Olu317:
Enjoy yourself online with the lies that many before you had spread about Ooni. You are the one that need to seek such true knowledge.Do you know how many lies that had been told ? What you think you know is not known to you and what you know is not known to you is extremely small.And until you take the right path to seek true knowledge from the right source. Whatever is sold to you today differ from the true means of how Ooni emerged in the past. You claimed you were born in Ile ife and from three compound . That is a great thing to known .Well, I am descendant of Lafogido . The descendant of Luusi/ Olusi and the great grandson of Ajamaiye/ Ajalaiye. Go and ask your elders who these men were. How do you relate with that ?

No shakes.

Olu317:
OMG! Was Lafogido spiritually sound after he became Ooni? If your assertion is correct ,how did Oranmiyan became Ooni? How did Lajamisan cornered the kingship only to his descendants? Do you know the story of Ooni Ogbooru?Did Derin Olongbenla became spiritually strong after he became Ooni? Naturally, not Ooni descendant can become Ooni,do you not know why?. Tell your informant that you saw someone that informed you that each ooni to be must have a spiritual gift. And one's he become the Ooni,he transform to a replica deity of his ancestor known as Odua/Adimunia/Adimula . And the method of chosen was divne . Am sure you know the last part as it conern divine.



Lastly ,I wont go further than this. OMG! Was Lafogido spiritually sound after he became Ooni? If your assertion is correct ,how did Oranmiyan became Ooni? How did Lajamisan cornered the kingship only to his descendants? Do you know the story of Ooni Ogbooru?Did Derin Olongbenla became spiritually strong after he became Ooni? Naturally, not Ooni descendant can become Ooni,do you not know why?. Tell your informant that you saw someone that informed you that each ooni to be must have a spiritual gift. And one's he become the Ooni,he transform to a replica deity of his ancestor known as Odua/Adimunia/Adimula . And the method of chosen was divne . Am sure you know the last part as it concern divine.



Lastly ,I wont go further than this.

LOL, I thought you came up with this yourself but it is starting to look like someone gave you this narratives because these conjectures are way below your intelligence. I hate to be the beater of bad news but whomever told you these thing sold you a dummy


I should not speak on Ooniship in public.

It is interesting that you think you know the facts about my hometown better than I. A place where I was born and raised from 3 families in the centre of the socio-political and socio-cultural history and system in Ife.

macof:

That applies in every Yoruba kingdom to every Oba

Well, one can argue there is little to nothing "vastly spiritual" anymore...coronations are even rushed now

The is right though but I hope you meant in the context of the 8 original kingdoms.

Olu317:
You are sharing this from the position of an insider? Ok dear, I can see your position. If Ogboni hold sway over the King , then there is no reason to engage you but I will do it slightly . One of the greatest mistake on NL is the assumption and wrong information being dispense . Quickly ,let me emphasis here that Oyo was the only place in the ancient time that Ogboni could really frustrate the king . In ILE IFE, to be an oooni in the ancient time,you must be vast spiritually. I am sure ,you know what Ayajo, Ogèdè and Ofo .Again, Osanyi's knowledge comes to my mind,which is attached to knowing herbs while seeing vision is also a great gift that Ooni did had. Likewise some ancient Obas. The places you mentioned had slight differences as it regard powers bestowed upon Ogboni within her domain. Being an Ogboni had and still has no connection to one's spiritual prowess. It is what you come with ,that gives you an edge over other members. I DIDNT MENTION OSUGBO . I AM SURE YOU KNOW OTHER GROUPS TOO.

If it is the same Ile-Ife that I am from, then as a son of 3 major compounds in Ife I can authoritatively tell you the emboldened is wrong.

An Ooni only become vastly spiritual AFTER becoming an Ooni and you derive this spirituality from Ogboni Obatala, Are, Ogboni Iledi Ooni and each temple of the 201 deities in Ile-Ife.

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@Olu317

Spam bot nor let me rest, its noose is tight around my posts. I had to break everything into bits before finally giving up.

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macof:


I think we are saying the same thing; lemme try to rephrase if i understand you correctly...Ugbo used to be part of/or the general name for Obawinrin's land but Obatala supporters moved futher to Igbo-Ugbo(modern Mokuro area) where they were led by Obamakin who later stepped down for Obatala? [/b]Is that it? Cus that is my thought

As to Ilaje, the fact that Ugbo kept raiding Ile-ife long after the death of Oduduwa from their base in the forest, shows that Obamakin didn't lead them to modern Ondo state (either Ogun or Oranmiyan was Ooni at this time). [b]His status as the king before he stepped down for Obatala is probably what makes him recognized as the first Olugbo

1. Mokuro is Iranje oko, it was the extension of farm land which the family still use as extensive farm and lands for whomever wants o build a house there. Obatala moved there when Obameri frustrated him out of his palace at Iranje Ile. He was here when Obawinrin [Maybe Obamakin] sent for him to come and lead the Ugbo. Igbo Ugbo is another place entirely different from Mokuro.

2. Yes sir.