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Pets / Europeans Of Asiatic (samoyedic) Origin And Native Asian Russians by LLBM: 11:04pm On May 17, 2012
In Europe are a lot of people who are of Asiatic (Samoyedic) decent, but little is said about them outside their native countries.

The term Samoyedic peoples (also Samodeic peoples) [1] is used to describe peoples speaking Samoyedic languages, which are part of the Uralic family. They are a linguistic grouping, not an ethnic or cultural one. The name derives from the obsolete term Samoyed used in Russia for some indigenous peoples of Siberia.[2][3] The term "Samoyed" was originally a Russian word, a corrupted form of the ethnonym "Saamod". "Samoyed" in Russian literally means "Self-Eating", but this is not the original meaning and is thus considered pejorative.


Peoples

Samoyedic peoples include:
Northern Samoyedic peoples
Nenets
Enets
Nganasan
Southern Samoyedic peoples
Selkup
Kamasins or Kamas (now extinct as a distinct ethnic group)
Mator or Motor (now extinct as a distinct ethnic group)
Koibal (now extinct as a distinct ethnic group)
[edit]Location

The largest of these peoples are Nenets numbering 34,000. They live in three autonomous districts of Russia: Nenetsia, Yamalia (also known as Yamalo-Nenetsia), and Taymyria (formerly known as Dolgano-Nenetsia).

The Nenets (Nenets: ненэцяˮ, Russian: ненцы), also known as Samoyeds, are an indigenous people in northern arctic Russia. According to the latest census in 2002, there are 41,302 Nenets in the Russian Federation, most of them living in the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug and Nenets Autonomous Okrug. They speak either the Tundra or Forest varieties of Nenets.

There are two distinct groups based on their economy: the Tundra Nenets (living far to the north) and the Khandeyar or Forest Nenets. The third group Kominized Nenets (Yaran people) has emerged as a result of intermarriages between Nenets and the Izhma tribe of the Komi peoples.
The Samoyedic languages form a branch of the Uralic language family. They moved (from farther south in Siberia) to the northernmost part of what later became Russia before the 12th century.


Here are some pictures.

Russia: Nenets and Yakutia (Yakutz) people

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217922442/" title="303336_329417310460271_157744874294183_778413_507811173_n by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7221/7217922442_7db85ef13a.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="303336_329417310460271_157744874294183_778413_507811173_n"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217922160/" title="265537_157747200960617_157744874294183_337424_2047962_o by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8166/7217922160_485da3b68d.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="265537_157747200960617_157744874294183_337424_2047962_o"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217920876/" title="579387_329417427126926_157744874294183_778418_521340854_n by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5276/7217920876_b5788fd3f4.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="579387_329417427126926_157744874294183_778418_521340854_n"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217923182/" title="579063_329417390460263_157744874294183_778417_715021396_n by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7086/7217923182_eda6a570a3.jpg" width="472" height="500" alt="579063_329417390460263_157744874294183_778417_715021396_n"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217923056/" title="576423_329417360460266_157744874294183_778415_2119824035_n by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7102/7217923056_168d813152.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="576423_329417360460266_157744874294183_778415_2119824035_n"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217922982/" title="544820_329417287126940_157744874294183_778412_446521699_n by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8159/7217922982_776333f3bb.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="544820_329417287126940_157744874294183_778412_446521699_n"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217922788/" title="541359_329417333793602_1775857326_n by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8014/7217922788_153a26c2f1.jpg" width="323" height="500" alt="541359_329417333793602_1775857326_n"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217922890/" title="535146_329417380460264_157744874294183_778416_22827022_n by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5159/7217922890_3761b900b2.jpg" width="344" height="500" alt="535146_329417380460264_157744874294183_778416_22827022_n"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217922668/" title="525618_329417450460257_157744874294183_778419_2078088654_n by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7219/7217922668_49789b8416.jpg" width="500" height="329" alt="525618_329417450460257_157744874294183_778419_2078088654_n"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217922566/" title="306147_329417220460280_157744874294183_778410_959695366_n by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8018/7217922566_059065332c.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="306147_329417220460280_157744874294183_778410_959695366_n"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217920958/" title="273033_172903139445023_157744874294183_382760_6081364_o by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7087/7217920958_196899d621.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="273033_172903139445023_157744874294183_382760_6081364_o"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217922334/" title="267115_157747250960612_157744874294183_337428_2684945_o by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7081/7217922334_a0aa273d2a.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="267115_157747250960612_157744874294183_337428_2684945_o"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217922334/" title="267115_157747250960612_157744874294183_337428_2684945_o by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7081/7217922334_a0aa273d2a.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="267115_157747250960612_157744874294183_337428_2684945_o"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217922254/" title="266404_157747340960603_157744874294183_337435_644898_o by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7238/7217922254_142e948960.jpg" width="500" height="434" alt="266404_157747340960603_157744874294183_337435_644898_o"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217922024/" title="264411_157747307627273_157744874294183_337432_592656_n by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7228/7217922024_e3e027b653.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="264411_157747307627273_157744874294183_337432_592656_n"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217921850/" title="262741_157747357627268_157744874294183_337436_3067618_n by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7216/7217921850_4ec65c262b.jpg" width="500" height="362" alt="262741_157747357627268_157744874294183_337436_3067618_n"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7217921648/" title="257063_157747234293947_157744874294183_337427_3986761_o by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5331/7217921648_8ccbffb9b6.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="257063_157747234293947_157744874294183_337427_3986761_o"></a>

