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Those warring parties have prepared for any eventuality should i case World War starts. You are in Nigeria where your government never prepare for the next one hour. Ordinar Boko Haram abd bandits, they can't defaet. And you are there calling for war. Israel, USA, Russia and Iran have what to shield or deflect missiles. If missile missed road and enter Nigeria, do you think it will differentiate between Muslim or Christian before it claims it casualty.

During Covid, we saw how the government of these countries catered for their citizens. They provide food and other essentials for them. Your own government and their collaborators hoarded the palliatives throwing you into hunger and hardship.

Then, you are in that country where nobody cares for your wellbeing, you are calling for war.

Ebi a pa , shege si e lara.

People like that are the reasons Canada is making stringent rules on the international students. They get to Canada and then claim an asylum because they do nothave the school fees

Chidirolex:
Hello guys good evening.

Please what do you think about the University of Niagara falls Canada.

A friend just got admission into the MSc for Data Analytics program.

Major challenge is also the area and if it's a good place to find work that could help pay up the school fees.

Please your input is really needed right now.

Thanks

Not totally true. Yes, UN funds refugees but not those who seek asylum within Canada. The consensus among the Canadian politcians is that the integrity of they immigration system has been compromised by some international students. The mood of most Canadians now is not favourable to international student program. They said virtually everybody coming to Canada to study are not real students. They said they are immigrants who see student route as a back door to PR.

Before the visa officer approve your study permit, you must convince the officer that you are a BONAFIDE STUDENT not an immigrant. But today, the way the international students conduct themselves is like rubbing it on their face that they are not bonafide students but immigrants.

1. Some abandon their classes and started doing work 24/7

2. Some brought their spouses in, when the spouse on open work permit got PR, they asked the school to convert their fees to domestic fees. Some withdrew from school completely because there was no need to continue studying since they got PR already.

3. Some abandoned their study and claimed an asylum.

4. Some came with a program of three years, once they arrived Canada, they quickly looked for a program of 8 months because it is shorter route to get PR.

oluayebenz:
Hmmm we learn everyday

They said that the integrity of the immigration system has been bastardised. The PR pathway is just a priviledge for the intetnational students. Section 216 of the IRPA that establishes international student program wants those coming to Canada to be bonafide students. But the way we conduct ourselves has proven to them that we not bonafide students. We have splashed to their face that we are immigrants.

Jeboy:
Well, someone thinking of doing PR before will find it useful. The most shocking for me is the changing of the rule for SOWP for spouse of Masters programme. It must be 16 months (2 years) in length. Then the spouse applying for SOWP must also be in TEER 0 or 1 (Management or Professional) classification of employment or any employment in labour shortage. Canada don vex oh. This regime is trying too much to favour her citizens because of elections.

You need to ignore some online lunatics. He has just been discharged from Aro

nairaman66:
If that what is contained on freedom of information act? Or you have lost your sense of reasoning too?

Be patient, it looks towards positive.
If you disturb them they may be vex and refuse you

tobe1997:
Hello Everyone, what's the advised frequency to send webforms. I submitted my husbands SOWP back I'm June and it's almost getting past the processing time. We had a medicals update on August 6th but nothing since then. Should I be sending this webform message everyday?

Thank you

Dont quit, get the GCMS notes and reapply. But be careful with any information and documents that you will use to reapply

kobobay:
I am a student in Canada unfortunately my family application is refused the second time for this reason:

The compensation (monetary or other) indicated in your job offer and your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).

we applied for open work spousal permit and kids Study Permit.
I told my wife that I am done applying, this is not a best time to apply.

It is real. If not that it is illegal to reveal identity (Privacy Act) in Canada, I would have given name, and application numbers. IRCC is now scrutinizing bank statements for SOWP applications. They have discovered that most people do not have the money that they claim they have in their bank statements. People should be very careful with what they submit now. Presently, the number of temporary residents in Canada is more than their PR slots. They are looking for a way to send some people home after their studies. Please do not give them the rope they will use to tie you. If you work more than the allowed 20 hrs, you are giving the rope they will use to hang you.

A word is enough for the wise.

sunwintrav:
If this is real, i give thanks to God in my application.

The husband and wife would be going tru alot of mental distress.

These Canada immigration need to take it easy with couples.

The combatants in the picture were displayed at various states during the last ENDBADGOVERNANCE protest against the armless protesters. If just one-third of these combatants are moblised against the bandits. Kidnapping would have been a thing of the past in Nigeria.

