₦airaland Forum

Lithiumite:
You help me with this....is Nigeria working the way it is currently structured

Why would a state gov not be able to pay 70k minimum wage.

You can call it distraction but I call it long Overdue.

I have been following politics since 1991 and I know the ideological stand of all the 3 presidential aspirants in the last election and I know this has always been what tinubu had been clamouring for when he was in opposition so I would rather support it because true federalism is the solution to our problems.

help you with what?

have you negated what I said and answered the questions I asked?

CyrusVI:
NL is the only place where i see people draw a direct link between IQ point and voting preference

Anywhere in the world, that isnt the case

So rich of you to think you're smarter than the over 7m people that voted him

But i know you're Chibuikem, I expected this actually

let me ask you, what makes a person smart?

SmartPolician:
Why are nigerians not getting the fuel for N600? That's because the landing cost (I assume you know what this means) of refined PMS at our port is #1200 per litre. If the NNPC decides to sell anything less than that, it means the government is still paying subsidy. Since Tinubu has refused to pay the subsidy, NNPC is selling at half the price, thereby owing companies that supply PMS to Nigeria billions of dollars.

How does the naira affect the price? Crude oil is an international commodity traded in USD. In other words, even if I want to sell to you in naira, I will have to sell in naira equivalent. When Tinubu came in, the USD was about 600 or so. Now, he floated the naira; it's now one USD to #1600. Can you now see how we cannot get cheap PMS again?

The only way we can buy PMS for 160 is if the FG decides to dash 😂😂 crude oil to Dangote, which is impossible because the IOCs have joint partnership with the NNPC and ought to get a share for every drop of crude oil they extract.


Some background information
Nigeria is a member of OPEC, an international organisation that fixes prices for crude oil and gives her member nations their supply quota. It means that the price and quantity Nigeria sells in the international market is determined by OPEC.

Now, the IOCs (Shell, ExxonMobil, Chevron, etc) help Nigeria to extract this crude oil. NNPC represents Nigeria in this context. Once crude oil is extracted, the NNPC will determine the quantity Nigeria will sell to the foreign market according to OPEC requirements.

Afterwards, the NNPC will also determine the quantity we will refine locally in our 4 refineries. Unfortunately, these refineries aren't working now.

Since Tinubu has ordered the NNPC to sell crude oil to Dangote in naira, the NNPC will only sell the crude oil to Dangote according to OPEC price (because Nigeria is under their treaty).

However, the FG can intervene and say we are giving a subsidy to Nigerians. This means that instead of the NNPC selling the crude oil at say $100 per barrel (I am assuming this is the current price of crude oil) to Dangote, they will sell it at $80 per barrel.

In other words, the FG is dashing us Nigerians $20 for every barrel refined. Because the FG has done this, Dangote will now sell his PMS at say #600 - 700 per litre because he knows that if he imports it, he will buy it at $100 per barrel or even more.

All this requires a lengthy explanation, but I believe you understand this.

which "landing cost" has been added to dangote's fuel that has made it not to be available for N600?

with current exchange rate, what percentage of the N897 per litre of dangote fuel was determined by the devalued naira?

sorry, what has OPEC " background information" got to do with what I asked?

Lithiumite:
You are only spinning your own narrative to an imperative action that would set the ground norm for a great country we all seek just because I hate tinubu's face......it doesn't matter who does it so far it's what will augur well for us all,it's long over due .....with this policy,the power of Abuja will be greatly diminished and more responsibility given to states.

