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GeorgeTheCoder:2. There was no evidence of food poisoning Here is another logic 1. Mr A said to Mr B, ”Keep Barking" 2. Mr B barked to death from that evening till the next Morning 3. Mr A caused Mr B's death. Since (1) and (2) are true then it follows logically that (3) is true. |
emmalexabl:The same way millions of biafrans, without arms, confronted the federal army and lost up to 3 souls. They were foolish people. |
Herdsmen:Civil wars also happens and millions die. Life goes on |
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Odingo1:Oyo states IGR surpasses Anambra's Oyo's GDP surpasses Anambra's Oyo's ICT penetration surpasses Anambra's Oyo's number of SME'S surpasses Anambra's Never compare Oyo with Anambra. It's like comparing iPhone to Land line. Dyg |
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ofai:All blessings in the Bible have physical manifestation. There is no such thing as a blessing that is unquantifiable. 1. God blessed Abraham: he had cattles and silver and gold and about 300 Henchmen under his care alone 2. God blessed Isaac and he had physical blessings (Gen 26:12- 16). To the point that the Philistines envied him 3. God blessed Solomon, we all know the story 4. God blessed that woman who had a few flour left for her family and she became an international merchant in the flour industry (exaggeration) 5. God blessed the woman who couldn't pay her husband's debt. She became the Oil Magnate of her time 2 Kings 4:1-7 6. God blessed Job before the devil struck, we can quantify what he had Job 1:1-10 7. God blesses Job after the devil struck, we can quantify what he now has. We saw that he had double Job 42:12-14 8. God blessed David, we know his story 9. What of Jabez Heck even Malachi 3 tells us the quantity of the blessings : "... you won't have enough room to contain them". Room is physical, you don't need rooms for spiritual blessings. I could go on and on. There is always a physical manifestation of that blessing. God's blessing is not MMM that will freeze up in one virtual world in accessible to the physical. |
ofai:2. I agree absolutely with you on points 2 and 3 So since we have established that not paying tithe is not a sin then we can conclude that 1. There is no punishment or curse for not paying tithe 2. God can bless you even if you don't pay tithe. After all you didn't transgress 3. Tithing should be freewill and based on conviction not MANDATORY as we have today. If you doubt that tithing is mandatory today then let's discuss existing church practices and sermons with video and pics evidences. |
ofai:1. I disagree. Tithing doesn't guarantee God's blessings. Here are my points Many advocates of tithing are of the belief that tithing is causal to blessing. This is untrue as we will see from the scriptures. They also use Abraham as their principal example of tithing. But let's analyse the scenario of Abraham. 1. Abram (as he was called then) received God's promise to be a great nation and be blessed BEFORE he gave tithes (Gen 12:1) 2. He received the promised land BEFORE he gave any tithe (Gen 12:7) 3. God defended Abram's wife before Pharaoh (Gen 12:17) BEFORE he gave any tithe 4. Abram was very rich in cattle, silver and gold BEFORE he gave any tithe (Gen 13:1) 5. God reaffirmed his promise to give the "promised" land to Abram BEFORE he gave tithes (Gen 13: 14-17) 6. After the aforementioned events, Abram gave tithes (Gen 14:20). The question however is: On what did Abram give tithe? He gave tithe on the spoils of war (Gen 14:16). Nowhere was it mentioned that Abram gave tithe on his personal belongings. He gave tithe only on the spoils of war. This meant that if he hadn't gone to war, he probably wouldn't have given any tithe at all (this is inferential). 7. God reappeared to Abram to assure him once again of his promises (Gen 15:1-10). This appearance wasn't as a result of giving tithes in any way. 8. God made a covenant with Abram about the promises (Gen 15:18). Again, this isn't as a consequence of giving tithes. 9. God reassurred Abram of his covenant and changed his name to Abraham (Gen 17:1- . Furthermore he stated explicitly the part of the covenant which Abram must fulfil: circumcision not giving tithes10. God changed Sarai's name to Sarah and promised a son through her (Gen 17:15). Again, this isn't as a consequence of giving tithes. 11. God revealed his intimacy with and confidence in Abraham that he (Abraham) would teach his children the way of the Lord to do JUSTICE and JUDGEMENT (not giving tithes) Gen 18:19. 12. We are made to know that Abraham received all these things through FAITH IN GOD (Heb 11:8-19) not through giving tithes We could also look at the lives of Isaac was blessed with no tithe record! You can check the list of billionaires in the world and you'll see that a large portion are not even Christians let alone pay tithe. Then check the list of the top 10 economies of the world, you'll see countries that have more atheist, fewer Christians than Nigeria, fewer churches than Nigeria hence fewer tithes dominate the list. Nigeria with all our tithes is no where to be found. This is enough proof of the fact that tithes is not a guarantee to Gods blessing Modified: if you have any proof of anyone or nation who was immensely blessed as a direct consequence of giving tithes, please share with evidences. |
ofai:In Malachi, God cursed them for not remitting the full tithe. So it was a curse under the law of tithing. Jesus has redeemed us from the curse Let me pose these questions to you: 1. Does giving tithes guarantee God's blessings? 2. Does giving tithe assures one of salvation? 3. Is not giving tithe a sin? |
hardasan:Jesus did not condemn the Pharisees for collecting tithes because they (the Pharisees) are under the law and are Levites hence are mandated to collect tithe (according to the law) Our pastors in Nigeria are not Levites, this is why Jesus himself didn't collect tithe even though he is 'our high priest'. H is not a Levite he is from Judah You must understand that Judaism is different from Christianity. The laws of the old testament apply to Jews, the laws of Christians are written in their hearts. Finally one doesn't get cursed for not paying tithe. That curse in Malachi is 'under the law'. Jesus has redeemed us from the curse of the law. |
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. Furthermore he stated explicitly the part of the covenant which Abram must fulfil: circumcision not giving tithes