Greenlander's (Native)

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<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7218026026/" title="national6 by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/7218026026_7ddc244c18.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="national6"></a>

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<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/61310679@N04/7218026802/" title="000j0522wHw by DJone01, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5469/7218026802_55e8927bf4.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="000j0522wHw"></a>

Native Icelandic people with Asiatic features.

Bjork at age 10 - Famous singer in late 80's and 90's

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Native Finnish people Finland. Sami people

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Culture / Re: History Of Niger / Nigeria by LLBM: 11:40am On May 17, 2012
This is an example of the amount of ignorance that people on my page have when shown Nigerean Africans, Malian's, Nigerian's etc. who they consider mixed because visually they are used to seeing what they consider mono-races, hence they think African's look Indian or Caribbean.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=239602486074577&set=a.239601639407995.66993.121328251235335&type=1&theater

Comment by user on page:
reminds me of east indi

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=239602076074618&set=a.239601639407995.66993.121328251235335&type=1&theater

Comment by user on page:
this is africa? it looks so much like india.
Culture / Re: History Of Niger / Nigeria by LLBM: 11:21am On May 17, 2012
emöfine2: Whilst I found your article rather interesting and also agreed with you about the misconception of the notion of “race” why do you then sport the title “Ladies Love Black Men”? Or is that tongue in cheek? undecided

Anyway it’s kind of confusing because you claim you wanna know more about Niger/Nigeria etc then go into a whole dissection of “race” so erm I'm kinda left wondering how does that subject bare weight on what you want to gather from the history of those aforementioned countries you’re interested in?

Niger and Northern Nigeria was not a country prior to the Europeans. But they or at the very least most of that specific region (southern Niger) was under a federation known as the Sokoto Caliphate established by the Fulanis in what is geographically considered as Hausaland. Anyway as one would expect a Nigerienne and Northern Nigerian have much in common – well they are essentially the same people in today different nations regardless of the borders – which isn’t a unique circumstance at all in Africa.
Fortunately there are a few frequent Northern Nigerians if they choose to add or correct certain info.

Thanks for the reply emöfine2, I called the facebook page Ladies Love Black Men, because of how people describe African's, while I don't agree with the description and naming of the word Black, I understand the history of its application towards naming people by using insulting and derogatory European based false notions and definitions of skin colour; noone is really Black or White, however people simply would not understand what the page is about in UK / Europe / USA unless the word Black is used.

I created the page just out of interest one day, and wondered what would happen, and it proved very popular, so is an opportunity to educate people about African people no matter where they come from their origin is Africa, and often Nigeria, Ghana, and Mali.

Hence some education for both Black and White is needed, not to think of themselves as separate people or mixing for the first time, as seen by the real fact of thousands of years of mixing in Africa anyway.

Now needed is education on history, while European schools I was educated in, do not teach anything outside Egypt and slavery and creating false notions of a divide of Sub-Saharan (Often denoted in western pictures as Bantu looking) and North African people (often denoted by the use of overtly Caucasian looking people) who are in truth not related to Arabs, Arabs invaded North Africa.

