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300 hao hao

jln115:
Its not superior mate.

Its faster,has more hard points and the gripen would be gone before it even detects it

General characteristics

Crew: 1 (basic), 2 (trainer variant)
Length: 15.5 m (50 ft 10 in)
Wingspan: 9.7 m (31 ft 10 in)
Height: 4.78 m (15.7 ft)
Wing area: 39 m² (419.8 ft²)
Empty weight: 8,000–9,730 kg (17,637–21,451 lb)
Loaded weight: 18,500 kg (40,785 lb )
Useful load: 5,500 kg (9,920 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 19,277 kg (42,500 lb)
Powerplant: 1× Saturn-Lyulka AL-31FN or Woshan WS-10A "Taihang" turbofan
Dry thrust (Estimation): 79.43 kN / 89.17 kN (17,860 lbf / 20,050 lbf)
Thrust with afterburner (Estimation): 122.5 kN/ 129.4 kN (27,557 lbf / 29,101 lbf)

Performance (Estimation):

Maximum speed: Mach 2.2 at altitude, Mach 1.2 at sea level
g-limits: +9/-3 g (+88/-29 m/s², +290/-97 ft/s²)
Thrust/Weight (Air-to-Air Configuration): 0.98
Maximum range (without refueling): 3,400 km (2,113 miles)
Service ceiling: 20,000 m (65,600 ft)
Wing loading: 335 kg/m² (64 lb/ft²)

Combat radius (Estimation):

On hi-lo-hi mission: 2,540 km (1,370 nautical miles) with 4,000lb/1,814kg bombload and two air-to-air missiles
On lo-lo-lo mission: 1,310 km (710 nautical miles with 4,000lb/1,814kg bombload and two air-to-air missiles

Armament:

Hardpoints:
11 in total (6× under-wing, 5× under-fuselage) with a capacity of 4,500 kg (9,900 lb) external fuel and ordnance

Guns:
1× 23mm twin-barrel cannon

Rockets:
90mm unguided rocket pods

Missiles:
Air-to-air missiles: PL-8, PL-9, PL-11, PL-12
Air-to-surface missiles: PJ-9, YJ-9K

Bombs: laser-guided bombs (LT-2), glide bombs (LS-6) and unguided bombs

Others:
Up to 3 external fuel drop-tanks (1× under-fuselage, 2× under-wing) for extended range and loitering time

Avionics/mission pods:

BM/KG300G self-protection jamming pod
KZ900 electronic reconnaissance pod
Blue Sky navigation/attack pod
FILAT (Forward-looking Infra-red Laser Attack Targeting) pod

You can get the arms of your choice from china but eu will always use delaying tactitcs in supplting of arms

jln115:
Actually the Gripen is equipped with the ps-5/a mk 4 radar,which is able to identify an object with a 0.1m2 rcs at 120km, you seem like a decently educated guy, im sure you could work out at what range the Gripen can identify a j10 with a rcs of+- 4m2.

And also im guessing the j10 is equipped with the klj-3 radar (I might be wrong) and thus can detect a 3m2 object at 150km which is nice but the gripen has an rcs of about 0.1m2.

Even the superior j10 costs less 30-35 million $ but its maintenance cost is higher because its not a light attack aircraft but its comparable to f16 c/d

If ya got the genuine parts they work in any condition till ya drop dead and i got em baby ha cha cha

jln115:
Uhm.better bvr? How?

It can detect and destroy at 150 km while jas has a range of 130 km

jln115:
Thanks but the Gripen still has:
Better RCS
Better range
Better HMI
Better HMD
Better radar
Lower wing loading(thus better manoeuvrability)
Better AoA(thus better manoeuvrability)
Lower maintenance costs
Lower tame off and landing distance.

But I must say the 11 hard points on the j10 is impressive, BUT its low payload in relation to its size is definitely a negative.

Its faster,has better bvr the jas is a sitting duck
correction a pricey sitting duck

litesea:
Serena Williams
https://www.totalsportsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Serena-Williams.jpg
Maria Sharapova
https://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02597/maria-sharapova_2597664b.jpg
Sania Mirza
https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/multimedia/dynamic/01409/Sania_Mirza_jpg_1409086f.jpg
Dwayne Johson
https://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/400x400x032709_rock_400x400.jpg.pagespeed.ic_.6sBquagHXT.jpg

I dont know about you but i sure think that Serena can work as stunt double of Dwayne

sinaj:
she is not too muscular compared to other female sports star

Serena Williams
https://www.totalsportsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Serena-Williams.jpg
Maria Sharapova
https://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02597/maria-sharapova_2597664b.jpg
Sania Mirza
https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/multimedia/dynamic/01409/Sania_Mirza_jpg_1409086f.jpg
Dwayne Johson
https://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/400x400x032709_rock_400x400.jpg.pagespeed.ic_.6sBquagHXT.jpg

jln115:
And know your providing wikipedia as your source..your joking right?