But insecurity is a multi billion naira investment.

Using a third party for POF is a red flag. Also be careful with this move. Let me share a recent case with you.

A Masters student wanted to bring his family to Canada. He did not have the required POF. He then asked people to boost his account with funds. He got the required POF and submitted the SOWP application in March 2024. In May 2024, medical request was sent, and was done. In June 2024, IRCC sent an ADR for an updated bank statement from the day the applucation was submitted till date.

This was where the problem started. The money that were transferred to the POF account were returned immediately the application was submitted. After the updated bank statement was submitted, he got a PFL from the IRCC to explain why those money were withdrawn after the application. They also queried the recent lump sum into the account to boost the fund. He responded to the letter. In the first week of August, the application was refused for misreprensentation and the wife and the three children were rendered inadmissible to Canada for 5 years.

See what desperation has caused him. The implication of this is that the husband studying presently in Canada wont get PR based on the admissibility issue. Based on Section 42(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, he will also be rendered inadmissible to qualify for PR.

READ!

42 (1) A foreign national, other than a protected person, is inadmissible on grounds of an inadmissible family member if

(a) their accompanying family member or, in prescribed circumstances, their non-accompanying family member is inadmissible; or

(b) they are an accompanying family member of an inadmissible person.

Nauttyprof:
Hello guys, I need your advice on this matter. I am presently in Canada studying and I want my family to join me here. I have an individual (not a relative) who wants to sponsor my family to Canada and his statement of account meets or is more than sufficient for the proof of funds requirements. He has also confirmed that the letter he gives together with statement of account can be notarized by me. Also, I have little savings which I can add to support the application for my family.

Kindly advise me on the best way to go about the proof of funds thing based on the above narration.

This is another rumour:

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2024/08/26/canada-international-students-deportation-protests/

Thats why some people call it rumour, but for every rumour, there is an iota of truth. Wait till it finally come out and come back yo me

Bobomaigida:
The minister did not mention any number na, please where did the 850,000 number come from?

For those who still hold the belief that everything we are saying is a rumour, please read this:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/immigration-minister-says-upcoming-changes-to-permanent-resident-levels-not-cosmetic-but-significant-1.7015113

This is the interview the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration granted the CTV News. Canada is planning to reduce the immigration level plans for the permanent residents. The present immigration level initially was to admit up to 1.6 million PRs in the next three years. Now they want to reduce the number to like about 850,000. The big issue now is that presently, Canada has more than 2 million temporary residents including students and their family members. The implication of this is that not all the students currently studying and their family members will get PR. They are trying to enforce Section 216(b) and 200(b) of the IRPR. Those are the sections we all agreed to before the IRCC granted the permits.

If the above is underway, please tell me the motivation for them to bring in more temporary residents.

Common sense!

They still allow, but they may delay processing it.

acelaw:
Thank you @Kurukuru. Does it mean then that as a result of the strict immigration rules provinces no longer allow spouses on SOWP to apply for PR after working for 6 months while their partner is still in school even if the school fees have been paid in full.

Congratulations

Bernyone:
Hello guys! Just thought to post to encourage everyone waiting.

ITS PPR FOR ME!!!!!

My husband originally applied May 10th for his study permit trv and got his ppr on the 7th of June.

Without paying school fees, we proceeded to do upfront medicals and submitted my sowp application June 22nd. Timeline is as follows:

Upfront medicals
SOWP Application: June 22nd
Biometrics: June 24th
Medicals passed: August 14th
Eligibility and PPR: August 22nd.

To the glory of God. God did it for my husband and I.

Let's keep trusting God and our testimonies will be assured.

When did you apply for SOWP for your spouse? Did you get PGWP after submitting the SOWP?

Timegi99:
I have applied for my spouse in June but not gotten a response. I am on PGWP.

You are correct. We are not as many as Indians, but Indians are modest in their approach to immigration. They are always careful not to spoil opportunities fir others, but for Nigerians , they do not care. I talked to one Nigerian that what he was doing would spoil opportunity for others. He said "I don't care about others, let me get my own. Once I get my own, if they like, they should close everything"

Can you imagine this selfish statement

Jeboy:
Oops.

We don't migrate like Indians and Chinese in terms of numbers but these guys are very modest in the steeze.

We must ensure we spoil opportunity for others just to get ahead. God go help us.

