palestine and his meeting with people from Palestine. That time, issue of Palestine was not in controversy and Herodotus could never have imagined it would be this controversial in today’s world. So his chances of lying is zero. This is why history books and historical maps from before this period are better guide to the truth. Not imaginary books or fictitious maps!

There are Reports that Israel’s Dimona Nuclear research facility in the Negev desert of southern Israel was also hit tonight.

grandstar:
It's as though Iran just declared war on Israel. This was a big mistake.

Israel's response will be extremely brutal and if care is not taken, might lead to regime change in Iran. That now seems to be Bibi's goal.

A regime change in Iran may just lead to a dictator swap like in Egypt, unless soldiers are barred from contesting elections.

Note: I am not a fan of Bibi, neither do I support useless Hamas. I am neutral.

If anyone is into Futures, this may be the time to buy into crude oil.

Regime change by who? Iranians were the ones who ordered tonight’s strike not the president of Iran Masoud Pezeshkian. There was riots were people told him to resign for refusing to avenge Ismael Haniyeh. The military went ahead without any say so by the president, who many regard as the joe Biden of Iran, i.e brain dead President.
Nothing Israel can do to hurt Iran as great as wot Iran can do to destroy Israel.
Infact my fear is that ISRAEL WILL NOT DO ANYTHING like wen the first attack came in April. If Israel escalate with Iran, there may be no more Israel within a week. At any rate, Israel cannot exceed a few more years in the levant. Cos Israel is an expensive project to maintain, in terms of lives lost, money and so much more. The project is unsustainable.

frog12:
where yu get your news?

from the people that live in those parts. Am actually on the ground in that way.

KingAzubuike:
Na just USA dey always ginger those people. Iran is a military powerhouse and will outmatch them. Their iron dome whatever was put to the test today. It basically failed.

sure.
But Hezbollah was also dealing with Israel SERIOUSLY though it goes largely ignored by news outlets. Number of IDF Hezbollah has killed is far more than Hezbollah fighters and the Hezbollah leaders Israel has killed combined. Drone strike on IDF’s unit 8200 killed 22 senior IDF members and wounded 76. Who ever heard of that?

chikis:
My dear go and look for work. You don pass this kind tin joor.

u are joking?
What he/she is doing is more than work. Even 9-5 work is not as lucrative as corporate begging. Do you know how much he/she has made since morning across multiple SE platforms? Dey play.

frog12:
the only problem i have is why dey have to inform america ahead of time?

israel tell dem before dem missile hezbollah leader?

They did not tell America anything.
America has Iran under watch from space 24/7. They guessed from the military activities around launchers, that something was about to happen. Which still didn’t leave them enough time to deploy their assets fully to intercept the missiles, if that were possible. nor time enough for Israel to even get some of their planes in the air to save them from the explosions at the airbases. Israel lost close to twenty F-35 fighter jets. With each valued at $85million. They lost a lot of Troops too, cos Gaza and Lebanese borders were equally targeted this night by Iran

Empiree:
I watched Satanyahu during speech. He was shaking lol ok. His voice was unstable

True.
I have a video where he was running like a pig to go hide in a shelter shortly before the missiles started raining down on Israel. The man sabi fear sha!

Israel’s oil rig in the Mediterranean were they get over 80% of their gas was hit by Iran as well. Maybe to avenger Houthi.

HonNL:
https://news.sky.com/story/israel-hezbollah-lebanon-war-latest-sky-news-live-12978800?postid=8368562#liveblog-body

I hope Israel will reply soon. So that Iran will wipe dem off finally
May god punish Israel, a cursed entity

Enemy media: A large number of F35 aircraft were destroyed at military airports

Some media reports go far as 20 aircrafts destroyed and counting 😁

Holyfic:
ma yansh dumb people ineffective my ass

no mind d Mumu. Yeye Dey smell
Them finish all their military airfields. Israel planes dey Cyprus now.

Local sources: All military sites that are considered military bases for the Israeli occupation army and are considered the army's operational bases against the Gaza Strip and Lebanon were destroyed.

Whether deployed inside the Gaza Strip in Netzarim or located on the Lebanese border or Gaza, as well as the bases deployed on all fronts of occupied Palestine and the air bases.

