₦airaland Forum

chulla12: My point flew over your head (or you're playing ostrich), but that's okay.

Carry on.

I am looking to see where I miss your point but I cant find where.
Actually I think its a good post, but I think it was necessary to make that comment about the "racial" part.

ArtanK: The Oromo themselves claim they were originally from Madagascar and they migrated to Ethiopia and Kenya gradually. The name Oromo was first used by historians a couple of centuries ago despite the Oromo being older than the Somalis, they were called Galla or Gaallo/Gaalmadow (btw we gave them that name) while famous historians wrote about Somalis as far back as the 11th century.

Their genetics put them right in east Africa, going by their genetics unless they migrated to Madagascar
and back to east Africa. The Somalis genetics also put them in east Africa for thousands of years.
The Oromo and Somalis are predominantly E1B1B with a lot of other similarities, such as language, preIslamic
name for "God", looks and so on.

axum: all the somalis on here already believe what i do, none on here have said they are Black, when asked what they consider themselves.

Mind your own business, you don't need to know what my handle is.

That's only what you hope was the case.
Its actually scared you are scared to tell me what it is.
The same way you are scared to tell me that "you are not dark skin"

axum: What separates Negroids from Somalis, is We don't care what white people call us. But whites owned you so its only natural you care what the people who owned your forefathers think of you

Almost every word you used to try and insult other Africans is the "white" man word.
While using the same "white" man word and concepts to claim "superiority", so how come
all of a sudden you don't care what "white" people call "you"? you are a comic.
"Whites" never own me and they never own my forefathers, but if you are a Somali they clearly
own your mind, way more than anyone whom forefathers you claim they own.

KenyanLady: 1- Kinky nappy hair.

2-Big wide flat nose.

3-Round head.

4-Dark skin.

5- Bigger lips.


this man is an example of negro.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/JEFF_COOPWOOD.jpg/220px-JEFF_COOPWOOD.jpg


Or this man.
https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/WK-BA429_Arena__DV_20111229163119.jpg

All those features are arbitrary and cut across all African groups, they do not
suggest a different species of human. If you notice the first guy you post many
Somalis have thicker lips than him, that's one example, and the second one face
is long not round another example..not to mention dark skin.

KenyanLady: You can't be serious, are you a woman or a man?

We African women have two problems that Somalis women do not have.

1-hair

2-facial bone structure

And that's why more and more wealthy African women and African American celebrities women are getting plastic surgery to look more like Somalis women or Caucasoid.


@cryptography.

Okie Dokie, I am sorry, I didn't mean to hurt your or anyone's feelings

Anyway, Somali women are the ugliest women in Africa if it makes you feel any better.



@Hbuyosh.

Okay whatever!

Envy is a terrible disease.

So African women hair and facial bone structure is a problem? You feeble minded idiiot.
Are you sure "wealthy African women and African American celebrities women are getting plastic surgery
to changed their facial bone structure"? where do you get that from?
For your info: "white" celebrities are getting lip surgery to have thick lips.

The caucasian, negroid hypothesis is long debunked and discredited by most scientists
We know the Tutsis, Chilluk, Dinkas and many other Africans aint caucasian, but yet
many of them have those same facial bone structures you mention and called caucasian.
Your ideas about beauty, species, your alinement with that axum character, your caucasian, negroid hypothesis
is all part and parcel and continuum of your reeetardity and mental enslavement.

KenyanLady: Axum.




You took the words right out of my mouth, Somalis and Nigerians negroes are totally two different species of humans.

You sound like you suffer from a very serious case of mental enslavement

KenyanLady: Axum.




You took the words right out of my mouth, Somalis and Nigerians negroes are totally two different species of humans.

What define a person as "negro"?

axum: Are Somali people African? Anyone in Africa is African. African doesnt mean Black. Africa was named after a Roman General. Were you African before it was named after that General or After.

You need to relook at yourself.

You learn your masters lines well..why isn't there Somalis here supporting you, let alone Ethiopians?
Which again put your claim to be Somali in question. What is your handle on Somalinet?

axum: Somalis who go to SouthAfrica are business people making money. Somalis go the northern state of kenya which is a Somali state.

All Somalis want the HIV infect Ebola carrying Negroids to leave Somalia.

Bantus have always been slaves in Somalia/Ethiopia. All the Negroids in East Africa forefathes at one time worked in a Ethiopian/Somali farm as slaves. So watch your mouth Niggggger

If racists whites whom word you just use to insult Africans called Iranians and Egyptian former president
such as Mubarak "sand nigger", what do you think they called Somalis? I will tell you: not even "sand nigger" but straight
"nigger"

axum: ... because your kind have accomplished nothing historically and look like Gorillas, so you must try to attach yourself to us, in order to uplift this 800 pound Bantu gorilla...

