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iamoyindamola:
See vitinha spraying passes with freedom

That’s what you get with better movement up front

Conceicao red card. Deservedly so. That guy get emotional problems. Selfish, self centered and trying to dupe the ref. Olodo.

Portugal 2-1.

Felix assist. Ramos goal.

odizeey:
I don't understand your Ronaldo hate. E collect your babe?😃

Oh. I understand your situation now.

Pele my dear

MorataFC:
Oga, I actually understand your point, but I think you are the one still mixing up football clubs with football players.

Players are professionals. They are workers, just like you and me in our respective offices, so Barca is Barca with Messi and Barca is still Barca without Messi. The same applies to every other football club.
So why should the actions, controversies, or sins of an entire club be placed solely on the shoulders of one player simply because he played for them?
A football club is bigger than any individual player. Players come and go, but the club remains. Messi was a Barcelona player, he wasn't Barcelona FC itself.

A player can represent Barcelona today, and the same player plays for Chelsea tomorrow, or any another club after that. So why should supporting or appreciating a player automatically be interpreted as supporting everything his former club represents?


And can we apply the same logic consistently to CR7? He played for Man U, and Man U are Chelsea rivals and they did PDP to us too. Does that mean a Chelsea fan who admires Ronaldo suddenly becomes less of a Chelsea fan or be termed clueless? Of course not. If the argument is that appreciating a rival club's player makes you clueless or disloyal, then the same standard has to apply to everybody.

Look at Liverpool too. We all remember the 2022 Carabao Cup Final and lukaku scored a genuine goal but the goal was LiVARpooled, should I therefore say any Chelsea fan who praises Mohamed Salah, TAA or another Liverpool player is clueless? That would make no sense.

Welbeck has scored against Chelsea multiple times, yet today he is a Chelsea player. That's football.

Players move. Players change clubs. Players are professionals. The shirt they wear can change, their individual football ability doesn't suddenly disappear because they put on a rival's shirt.

That's why I don't understand the idea that appreciating Messi somehow makes someone a clueless Chelsea fan. You can be 100% Chelsea and still recognise greatness when you see it.

I may have my personal beef with Barcelona because of what they did to Chelsea. I may not wish them well, I can banter them, celebrate when Chelsea beat them, But when you begin to show hatred to their former player(s), it makes no sense. I can dislike the team, but not the players.

LooL. Morata, you’re the one misunderstanding my point.

Appreciating Messi doesn’t make you a clueless Chelsea fan. That’s not what I said. But embracing Barca today after all the ojoro they did during that time makes your Chelsea bond questionable.

Cos I don’t believe you can witness the ojoro (and hurt) that Barca did to your team LIVE during that time and proclaim love for them today. That match wey no make you chop night food…wey for days you dey imagine how if things had been done fairly you could’ve won… You forget all that hurt and forgive them and start supporting them? I don’t buy it.

odizeey:
Mainoo go dey one place dey burst big tears now.

Certified bench player for club and country.

I don’t understand this Mainoo hate. E collect your gf?

MorataFC:
This is honestly one of the most clueless and trash takes I’ve seen in years.
What kind of logic is this? You think appreciating Messi makes someone a clueless Chelsea fan? No. It simply means they have enough football knowledge to recognise greatness when they see it.

You can support Chelsea with your whole heart and still appreciate Messi. Chelsea is my club, Messi is football history. Messi isn’t just a footballer, he’s an SI unit of football. When you want to measure greatness, you use Messi as the reference point.

So do you think if Barcelona came calling for Drogba signing after the Overobo's incident the following season, do you think Drogba would refuse simply because Barcelona are Chelsea’s rivals? And if he eventually played against Chelsea in UCL and had the chance to score, do you think he would deliberately miss because he once played for us? Of course not. He is a professional footballer doing his job. Rivalry is part of football hatred is not.