So the false notion of Saharan people is created, I remember talking to my University lecturer, a lady with a Phd. and I told her about the findings of the Human Genome Project, how race did not exist, and she tried to pass it off as merely being a "theory", not concrete proved fact, which it is and was nearly a decade ago now or more.

That's why such false notions about Africa need to be fought against and people educated.

So the two are coupled together really, for the fact the infantile nature of racism, created from the notion of race, is not taught of the origins outside of UK and the reasons, the reality was this name White and race was applied only to the English, when Henry the 8th wanted to rule Ireland, read about the Tudor conquest of Ireland.

Hence in sarcasm the English were now all deemed White and the Irish and every other European as Blacks, no bearing on Moors or any other African of the time, little contact other than Roman soldiers and politicians of West African and North African decent had mixed with them, so the notion and successful fall of the Irish Kingdom meant they applied it everywhere they conquered.

Thus as people won their freedom back from what would later become the British Empire ending in the 20th century, people formerly labelled as Black, began being called by the continent or country name, only because of the scale of slavery of Black Africans, that the name Black stuck, so Indians don't get called Black, neither do East Asians, etc.

If the name Black was not so derogory in double meaning, every usage being the opposite to White, and of a negative (bad) meaning (case and point made in one common sentence), I do not tend to use the word Black, but at the same time it means nothing, merely something to the people wishing to deride people, when the problem is them, so I merely state it to educate, not fall into the trap of racial idiocy and make for gradual change.

Culture / History Of Niger / Nigeria by LLBM: 5:54pm On May 13, 2012
History of Niger / Nigeria & Educating non-African born African people, about Africa

Can anyone help me with the history of Niger and the split that was made due to colonialism between France and Britain to form Nigeria and Niger.

I have been talking online for over a decade now on various topics and notice still there is a lot of ignorance about Africa and a lot of information on African history is not taught and hard to find, without the usual ramblings of so-called historians who think history happened because they thought it rather than prove it through research and analysis, leading to the rubbish online in American forums about Black and White Egyptians and so-called Arab Egyptians, when the simple thing is to ask the people themselves, I did, and found Egyptians ancestry in Yoruba people through tales of migration, that in fact Yoruba people are in historic terms a later migration into West Africa and intermingles with the people already there, with the actual region they migrated from being in what is now North Sudan / South Egypt (Upper Egypt) and found in fact there was recent Egyptian ancestry in my family too, not sure whether Arab or Berber or Coptic Christian.

But a lot of information and divisions are based on ignorance and the allowance or prejudiced people to dictate what is taught and learnt and even names for ourselves such as Black African (not a name of choice of any African let alone African or Sub-Saharan for so-called Black Africans).

So we have so many African Americans calling themselves Black this n-word that, to take back the sting of an insult, it does not work, so many Caribbean's doing the same and hating Africans, rather than learn their history.

So I need to ask people on here to help me learn more about African history, where people come from and disseminate the information to my readers on my page.

This is an article I wrote, having noticed the preference for so-called Caucasian features in beauty over the world in advertising, yet noticed the oddity that people don't seem to except that Caucasian features actually come from their named Black African's in the first place.

Ladies Love Black Men Article: (The assumption of ugliness based on ethnicity and mixed relationships as unstable relationships).

