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petesunday:
Let me tell you, nobody can say for certain, what happened almost 2k years ago. The diaspora Jews likely have genetic links to ancient hebrews but have become mixed by intermarraige with Europeans, something that did not happen to Middle eastern jews.

petesunday:
The same right jews have is the same right palestinian Arabs have but why did they have to cede some of the land already occupied by indigenous palestinian Arabs to migrating European Jews who own another citizenship. If the you were palestinian and your fathers village falls in the area they allocated to the migraying jews would you be happy?

petesunday:
Netanyahu's father is Polish.

When over 2,000 years have passed, you are definitely going to have a blend. Do you know how long 2,000 years is? Even the Yoruba ethnic group in Nigeria, it will shock you that some of them were assimilated. For instance, the Ijebus were not even Yorubas 300 years ago but we're assimilated by the Yoruba culture and language, under the Oyo empire.

Look at Egypt and all the multiple eras of dynasties with diverse races beginning from Black, to Semitic, Greek and finally, Arabic. Imagine the amount of mixing that would have occurred along the line. That is why ethnicity is more about cultural identity than genetic linkage.


My best guess is that, the Palestinians as assimilated Arabs. This does not give them less right to the land than some European impostors.

petesunday:
Netanyahu's father is Polish.

When over 2,000 years have passed, you are definitely going to have a blend. Do you know how long 2,000 years is? Even the Yoruba ethnic group in Nigeria, it will shock you that some of them were assimilated. For instance, the Ijebus were not even Yorubas 300 years ago but we're assimilated by the Yoruba culture and language, under the Oyo empire.

Look at Egypt and all the multiple eras of dynasties with diverse races beginning from Black, to Semitic, Greek and finally, Arabic. Imagine the amount of mixing that would have occurred along the line. That is why ethnicity is more about cultural identity than genetic linkage.


My best guess is that, the Palestinians as assimilated Arabs. This does not give them less right to the land than some European impostors.

petesunday:
Bro, you don't get it. There are studies linking the DNA of current Palestinians with ancient Hebrews.

Remember, after the rise of Islam around 6th century AD, the Arabic influences spread and most of the middle east just became dominated by them. The Palestinians may have converted to Islam en masse and remain so till this day. This means they genetically have full rights to that land.

Meanwhile, even Biblically, Abraham was from Ur of the Chaldeans and not indigenous to Canaan. His descendants had to kill off many of the inhabitants to take the land and that's also what the modern day Jews are doing.

If everyone whose ancestors lived on a land 2,000 years ago come back to reclaim it, everybody will be dispossessed. Even US and Australia that recently dispossessed their aboriginal population, they are not safe because the red Indians should also have the right to revolt and be helped by Russia to take America back.

Please all that land of our forefathers nonsense is hogwash and propaganda and can only make meaning through a religious prism. Yet in the modern world we are living in, it is being allowed. It is pathetic.

The Ashkenazi migrating from Europe could have bought land and lived peacefully in a Palestine jointly owned by both Arabs and Jews but they opted foe Zionism due to their greed. A lie can endure for centuries but not forever.

petesunday:
Yes the Jews and Arabs were at peace for thousands of years until the Ashkenazi arrived from Europe with their nonsense zionism.

In a 2019 study, in a sample meant to be representative of the Israeli Jewish population, about 44.9% percent of Israel's Jewish population were categorized as Mizrahi (defined as having grandparents born in North Africa or Asia), 31.8% were categorized as Ashkenazi (defined as having grandparents born in Europe, the Americas, Oceania and South Africa), 12.4% as "Soviet" (defined as having progenitors who came from the ex-USSR in 1989 or later), about 3% as Beta Israel (Ethiopia) and 7.9% as a mix of these, or other Jewish groups.

Obviously, Mizrahi Jews who are more connected to the land. Nevertheless, the Ashkenazi like that Polish boy, Netanyahu, are the dominant force in Israel. This is because most of the efforts to create Israel were from the Ashkenazi and not the local Jews like Mizrahi.