Another sentence that put your claim to be Somali in question

axum: South Park is a cartoon, Their are Indians darker than Somalis/Ethiopians.

You are a desperate afrocentric, who doest believe in the science of linguistics, genetics, culture, nor history all of which point to the Horn having no relations with Bantus. Even when Bantus were freed as slaves, they were untouchable. Somalis/Ethios do not refers to themselves as Black and use the word Black as derogatory and in third person All that evidence Versus your afrocentrism because your kind have accomplished nothing historically and look like Gorillas, so you must try to attach yourself to us, in order to uplift this 800 pound Bantu gorilla

Do you ever used the word "eurocentric"? I don't think so.
"Somalis/Ethios do not refers to themselves as Black and use the word Black as derogatory and in third person"
You are a liar. There is a picture on the internet out of many showing Ethiopians in Israel holding up signs
saying "I am Black and Proud" protesting Israeli anti Black racism against guests who?..themselves. The first Ethiopian miss Israel been
touted all over the world and in Israel as the fist Black miss Israel, and she and her family see and identify them selves as such.
I have never meth an Ethiopian who say they are not Black. Matter of fact they make you get the feeling that there might
be a fight if you attempt to think they are not...read that and weep.

Here is some sense for you: The Ethiopian in Israel know that they are not been discriminated against because
they are Ethiopian or Falasha or what ever their ethnic name is, but because they fit the physical description of
what is seen as Black people and are therefore Black people. Rather than denying that part of them selves because
of discrimination they assert it...so all the garbage you are posting here you speak for no one but your self.

axum: The Somalis I post are no different than normal Somalis.

While you show Bantus with weaves, who don't have Bantu features. lmao

A Somali wedding. Average Somalis.

Your loathing and hatred of Somalis is clear.
Most of those women in the picture you posted look like recent mix people
mix with non Africans..we already know what most Somalis look like, even
Somalis them selves disagree that that's how most Somalis look.

axum: No one was talking about your thirsty compliments.

The people saying Somalis/Ethiopians are good looking are not only Negroids, but Whites/Arabs/Asians/Hispanics

Despite being 100 million, we Cushitics are more than half the models from Africa. look at the Negroids models like Alek Wek, lmao

Unless you are retaaarded, know that we don't care fore you, your kind were slaves in Somalia/Ethiopia only 100 years ago.

I don't think you are Somali, even if you have some connection to Somali I don't think you are native
and look like most Somali. I noticed that "Somalis" with mentality approaching yours don't look like
the most Somali.

axum: Lol, dont change the subject.

Their are ugly people in every group.

But even white racists, asians, hispanics, will tell you flat out that Bantus are the ugliest and Somalis/Ethiopians are prettier.

our square forehead, straight nose, soft hair, with our brown complexion looks very noble.

You guys are short, dark, thick lips, wide nose, nappy hair, and very child like. As shown by your history of enslavement.

Ha ha sooner are later I know you would come out with it.
Because its impossible to have your views and don't look down on dark skin
which is the color most Somalis have. Along with wolly hair (that you called nappy), thick lips and wide noes,
all attributes that you use to try and insult other Africans, and that your master tell you to hate, well he tell you
to hate yourself if your are Somali.

"white racists, asians, hispanics" it shouldn't be surprising if those people go with attributes they consider
more similar to them selves as been more beautiful such as been lest robustly built. Moreover "asians, hispanics"
are not immune from been influence by European/"white" standard of beauty. You are very ignorant with no intellectual dept,
and then you of all people going to refer anyone as "child like"?

"white racists"? we know that's where your inspiration came from..man you are dumbbb!

axum: So your best women looking are the ones with fake hair, and the very very very few who don't have a wide nose that is the normal of your people.

Of the hundreds of Millons of Negroids, that is what you posted. LMAO

Are you an idioooot? all those girls have wide nose. How do you know that's not their real hair?
Somali women straighten their hair too. And the picture show Lela Lopez wearing her natural hair in her crown.
The point is these women are beautiful regardless of how they wear their hair.

