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Christianity Etc › Re: Things That A Christian Shouldn't Buy Or Sell by lastmessenger: 2:58pm On Nov 10, 2014

fhunn:
Gold has been cursed since that day the Israelites used it to make that golden calf.

Anything that takes God's place is cursed whether you like it or not!!!

As for heaven's streets being made with gold, that is to show you how wort/useless gold is, for it to be used to make the paths/roads which people tread upon, that is to show you how useless it is in heaven!!!

So when you hear the streets of heaven is made of gold, just know that its because its worthless that's why its used to make the streets, come to think of it, you don't use something that has worth to make streets!!!

This doe not make sense. Streets are built with expensive materials.any street that is built with cheap and fake things will not look fine.
Please correct yourself.

Christianity Etc › Re: Things That A Christian Shouldn't Buy Or Sell by lastmessenger: 2:50pm On Nov 10, 2014

fpeter:
So, recently my neighbour repented and joined Deeper Life, I visited him one day and met him flushing his gold necklace
I begged him to give me o but he refused and i swore i would dig it outta the toilet but dude stood in my way till he flushed
The gold chain down the drain. I was really sad, I could have gotten a few thousand from the abokis in Wuse market.
Doctrines and Religion......That is not what Jesus Died for!

The same way they said that TV is the devils box and later changed and started hosting their programs on TV is the same way they will realize their foolishness in the near future.this guys think that God is a sadist.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Dr Myles Munroe And His Wife Dead In Plane Crash by lastmessenger: 7:41am On Nov 10, 2014

Topgainer:
He was the wisest of the Prosperity/inspirational talking Pastors. Wiser than Papa Oyedepo.
If inspirational talking, ways of making money and seed sowing is actually a ministry instituted by Jesus then he is sure a resounding success in that with practical proofs. Private jets, multimillion dollar estates and a worldwide following

I can't call him a prosperity preacher. He talks more on the kingdom of God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Dr. Myles Munroe And Wife Died In A Jet Crash by lastmessenger: 7:35am On Nov 10, 2014

I pray this is not true.

Christianity Etc › Re: Things That A Christian Shouldn't Buy Or Sell by lastmessenger: 2:50pm On Nov 09, 2014

eripecs:
May it not be too late for you to realise the truth. The intelligence and wisdom of man are different from the way of God.

He has predestined us in Christ to be conformed to the very image of his son. God is not what you think he is. Without no doubt am convinced that you are yet to understand who God is.

Christianity Etc › Re: Things That A Christian Shouldn't Buy Or Sell by lastmessenger: 2:43pm On Nov 09, 2014

McSpark:
Woe to those that reject good news...

Woe to those who remain ignorant and have refused to gain knowledge.
You guys just want the whole world to think that God is one kind angry fella who is just waiting for the time to deal with the so called bad.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Say There Is No Hell by lastmessenger(op): 8:49pm On Nov 04, 2014

voltron:
Bummer! Guess who forgot to mail the memo

Voltron

Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Say There Is No Hell by lastmessenger(op): 7:50pm On Nov 04, 2014

voltron:
The jews.. the Children of Israel indeed God's favorites have no Hell to go to nor Heaven. so why do the Christians suddenly have one following Rome's historic fall

Is simple. The Jews don't know that there is hell.

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Christianity Etc › Let's Say There Is No Hell by lastmessenger(op): 6:28pm On Nov 04, 2014

Many Christians especially the average and carnal ones are kept in shape in their Christian life for a few days when they hear about the eternal damnation that awaits the offenders. This message my come from the so called visitors of hell( I mean the likes of Linda and the host of others) or from a preachers sermon. Here Christians who have not been living the right kind life straighten up Atleast for a few days.Infact some guys have simply gave Their life to Christ simply because they heard about hell fire and eternal damnation.
So this made begin to ask if some guys will really love or become Christian in the absence of hell fire and everlasting punishment.
The simple question that I want to ask is; will you still serve God if there is no hell?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did You Choose To Be An Athiest? by lastmessenger(op): 8:04pm On Nov 03, 2014

Infomizer:
And where did God come out from? Or is it turtles all the way down?

I have already told you that asking where God came from is Like my pet dog asking how I came to be. No matter how the dog tries he will never fathom that out.
God and human don't relate at the same level same way humans and dogs.

Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Someone Should Send Me The Sure-p Survey Form. by lastmessenger(op): 9:14pm On Nov 02, 2014

UnknownT:
Hope the link worked?