Now to answer your last question, there are already many research works questioning the links between the European Jews and the ancient Hebrews. Even if they are linked they have been tainted by European blood and the Palestinians who are actually Hebrew descendants converted to Islam by the Arabs have more genetic rights than these European impostors.

petesunday:
Yes the Jews and Arabs were at peace for thousands of years until the Ashkenazi arrived from Europe with their nonsense zionism.

In a 2019 study, in a sample meant to be representative of the Israeli Jewish population, about 44.9% percent of Israel's Jewish population were categorized as Mizrahi (defined as having grandparents born in North Africa or Asia), 31.8% were categorized as Ashkenazi (defined as having grandparents born in Europe, the Americas, Oceania and South Africa), 12.4% as "Soviet" (defined as having progenitors who came from the ex-USSR in 1989 or later), about 3% as Beta Israel (Ethiopia) and 7.9% as a mix of these, or other Jewish groups.

Obviously, Mizrahi Jews who are more connected to the land. Nevertheless, the Ashkenazi like that Polish boy, Netanyahu, are the dominant force in Israel. This is because most of the efforts to create Israel were from the Ashkenazi and not the local Jews like Mizrahi.

Now to answer your last question, there are already many research works questioning the links between the European Jews and the ancient Hebrews. Even if they are linked they have been tainted by European blood and the Palestinians who are actually Hebrew descendants converted to Islam by the Arabs have more genetic rights than these European impostors.

petesunday:
Were Jews the dominant ethnic group in Palestine?
We're they being persecuted by the Arabs or the governing British?

Why the sudden need to populate another person's land by sophisticated immigrants who are not natural to the land?

I am talking about the natural ethnic composition of the land and not the governing authority.


Britain could have even named the land Israel and still allowed both Jews and Arabs to live in peace. Why did they decide to take out all the Arabs from one side and replace them with Jews? It doesn't make sense and it's a gross injustice.

In the case of Crimea, did the Russians expell other ethnic groups when they annexed Crimea? Expulsion had been done a century ago by the evil communists who gave Crimea away to Ukraine. It is not a policy of modern Russia.

There was a referendum in which all citizens of Crimea participated.

Now answer this?
When the British wanted to partition Palestine, did they conduct a referendum in which all inhabitants both Arabs and Jews participated?

I guess you know the answer already.

petesunday:
Now i think we are on the same page. Why didn't the Britain create one single country where Jews and Arabs have equal rights? Why did they carve up an existing country they are governing and give one half to a sophisticated people they have offended from Europe and leave the other half to those who had been subjugated for so long? The Jews had all the backings of their relatives and fri3nds lobbying for maximum support in all European and American countries and they have always been the most prosperous people around the world. The Arabs stood no chance when all the western countries that colonised the middle east are in support of the European Jews migrating en masse.


Even today, the Jews from Europe (Ashkenazi) stand at the pinnacle of Israeli society whilst even the middle east jews they met are relegated.

petesunday:
Meanwhile, Crimea already belonged to Russians as an ethnicity before the annexation since it was already a majority Russian province but under the Ukrainian government much like you can have Yorubas in both Nigeria and Benin Republic.
In 2014 when the Ukrainians became pro-west, the Crimeans and the eastern Donbass people revolted and called for seccesion to join Russia but the Nazi Ulrainian junta started cracking down on them using extremist nationalist groups like Azov

You need to read up the Odessa massacre to understand the extent of atrocities commited but western media twisted the narratives reducing emphasis on Ukrainian excesses and exaggerating Russian ones.

petesunday:
The fact that a country is not independent does not remove its existence. Yes, Nigeria was created in 1914 but got independence in 1960. It was already a country, independentor not, so I don't know what you are driving at.

erniok:
Though I agree with this line of arguement, fact is you can argue israeli matter all day, all year and nothing will change what is on ground.

When everyone gets tired of whining, they can enlist to serve whichever side suits them. I know a poster here that has contact for those who wish to fight on russian side and yet, no poster here, as far as I'm aware, has joined the Russian armed forces to fight against Ukraine. Same goes for israeli and Hezbollah parties.