The white man created a lot of myth about Africans all over Africa. One of them is that most west Africans have
exaggerated wide noes, when the truth is most west African noes lay in-between their exaggerated wide version
and narrow. Another of the white man myth is that the Cushitic and Semitic speaking people of east Africa have
narrow noes and thin lips, look like white people, have straight/wavy hair, sometime even light skin and on and on.
When the truth is most Cushitic and Semitic speaking people of east Africa have thick/full lips, wide noes even when high
generally wide(and also lay between the exaggerated wide and narrow and thin ), dark skin and do not look like "white" people, the exception to all that is a minority.
But some people including some Blacks take this straw man and run with it without even thinking.
So its not surprising that you are looking at west Africans and end up been confused
when they don't fit such myth.

axum: Somalia and Djibouti (Both Ethnically Somali countries) were voted the best looking women in Africa this last month. Negroid looks are disgusting and backwards not to mention primitive.

Of all the Negroids, I can't believe a South African (whose entire black population just got out of house arrest 20 years ago is talking to me).

But stranger things have happened.

Plain ignorance again. And again you are putting down Somali people who you claim to represent.
Negroid= like Black. Primarily refer to dark skin, if you read some of the books written by Europeans
whose word "Negroid" is, you will see them refer to Somalis as "Negroid" or "Negro". The reason
why Europeans flip back and forth with the meaning of their own words and terms is because
they cant determine the meanings of their own words and terms.

You are trapped in Eurocentric pseudo science racism concepts who view all Africans as inferior to them.
It matter lest what you think of other Africans, what matters more is your promotions of eurocentric
white supremacy ideas which only served to glorify and empower euro-centric white supremacy at the expense
of everybody else. If you are a "white" troll it matters not..but if you are Somali its a different story.

axum: Lmao, people from all across the world voted for Somalis as the best looking people in Africa. This same people across the world voted that Black women were the ugliest of any race.

That depend on the standards used by those voted to determine beauty. Different standards used by different people.
"Black women were the ugliest of any race" is laughable,and I am referring to
none Somali, Amhara, Tigre/Tigranya/Eriteans Oromo Black women here. A study like this "Black women were the ugliest of any race"
was in the news about a year or so ago, I don't know if its the same one,
and it was rightfully label and scrutinized like it was: plain racism.

By the way majority of Somali, Amhara, Tigre/Tigranya/Eriteans Oromo etc. fit the physical designation of Black people,
therefore they are Black people...again, send them to Israel and you will see, and again most of said people see them selves as Black people.

One thing you didn't mention is whether or not the people who voted group Somali, Amhara, Tigre/Tigranya/Eriteans Oromo women
in their Black women group, whom they laughable claim are the "ugliest of any race". If they do they would
be also saying that Somali, Amhara, Tigre/Tigranya/Eriteans Oromo women are the "ugliest of any race" compare to others.

And based on the fact that Somali, Amhara, Tigre/Tigranya/Eriteans Oromo are also targets of anti Black racism
in none Black dominated countries, its safe to say that they are group as Black women.

ArtanK: The Axumite rulers were Tigrigna. Despite being the rulers of the land, the Christians didn't have much influence on Somalis who were followers of Waaq back then. The Oromo ethnicity is completely made up and only a few centuries old. For example, the name Oromo wasn't their original name, it was Galla. Historians are still conflicted on what it means.

The 1977-78 war was started by Somalia and we had a right to. We actually defeated an Ethiopian army at least three times the size of the Somali National Army but in the end the USSR, Libya, South Yemen and Cuba joined the war. Obviously the SNA were overwhelmed and we lost the war. Some Ethiopian tribes are our natural enemies while some are our allies; Afars and Tigrayans of Eritrea.
Keep an eye on the Ethiopian elections coming up, we might regain our lost territory with out even lifting a finger.

Some Oromo said the name "Galla" was given to them by the Amharas, which the Oromos view as derogatory, and that
Oromo is their correct name. What I am wondering is - is there a connection between the ancient Egyptian(Kemet) name
"rm, or "rom" which means "men, the people, men above men" and the name "Oromo" especially in the sense where it means
people (the Oromos) like the term Bantu which also means the people. If that's the case not only would "Oromo" means the same thing as
the ancient Egyptian (Kemet) "rm, or "rom" but also basically the same word.

Also the fact that the ancient Egyptian (Kemet) didn't use vowels therefore they would write the word
"Oromo" as "rm"

ArtanK: Ignore him. This troll is pretending to be Somali.

I wouldn't be surprise if he is not Somali. There are many "white" trolls all over the internet
pretending to be Somalis, Ethiopians and a whole bunch of other things trying to create tensions
between groups of people, that's how much they got invested into it.

axum: My apologies, Axum took over Kush, then Kush took over Egypt. Axum (modern day horn of Africa) at one point controlled the entire horn, yemen, sudan and southern Egypt.