Yes

Christianity Etc › Re: The Orgin Of The Name "Papa, Daddy, Mummy" For Pastors by lastmessenger: 11:46am On Nov 02, 2014

The papa and daddy thing started from redeem and from there it has spread to our university fellowship.Student calling another student daddy and mummy.
I have never called that rubbish to anybody. Sometimes I call my pastor sir.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did You Choose To Be An Athiest? by lastmessenger(op): 11:41am On Nov 02, 2014

Kay17:
But you tried to use a law of motion to prove God's existence earlier, now God is beyond science? Let me agree with you that we cannot prove God's existence through the Universe and that the Bible is the sole proof of God's existence, right?

And what about the second issue: why is there existence at all? I was encouraged when you said spiritual thinkers are profound and deep. So let's discuss.

The only answer I can give you is the last verse of the chapter 4 of Revelation.
9The four living creatures sing songs of glory and honour and thanks to the one who sits on the throne, who lives for ever and ever. When they do so, 10the twenty-four elders fall down before the one who sits on the throne, and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They throw their crowns down in front of the throne and say:
11“Our Lord and God! You are worthy
to receive glory, honour, and power.
For you created all things,
and by your will they were given existence and life.”

Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Someone Should Send Me The Sure-p Survey Form. by lastmessenger(op): 11:24am On Nov 02, 2014

VocalWalls:
You still have to fill in a unique registration code which was sent to your mail.

Check your other mail boxes.

Thank you i have filled that

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by lastmessenger: 11:22am On Nov 02, 2014

Peter262:
do u think dat any person that answers pastor is a pastor? Do u think that anybody that owns a Church is a servant of God? Till the day u know the differeCe btw God anD man, for nw I rest my case

I don't know where you are driving at. Nobody is saying that pastor should suffer but we are saying that putting compulsory levy on church members is not Christianity.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by lastmessenger: 10:41am On Nov 02, 2014

Jayne2014:
What do you think?

www.askelm.com/tithing/thi003.htm

j
Another eye opener.thanks a lot .

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did You Choose To Be An Athiest? by lastmessenger(op): 10:27am On Nov 02, 2014

Kay17:
Can you say with the same solid conviction that God is the immediate cause of the Universe, and what is the evidence thereof.

Secondly, why is there existence at all, why not emptiness?!

God is beyond science and therefore cannot subjected to scientific proof. The only evidence to show that God created us is his written word. Science only tries to show the mechanism if that creation.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by lastmessenger: 9:54am On Nov 02, 2014

Peter262:
Any person that says tithing is unchristian is an advocate of the devil. Pastors are not 9 to 5 workers, they got bills to pay, from wia do u expect them to get money? God is watching

And they have investment to do and jets and customized cars to ride while their church members still live in poverty

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did You Choose To Be An Athiest? by lastmessenger(op): 7:52am On Nov 02, 2014

Infomizer:
Bro, somehow, EVERYONE believes that something came out of nothing. EVERYONE!

christians does not hold such belief. We believe that everything come out of God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did You Choose To Be An Athiest? by lastmessenger(op): 7:00am On Nov 02, 2014

Kay17:
Don't be ignorant. The biggest and most fundamental question that bothers all humans, is "why Something exists rather than Nothing" and the question is not answered by saying God created the Universe. So you don't know how/why we are here, because it is the most enduring question. Most we freethinkers are not as shallow as you "people" and hesitate to make hasty conclusions.

Free thinkers? We who have faith in God are deep and spiritual thinkers.the first law of motion states that a bony that is moving will continue to move unless an external force acts on it.My science background makes me think the Big Bang may be right but my faith tells me that the force of God is the driver of Big Bang.

Christianity Etc › Re: Church Activities Will Deprive You Your Time For God. by lastmessenger: 10:58pm On Nov 01, 2014

You mean church activities is like distractions?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did You Choose To Be An Athiest? by lastmessenger(op): 10:55pm On Nov 01, 2014

Weah96:
We don't understand a lot of things about religion, not just that.

Why does this God choose to remain invisible and inaudible?

Why dictate a book to a handful of bronze age men, when he could just as easily speak to everyone, even today?
You see lies and we see truth. Two different views.

Why is the book full of lies, about everything?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did You Choose To Be An Athiest? by lastmessenger(op): 10:53pm On Nov 01, 2014

Kay17:
There is no common agreement between us that God created the Universe, that's why we are arguing here; so we don't know God is the creator.

My view, is you have a primitive mind which is unable to imagine a naturalistic universe. You are like our ancestors who couldn't shake off the conviction that everything was anthropomorphic

I think the person who is more primitive is that guy who believes he is smart but hold the belief that he just came to existence as a result of chance.You believe that nothing brought about something and that is how you came to exist( what a silly thought)

Christianity Etc › Re: Vine Said Homosexuality Is Not A Sin by lastmessenger: 6:02pm On Nov 01, 2014

Yooguyz:
Am not gay, but am a man of orientation. A gay man is someone who practises homosexuality. A man of Orientation is one who is attracted to the samesex but refuses to act on it because of his Bible trained conscience.

