Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by lfleak: 7:07am On Aug 29, 2017 |
rhektor: You either disprove a statement or accept it, stop beating about the bush Why should he bother disproving ignorance? Stop showing being gullible Jesus won't save you.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by lfleak: 7:06am On Aug 29, 2017 |
plainbibletruth: Choose FACTS not FEELINGS. Don’t just go by your feelings, see the Islamic facts: On Mohamed’s Marriage to a 6-year Old SAHIH AL-BUKHARI Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234) Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236)
IBN HISHAM He married ‘A’isha in Mecca when she was a child of seven and lived with her in Medina when she was nine or ten. She was the only virgin that he married. Her father, Abu Bakr, married her to him and the apostle gave her four hundred dirhams. (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasulullah (The Life of Muhammad), translated by Alfred Guillaume [Oxford University Press, Karachi, Thirteenth Impression 1998], p. 792)
Sahih Muslim, Sunan Abu Dawud, Al-Tabari, Ibn Kathir and so many other early Islamic writers also confirm this same FACT of Mohamed’s (who was in his fifties) marriage to a six-year old Aisha.
On Raiding of Caravans Islamic sources CLEARLY show that it was Mohamed who first attacked and antagonized the Meccans. In “The Life of Muhammad” referred to above, written by A. Guillaume, a translation of Ibn Ishaq’s history of Mohamed, Ibn Ishaq records that Mohamed, after settling down in Medina, either led or sent his followers out on raids with the purpose of enriching both himself and his followers from the loot that they gained from these expeditions. “When the Quraysh saw that the apostle had a party and companions not of their tribe and outside their territory, and that his companions had migrated to join them, and knew that they had settled in a new home and had gained protectors, they feared that the apostle might join them, SINCE THEY KNEW THAT HE HAD DECIDED TO FIGHT THEM. So they assembled in their council chamber, the house of Qusayy b. Kilab where all their important business was conducted, to take counsel what they should do in regard to the apostle, FOR THEY WERE NOW IN FEAR OF HIM. (Guillaume, p. 221; bolded and capital emphasised) Then the apostle prepared for war in pursuance of God’s command to fight his enemies and to fight those polytheists who were near at hand whom God commanded him to fight. This was thirteen years after his call. (Ibid., p. 280) “Their Muslim brethren reproached them for what they had done, and the Quraysh said, ‘Muhammad and his companions have violated the sacred month, shed blood therein, taken booty, and captured men… but God turned this against them, not for them, and when there was much talk about it, God sent down to his apostle: ‘They will ask you about the sacred month, and war in it. Say, war therein is a serious matter, but keeping people from the way of God and disbelieving in Him and in the sacred mosque and driving out His people there from is more serious with God.’ i.e. If you have killed in the sacred month, they have kept you back from the way of God with their unbelief in Him, and from the sacred mosque, and have driven you from it when you were its people. This is a more serious matter with God than the killing of them whom you have slain. ‘And seduction is worse than killing.’ i.e. They used to seduce the Muslim in his religion until they made him return to unbelief after believing, and that is worse with God than killing. ‘And if they will not cease to fight you until they turn you back from your religion if they can.’ i.e. They are doing more heinous acts than that contumaciously. (Guillaume, pp. 287-288)
The same book records numerous RAIDS which Mohamed and his followers engaged in – Pages 360 to 677 – including that on Khaybar that eventually led to his being poisoned by a Jewish lady and his eventual death from the poison. So we see Mohamed Ordering raids during one of the sacred pilgrimage months, when, according to established custom, hostilities were to be suspended. A situation that was so disturbing to many, including the pagans who continued to respect existing traditions. Suddenly, and CONVENIENTLY, a divine revelation came, approving warfare against unbelievers and stating that all Moslems who spread Islam through force of arms are deserving of special merit.
Conclusion Mohamed’s moral life leaves much to be desired as can be seen from his life history. The issue with 6-year old Aisha is only a tip of the iceberg regarding Mohamed’s sexual lifestyle.
Any claim that Mohamed did not initiate raids is a blatant lie and a wicked distortion of the truth. Mohamed used these raids to enrich himself, increase his control over his followers and expand his quest for first, the domination of Arabia and thereafter as far as he could go.
Anyone who desires the truth MUST be willing to have an open mind to look at FACTS objectively. I ask you to do so with the facts presented on this matter rather than quickly push aside all that have been presented.