As for state that can't take on 70k minimum wage,I already told you that is a very lame escapist analogy by the lazy govs who want status quo to remain to their own benefit.....if you support them good luck to you!! No gov has no excuse not to pay 70k minimum wage......there will be a provision in the law that will make states start state policing when they are ready to,such states will still make use of the federal police buts states that can would be allowed to go ahead.
Hate tinubu all you want but he is one of the most purposeful politicians we have in the south alongside Wike,they are bold and have the political will to push anything they want unlike GEJ.....nobody can push them around remember it was Wike that brought up the vat matter,tinubu has brought lg autonomy and state police,this are what we need to set us on a pedestal for development no more Abuja controling what happens in your LGA.

if am spinning my own narrative, which narrative are u spinning?

will all the grammar you have written, how have they answered the questions I asked or negated the points I raised?


tinubu getting certain things right? de there de deceive yourself.

states that say they cant pay 70k min wage, how will they fund state police?

you dont know tinubu. he has thrown this one to you so that you can be distracted from the fuel suffering he just introduced.

you are expecting a man with no iota of honesty, patriotism, competence or empathy to do anything for the right purpose?

all the best with believing tinubu

deji17:
Don't make the mistake to think I owe you any answer. That being said, if you don't understand what I wrote, that is fine too. Have a nice life.

I didnt ask you for understanding. this is what I asked you.

that is not what I asked you.

deji17:
You have no hope because your favourite lost the election and you don't wish the country well. You issue is understandable

1. what does the highlighted "YOU issue is understandable" mean?

2. who is my "favourite' that lost the election?

3. which election are you referring to?

4. can you show the discussion we had where we talked about me having a favourite or not having a favourite?

5. pls, what is the state of the country right now?

6. are things getting better under tinubu or are things getting worse?

Lithiumite:
Leaders with foresight is what we have been lacking as a country but this one seems to have the political will to right some wrongs we have been suffering for a long time......you have heard stories of certain tribes killing certain locals over land or livestock,the CP or gov can't act immediately to check them because they have to await directive from Abuja which may be delayed or may never come.....that's the problem we are facing with our current security architecture.

Govs for too long have been hiding under Abuja and pointing fingers to cover their own ineptitude now they are getting blown out of the water as more responsibility is being pushed to them,how can a gov say he can't pay 70k minimum wage and you agree with him,that's nothing but BS,if you aren't competent,leave the damn place for those who can.

I tell you,this policing move and LG autonomy are the game changers that would steer us towards wholistic development as a country especially the sub nationals......some regions are contributing so much to our GDP while some are doing absolutely nothing....we cant continue like this....... everything isn't tinubu,Buhari or Jonathan,Nigeria as a country is defective and we need to start changing things for our own good.

bros, you failed to answer the questions I asked and negate the points I raised.

tinubu getting certain things right? de there de deceive yourself.

states that say they cant pay 70k min wage, how will they fund state police?

you dont know tinubu. he has thrown this one to you so that you can be distracted from the fuel suffering he just introduced.

you are expecting a man with no iota of honesty, patriotism, competence or empathy to do anything for the right purpose?

all the best with believing tinubu

Kusu12:
Nothing meaningful in your empty skull to contribute. Just wailing, grunting and peddling falsehood.

since your skull is not empty but full of cotton wool and saw dust, kindly answer the questions I asked and negate the points I raised. all the best.

tinubu getting certain things right? de there de deceive yourself.

states that say they cant pay 70k min wage, how will they fund state police?

you dont know tinubu. he has thrown this one to you so that you can be distracted from the fuel suffering he just introduced.

you are expecting a man with no iota of honesty, patriotism, competence or empathy to do anything for the right purpose?

all the best with believing tinubu

deji17:
Your issue is understandable. This is in reference to those bellyaching because their candidate lost the last election. You don't necessarily have to personalize it but some.people just don't wish the country well nor interested in admitting progress . The country is going through a phase of economic resetting so there will be initial pain then things will start taking better shape.
The issue now is about fuel price , availability and transport cost. As it is today, what will make fuel price cheaper and readily available is subsidy. Many Nigerians agreed that subsidy payment on fuel is not sustainable if we are hoping to develop. Alternatives are being put in place and it may not go round immediately. For example, Lagos which is the most populated state in Nigeria has introduced train which is meant to reduce our fuel demand and affordable transit system for people. BRT is subsidized. The problem is that many states are just irresponsible and there is not much the President can do ( no matter who that President is). So blaming Tinubu or FG will not solve the problem.
There are other things that are being introduced like the conversion of vehicles to use compressed natural gas instead of petrol. These among many other initiatives is not something that the impact nor its distribution will go round immediately.

that is not what I asked you.

deji17:
You have no hope because your favourite lost the election and you don't wish the country well. You issue is understandable

1. what does the highlighted "YOU issue is understandable" mean?

