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ilynem:
All I am asking you is Quote. If you must copy and paste, do. I want to see the quote so I can explain. But I can see you aren't ready. You keep watching those ACADIP videos that lie without sources. Let me give you a piece of advice. I can call many names, hundreds of them, but let me just give you one. Go see David Wood on YouTube. Watch him expose your Koran by quoting authentic Islamic sources. So you can see the flaws in your Koran.
Peace.

ilynem:
Funny thing is, I know the verse you are talking about. Its about the age and the years of reign of King Solomon and I know the controversy you are trying to point out which is really really lame by the way. But I need you to quote it, then I will educate you on the problem. Then after we will talk about how the sun sets on murky water according to you Koran and how Alexander the great was a Muslim. And oh! How Allah uses shooting starts as missiles to shoot demons that are coming to heaven to spy on him. Your book sir, is a Joke.

fammo:
Source Proof Don't be in a haste to believe everything you read...

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greatjoey:
The part you quoted is but mere parable given. It is not an injunction. Jesus gave the parable when he was teaching about the need to trade with the little you have. In other words, about being industrious and winning souls for God. Both in your qoran and the Bible, did you ever read Where Jesus supervised, oversaw or carried out killings of people? It's a parable he gave to encourage winning souls for God. It is not like Mohammed who led wars to kill and subdue people and societies. Mohammed hands were full of human blood he killed.

ilynem:
You don't get the point. With the manuscripts available, errors or changes like you Muslim claim will be spotted and corrected. But Alas! None has been. Pick another argument. If you want to argue with me from my Bible, quote the scripture and make your point like I have been doing with your Koran. I am waiting.
PS: I have been listening to two of your greatest teachers Nadir Zaik (who is a joke) and Ally Shibir (who I really really do respect, even though he gets it wrong most times) and none of them bring up this Bible has been corrupted argument. Why? Because it is stale and has been debunked. So please, talk of something else.

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ilynem:
Yawn! This argument is old. I have told you we have the earliest manuscripts available to us. And each word in the Bible can be traced to the root word in the manuscripts. Manuscripts that were in existence even before the birth of your prophet. If you are willing to quote it and prove your point, then say something else.

Junior66:
Terrorism last 30yrs?? Usman Danfodio na wetin?

ilynem:
Expanded on what? You have explained nothing. She was called sister of Aaron and daughter of Amran. That title goes to Miriam and not Mary. And you have explained nothing.
If you wanna make a point, make it. Stop sending me to read passages of the Bible. Whenever I want to refer to the Koran, I always quote it. So please, do the same.

greatjoey:
No no no. My creator ain't blood thirsty. He is loving, most passionate, all knowing, merciful, forgiving, and a saviour. He is called ' the almighty God, Jehovah' Allah cannoot create a being. Allah can't be my creator. I worship a God who forbids killing of whoever., both innocent and the guilty. Vengeance is his. He does not enjoin me to kill the infidels but pray for them to come to repentance.

ilynem:
Wow! What a logic. Now you have changed your logic. You first said there was another Harun and now its sister of the second? Or whatever rubbish you came up with. See your pathetic attempt to justify the clear stupidity of the Koran. You still haven't explained why she was called Daughter of Imran though. And Jewish names derived from Arabic base? I really need to stop arguing with you. You ate really an ignorant man.

SmartchoicesNG:
Which question? Which certificate? Who amongst you has gone to ABU to verify your wicked rumours? No one! Yet you open your buccal cavity to utter fiendish statements about something you know​ nothing about!
Show us Buhari's certificates​!!! Or kip kwiet into your graves!

greatjoey:
Poor interpretation from you again. Sword as used there is figurative. It depicts cutting off from or separation from. You just made a lateral inference. Where have you seen a Christian use sword to eliminate parents for denying them from following God's word. In Christianity, killing of whosoever in sinful before God. Unlike Islam where you are enjoined to behead the heads of non believer. Bible entreats us to pray for our enemies, do good to those hate us, love our neighbours. But your religion in deception to lure non believers, tells you that whoever kills an INNOCENT person is seen to have killed the entire humanity. Who then is an innocent person based on this clandestine injunction? Islam is simply evil, Mohammed was a ganster, and Allah is a blood sucking demon. Deal with that.

ilynem:
Miriam is Jewish. She was sister of Aaron. Read the Bible ya?

ilynem:
Oh please! Amran is Jewish while Imran is Arabic just like Abraham is Jewish and Ibrahim is Arabic. So Imran is a family that produced prophets, how many did it produce? Isn't it obvious? Let me break it down for you.
Mary is called Maryam in Arabic.
There is a sister of Moses and Aaron by the name of Miriam.
Allah thought this Miriam was the same Maryam the mother of Jesus and hence called her sister of Aaron.
And just so you know, there is absolutely no proof that Mary is from a priestly family. In fact the Angel Gabriel said her son will take the throne of his father David and this means that she is actually from the lineage of Judah! She had no brother called Aaron (Harun) and her father was not Amran (Imran) but Joachim.
And as for me running away from arguments? There is nothing else to argue. I have already established that your Koran is a violent book and war cry to you Muslims to spill blood. And you blaming the west for all the Islamic terrorists is just a weak attempt I can't even start arguing with you. I guess all the terrorist attacks (even the recent one in London) was also done by the west? And you expect me to believe you have access to classified info. Please, I am just pointing out how much of a joke you Koran is by showing you it doesn't know the difference between Maryam and Miriam.