If you honestly search for the TRUTH you will find HIM because he himself said "I am the way, and the TRUTH, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through me" John 14: 6 Cognitive dissonance.. I will never waste my time trying to educate you.. Good luck with your delusion. |
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Afonjastinks1:
Is she related to Buhari ?? no, now crawl back to your cave.. |
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aolawale025: Why isn't this rice sold all the time? are you in Lagos? If yes its sold everyday at a specific center.. |
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No 7 is the main point.. |
Nairaland General › Re: Corper Praises God After Surviving Fatal Road Accident That Killed Others by lfleak: 8:12am On Aug 22, 2017 |
kjhova: iphone is obviously an intelligent design and the fact that it was made by Apple Inc is beyond doubt. It requires no faith and no believing from me to recognise the intellectual propriety behind the iphone. I don't need weekly sermons from prophets, priests and imams neither do I need revelations of mysteries to understand the principles behind the CDMA and/or GSM technologies that the device runs on. I also do not have to wait for the end of days for the mighty Apple CEO or President to "shew us all things".
Yes, you are right. I cannot countenance the existence of god/gods, never mind believing in one. This is not obstinacy on my part but rather a logical outcome of profoundly thorough and lengthy contemplation and observation of the natural world. That I should trade what my senses and my intellect can figure out for blind faith and believe in unseen and unheard from spirit beings is at best folly and in the worst description, stupidity.
This, my friend, is my submission. ever tried seeking God? Or you just concluded they can never be one? |
Nairaland General › Re: Corper Praises God After Surviving Fatal Road Accident That Killed Others by lfleak: 12:08am On Aug 22, 2017 |
kjhova: Dear friend,
You have chosen a very interesting way to narrate your religious views and your life philosophy. I appreciate that.
However, like you hinted in your post, many other religious folks will articulate their own religions in such way too to push on the conviction that theirs is the pure truth. I mean, I have met graceful Christians, Hindis and traditionalists who will swear down on the infallibility of their creed despite that their are critical and fundamental differences between and within all this religions.
So, is Allah the true god? As you are quick to say yes, the others are faster to say no?
Is Jesus the son of god? My Christian guy believes so while you and Vijay can easily see how incorrect this is.
Vijay has experienced the seven incarnations of Diwal despite that you muslim and christian friends of mine can only feel sorry for his ignorance.
Baba Arakangudu is highly convinced about the divinity of Ifa and its accessibility through the opele and the orishas despite that you all see him as an animist.
My point, my good friend is that every monotheist is only one god/religion away from being an atheist like me.
You can see the fallacy in all other religions except yours. I can see the fallacy in all religions including yours!
Any big difference between you and I? Not much, really. This is my thesis, that all gods are created in the minds of man when humanity was in its infancy. As we enter into a nanotechnological age and the era of interplanetary voyages, we will begin to experience the dawn of a post-religious world as atheism is the logical future of man. h implies you don't want to even think of the existence of God not to talk of believing in him... You sound like even if there is, you will never believe because that is what atheism entails.. In your mind, iPhone is an intelligent design and your thumb is a coincidence. ? |
Nairaland General › Re: Corper Praises God After Surviving Fatal Road Accident That Killed Others by lfleak: 12:31pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
kjhova: Dude, if you have the time to spare, put forth your opinion here and let's digest and respond appropriately.