Kush take over Egypt(Kemet) then Axum take over Kush.
While it is vital to have correct knowledge of history that's not the main point of my conversation.
My main point is if your are Somali (indigenous Somali) your view of other Africans(Bantu, West Africans, Nilotes)
is reeetarded..calling them "niggers" a word that "white" Europeans who invented it also called horn Africans including Somalis.
Impersonating racists white groups such as the KKK, using their views words and concepts to insult other Africans,
when they also extend the same views words and concepts toward horn Africans, including Amharas, Tegray and Somalis.
Put on top of it, that's why I said every time you open your mouth trying to put down other Africans using these imported
childish ignorant bigoted "white" concepts such as noes, hair lips, facial handles you are also putting down Somalis etc.
who largely also share and overlap with these same features (wide noes, woolly hair, thick lips, slant facial handles), and nothing wrong with these features either. Which can also lead to Somalis and other honers subtly seeing their dark skin as inferior
The fact that Somalis etc are distinct don't change that, because not only are there distinctions between
Bantus and Bantus, West Africans and West Africans, Nilotes and Nilotes, but also between Somalis themselves, Amharas, Tegray etc.

If you have any doubts read about the experiences of Ethiopian Jews in Israel..as a starting point.

axum: Islam was in Somalia for about 1,000 years, axum was more than 1,500 years ago, there was no such thing as the Somali, Amahara, Tigrey identity you know today.


The people in what is now Somalia, worshipped waq, and had the same dress code, spices as the same people in Egypt, since Axum took over egypt for a couple of hundred years.

Ancient Egyptian and Somali are Afroaasiatic languages, Somali being much older than Arabic.

I don't see how any of that dispute anything I said. If anything they agree with it.
Except: what time period did "Axum took over egypt for a couple of hundred years"?
Which according to you are responsible for the "same dress code, spices as the same people in Egypt"

axum: Amahara and Tigrey are my people (Cushitic), we may have our differences but I rather marry a Amahar or Tigrey than a Bantu, because Cushitic people at least look like humans from the 21st century not cavemen like Bantus

HA HA..that's all you got? you are a real simpleton
You might have just blown your trolling "white" racists pretending to be Somali cover with that statement.
HA HA, "Amahara and Tigrey" is not "Cushitic" they are Semitic, HA HA.

Moreover: many "Amahara, Tigrey" and "Cushitic" overlap with Bantus in their looks, and don't all look the same way,
and don't look like "white people" but look like African Blacks and predominantly think of them selves as such.

The real cave man is your masters. If you are a Somali(indigenous) you are retarded and slave minded to the point
that you reverence the "white" man your master and what he do, and say to the point you even think you
are apartheid "white" Boer, hence your view of the very term Bantu as "degrading", and think you are the ku klax klan.
The same goes for any Somali who think like you.

Are you dark-skinned?

freeafrica365: Yup! They were bruddah!

I have since deleted a few, estimate 12.

I dont think whites that are in South Africa, Kenya or anywhere else are African
I count those that are black in skin as African.

They debated me on naturally born there. My argument? They are NOT indigenous nor are their ancestors.

Yep, sad indeed!

I agree, like you I don't see "white" people born in Africa as Africans.
The closest they come is "European-African"

EvilBrain1: Our ancestors were not just ape-like, they were apes. In fact, every human being on this planet is an ape. Chimpanzees are more closely related to humans than they are to gorillas. And we, with the chimps and gorillas form a natural group (the African apes) that is genetically distinct from orangutans and the lesser apes (gibbons).

Humanity are just one branch on the great tree of life. You can trace our ancestry back through monkey-like primates, to rodent-like mammals, to reptilians, to fish-like creatures, and all the way back to the unicellular organisms that are the grandparents of all life on earth.

How you feel about this doesn't matter. Its the truth and you'll just have to deal with it.

Does any monkeys carry the mtdna and ydna of humans?

freeafrica365: Oh ok. Sorry sista. It started with my post on facebook. I said whites / european in South Africa are NOT African. So it got real heated. A lady said someone else just discussed this matter on a different forum, and she thinks that definition would suit us best...as to what is really African and what isnt.

I hope most of the people who got heated wasn't Blacks or African Blacks themselves, in support that "Europeans in South Africa
are Africans"

axum: Also Somalis were the first to defeat Europeans, with Cannons no less, when your kind were in the jungles. This was 500 years ago.

Are you adding new things to your posts after they are already replied to?
Your masters from Europe are very deceptive, did he teach you that too?