That is where some of you have completely lost the plot. You have turned football clubs into cults, like Aye and Eiye confraternities cults, where we see rivals clubs as enemies, and where appreciating a rival player is treated like betrayal and supporting another player becomes some kind of crime. Rival clubs are NOT enemy, we are there for ourselves to make the game better and sweeter when we banter ourselves, we are sporting rivals not enemies, that is why after 90 minutes, footballers shake hands, exchange shirts, laugh together and maintain friendships. Yet some fans are online behaving as if they are preparing for war.

Football is a game, not a battlefield. I personally witnessed a horrifying incident in Ibadan around 2008 or 2009 where a disagreement between a Chelsea fan and a Man U fan at a viewing, where a cheasea fan stabbed a man u to death, that is what happens when you see a rival as an enemy.

So no, I will not accept this ridiculous idea that supporting Messi somehow makes someone a “clueless” Chelsea fan. I can love Chelsea, defend Chelsea, celebrate Chelsea and still acknowledge that Messi is the greatest footballers to ever touch a football.

If your definition of being a “real Chelsea fan” then hating on the rivals clubs, then you are not demonstrating fair play that is associated with football entertainment.

Support your club. Defend your colours. Enjoy the rivalry. But don't lose your humanity in the process. Football is entertainment, not war.

Oga, cool your pants down. You are missing the point.

Messi has gotten to a level where you cannot but acknowledge his greatness even if you hate him. To do otherwise would be folly. That’s why I’ve been defending him against Barca fans who don’t seem to understand how massive he has been.

But you see that fokkking Barca? Nothing can make me wish them well. I like Raphinha and I’d be happy if he scores a hattrick every matchday- as long as Barca concedes like 5 goals. If Barca plays against Umukuro Junior, I’m backing the local team to win.

May God go punish that ojoro team. They were good during that Pep era, dem come add ojoro join. For what?? How can you witness the Drogba frustration and even that Van Persie red card live and wish them well? Na SAF f up cause the rubbish sha.

That broke club will eventually sell all their assets and liquidate insha Allah. 😀

larride:
Thankfully after this long break, no more international break till next year.

Enough time for us to cry plenty tears 😭 😭😭

Neymar1095:
How many world cup and euros final did Messi play at 19 talk less of being a star at a team that won both. You actually don't have anything to say..

Lool. You’re the one yarning dust. Being carried to a World Cup final doesn’t make you a GOAT. Carrying your team on your back, no matter what for many years, does. Yamal has done little to show that he can do that consistently for the next half decade.

From hyping Neymar you’ve now moved to hyping Yamal. It will end in tears Chinedu

andrewbaba44:
See bad belle ,na una way as usual

At the end of the day na only Ronaldo for Man U history go Dey greater than yamal

The kid don already surpass many of your legend

How many of your legends even win euros and wc ?

How many of your legends don finish second for ballon d or history ?

You no go wan like see yamal individual awards ,even rooney go hide

All these ones na hype.

Until he scores 91 goals in one calendar year, drag his country to THREE World Cup finals (instead of being carried), and win multiple ballon dors for several consecutive years, keep the Yamal hype to a minimum.

Has he even played in a champions league final ever before or won it? Stop this noise abeg.

Neymar1095:
Unless Yamal has a career altering Injury like De Lima he's going to surpass Messi. He's already 19 and has world cup and Euros so international pressure is already off. He still has a minimum of 3 world cups to play and is already favourites to win his first balon dor at his young age. The sky is the limit.

Okay.

He go join Borjan Kirikiri and others with time no worry.

Neymar1095:
Unless he has a career ending injury he's already on course and likely will. At 19 he already has the world cup and Euros. He could still win two more world cups and another Euros. He is already the fav to win this balon dor. He's head and shoulders above the nearest Young competition young unless Estavao reaches his peak. Mbappe is nearly 29 so Yamal has time on his side to win 3 to 6 balon dors.

Neymar was better at a younger age. He didn’t surpass Messi. Did you see Mbappe at 19? Young Rooney nko? Very hot prospects.