2. who is my "favourite' that lost the election?

3. which election are you referring to?

4. can you show the discussion we had where we talked about me having a favourite or not having a favourite?

5. pls, what is the state of the country right now?

6. are things getting better under tinubu or are things getting worse?

Meti99:
Just keep quiet.
Interest of the statte comes first.
It's people like you that will still throw shades and judge Tinubu after his 8years of not achieving anything.
Transformation must start somewhere, stop seeing negativity in everything

if I dont keep quiet, what will you do about it?

what exactly is the interest of the state that comes first?

what has tinubu achieved so far in the last one year?

what is the transformation that has started that is starting somewhere? where is the somewhere?

tinubu getting certain things right? de there de deceive yourself.

states that say they cant pay 70k min wage, how will they fund state police?

you dont know tinubu. he has thrown this one to you so that you can be distracted from the fuel suffering he just introduced.

you are expecting a man with no iota of honesty, patriotism, competence or empathy to do anything for the right purpose? a

all the best with believing tinubu

Standing5:
keep shut kbjk.

which "market realities" be that?

are you living under a rock or are you sleeping and slumbering?

is it "market realities" that fixed price of fuel at N897?

Pootle:
good move shows the govt understand the severity of the situation. but the problem is can they find a positive way out

is it not the same government that determined that NNPC will be sole buyer and decided to fix price at N897?

summoning them for what exactly? is it like he didnt know when they decided to fix the price at N897?

weyreypey:
I find it funny to think that Labour Party supporters in the 2023 elections are yet to get over the loss. It's been like they are have developed PTSD post traumatic stress disorder...a very acute one. They're being consumed yet they think mocking Tinubu supporters is the right way to go.

No wonder Obi lost. A good politician ought to know that you need to reach across different divides especially in the troubled period for consolidation in the forthcoming elections.
But LP faithfuls and a few tribal bigots will never understand the need. Simply because rescuing Nigeria was never the motivation but power grab...to oppress others... Such is their deep pain....when they failed

is it it the imaginary PTSD that you saw labour party supporters have that is responsible for tinubus failure in governance and the suffering ngerians are experiencing as a result of tinubus woeful policies and actions?

the man that you say won, how has he made nigeria a better country and how has he made life better for nigerians?

are things getting better under tinubu or they are getting worse?

are you not the one having PTSD because tinubu has failed woefully but you are disappointed but you cant admit it? instead you are talking about obi and labour party supporters when the topic is about how tinubus policies has thrown the entire country into more suffering?

in the last one year, what has tinubu done for nigerians?

weyreypey:
I find it funny to think that Labour Party supporters in the 2023 elections are yet to get over the loss. It's been like they are have developed PTSD post traumatic stress disorder...a very acute one. They're being consumed yet they think mocking Tinubu supporters is the right way to go.

No wonder Obi lost. A good politician ought to know that you need to reach across different divides especially in the troubled period for consolidation in the forthcoming elections.
But LP faithfuls and a few tribal bigots will never understand the need. Simply because rescuing Nigeria was never the motivation but power grab...to oppress others... Such is their deep pain....when they failed

if you say that "LP faithfuls and a few tribal bigots will never understand the need. Simply because rescuing Nigeria was never the motivation but power grab...to oppress others...", so what was tinubus motivation for seeking the office of president?

deji17:
You have no hope because your favourite lost the election and you don't wish the country well. You issue is understandable

what does the highlighted mean?

who is my "favourite' that lost the election?

which election are you referring to?

can you show the discussion we had where we talked about me having a favourite or not having a favourite?

pls, what is the state of the country right now?

are things getting better under tinubu or are things getting worse?