Here ya go
http://www.military-today.com/aircraft/j10.htm
http://www.military-today.com/aircraft/jas_39_gripen.htm

sinaj:
I luv Serena Williams

she xo pwity

dunno ow she stay in shape despite b...

She is too muscular she could play as Dwayne Johnson,s double

jln115:
Are you seriously providing a forum as your source?

Alright check this out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-10
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen

pinky21:
its obvious. Kpele

SOme commit suicide over it its not as easy peasy as people put it

patches689:
Who cares about technology transfer when it is of such poor quality? Basic early 90's F16 technology!

There was no SAAF defeat in the airwar

Of such poor quality?
Seriously a jet capable of air to air refueling,bvr,lgm,cruise missile is poor quality?

patches689:
Who cares about technology transfer when it is of such poor quality? Basic early 90's F16 technology!

There was no SAAF defeat in the airwar

Early 90,s f16 was poor quality um f16 a/b still serve with most airforces

patches689:
1. Unconfirmed deal
2. There are no buyers
3. No "rich" nations have made any orders

Myanmaar disagrees

In other news

Major arms exporter Sweden to put human rights before weapon sales
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/06/26/uk-sweden-arms-idUKKBN0P61MB20150626

AugustineAgain:
Gripen buyers got ZERO technology transfer for a $68 million jet.

JF-17 buyers are offered technology transfer for a $25 million jet.

The Gripen exposes buyers to sanctions, like NATO did to South African Mirage jets during war with Cuba, leading to defeat of SAAF in the air
.

Plus you have to wait for EU to allow sale of missiles that will be used by gripen

jln115:
Oh? I should just trust you?

But the facts are:
The Gripen has a better HMI
Better HMD
better range
Lower stall speed
Lower wing loading, thus better manoeuvrability.
Better radar
Lower maintenance costs.
Shorter take off and landing distances
Better AoA.
Ect
Ect

J10 can detect and destroy the jas before it even detects it
http://www.saairforce.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1940

AugustineAgain:
Nigeria is listed as potential buyer of this stealth jet too.

I guess if NAF drops the Su-30 Flanker off the list of potentials, they might just go fully the PAF way.

JF-17 as 4th gen + J-20 stealth as 5th gen

24 units of the JF-17 and 6 units of the J-20 will give Nigeria the status of best air force in Africa
.

Thats the fc 31 not j20 china offered the j20 only to Pakistan and the fc31 isnt going to be ready before 2020 and china will first export them to Pakistan so Nigeria will have to wait for atleast 2013-24 for this

Henry120:
A 10% difference. Shame!

Plus 48million additional dollars

jln115:
I'm not under estimating it, but it is what it is, and what it is not, is as good as the Gripen.

Trust me a j10 can run over gripen any time of the week and after the number of crashes i think jf17 is a better option plus EU can sanction Nigeria and transfer of technology will definitely not be offered in case of gripen

AugustineAgain:
They are getting domestic production license, technology transfer makes it worth it.

The countries that are laughing at JF-17 Thunder have NEVER manufactured one 4th generation air superiority jet fighter in their history, now Myanmar is ahead of them while they laugh
.

The jf17 will replace mig 21/j7 for the entire world

pinky21:
wat a way . Dis 1 u re supporting him like dis, it seems u ve gone thru a very bad hrtbreak.

I survived and got over it.Its hard to let go but you have to

jln115:
Uhm? Why would we buy a Chinese copy of the euro fighter, If the Gripen is just as good/ even better in some aspects than the original?

Its comparable to F16 c/d and has a significant Israeli input don't underestimate the power of Chinese aircraft

cahrym:
Sophie dee queen of squirt.

She is fat hence ugly next

pinky21:
not an excuse

Lets just say its his way of healing his broken heart

fairygeh:
Wait o,he does f*** her? I can see something like c *** on her shoulder in one of the pics,Does the doll have a pu ssy? Does he enjoy sex with her,wait sef,does the dull moan while he fu *** her
Now I am getting too naughty right

It does have all the holes but its an inanimate object,its just an expensive flesh light

axortedbabe:
no justification for this weird action, getting married to a doll? For real?..hmm

Hey i almost killed myself so i sort of understand him, its healing mechanism

axortedbabe:
His head heads examination asap..

Ever got betrayed by someone you love more than yourself?
If the answer is no than you dont understand his broken heart

Nothing that i dont know
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-11-19/news/56265870_1_open-defecation-world-toilet-day-united-nations