MessiReturns:
we go join hands put him where he belongs

A leading source in Hezbollah to Al Jazeera:

Most of the bases targeted in "israel" were directly hit, especially the air bases

Most of the strike's objectives were achieved according to the plan

The Nevatim, Hatzarim, Tel Nof, Netzarim and Glilot bases were targeted

The size of the israeli missile interception was weak

It was confirmed that there were major casualties among israeli soldiers

Ovacoma:
Timesupnababa=krismas, the top comedian and liar on nairaland

Part of the destruction in "Hod Hasharon" in central occupied Palestine, as a result of the Iranian missile attack.

Samakus:
Let's have it. Long overdue


Iran 2 :0 Isreal

Iran has attacked Isreal unprovoked and nobody is shouting genocide.

Isreal over to you!

😁

Kukutenla:
6. You don't have a point. Your initial point was that defection is wrong and only happens in places like Nigeria. After I showed you Senators defecting in the US, you've been going round and round looking for untenable excuses and ad hominiems instead of admitting that there is nothing basically wrong with defecting especially when you are not in office.

7. I've been pointing out to you that you know next to nothing about politics. Let me shock you. Fayose got zero votes in the PDP primaries. That's why I didn't even know he contested. This means even he never voted for himself and his delegates from Ekiti, none voted for him including his ward. So who did they vote for? Same Fayose had already said he will support Wike for the presidency before he now came out to say he will contest. Again, Kwankwaso did not contest for presidency in PDP. Tambuwal was gov of Sokoto state not Kano. Wike expected Tambuwal to reciprocate his support for him in 2019. In fact, he believed Tambuwal running favoured him as it will help him split the northern delegates votes. That's why he was shocked when Tambuwal withdrew for Atiku. If you don't understand these calculations, you don't know anything about politics. Again, you are simply telling lies. The committee wanted to zone to the South obviously to favour Wike. The northern elements insisted that the zoning should be to the SE. If Wike and his group's interest was all about southern presidency, why didn't they accept that offer and push one of Ikpeazu or Ugwuanyi who are members of G5 and from SE forward as their preferred choice? They didn't because it was all about Wike. Wike is not South. If you can't see the difference between the two na you com know. Again, Ortom as the chairman of the committee had the power and influence to deliver the zoning verdict. They couldn't do so because of their selfish interests. Kwankwaso left PDP in March 2022. PDP primaries held in May. So I ask you how Kwankwaso contested primary in PDP when he already left PDP two months before the primaries held?

6. Point of correction, I already knew that there are rare defections in America. I didn’t learn that newly from u. The cases are always people leaving either of the two major parties to independent candidates or to relatively unknown parties. And they always defend their reason on policy issue.
Specter case is the one I have never heard before and I dared you to give me another specter. And am still maintaining its wrong. I never said it’s not wrong. So what are you talking about?

7. I have to apologize for missing up Ganduje of Kano wit Tambuwal of sokoto.
Equally I have been conflicting Tambuwal with Kwankwaso. These are my only errors so far.
Aside that, you are politically empty!

a. The party never considered Micro-Zoning to SE. Ayu only talked about zoning to the south. I gave you the link b4. Here is it again

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/519478-2023-why-pdpll-maintain-its-zoning-policy-ayu.html?tztc=1

b. Southern PDP governors meet and deliberated that it should be zoned to the south, not cause of Wike, because A NORTHERNER HAD JUST COMPLETED 8yrs and it should therefore rotate to south. That was the logic of the party and the southern governors forum. The forum never agreed to micro-zone to SE. so what’s Wike’s fault in that?

c. You have no single proof the northern contestants wanted it zoned to SE as condition for backing off. Don’t repeat this LIE again if you cannot prove it. The former VP may have said it. Cos he knew it won’t happen. As for Tambuwal, he clearly said, the last president of PDP was GEJ from S.S. Such dat if PDP should zone atall, it should be to the north. He believed it is APC who should zone south cos their last president had been from North. Tambuwal, Saraki and other northern contestants NEVER advocated zoning to SE. Do yourself some education by reading what they all said back then. It’s still on the net.

d. Fayose did not need to contest to support. He simply did not win. It was not a strategy or any political maneuver. Ortom himself, another member of the G5 said god told him not to contest. It was not to help Wike, dats not why he didn’t contest.

e. Who on earth gave Ortom power to order for zoning simply because he was chairman of the committee? Had PDP zoned it, There would have been mass defections from the party like 2015 under GEJ. That why the committee was setup, to iron out the zoning differences. Since the committee could not bridge the contentions, they recommend it be thrown open, which was a wise decision.

Stop lying.

Kukutenla:
It is you who have been telling lies in this conversation.