@Koreanlord

Don't be discouraged. By their statements we shall know them. People like them are the one spoiling the ground for other people when they enter Canada. They see any idea or information contrary to their desperate expectation as hostility.

Newfoundland was the easiest province to get PR. Before, just got any job, you would be nominated for Provincial Nominee. Some desperate students and their spouses came, just because they wanted to beat the system, they abused the integrity of the immigration system. The way Canada immigration is structured is that you transit from work permit to PR. Thats why students are given Postgraduate Work Permit after graduation. What the students did was that they did not have the money they claimed they had.They came to Canada empty handed despite presenting a bogus bank statement to the IRCC, when they arrived Canada, they paid part of the tuition fees, They hurriedly broought their spouses in to work in order to pay the school fees. Once the spouse worked 6 months on the work permit, they hurriedly apply for PR. Since the Newfoundland immigration system was the fastest, they got PR faster. They went back to the school that they are now permabent residents, and such they should convert their tuition to domestic fees including the ones they were owing. Some even applied for PR when still schooling because Canada allowed them to work full time.

We warned them but they called us names. Now, Newfoundland has come up with stricter requirements for their PR

Jeboy:
I was just appalled by the comments. Maybe I will just stop commenting. People have built this community with contribution just because you got approved you have turned to a motivational speaker and damming all the ircc issues we have eaelier highlighted.

Thank you @Kurukuru for stating the obvious.

Congratulations.
However, you do not need to abuse people just because you are approved. Those people you are attacking only gave information on what they heard. When Canada started giving out visas to spouses. It was through the informwtion sharing like this that people like you got to know. For that fact that Canada is now being strict with visa does not mean some lucky applications will not be approved. The truth there is that it wont be "yafun yafun" like before. For your information, the restrictions on the issuance of work permit is not a rumour, it is real. Please read the below:

Today, the Honourable Randy Boissonnault, Minister of Employment, Workforce Development and Official Languages, convened representatives from Canada’s largest business associations with one clear message: the TFW Program cannot be used to circumvent hiring talented workers in Canada, and the federal government will take further action to weed out misuse and fraud within the system.

During today’s meeting, Minister Boissonnault outlined the following actions that are being implemented to reduce the use of temporary foreign workers in Canada:

• Enforcing consistent application of the 20 per cent cap policy for temporary foreign workers. This includes the policy for the “dual intent sub-stream”, which applies to temporary foreign workers who intend to apply for permanent residency. Employers using this stream will be subject to more stringent guidelines;

• Applying a stricter and more rigorous oversight in high-risk areas when processing Labour Market Impact Assessments (LMIAs) and when conducting inspections;  

• Considering LMIA fee increases to pay for additional integrity and processing activities; and,

• Looking to implement future regulatory changes regarding employer eligibility (factors such as a minimum number of years of business operations or history of lay-offs by the employer).


Minister Boissonnault also informed business associations that he is considering implementing refusal to process under the low wage stream. If implemented, this would prevent employers in certain areas and industries from using the TFW Program. Additionally, the Government is working on modernizing the TFW Program with a new foreign labour stream for Agriculture and Fish & Seafood Processing, as announced in Budget 2022.

AdoChel:
My spouse's visa was approved today. We applied May 3rd. Every nonsense rumour should go and jump inside river. Stay hopeful folks!

I learnt it from a reliable source that Canada is strictly limiting tje issuance of work permits. Another issue there is that the number of international students in Canada is more than the immigration target numbers, and Canadians don't want to hear any increase in immigration targets. So many students may not get PR. PGWP will no more be automatic. It will be based on the discretion of the IRCC. So, granting of SOWP will defeat their restriction plan

Jeboy:
Unemployment rate has increased in Canada recently and the rumors is that a lot of us Foreign Workere don't really have the money but we just use "show fund" to get SOWP and come and add up to Unemployment rate in Canada with the hope of getting a job to pay school fees for our spouses.

What could make SOWP which is standard 3 months change suddenly? Just rumors from some immigration consultants I chatted with who are based in Canada when I asked them about the reason for the delay for Foreign Workers approval.

Another thing they said agaim is that Miller might be cooking some updates too for Foreign Workers permit policies.

The bitter truth is that Canada is not interested in giving out any work permit now. Everywhere is red as far as the labour market is concern. Even many of the students currently studying may not get PR.

evansky:
Not all, I got my SOWP less than a month after submission. I think it depends on who’s processing your application and how fast your documents are being verified. Then 80% luck 😂

They are not expediting the SOWP for students now. They have found that many students do not have the funds for their study. Those students allegedly depend on their spouses full time work to fund their studies.

