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patches689:
Not on the scale and intensity of the Angolans.

Remeber - Angolans, since the 1960's have been:

- Insurgents
- Counter Insurgents
- Involved in the biggest and most advanced conventional battles on the continent.

Plus, even though the SADF annihilated them every-time they met on the battle-field the Angolans never gave up and allways came back for more- they have plenty of "guts". If they had inflicted just one defeat on us like we inflicted on them (over 20 times) we would have been forced out of the war by public pressure at home.

I don't think you know Ethiopia's history very well then.

The only way this debate can actually be ended is by a war itself and that is the last thing the continent needs.

patches689:
You forget that the Angolans fought from the 1960s until the 2000's

40 years of continuous combat experience - in everything from being the insurgents themselves to fighting conventionally.

And what about Ethiopia? You think they haven't been fighting?

Iblawi1:
What experience do the Ethiopians have that makes them special?

If you knew Ethiopia's history, you wouldn't even ask that question.

Iblawi1:
My friend you can not compare Eritrea with Angola.

If Ethiopia face Angola the battlefield would be different. Ethiopia don't even have the capacity to move 500 troops at once to a battle ground by air not to talk of supplies/logistics which means you can only fight your neighbors.

Ethiopia is only a treat to her neighbors.

Keep dreaming. Angola can spend $$$, their current armed soldiers are not as experienced as Ethiopia's. If the battlefield was in Ethiopia's terrain, they will lose.

chkil:
yes ethiopian army have a good experience to , no one says otherwise , i 'm talking only of the inventory, it is difficult to compare and judge the abstract things such as courage experience ect ... we can compare stats and see inventary and in terms of weapon , the capacity of the Moroccan army are higher , specially in air force capacity that you talk about

I agree with that .

jln115:
Dude almost all weapons purchases are recorded in today's age, the excuse of "does not publish military information" is pretty much nul and void with regards to number and type of equipment purchased.

Secondly Angola fought the longest, most advance war this continent has ever seen since ww2, so saying they have no experience is pretty fvcking ignorant.

The Eritrean war for independence was 4 years longer . I don't see Angola winning a war against Ethiopia. 10 years ago Angola wouldn't have been known for power so just because they bought some Sukhoi 30's it doesn't necessarily mean they are good.

chkil:
I do not agree with you, no comparison between the Moroccan and Saudi army , even their population and mentality is not the same , the Moroccan army has some experience facing the guerilla war against the army Western sahara in addition to quality training and even some participation in UN force in africa and around the world kosovo ect .... no comparison between the two , for me the Moroccan army is one of the most professional and strong in Africa

I could use the same description you used of the Moroccan army to describe the Ethiopian army. You cannot deny how much experience the Ethiopian army has, tonnes of it.

mazeltov:
i wonder why Ethopia should make the list. please who can explain to me Why Nigeria before South Africa?

Please tell me why it shouldn't make the list? Every western and southern African country needs to stop hating on Ethiopia.

chkil:
what ethiopian air force ? with only 17 downgraded sukhoi 27 bought in 1998, 2002 ,who know how many still in service now, and 10 oooooold MiG-23 ?? sorry look at the maroccan inventary , the marooccan air force is farrr ahead ! , the same for ground army , more than 1100 old t55 tank for the ethiopian ground army ,ok but their first main battle tank is the t72 only , in the other side marrocan army have more modern ! ethiopian ground army have a lot of obsolete equipment

the global fire ranking used also demographic , geographic, economic stats , that's why ethiopia have more point but if we take military stats only , the rank would change a lot

The story is, we do not know what the Ethiopian ground troops and air force own as they do not publish information about it.

jln115:
Thanks for confirming what ive been saying....you're concentrating on quantitative aspects.

Ethiopian tanks, which are cold war T72 and T55 relics will be cannon fodder for Moroccos's 150+ M1A1's and South Africa's 150+ Mk2/1B Olifant.

The Only thing worth mentioning in the Ethiopian Air Force are their 14 Su27 which in their on right are pretty much obsolete.Compare that to Morocco's 23 F16 block 52's + 20 odd F16 C/Ds, South Africa's 26 Gripen, Angola's 18 new Su30s.

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Until put to the test, there is nothing constructive that can actually be drawn from late equipment. I could list many wars the poorer side has one. Another thing to note is Ethiopia does not publish military information at all, so information about their vehicles and aircraft needs to be taken with a pinch of salt.

And what has Angola's Su30s got to do with this. The country has minimal experience in fighting and it's ground troops are probably nowhere near as good as Ethiopia's and Egypts.

jln115:
Looking at the rankings they also never take in to account, the modernity of the defence forces, Force Multiplier aspects like Data link systems ect, training, Force Projection capabilities, Sustainability......The List Go's on and on. They are purely focused on numerical aspects!! Like they do every year!!