Geometrix:
Please o! Someone should clear me on this! How much is Nigeria daily crude oil output? I thought they said it's in the region of 1.3 millions barrel per day. Does it mean that we are no longer using a part of the oil to pay for debts that NNPCL can supply up to 30million barrels to Dangote?

the more you look, the less you see

SmartPolician:
That thing you asked for is impossible. You'd better wake up to reality. The value of naira has depreciated. The best price Nigerians can get is #600 per litre.

why are nigerians not getting the fuel for N600?

pls explain how the value of the naira affects price of fuel that is produced locally?

Standing5:
Good step but refining can yield different output depending how the refiner chooses to refine. That means petrol output can be avoided based on market realities and diesel output increased.

which "market realities" be that?

are you living under a rock or are you sleeping and slumbering?

is it "market realities" that fixed price of fuel at N897?

johnson4nosa:
Are you sure Tinubu knows he is a president

he knows. his idea of being president is not serve nigerians as dictated by the constitution. his idea of being president is to be an emperor

deji17:
What happened to conversion to gas?

you go old. no be only gas. na air

[quote author= post=131869711]This is the kind of news that makes you to be shining your teeth?
See how happy you are.

Only bad news like this make you and your ilks happy and dance all around your village?

People dey oooooo.[/quote]is it his happiness that is responsible for tinubus incompetence, lack of empathy, wickedness, bad leadership and failure in governance?

is it his happiness that is responsible for the increase in the price of fuel and the suffering nigerians are going thru as as a result?

why dont you focus on the cause of the bad news which tinubu who you ass lick just like you ass licked buhari for 8years?

or are you buying fuel for N50 per litre because you lick tinubus ass?

Lithiumite:
It's the best thing that would happen together with full LG autonomy...... people who reason like you obviously don't know that Nigeria's problem is systemic and we can't achieve anything with this defective structure we are having.

Tinubu is getting certain things right but we know it can't be perfect from the beginning but it's never too late to start.

tinubu getting certain things right? de there de deceive yourself.

states that say they cant pay 70k min wage, how will they fund state police?

you dont know tinubu. he has thrown this one to you so that you can be distracted from the fuel suffering he just introduced.

you are expecting a man with no iota of honesty, patriotism, competence or empathy to do anything for the right purpose? a

all the best with believing tinubu

ggood:
State police is a dream come true, No Fulani invaders from Futa Jalon will be allow to cow from one place to another.

Any Fulani Invaders caught will be sent to hell by our able body State police men, If you want to feed your cow state in Zamfara, Sokoto, Jigawa, kaduna north, Yobe, Katsina, Bauchi , Gombe, northern Adamawa, Northern Borno, Northern Kebbi if you dare move down southern Nigeria and middle belt sorry is your name

de there de deceive yourself.

states that say they cant pay 70k min wage, how will they fund state police?

you dont know tinubu. he has thrown this one to you so that you can be distracted from the fuel suffering he just introduced

MIGHTYMAN82:
This type many for Nigeria

We even have quack president

They are not experiencing petrol scarcity

Truth234:
They are forcing him in-line based on the crude oil. If he acts otherwise, he will face challenges with crude oil again.

Exactly

Sonyboom765:
Come next election I will still not vote Peter Obi

Tinubu is still available. Is it Peter obi that will suffer from tinubus incompetence and non chalance?

AnyanwuSK:
Did you hear the reason why they accepted 70k as minimum wage? Tinubu betrayed them

Which means that tinubu didn't deceive them. They simply sold out

belini:
I will rather trust China than Us and Uk

so you believe all these things you read. who are people laundering money in Nigeria?

who are the sponosors of terrorism? are they ghosts?

AnyanwuSK:
Tinubu deceived NLC,
FG threatened to increase energy cost if they don't accept 70k as minimum wage, they accepted the 70k and now Tinubu is systematically increasing the cost of energy

tinubu did not deceive NLC. NLC sold out

tuoyoojo:
A game of cat and mouse

Nnpc said that they have not officially increased their price but their retail outlet have

Independent marketers increased their prices but they said they shouldn't because it is not yet official

So the cat and mouse game continues

there is no cat and mouse game anywhere. it just NNPC being deceptive

Quelme:
Something for election losers to regurgitate on!!!

how have the election "winners" made nigeria a better place to live in?