As I already said, you did not check the list. You saw the list and started meaningless argument of mega to unknown party. What does that nonsense even mean? Anyway, go back to the list. Check Arlen Specter who moved in 2009 from Republican to Democrat. What will be your new excuse now?

My first assertion still stands that you don't know jack. It was Wike who instigated the NWC to hand over the NW Zonal committee chair to Tambuwal believing that Tambuwal will support him instead of Kwankwaso. That is what led to Kwanwaso's exit from the PDP. It was Ortom who headed the committee on zoning and he was a member of the G5. Why didn't he recommend zoning? Stop burying your head from facts Mr Man. You said Southern Govs Forum asked for zoning. Ortom was a friend to four southern govs. He is the only gov from the north who is part of G5. Why didn't his committee zone the ticket?

Fayose contested for presidency? When? The kind of things you type self. I don't know what to place you as

6. If you don’t understand my point about moving from a Mega party to a inconspicuous party, it’s up to u. Specter is a point for you. I concede. But he was a republican senate for 29yrs turned democrat for 1yr out of his 30yr career? Why may dat be? At any rate, I doubt if you can find another Specter in America. He is the exception, not the norm.

7. You that know something! How on earth will Tambuwal be supporting Wike presidency when Tambuwal himself was contesting? You fvcked up b4 saying Kwankwaso did not contest in PDP, then you fvckup again saying Fayose did not contest? Yet u believe you know politics?
Tambuwal was sitting governor of Kano state as at 2022 when it all happened, not Kwankwaso. I wonder who should have more influence? It was the party that zoned NW VICE CHAIRMAN slot to Kano state, not Wike. It wasn’t even chairman slot o! But vice-chair, was the slot zoned to Kano state. Kwankwaso brought forward a candidate and governor brought his own candidate. Kwankwaso did not have his way, so he left the party. How does this concern Wike? Who is the governor of Kano then by the way? Why did Kwankwaso think his candidate will win over governor candidate?
Then, WHY WOULD THERE BE A COMMITTEE ON ZONING? If there was NO CONTROVERSY ON ZONING? The committee was setup to iron out the controversy. Was Ortom the only member of the committee? The party wanted zoning, but powerful northern politicians rejected it. So the committee recommended that it be thrown open.
Cos the way you keep saying Ortom should have stopped it from being thrown open as chair of a committee looks too fake to me. Is Ortom the owner of the party? Is G5 the only members of the party?
All that is BY THE WAY.
You are merely trying to dodge the issue. You said the former Vice President said he will drop out of the race if it was microzoned to SE. so I ask u for the LAST TIME. Is that what other contestants like Kwankwaso agreed upon? Cos to you, Wike was not interested in any other southern person aside himself cos he did not allow microzoning which would have removed the former VP.
Was the former VP the only northern candidate in the race?

Kukutenla:
Lol. It's obvious your confusion. Whether parliamentary or presidential or military, president na president. It is just a title and not specifically reserved for only those elected democratically. So rest with all this confusion you're giving yourself. Yaradua was not the first president to die in office.
6. After showing you people that defected, you're now making excuses for them and putting one defection above the other. You need to rest lad. You don't know jack about politics. If you scroll up the screenshot, you'll see a senator who defected from republican to democrat in the US. What will be your excuse now? It is even childish to think people defect and start explaining why they defected. And giving such infantile explanation that you're just getting to know whatever. The question is why you ran on a party you don't agree with ideologically in the first place. I hope you know Nigeria does not have independent candidacy.
Which Kwankwaso? The one who already was in NNPP or another one? Kwankwaso left PDP due to Wike's inanities as well. He wanted to be given the chance to produce the National Vice chair for NW which Wike and his gang refused. Atiku said so and I can prove it to you if you want. I'm not like you who makes a claim he can't prove. G5 never wanted it zoned to the south. They wanted it zoned to Wike. I already explained to you that if it came south, then as far as PDP was concerned, it would have gone to SE. If G5 were against Atiku because of Jonathan, why did they work for him in 2019? You don't know anything about politics abeg

2,3. All you do is ARGUE BLINDLY

6. Trump gave reasons why he moved to Democrat party. You don’t understand how clownish it looks moving up and down. The examples you showed moved from mega party to insignificant party where they CANT WIN ELECTIONS. Dats wot I pointed out. Why not show me those you claim went from mega to mega?