ilynem:
You are talking of classified information and yet you have possession to this info? Bravo!
And brother, you just shot yourself on the foot! Let me laugh a bit. If really that hard copy Koran you have said Aaron was another pious man in the time of Mary, then you should throw that Koran in the trash. First and for most, There is no record of Mary having a brother called Aaron. Secondly I will take you to you Koran. Koran 66:12 called Mary the daughter of Imran. According to my Bible, Moses and Aaron had a sister called Miriam. And you know the name of their father? Amran!
Now, Mary is Islam is maryam! Do you see where this confusion is coming from? Your Allah confused Maryam with Miriam the sister of Moses and Aaron! Mary had no brother called Aaron and her father was not Amran (Imran) but Joachim. I am smatter than Allah cuz I could put all these together and he couldn't. What a pity!

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kingsouthie:
You never realy read it, John 14:16..you may as well read verse 17 for further explanation
they were once as a militia fighting against russian forces and received backings from the US, but it didnt end there, they still get funds from sympathizers as well

ilynem:
I have just realized I am arguing with an ignorant Muslim who doesn't even know the Koran and the history of your religion. Allah spread Islam? This so laughable! So Islam wasn't spread by the sword? Muslims didn't conquer countries and enforce Islam on them? Really? I won't even go far. I will just drop one name and that is Usman Dan fodio.
So oga, about your west sponsoring Isis and other terrorist groups, if you sitting in naija can investigate and come up with solid proof, then why has other agencies with all their intelligence not discovered this? And if they have, why has no one been arrested? And why is it always islamist terrorist groups? Why not another religion? The Jews and Christians live in peace. Christians and Bhudists live in peace. Hinduism and Christians and Bhudists live in peace. But bring Islam into the equation and voila! You have violence and crisis.
Now for a Muslim that doesn't know Koran 19: 27-28 which says: At length she brought (the babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms), They said: "O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou brought! "O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman unchaste!" I wonder if you really are a Muslim. And now you say the hard copy Koran is different from the soft copy? Isn't that the weakest point any Muslim has ever made ever?
And finally, I have every translation of the Bible and they do not differ from each other. They just make things clearer. I have told you about the manuscripts! They are there. We can trace every root word to the original Hebrew word. Theologians like Gerd Ludemann has studied these things. I have read his book. So come up with another argument.
PS: any God that doesn't know that Mary is not the sister of Aaron is not a very smart god. Why should I believe him in anything else?
Oh and please I need those verses that have been replaced. How come we didn't know this all these while? And all your greatest teachers like Zakir Naik who I have been listening to has never spotted this? But you did? Wow! You must be brilliant! Or just listening to crap your imam tells you.

kingsouthie:
The way you go about deceiving yourselves how mohammed was the promised comforter Jesus spoke about though, this promised Comforter is said to remain on earth till the end of the world but mohammed is long dead and burried.
Again so u saying those guys blowing their heads off and killing others are doing it for money or some politics and not fighting a jihad against infidels?

emmygzy:
can you enlighten me about the Islamic conquest. Gathering armies and invading towns and cities forcefully converting them to Islam?

abosaid:
In the HISTORY of the world, who has KILLED maximum INNOCENT
human beings?

1) "Hitler"
Do you know who he was?

He was a Christian, but media will never call Christians terrorists.

2) "Joseph Stalin called as Uncle Joe".

He has killed 20 million human beings including 14.5 million were starved to death.

Was he a Muslim?

3) "Mao Tse Tsung (China)"

He has killed 14 to 20 million human beings.

Was he a Muslim?

4) "Benito Mussolini (Italy)"

He has killed 400 thousand human beings.

Was he a Muslim?

5) "Ashoka" In Kalinga Battle

He has killed 100 thousand human beings.

Was he a Muslim?

6) Embargo put by George Bush in Iraq,

1/2 million children
has been killed in Iraq alone!!! Imagine these people are never called terrorists by the media.

Was he a Muslim?

Today the majority of the non-muslims are afraid by hearing the words "JIHAD".

Jihad is an Arabic word which comes from root Arabic word "JAHADA" which means "TO STRIVE" or "TO STRUGGLE" against evil and for justice. It does not
mean killing innocents.

The difference is we stand against evil, not with evil".

Is ISLAM really the problem?

1. The First World War, 17 million dead
(caused by non-Muslim).

2. The Second World War, 50-55 million dead (caused by non-Muslim).

3. Nagasaki atomic bombs 200,000 dead
(caused by non-Muslim).

4. The War in Vietnam, over 5 million dead (caused by non-Muslim).

5. The War in Bosnia/Kosovo, over 500,000 dead (caused by non-Muslim).

6. The War in Iraq (so far) 12,000,000 deaths
(caused by non-Muslim).

7. Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, Burma (monks!) etc ongoing..(caused by non-Muslim).

8. In Cambodia 1975-1979, almost 3 million deaths (caused by non-Muslim).

"MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS
AND
TERRORISTS ARE NOT MUSLIMS."