You admire men.guy you fall my hand o

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did You Choose To Be An Athiest? by lastmessenger(op): 4:34pm On Nov 01, 2014

Beretta92:
Why do you think "someone" has to create the world for the world to exist? If god created the world, then who created god?

Yes we know that God is the creator of the world but how God came to be is the knowledge that is beyond human understanding.
Humans asking how God came to be is just like my pet dog asking how I came into the world.No matter how the Dog tries to find out that knowledge will remain illusive to the dog because dogs and human do not relate at the same level.

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Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Someone Should Send Me The Sure-p Survey Form. by lastmessenger(op): 4:06pm On Nov 01, 2014

UnknownT:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1IsXwncOEv_mdJoinYo-09mskg_Nsec53n3sRLzIo81s/viewform?c=0&w=1&usp=mail_form_link

Thank you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Millionaire Pastors and their Poor Members by lastmessenger: 3:47pm On Nov 01, 2014

Image123:
Giving brings blessings, whatever motive. Giving to be blessed is one motive, everyone don't have the same motive.

Yea it does but not in the way they threaten people.secondly when you give you can never tell what you will reap. You will end up loosing out when you give with the wrong motive.
The most important thing is why are you giving? To get more money or because of your love for God.

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Christianity Etc › Let Us Forget This Money Gospel. by lastmessenger(op): 10:22am On Nov 01, 2014

Sometime ago, I was looking for something desperately and my mum trYing to help out met a woman who is into ministry and the woman told her that I have to promise God money if God is to grant my request.
I can recount countless times where I was told to give something if I am to get what I am looking for. In fact I have heard pastor chris in one of those financial convention that if you are struggling with one sin or the other. That the planting of a money seed could be the answer to your getting free from such sin.
Bishop Oyedepo once said that if you don't pay your tithe that things will tight for you.some have been threatened with hell fire. Some where told that they will be poor if they don't sow their money into the church.
This make me begin to wonder how we got to this point.the thing which Jesus called the additions have in a way been made the central theme in today's Pentecostal church leaving behind the real message which is about the kingdom of God.
Today people answer the alter call to prosperity and not salvation. After they have been told how God will bless them.then in tail tail end of the message they will be told that to enjoy all these things that they need to accept Jesus into their lives. then you will see them troop to the front of the alter walking in style and when they stay for two months and it seems what brought them to Christ has not come, they become discouraged and go back to sin.
What is it that I am saying? My simple point is that it time to go back to the main message of Christianity which is about the kingdom of God.jesus said that we should seek the kingdom of God and his righteousness and that all these things( the blessings) shall be added unto us.
Jesus asked us to pray " thy kingdom come and let thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven" and Paul told us that the kingdom of God is not meat and drink( the things we like to emphasize)but that it is righteousness,peace and joy in the Holy Ghost.it is time to abandon this money gospel and preach about Gods kingdom.
Another thing that is missing in today's church is the message of love for God and our fellow humans.yes we were told that now abide hope, faith and love but that the greatest of them is love.Jesus said that it is only when we love one another that the whole world will know that we are the children of God. But what do we have today. It is actually the opposite.if the message of love is emphasized then it will be very difficult for us to see ministers of God going to court to divorce. Believe me Pastor Anita and Chris will find a place to forgive each other if really the message of love is taken serious in today's church.

Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Someone Should Send Me The Sure-p Survey Form. by lastmessenger(op): 8:33am On Nov 01, 2014

alabiyemmy:
have u looked on their website

No I have not. Do you think I may find it there?

Jobs/Vacancies › Someone Should Send Me The Sure-p Survey Form. by lastmessenger(op): 8:08am On Nov 01, 2014*

I got an SMS yesterday from sure-p and here is the content
Dear graduate, you have been sent an online survey form by email. Please check your inbox or spam for details. Deadline for submission is 3rd November 2014.
The thing is that I have checked my inbox and spam and there I did not find the survey form.I don't know how important this is but I believe some people may have filled the survey form and still have it in his or her email.

Please may the fellow kindly send the form to my email.thanks a lot for helping out a guy.
ojihnijioma@gmail.com

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did You Choose To Be An Athiest? by lastmessenger(op): 7:58am On Nov 01, 2014*

qstar:
Do you believe that God(Yahweh) fought for the Israelites, the same way God(Allah) is fighting for Boko Haram?

I don't believe that God is fighting for bokoharam. God in the past fought for the people of Israel because every other nation then were his enemy. So he fought for the people Israel but now through Christ God has made peace and reconciled the whole to himself. He is no longer fighting against people rather he is going out to save people.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Non-christains Will Be Saved. by lastmessenger(op): 7:51am On Nov 01, 2014

igbinigiejeff:
You have said it all! I believe you

Thanks a lot .

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