NL is a proper forum and not a messaging app like BBM or Whatsapp with 140 character restrictions. I cannot keep going back and forth with you on one-liners like two little lovers. I hereby end the conversation on this note until you articulate yourself properly. OK you don't seem to get my point.. Now let face your signature... You said if you were god you wouldn't have let things be this bad.. First thank God you are not god or even a governor.. God has created many things, things we know and things we are yet to know and things we will never know... The full meaning of the word Islam is "the peace attained by submitting to the will of Allah" every creature of Allah is submitting to the will of Allah.. A tree is submitting to the will of Allah, a mountain does same, the sun, moon, stars, asteroids, stones, water, fire, animals, plants and every thing created are all submitting to the will of Allah.. which is Islam.. Islam is not just a religion, its a culture, norm.. Even a child born today is a Muslim because he/she submits to the will of Allah.. Not until the child reach the stage of reasoning, he or she is a Muslim..but the influence of parents, family, friends, society makes him or her change religion... Now the main point is why everything is in chaos... Evey creature, created by God have no free will except Humans ... We are the only creature given freewill...giving a free will, we were also given very complex tools like the brain, and other organs.. Every one can do what dey will. .. Just like throwing you into a factory, and tell you to bring out a tecno phone out, you just enter and see random tools, without guidance you will never bring out a complete tecno phone, the guidance we need is the Quran.. You can argue that other religions will claim something, but we were given brains to distinguish Right from Wrong! Sadly people judge Islam from Muslims ...I am a Muslim but you can never judge Islam via me. ..because I also have my shortcomings... |
Nairaland General › Re: Corper Praises God After Surviving Fatal Road Accident That Killed Others by lfleak: 8:46am On Aug 21, 2017 |
kjhova: No you are not...and i doubt that you understand that. you are not a creature, then you are what? |
Nairaland General › Re: Corper Praises God After Surviving Fatal Road Accident That Killed Others by lfleak: 7:40am On Aug 21, 2017 |
kjhova: Atheism is not a creed and thus holds on to nothing. The basic tenet is that the natural world is understandable and explainable and is all that is and that the idea of a realm of spirits, devils and gods do not exist except in the figment of the simple mind of man. you are a creature.. Y or N |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Moslems Always Use The Phrase "Peace Be Upon Him "To Mohammed by lfleak: 7:33am On Aug 21, 2017 |
Amberon11: Mohammed Shekau Nnamdi Kanu Osama bin laden
You people are always too quick to scream "hate", its appalling. Mohammed is in hell and if you read your Quran you would know. OK I hope you are happy now .? |
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Seun dash me car.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Moslems Always Use The Phrase "Peace Be Upon Him "To Mohammed by lfleak: 10:06pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
butterflylion: Not hating o. Just yarning 
Afterall my very yarn is contained in the Quran so if the Quran also affirms what I am yarning about then the Quran must hate MuhamMAD as well.  are you happy now? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Man Complains About Muslims - See What Happened To Him! by lfleak: 10:06pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Moslems Always Use The Phrase "Peace Be Upon Him "To Mohammed by lfleak: 9:59pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
Amberon11: Cuz they know he is currently being tormented in hell and needs all the peace he can get. mention for people HATE has made succeessful |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Moslems Always Use The Phrase "Peace Be Upon Him "To Mohammed by lfleak: 9:56pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
butterflylion: Jesus Healed MAD people and cast out demons from MAD people but MuhamMAD became mad after Jesus was no more on earth in the flesh and all Muslim's know MuhamMAD is indeed MAD which is why any time they mention his name they always follow it with PBUH which means peace be unto him. His MADness indeed needs peace.
MuhamMAD was a thief, a paedophile, a home breaker, a deceiver, a murderer, an approver of homosexuality, etc and After MuhamMAD died he is now in hell his body got turned into worms and manure and his followers knowing he is being roasted and toasted and barbecued in hell they need to constantly say peace be upon him in a vain attempt to donate peace to him which everyone with half a brain should know it's stupid and futile especially now that he is dead and gone. calm calm..the hate won't give you a good night sleep.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Moslems Always Use The Phrase "Peace Be Upon Him "To Mohammed by lfleak: 9:55pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
We use his majesty for kings, his excellency for leaders... |
Nairaland General › Re: Corper Praises God After Surviving Fatal Road Accident That Killed Others by lfleak: 9:43pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
kjhova: I will know to agree or disagree if I understood your unclear post. I mean.. You athiest simply hold to a point of why multiple gods? |
Nairaland General › Re: Corper Praises God After Surviving Fatal Road Accident That Killed Others by lfleak: 6:51pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
kjhova: Yep, it isn't harmful to thank god as it isn't harmful to thank any of the gods that man ever created.
Your second paragraph simply chuckles me. it simply illogical to exist more than one God.. Agreed?? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Sierra Leone Holds Mass Burial For Hundreds Who Died In Mudslide by lfleak: 4:21pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
Inna lilahi was ina illaehi raajihun From him we come, to him we return. Lesson for us all... Your time is counting down.. Do more than enough good deeds and always appreciate God for whatever you have.. Salam..  |
Nairaland General › Re: Corper Praises God After Surviving Fatal Road Accident That Killed Others by lfleak: 4:00pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
kjhova: If the dead die because they are destined to die at that point and the survivor lives cuz he is not destined to die at this time, There is still no point to thanking god cuz when his time comes, no amount of prayers to big daddy will save him.