Bobomaigida:
the policy has affected many would be applicants, and processing times for SOWP seems to be longer now.

Initially, they were priotizing the SOWP, but they discovered that many students do not have the funds they claim they have to fund their studies. Some would pay a fraction of the tuition fees, waiting for the spouse to arrive and start working to support the tuition fees payment. They want the student to go far in his/her study before they allow the spouse in.

Bobomaigida:
Just be patient, I do not think they are really prioritizing SOWP applications presently. At the end sha, they will still treat it.

They might have marked your eligibility as "REVIEW REQUIRED"

Bolex247:
Although this is not my first Application maybe that's why it's taking so much long, I don't know why.

Good day everybody, please permit me to give my opinion on the recent changes in the Canadian student immigration process, and its implications on the future spousal open work permit.

I am not a lawyer but I am a bit familiar with the Canada immigration events. One of the major red flags the visa officer relies on to refuse temporary resident applications is the presence of family member in Canada. Although there are mixed jurisprudence on this subject matter. Some judges like Justice Joseph Shore had ruled in Bteich v The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration that it is unreasonable for the office to conclude that applicant will illegally live in Canada simply because of the family ties in Canada, some Judges like Justice Diner in Hajiyeva v. The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration ruled that the presence of an immediate family member in Canada such as applicant's spouse was a reasonable factor to refuse an application. Justice Diner ruled as follows:

"while the Applicant’s parents and brother would remain in Azerbaijan, her immediate family (husband and children) would join her in Canada; she indicated her husband would obtain a work permit and gain international work experience, and her children would attend school and be exposed to Canadian values. The Officer’s finding regarding her incentives to remain in Canada were reasonable. Here, the finding that her evidence and supporting documentation fell short of demonstrating that she would leave Canada at the end of her study period was open to the Officer"
This concern was mostly overcome in the past by the spouses of international students applying for the Spousal open work permit by the dual intent doctrine. The dual intent favoured the spouses of international students because the international students would gain a Post Graduate Work Permit and apply for PR. Now that Canada is planning to change their law in relation to the postgraduate work permit, the issuance of postgraduate work permit will no more be automatic. Issuance will not be based on the Canada labour needs. The implication of this is that there is no more automatic pathway to PR for the international students. Therefore, dual intent wont be helpful to the spouses of the international students who will be applying for spousal open work permit.



All our emotional explanation of "I want to be with my husband because of bla bla bla" in the context of spousal open work permit may simply be no way to overcome the pure mathematics of the family members by our emotional explanation and our country of origin where evrrybody wants tp japa. These Oyinbos are aware of these facts. One might need to be a bit cautious in seemingly explaining the family’s plans to ‘settle’ in Canada (as workers and students) and how that may detract from both the study plan but also create the reasonableness of an intention to immigrate or stay permanently especially if dual intention is otherwise not established.

Thank you.

Good day everybody, please permit me to give my opinion on the recent changes in the Canadian student immigration process, and its implications on the future spousal open work permit.

I am not a lawyer but I am a bit familiar with the Canada immigration events. One of the major red flags the visa officer relies on to refuse temporary resident applications is the presence of family member in Canada. Although there are mixed jurisprudence on this subject matter. Some judges like Justice Joseph Shore had ruled in Bteich v The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration that it is unreasonable for the office to conclude that applicant will illegally live in Canada simply because of the family ties in Canada, some Judges like Justice Diner in Hajiyeva v. The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration ruled that the presence of an immediate family member in Canada such as applicant's spouse was a reasonable factor to refuse an application. Justice Diner ruled as follows:

"while the Applicant’s parents and brother would remain in Azerbaijan, her immediate family (husband and children) would join her in Canada; she indicated her husband would obtain a work permit and gain international work experience, and her children would attend school and be exposed to Canadian values. The Officer’s finding regarding her incentives to remain in Canada were reasonable. Here, the finding that her evidence and supporting documentation fell short of demonstrating that she would leave Canada at the end of her study period was open to the Officer"
This concern was mostly overcome in the past by the spouses of international students applying for the Spousal open work permit by the dual intent doctrine. The dual intent favoured the spouses of international students because the international students would gain a Post Graduate Work Permit and apply for PR. Now that Canada is planning to change their law in relation to the postgraduate work permit, the issuance of postgraduate work permit will no more be automatic. Issuance will now be based on the Canada labour needs. The implication of this is that there is no more automatic pathway to PR for the international students. Therefore, dual intent wont be helpful to the spouses of the international students who will be applying for spousal open work permit.