7. Kwankwaso left PDP cos of his tussle with Tambuwal. What has that got to do with Wike? As for fact that PDP was flip flopping on zoning, and that Kwankwaso and former VP rejected it, check below

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/519478-2023-why-pdpll-maintain-its-zoning-policy-ayu.html

Lastly, if G5 was trying to install Wike as presidential nominee, why will Fayose who was a member of the G5 contest?
You are the one who knows nothing about politics, confidently talking rubbish!

LtChisom:
You didn't answer my last question?

You said all holy books including quran is fake right?

There is another -72 virgins in the capital of lebanon, beirut. Allah did it for the leader of Hezbollah. You see how great allah is for muslims.

What has the assassinations changed? Hezbollah has been hitting Jerusalem and West Bank with barrages of rockets back to back since last week without break! More and more people are living in shelters in Israel nowadays. Leaving their businesses to suffer, and Hezbollah is killing a lot of IDF fighters daily which goes on reported and damaging key military assets in Israel which is always dismissed as empty spaces or chicken coop. Hezbollah is stronger than ever and the assassinations is merely waste of money. Even Russia does not use 5000pound bombs in Ukraine, which Israel used to kill nasrallah. As for holy books, non of them is true. What else u want me to say?

Kukutenla:
What does it mean to be president? Abacha's official appellation was President. What you might be clarifying is democratically elected president. Heck, even Nnamdi Azikiwe was President . So Murtala was actually the first President to die in office. Sorry. That's the fact.

6. Always cultivate the habit to scroll through things to the end. Here's the ending in the screenshot below. 2009, 2006, 2022 even this 2024!! And I don't know what you mean by unknown party. You seem to just enjoy typing sha

G5 never felt it was the turn of the south. They felt it was Wike's turn. If they actually wanted the South and not a particular individual, they would have jumped at the North PDP's offer of microzoning to the SE. They didn't because that does not suit their plans. Wike instigated the exit of Umahi from PDP. He instigated the exit of Obi from PDP. Yet you claim he wants a southern President. Southern indeed. The G5 cannot be in a position to pontificate on defection. Ortom defected from PDP to APC and then back to PDP. Seyi Makinde was not a member of PDP before. So what right do they have to condemn defection? In any case, they never did. That's simply a figment of your imagination. You already defeated your claim that Presidential contest is between North and South by mentioning OBJ. Zoning is not cast in stone. You're only buttressing my point that politicians subscribe to zoning only when it favours their interest. When it favours their proclivities, I'm sure they will support micro-zoning. There is no morality in picking and choosing how zoning should happen. Right now, a lot of people are of the opinion that the presidency should go to NC or NE in 2031 and not NW because they have had Buhari and Yaradua. Do you think that is wrong thinking as well?

2,3. Presidency in a parliamentary system is not the same as presidency in a presidential system. They don’t have the same ROLE or powers. Under the presidential system, you must win an election and be sworn in according to the constitution. Military coups are illegal according to the constitution, hence every successful coup, first bans the constitution. Military rulers are dictators and no such role is available under the presidential system. So calling Abacha President or Muritala President should be coming from political ignorance. It matters for nothing whether they call themselves such. It’s a waste of time. Yar’adua is the first President to die in office.

6. The reason why elected people don’t cross carpet in America is cos each party have their different set of policies. If you campaigned on one of the MAJOR party platform, is because you don’t believe in the other party. Keep in mind America is mainly TWO PARTY SYSTEM. If you as an elected Democrat, cross carpet to republican, you can no longer convince any electorate that you know what you are doing. How can someone elected into PDP go to APC. It means you stand for NOTHING.
But you could change into an independent or a relatively new party or an unknown party AND DEFEND IT THAT YOU JUST GETTING TO KNOW THAT THE GREEN PARTY POLICIES ARE BETTER THAN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Cos the party is relatively new or not well known. Check your list again, the politicians on it were crossing from a major party to a nothing party from where they cannot win elections.

7. Kwankwaso was also at that convention. He never said he will step down if it’s zoned to south east. U need to stop lying. There is a reason why the former VP said wot he said. It’s not rocket science if you know him at all. G5 wanted it zoned to the south. Not microzoned to SE.
The former VP always thinks he should be the center of gravity of every party. He goes about looking to be flagbearer. If he didn’t get the flag in PDP 2023, it’s likely he would have left the party. G5 also took his treatment of GEJ against him. He abandoned GEJ in the name of Zoning, to go help another party and yet wants to be flag bearer in PDP cos he couldn’t get flag in APC? If he got the APC flag, will he have returned to PDP? So such self centered politics will backfire at some point.