Death is a very randonm process that occurs billions of times daily across species from the microbial organisms to large mammals like humans and elephants. Just as this misguided and ignorant corper cheated death, many impallas and seals did too by narrowly escaping lions and tiger sharks about the same time. Was it god or luck for the impalla?
Live life and make the most of your time here and do not let baseless religious assumptions limit you. Yea.. there was no reason to thank God you're right, but it is also not harmful to do so.. Baseless religious assumptions limits me..? It might limit those who have no purpose in life though.. |
Nairaland General › Re: Corper Praises God After Surviving Fatal Road Accident That Killed Others by lfleak: 1:31pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
cyborg123: We read you loud and clear... a million times Kilode?  |
Politics › Re: One Killed At Inauguration Of Bayelsa APC Acting Chairman by lfleak: 1:09pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
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Politics › Re: See How Governor And Dignitaries Wept As Suntai's Corpse Arrived Taraba. by lfleak: 1:01pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
Crocodile tears.. How did I know? My friend haruna told me..
I give haruna #500 daily to tell me the truth.. |
Nairaland General › Re: Corper Praises God After Surviving Fatal Road Accident That Killed Others by lfleak: 12:59pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
Liveair: Shame...if that's the best your God can do.
If you only knew how vast the universe is and how totally random things work, you'd know how clueless your God is. Actually, he is right to thank God, but ranting that God didn't save the others as a weakness is a sign of cognitive dissonance.... Those who died were already destined to die at that moment even if they do not enter the vehicle.. You and I have a predestinated date and time of death that no one can change.. Definitely his time is not yet... Though am talking from an Islamic point of view.. |
Nairaland General › Re: Corper Praises God After Surviving Fatal Road Accident That Killed Others by lfleak: 12:59pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
Kobicove: "This God is too much" my ass!
If indeed he is too much why did he allow others to die in the accident?  Actually, he is right to thank God, but ranting that God didn't save the others as a weakness is a sign of cognitive dissonance.... Those who died were already destined to die at that moment even if they do not enter the vehicle.. You and I have a predestinated date and time of death that no one can change.. Definitely his time is not yet... Though am talking from an Islamic point of view.. U see? |
Nairaland General › Re: Corper Praises God After Surviving Fatal Road Accident That Killed Others by lfleak: 12:57pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
dakeskese: ... What makes the guy think God saved him and allowed other Christians in the car to die?
What makes him think that God is interested in him and nt interested in others?
What makes him think God would be glad to see other people's family thrown into mourning while his own participate in the ''testimony time' on Sunday?
What makes him think if God wanted to save him he wouldn't have allowed the accident to happen?
What has happened is nothing but destiny. Life is simply all about fate.
Before you quote me, I am a Christian. A 'rational' christian. Actually, he is right to thank God, but ranting that God didn't save the others as a weakness is a sign of cognitive dissonance.... Those who died were already destined to die at that moment even if they do not enter the vehicle.. You and I have a predestinated date and time of death that no one can change.. Definitely his time is not yet... Though am talking from an Islamic point of view.. |
Nairaland General › Re: Corper Praises God After Surviving Fatal Road Accident That Killed Others by lfleak: 12:57pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
Coldfeets: This is just one of the major problems I have with all these 'religious' people.
They normally think they are so special. Actually, he is right to thank God, but ranting that God didn't save the others as a weakness is a sign of cognitive dissonance.... Those who died were already destined to die at that moment even if they do not enter the vehicle.. You and I have a predestinated date and time of death that no one can change.. Definitely his time is not yet... Though am talking from an Islamic point of view.. |
Nairaland General › Re: Corper Praises God After Surviving Fatal Road Accident That Killed Others by lfleak: 12:57pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
tgmservice: So the ones that died are the unlucky ones not covered by God's Grace  Actually, he is right to thank God, but ranting that God didn't save the others as a weakness is a sign of cognitive dissonance.... Those who died were already destined to die at that moment even if they do not enter the vehicle.. You and I have a predestinated date and time of death that no one can change.. Definitely his time is not yet... Though am talking from an Islamic point of view.. |
TV/Movies › Re: BBC Staff Caught Watching A Sex Scene During Live News Broadcast - See Video by lfleak: 1:01pm On Aug 09, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: that is how the human brain operates, we have peripheral vision, that's why you can see someone walking by at the corner of your eye without really turning to look at them, the viewers of these news see the monitors behind the newscaster all the time with the aid of peripheral vision and all that came from a monkey trying to survive? |