All our emotional explanation of "I want to be with my husband because of bla bla bla" in the context of spousal open work permit may simply be no way to overcome the pure mathematics of the family members by our emotional explanation and our country of origin where evrrybody wants tp japa. These Oyinbos are aware of these facts. One might need to be a bit cautious in seemingly explaining the family’s plans to ‘settle’ in Canada (as workers and students) and how that may detract from both the study plan but also create the reasonableness of an intention to immigrate or stay permanently especially if dual intention is otherwise not established.

Thank you.

Contact me with pm. You stand a good chance

Realme45:
I was refused visa on May 22. I followed what I learned on this platform to apply for my visa. I must have missed something along the line. Please, I need help as my program is starting in the last week of August, I waited for the GCMS note before reaching out. I want to reapply immediately.
I am going for a one-year postgraduate certificate program. I paid my one-year tuition in full and submitted a POF of 31.25 million Naira with the explanation that my elder brother added some money to support me. I also included a letter of support from him.
I submitted my PAL alongside other documents. For the POF, 30 million Naira was in Access bank statement of account while 1.25 million was in GTbank statement. I stated in my SOP that I would be living my children and my husband behind. I ordered for GCMS note and the explanation is as follows: bank statement of Gtco does appears inconsistent and usual with other similar bank statement , this is an aggravating factor in my assessment, I have concerns the applicants does not have sufficient finance readily available to cover their living cost during their stay in Canada...

Making an application online is not the issue. Where the issue comes is Capturing. Online application has been there before Tinubu even came to power. It is the appointment for capturing that is the problem.

Go and read the IRPA very well. The essence of the Spousal Open Work is not primarily to unite the families. It is under the International Mobility Pprogram aimed at supplementing the Canadian labour force. When the Trudea Government took over, he wrote a Mandate Letter to the Minister of Immigration to address the Canadian Labour shortage by uniting families through the Spousal Open Work Permit program. That's why some people believe it is meant to re-unite families. Now, Canada is facing housing crisis and many white Canadians are complaining that foreign students and their families they are bringing to Canada are taking jobs away from them. Today, the popularity of the Liberal Party is dwindling, and the opposition is catching on it that the Liberal Party is bringing in "poor and low class students" to Canada. If you are in Canada, go and be listening to CBC programs on Immigration. Or you join the online forum on Immigration where the white Canadians are prominent. Go and read what they say about the international students and their family members. The Minister of Immigration himself said that as a result of the housing crisis, Canada need to reduce the intake of international students and the temporary foreign workers. How do you expect them to reduce the intake of foreign workers if not by refusing applications

Olayinkayyyyy:
I believe one of the reasons for the SOWP is to ensure that families are united. The Spousal Open Work Permit from time has been the easiest Visa to get. Just get your proof of relationship well documented and your sufficient proof of funds handy and you're good to go.

I believe the reason for the incessant rejections that Nigerians seem to be experiencing lately has nothing to do with food banks or no food banks, the major issue is with the recent policies on proof of funds.

Most folks are finding it hard to really understand how to put their funds in place coupled with the exchange rate brouhaha. Imagine putting forward an application for a family of 3 with the sum of 10 million naira whilst thinking that you've put forward a strong application but, in the real sense of it, that is barely 9,000 CAD.

Pending when the policy on the ban of SOWP for college students gets implemented, food bank or no food banks, as much as you're able to get proof of funds in place, you will get your SOWP.

Chinook is being used to process applications. In order for the Chinook to aid in the mass decision making, some flag indicators are assigned to applicants from some countries. One of the flag indicators assigned to Nigeria currently is the early spousal sponsorship. The truth there is that they don't believe all those big bank statements we are presenting to them due to the activities for some Nigerians who were given study permits in the past. Many students were seen collecting food from the food bank. These are the people who told the IRCC that they have sufficient funds for feeding and living expenses with big bank statements. Their belief is that some of you don't have the money you claim that you have, hence the rush to bring your spouse into Canada so that he/she will be working to finance your studies. As it is now, submitting a SOWP while you student is in first semester is a red flag for Chinook to flag