Nigeria, South Africa, Morocco and even Angola are all more powerful than Ethiopia!! Also where the fvck is Kenya??Seriously how is the DRC ahead of Kenya?? Hell even Namibia and Zimbabwe are ahead of the DRC!!

Nigeria can't even keep Boko Haram away and don't even get me started on Kenya. Just because they are all richer it doesn't mean they are stronger. Ethiopia has tonnes of experience fighting and 10 times more tanks than Angola, South Africa and Morocco.

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-africa.asp

1)Egypt
2)Algeria
3)Ethiopia
4)Nigeria
5)South Africa
6)Angola
7)Morocco
8/)Sudan
9)Libya
10)Democratic Republic of the Congo

whitecloth:
I do not agree with this your list o

It's not mine, it's the sites list. Which part don't you agree with?

KingRex1:
Strongest in terms of wah...? Number, arsenal, intelligence?


So if we go to war with egypt, u mean we're dead Jst thinkin

Resources, finance, technology etc. -but it actually takes over 50 factors into account.

And if which country went to war with Egypt?

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-africa.asp

1)Egypt
2)Algeria
3)Ethiopia
4)Nigeria
5)South Africa
6)Angola
7)Morocco
8/)Sudan
9)Libya
10)Democratic Republic of the Congo

The Ethiopian army has located over 100 children abducted by South Sudanese militants in a cross border cattle raid that left more than 200 people dead, and many more injured, last Friday.

Just as Getachew Reda, Ethiopia’s Minister of Information, had initially declared, it appears the Ethiopian troops did cross into South Sudan in pursuit of the assailants and in search of the children, with the approval of South Sudanese government. “The army has been conducting reconnaissance missions in South Sudan and they have a clear idea of where the children are,” he told AFP.

Having located them, an encampment has been made around the areas of Jior and Kok and a government official has reportedly said the kidnapped children will be soon be rescued. Besides highlighting the urgent need to tackle the growing insecurity across Africa, the abduction of about 125 Ethiopian children is a reminder of the mass abduction that took place in Chibok, Nigeria two years ago, except in this case, things are looking up for the Ethiopians.

The past administration, under the auspices of former President Goodluck Jonathan, has been accused time and again of being the reason why the kidnapped Chibok girls are yet to be found or rescued. Unlike the swift response tactics deployed by the Ethiopian government and army, three weeks after Chibok’s abduction, neither the Nigerian government nor military, knew the whereabouts of the girls.

It took the Nigerian government more than two weeks after the kidnapping to respond by calling a meeting of government officials, and the principal of the school, to even discuss the incident. It took them another month to locate the whereabouts of the girls as claimed by a Chief of Defence staff, yet nothing significant was done. And an entire year went by before a rescue operation was carried out in Sambisa forest, one that did not involve the Chibok girls.

From that time up until now, the Nigerian government and military have treated Nigeria, and the world, to a variation of stories concerning the location of the girls, and whether or not they are still alive. Last week Thursday marked exactly two years since the abduction of the girls, yet their whereabouts and status remain a mystery, and people are beginning to question whether they should be forgotten or not. Whatever the case, the late response of the government and the Nigerian army seemingly contributed to why these girls are yet to be found as stories emerging from Ethiopia has shown that in such situations, a quick response team and apprehension is key.
http://venturesafrica.com/100-abducted-children-located-what-nigeria-needs-to-learn-from-ethiopia/

ediama:
You said it! Yet u still ask!

To show her beauty and what others think

I am simply in love with this lady (singer), is she not beautiful!? The smile especially

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-2KnVSOh5w

OneNaira6:
Oromo, Amharic, Yoruba and Igbo shouldn't even be on the list.

How did they make it in the list and Fulani and Lingala did not?

That's laughable, maybe you should read a bit more.

Lingala has less than 15M speakers and Fulani has around 25M, more 30M now. Still less than Oromo, Yoruba and Amharic.

Fulaman198:
Yah that's also true, the list was bullcrap. Whoever made it did not conduct proper research.

I can't say much about the list, but Oromo and Amharic are definitely in the top 10. But there are more Oromo speakers than Amharic. I can make a detailed Top 10 and calculate all of it and publish it here, but it's very hard to do that especially with some languages, as the "first language/second language" figures should be taken with a pinch of salt.

All I can say is I don't know how Zulu ended up there.

I'm Ethiopian btw

Approximately:
34,000,000 Oromo speakers
30,000,000 Amharic speakers (not including second language speakers)

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What do you think guys?