The most difficult thing to achieve in football is to replicate top performances on a consistent basis, delivering results no matter what no matter when. Over several years.

You think say e easy? Bro. That sh33t is freaking tough and downright impossible.

That is why Messi and Ronaldo are aliens.

Neymar1095:
Yamal has already replaced Messi and is on course to surpass him unless he massively drops off or gets injured. Mbappe was surpass to replace Ronaldo but has failed at it.

Yamal cannot surpass Messi. He may even have peaked sef 😀

Nemesis0147:
I watched all those games but as a Chelsea fan…I will support Barca over Real Madrid any day anytime twice on Thursday and Messi over Ronaldo too.

Gen Z Chelsea fan . You can’t watch that ojoro game live as a Chelsea fan and say you support Barca now. It was so f-ing blatant that the ref was against Chelsea…wey dem dey hold Drogba at final whistle make e no go deck the guy…?

Nah. You’re an indomie generation Chelsea fan

Nemesis0147:
I saw the post and SMH
A coach should come and apologize publicly for not playing a 41 years old man…..match wey he win oh😂😂

Someone that is not okay

andrewbaba44:
They should have calm down with moving on with his iconic number 7

I hope Rafael leao will reject it out of respect

Reject fire.

CR7 didn’t cover himself in glory. He’s their worst striker by a mile and they just tolerated him because of his past feats.

By walking out, he betrayed all his teammates, just because he has beef with the manager.

If Leao rejects the number, it will be out of fear due to intense pressure Pendu fans’. Ronaldo lost that respect he deserved with his antics and tantrums. He didn’t respect his teammates or country, why should they reciprocate?

The way Portugal go take beat Denmark tonight ehn…

The guy actually thinks he’s the almighty. Ikorodu Yhwach

Omoluabi16:
What a shame. It is so difficult to back this guy. Ultimately, he will have no one to blame but himself. He will have national team mates celebrating his exit. Fantastic footballer but a very terrible attitude. A man child. After what he has done for football, for Portugal this is the 'good riddance to bad rubbish ' way he choose to leave. No parade, no 80,000 people cheering or tearing up. Not even a role model, who should be making way for the next generation. 41 year old grandpa should FO!

Imagine wanting to be the main attraction, wanting to start all games when you offer craaap all game long? I don’t get the selfishness.

To get the best out of him sef, he should be selecting games in which he’ll play. Giggs lasted as long as he did at Man Utd because SAF selected games he played.

I don’t get all these man tantrums ogunmepon is throwing. It’s embarrassing

TrebleChamp:
Heard Sene Lammens was the star of the show in Belgium last 2 Nations League game against France and Italy, if the performance was bad update for full this thread...

Normal now.

CrystalTiger:
City's cheating is even ridiculous and outrightly foolish..How do you report better revenue than the 3peat UCL Madrid team?

Wilcox and Berrada need to be sacked too if it's found out that they were employees when the cheating happened..

Have you seen Berrada’s LinkedIn? Be like say na him be chief facilitator of the whole fraud

hensben:
Any attacker can score hatrick but Ronaldo doesn’t affect the game if he didn’t score, that’s what we mean by overall play. There is a reason if he doesn’t score in a match his rating is low unlike Messi and other talented players.

Any attacker can score hattrick?

Thunder fire you.