Just adopt the position to read mostly

FoolishBoy419:
Were they living in Mars before?

shoodboi2:
They all have second passports and citizenship, don't they? They should return to their respective countries, starting with that Polish boy, Benjamin Mileikowsky, who changed his surname to Nethanyahu after leaving his God-given home in Poland to steal land in Palestine.

petesunday:
Golda Meir had a Palestinian passport. Yes or no?
Does a non existing nation issue passport?

Mille:
I'm tired of seeing you and your stupid takes.

Please for the love of God, just shut up and let's have sanity here.

petesunday:
They can go back to the countries they all came from. The ones that want to stay can be citizens of Palestine. Most Israelis have 3 or more citizenship.

WritterNg:
What do you expect from an illegal nation that shouldn't even be existing.

Vic2023:
abeg!!!!!

Vic2023:
you dey crazy* na 5%

can you come gain? More than 60 what?
Again you dey cra*zy
Una just dey argue blindly , the other guy don floor you several times, instead to cover your face in shame, you resulted to another false claims

Lionessza6:
No I'm an Igbo

petesunday:
Do you even read out what you type to yourself? Do you understand how silly and incoherent your arguments are?

Bakhmut is a city, one of over 100 in Ukraine. Gaza is a whole autonomous territory with its own government at it's surrounded by Israel. Where do you want the people of Gaza to go? Most of the people of Bakhmut had been evacuated to other safe places in Ukraine before Russia even comes close except those who don't want to. But have you heard of Gaza refugees in israel? Even Ukraine that Russia is fighting, there are millions of their citzens seeking refuge in Russia.

petesunday:
I am not sure I have the patience to constantly respond to you. Their are tons of western media reports on the extensive destruction of Gaza and how it is being deliberately rendered unlivable by Israeli forces.

petesunday:
Do you think this statement makes you look less pathetic? Your argument does not hold water because it is technically not possie to bomb an entire land to every square inch. We are saying all parts of Gaza has been bombed and even people are being bombarded in areas where Israel told them to go. You now used an example of a crowded beach as a place that has not been bombed. Does a beach qualify as a whole town or province? Can it take 1 million people. At this point, I think it's hopeless arguing with you. I thought you were intelligent.

petesunday:
This statement; 'IDF WERE IN SOUTHERN GAZA WERE PALESTINIANS ASK TO MOVE TO RAFAH OR NOT'

Did you know Rafah is part of Southern Gaza?

petesunday:
You continue to show how ridiculous your assertions are. I don't see any meaningful point you have made in this post. The photo is simply an illustration of a typical gaza beach right now. You said one of the safe places provided by Israel is the coast of Gaza and I posted the image to show you the coast of Gaza is extremely overcrowded due to the war. In fact only tiny spaces along the coast have not been bombed. Can Gaza's over 2 million population be in these places?

Meanwhile, here is a western media platform confirming that Israel bombs the so-called 'safe zones'.

Please respond with a more sensible defense of your point this time. At least be coherent.

petesunday:
FYI: see attached. According to your findings on the image I posted, Israel told Palestinians they can return to Northern Gaza. How can Israel tell people to return to somewhere that they have rendered unlivable?

I have provided my proof of Israel attacking a 'safe zone' contrary to your argument that Israel always tells people to move away from danger.

The arguments isn't if Israel is making Gaza unlivable it is if Israel is intentionally targeting safe zones. You haven't provide evidence for that.


It is a known fact that Israel has dropped fliers sent text messages to gazans warning them to move from war zone.

Answer this question when the IDF WERE IN SOUTHERN GAZA WERE PALESTINIANS ASK TO MOVE TO RAFAH OR NOT.

petesunday:
The only safe zones in Gaza are places like this in the attached.

FYI: that is the coast of Gaza that you are talking about. I am sure somethingis wrong with your humanity.

petesunday:
Israel warns people to leave an area and then goes to bomb the area they said people should go. Also, the statements coming from Israeli leaders expose their intent to exterminate Palestinians, referringto them as Amalekites. Compare that with the statements of Putin.

petesunday:
Russia has shown so much restraint in avoiding civilian infrastructure even when Urainian soldiers are using them. Can you compare civiliandeaths in Ukraine and Gaza?

emmaodet:
@ the last statement.
It is always no impact on isreali base.
Only God knows how many lies we have swallowed from them in the past