Who are my kind? what jungle? are the Amharas your kind? (you probably hate them too since hate is what you do best)
My "kind" wasn't in a jungle they were busy defeating your masters, and they didn't use cannons because they had none,
but your masters did but still were defeated. I know your masters didn't tell you that?
he just told you lies about jungle. While if it wasn't for his cannons the other remnants of my "kind" - The Great Ashantis and Benin etc. would of send him packing back to England like my ancestors their kins did.

He didn't tell you that in his supposedly "jungle" he was busy looting gold figurines
and beautiful bronze art works and blocks of produced gold etc.? Those things don't look like they grow in "jungle" to me.

axum: dumbasssss, the country you now know as Ethiopia was Abyssinia 60 years ago, and the same ethnic groups who live on that land also lived in the land that was called Axum, the same cities same languages.


You are truly and idiot. Even the people there called themselves Somali, Oromo, Amhara, etc. and had the same religion as they do today.

"dumbasssss"..? YOU of all people is actually calling someone that?

And your dumbbb reply not only further confirms that you are dumbbb, it also confirms what
I just told you - that just because a country has a name "60 years ago" does not mean that was its name and location
2000 years ago, but of course its not surprising that you would have comprehension problems, such as what Ethiopia was called
2000 years ago, your statement about Axum is even more irrelevant to the point.

Ancient Kush which was in the Sudan was called Ethiopia thousands of years ago before modern Ethiopia.
The ancestors of modern Ethiopia which include Axum, as well as Somalis could have been part of ancient Kush,
could have been the people of Punt, I am not "hating" on Somalis I leave the hate to you. It could have included
people who migrated to west, central and southern Africa. So to say it was a specific African people or location exclusively
without all the evidence needed besides just a modern name when we got the Sudan, Chad and so on is not the full story.
Yet its good that a modern African country in one of the possible location of ancient Punt to bear that name.
Same with modern Ethiopia whose people were also part of the people affiliated with the ancient term Ethiopian.

Are you telling me that you know what religion the ancient Puntite had?
or are you saying that Somali, Oromo, Amhara, etc. have the same religion as the Axum-ites?

axum: IQ, lmao, you mean those inaccurate tests that only measure peoples iq who speak English which debunked since african countries with english speakers scored higher than non english speaking countries?

Also Somalis were the first to defeat Europeans, with Cannons no less, when your kind were in the jungles. This was 500 years ago.

Dont place your misguided european hierarchy world view upon me. It is you who has an inferiority complex when you think those of your kind with wide noses and thick lips are ugly.

No don't get me wrong, its not me who say your IQ is 68 and that the Bantus etc. whom your "white" master told you to hate is higher,
its your "white" master who says it.

You might have got me mixed up with something else such as your self, who used "european hierarchy world view"
to measure African esthetics. My "kind" don't only have "with wide noses and thick (sexy) lips" they also have narrower noes and
thinner lips and are BLACK. I don't consider "wide noses and thick lips" as ugly because they are not.
On the other hand, you who are obviously "misguided by european hierarchy world view", and suffers from "inferiority complex" DO
If the choice is between noses and lips, I would chose the WIDE and THICK ones FIRST. I am not like you, if I was I would KILL myself
Oh by the way, I considered thin lips and narrow noes like that of your "white" masters as UGLY

axum: Punt was in Somalia, as their is an entire state in northern Somalia called Puntland. Ancient Egyptians/Arabs all described northern Somalia as the land of spices.

Meanwhile in the armpit of Africa you guys were hunting monkeys like you still do to this day, and dying of Ebola and Hiv.

There is a country in Africa named Ghana and one name Ethiopia, does that mean they are the ancient Ghana and Ethiopia?
That's all you got? you are dumb as a rat tail.
Of course you like to see other Africans die, just like your Nazi "white" masters
The only monkeys they hunt is you

[quote author=axum][/quote]If you are indeed Somali.. the "white" man got you degrading your own Somali people every time you open your mouth
trying to degrade other Africans so he can get the glory, you are the "white" man's bi.ch of Africa..your master say your IQ is only 68
maybe there is some truth to it.

axum: ... Egypt history even shows they were trading with people in the land of Punt.

meanwhile you guys were in the jungle of Africa looking for monkey meat.

Ha HA..I see your "white" and Turko-Arab racists masters taught you well...(or maybe you are just a troll pretending to be Somali)
Except what they taught you are lies.

And Punt does not seem like it was in Somalia, the evidence point to it been
closer to Kush somewhere around the Sudan...And pharaoh Ramses 3 is the same ydna as
the Africans your masters told you are from the "jungle"
Your masters forget to tell you that those "jungle" Africans build kingdoms and empires in the "jungles"
at a time when he build nothing in his jungle caves.