How many hattricks did Drogba score? TFY 1sM!

hensben:
You are obviously a gen z so you can’t handle my deep football knowledge. Ronaldo is only world class in scoring goals, he is average in every other aspect of the game unlike Messi. At 41/42 Ibrahimovich won seria a for ac milan. At 41, Ronaldo is like a player wearing timberland to play football, can’t even do basics yet want to keep on starting for Portugal because of 1000 goals. Messi won under 20 World Cup 2005 while ronaldo was trash in Olympic 2004. Man U were winners before Ronaldo so he did nothing unusual. He only had one world class season for Man U and that’s even a stretch. He is an artificial player who mastered how to use his thriving team mates refurbished himself by scoring goals, his all round play are not pleasing to the eyes. He succeeded in using his showing off to attract non-football lovers into the game hence we have stu.pid takes on football from his fans. In terms of playing football Ronaldo is not in top 10 best player of all time. There is a reason his fans point to 2008 Ronaldo while Messi doesn’t have any fall off since his breakout. Ronaldo stopped playing football since he left Man U and finally fell off since 2018 the rest are just media PR him vs Messi for click bait and more money.

Are you not the same guy that said Hazard and Messi are on the same level minus the goals?

Godx. What’s up with your club?

odizeey:
He's black and has dada

Dreads and black skinned. Have you seen Chelsea’s squad of recent? He’ll fit right in with dem Gusto and co

AirBere:

Funny but that's what he'll do next.

But why does he behave like this though? He's one of the best ever and has achieved so much.

Extreme Narcissism. The guy is so selfish he’s blind to reality. He sees himself as indispensable even though everyone knows he’s useless now.

But because of his past achievements he has a huge influence and no one wants to challenge him.

Na why dem dey call am Homelander. Agbaya.

Griffon:
It’s not like you have a problem with letting us shag your front and back financially.

Una still never survive the Mount hit, una jam another trailer.

On a serious note though, Santos is a good baller who needs a workaholic around him. I feel you guys will hit new heights with him now that you have Baleba around.

Don’t worry.

After Garnacho, the next player you are buying from us is Patrick Dorgu for 50m. He’s fit. He’s fast. He can play both wings effectively. Even more, he’s tailor made for 3atb formation which your coach loves.

We only need James to cop an injury. It can happen next January. God go do am.

andrewbaba44:
Ogunmepon don Dey get issues with Portugal coach ke

Shey e don reach like that 😂

He will soon do explosive interview with Piers Morgan. Selfish agbaya

Jamiuokolaa:
The matter loud

Can imagine how awkward it would be for Berrada rn.

SJR fit don dey use one kain eye look am

Mr. Tap In Fabrizio don post the news finally ? pressure don burst pipe eventually 😀

hensben:
His showing off on the pitch even while his overall play is minimal is what make you think this way. Ronaldo that will score tap in ot penalty and celebrate like he just scored a worthy goal. Three peat he won were actually decided by Ramos, bale, he mostly scored the second or third goal and then celebrate like he is the sole reason for their win. Or is it his Man U ucl win that he is missed his penalty. Some of his ucl goals were either diving for penalty or tap in. Just like Mbappe now scoring goals but Real Madrid is going trophyless. By the time they sign midfielders in the caliber of Modric and kroos prime and they start winning ucl your type will start giving the credit to Mbappe. Benzema actually sacrificed his prolific goals for cr7 by allowing him occupy central area unlike Higuain that can’t play other position aside CF, hence he was sold. Ronaldo only had one or two world class seasons in his career the rest were just glory hunting for goals to keep up with Messi’s debate. Little wonder he is chasing 1000 goals at the detriment of Portugal’s progress because him starting is like Portugal playing with 10 men. He is an international tournament flop only stat pad his international goals with Luxemburg and other small European teams in qualifiers. Couldn’t even deliver the league for Al nasal for years until Felix, mane and co came. Cr7 is a European project to make it look Messi has a rival but in reality he had none.

Person score hattrick in second leg against Athletico Madrid to reverse a 2-0 deficit, you say his overall play is minimal.

You don collect resetting slap before?

Nemesis0147:
and is MR what?
So Messi doesn’t give his all with 35 goals and 16 assists in finals?

Who is more clutch?

UncleHaba22:
Yamal had a better season than Mbappe except you want to lie to yourself

I said World Cup. Mbappe had a better output than Yamal in the World Cup. That is clear.

If the World Cup is the main criteria, Mbappe is ahead.