Kukutenla:
1. This one you are skipping like a girl with rope. Don't go and fall o
2. I thought you said you know politics. Is death the only reason the VP can vacate office? If zoning was a law, in such a situation as Jonathan's in 2010, there will be 2 availabale options: either resign on the spot and let the SP take over or, finish the term and stand down at the next election for contestant from the preferred zone like OBJ did in 1976 and Abdulsalam did in 1999. The problem with zoning as I already told you is that it is more of a political weapon than a democratic ideal. By virtue of zoning, the second term option is academic as the incumbent is almost already assured of votes from the waiting region who will not run the risk of having a new President who will also want his own 8years. Thus zoning will promote what it is promoting now. Nepotism and more corruption since it signals "turn by turn" politics which will in turn birth "chop I chop". There is no developed democracy anywhere in the world that practices zoning. Zoning is a sign of mistrust among the groups making up Nigeria. It is simpy not good and politicians only introduce it to get an advantage over each other.
3. I thought you knew Nigerian political history well enough. Abacha transmuted already to a military President and was already on his way to transmuting to civilian. Murtala used to also refer to himself as President.
5. GEJ never said so. It was Makarfi and later Tukur who said so in Kano that GEJ had agreed to do only one term. The man was present there but he never uttered a Yes or No.
6. You'll be surprised! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_senators_who_switched_parties
If you do not see anything wrong with Donald Trump switching parties when he was out of office, was Atiku in office in 2014 and 2018?
7. Wike did not want zoning cause he knew the automatic implication would be that it will be microzoned to the SE. 1999 is a very good example in PDP. The Presidential ticket was microzoned to SW. So there's precedent for that. SW and SS have produced Presidents in PDP so it was obvious that the SE would have been the natural region to benefit from zoning in PDP. You have not explained why Ortom's zoining committee threw the ticket open and today he is part of G5 fighting for "justice, equity and fairness" in Wike's voice. Meanwhile the same Ortom's tribe Tiv have been producing govs in Benue since the creation of the state and he is yet to stand for such principles in his state. There are no powerful forces anywhere save for the forces of selfishness and arrogance on the part of Wike. It was an open secret within PDP that Atiku said he will withdraw from the race if the ticket was zoned to SE. Why didn't Wike take that opportunity and agree for the ticket to go to SE? That's actually the fairest move for even APC. Wike overrated his importance and that's why he has become petulant and irritable since then. You think in his mind he's truly happy to be playing spoiler? Which big politician wants to waste his time being a spoiler when he can increase his network and test his popularity by running for any office of his choice? Wike always considered himself the biggest politician from the South in PDP. That he could be overlooked for an Okowa is something to hard for him to stomach

2,3. You need to clear up your confusion about military and civilian rule first.
The military are never guided by the constitution. It’s the first thing they suspend as soon as they come in. It doesn’t matter whether a military head of state calls himself president or emperor. He is not president. No president of Nigeria has died in office b4 Yar’adua. That needs to be cleared out of the way first.
6. All the names on your list, actually moved from a main stream party to an unknown party and that was in the 19th and 20th century? How relevant is your link.
Trump never held any office as a Democrat, while the other man had been Vice President in PDP b4 going to APC. No comparison btw the two
7. I am not holding brief for Wike or any politician. I do not like politicians generally.
But you are the one twisting Wikes grievances. If you call him all those names, he wasn’t the only one with the grievances. The G5 felt it was the turn of the south.
The G5 felt a certain VP who runs from party to party should be least qualified to be flag bearer ahead of those who have remained loyal building the party.
There were other northerners too, who insisted it was the time for north in 2023. So anyone saying he will step down, should it be zoned to SE cannot impress Wike. Or was it the whole north who said that?
Ortom knew the right thing to do when there was no consensus on zoning was to throw the process open. Nevertheless Ortom is one of those who believed it should be zoned south. Presidential zoning was ever only btw north and south. No-one zoned SS for GEJ or so. OBJ’s case was also unique cos of Abiola, who was believed to have won the election but was denied.
Otherwise, If it comes to south, let SE SS SW battle it out among themselves. That was Wike’s understanding.
Okowa, while pretending to support zoning was actually working for the former VP. That’s how he got VP.

Morbeta11:
https://punchng.com/i-dont-feel-bad-leaving-music-for-sick-son-stella-monye/

Oh my gwad! Is this not the woman who kept insulting Sony Okosuns of blessed memory?