Many people already through no fault of their own have been defined and labelled as the false pseudo science of 'race', while it is disproven and societies the world over know that there is no such thing as race, (the country of Greece for instance does not by law define separate races, racial statistics are illegal, everyone is Greek, this has not stopped prejudice obviously, but it's a step in the right direction) something we have always known but became apparent through genetic research with the human genome project - Quote: Human Genome Project - DNA studies 'do not' indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. So while proven we still live with the legacy of false notions of separate races, with some people so prejudiced as to thinking they will lose their ethnic identity if they marry someone of (x) defined "race" that is apparently different from their defined (y) defined "race", the irony being all human beings come from the same place and heritage, Africa (now called that) a region in what is now Ethiopia, while the first humans were not dark in skin colour something that was a genetic adaptation to the environment that later came to being in the region and regions humans migrated to, a feature Khoisan people bare to this day, being lighter skinned than most other Africans, human migration eventually left Africa, and adapted to the rest of the now forming continents due to continental drift, ice ages parting the planets tectonic plates and volcanic eruptions, features arose that adapted to the environment they faced, however the traits and features still remain that of an African origin, something denoted in our distant cousin Neanderthal, who also exhibited the same features, adaptation to environment, and contrary to popular belief were also of a veriety of skin colour adaptations like our species Homo Sapian Sapien, skin colour is only a defence against the harmful effects of the sun's UV (ultra violet) ray spectrum, thus were adapted far sooner than our species that survived, there is not much to distinguish Neandethal from modern human beings, some interbreeding occurred, certain features like red hair may be attributed to their legacy, however little survives to this day, the point being that genetic legacy of Africans is shared and all other human beings even with or without Neanderthal genes, is shared, they had the commonality of Homo Erectus, a common ancestor and all of African heritage like all Hominids also of the same genus (same genetic heritage), the spread of humans out of Africa simply led to a genetic mutations based on an existing set of gene mutations, hence you can see many similarities of features between human populations, and many similarities between people even if they are not defined of the same ethnicity by societies today, the irony being of racism and selective dating patterns of prejudiced "racist" people, something seen by the assumption of ugliness based on ethnicity, stupidity based on ethnicity, and lack of providing ability, societal mobility or anything a stable relationship is based on due to an apparent (only to the prejudiced person or people or group) of someone they deem not of their ethnicity, or not wanting certain traits in their children they will have, so sex for some prejudiced people with someone of what they deem another ethnicity or "race" if fine for them but children and a 'real' relationship is not something they take seriously, thus making stereotypes of mixed relationships as being unstable relationships, racism is not about skin colour it is actually about the isolation of a group of people, de-stabilising societies and stifling development and progress of a person or group of people or even nation state(s). Now the irony of facial features let alone notions of supposed intellectual inferiority is that all people the world over are African and the adaptations to the planets environment is that we still share the same ability to adapt to the environments we move too, and adapt quicker if we marry someone of the locality, something that societies have been doing for thousands of years, some with observable prejudiced elements that survive to this day, why in Rome there were citizens of all skin colours, yet all were Romans, African heritage Emperors, before a senate of various skin colours, the same in Egypt, what led these great societies to fall? the false divisions sowed in their midst by people wanting certain ambitions over another person, Roman thinking was to the North are White Barbarians limited in intelligence, to the south are darker people who are too weak from the sun and hair is curly because of it, but we Romans are mixed and strong because we are mixed and don't have the negative sides of either because they knew they came from both, in the lowest wrung's of society A slave was a slave whether he was a Syrian, Thracian, or an African. now the commonality despite the wrongs of the society was they knew that people were mixed, we now know people are genetically adapted and were always mixed anyway by modern definitions of later Western European thinking, hence when people and even scientists write idiotic articles on why they think Black women are not beautiful it is based on the perceptions of people who have been lied to, to hate, marginalise and de-stabilise a group of people, something they did for a long time with slavery, something Africans to this day are labelled by even when they were never slaves, of which the vast majority blatantly never were, but classed in schools for European Africans (again simply Europeans no different from anyone else in reality, when you don't define yourself by someone else's words of a society in order to prevent you integrating into the one you were born into just like anyone else), hence we get articles like this: Racist Psychology Today article claims black women are objectively less attractive than other women http://feministing.com/2011/05/16/racist-psychology-today-article-claims-black-women-are-objectively-less-attractive-than-other-women/ about this scientist Satoshi Kanazawa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kanazawa because he want's to marginalise based on a lie in the first place, the results are expected because, the notion of beauty if already being eliminated in the first place, so European looks are beauty and Africans ugly, despite European looks coming from and African genus and exhibited by Africans anyway, Black or not, the 'not' (supposedly unmixed North Africans) being mixed people anyway, with so many North Africans claiming to be Arab when they are not, they are Mediterranean people mixed with Black Africans from North Africa to west Africa and not of slavery entirely at all and have been for thousands of years: The spread of homo sapiens http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spreading_homo_sapiens.svg so Asiatic features unless European looking would also be deemed ugly by the psychology of this scientist too. It leads to the old saying, there are lies damned lies and then there are statistics, the views do not reflect the world at large at all, that is why people mix and don't even realise it, or think they are mixed when infact there is no such thing, really just names thrown on them by society groups and some people who they made the mistake of being led by, looking at Tuareg people, from Niger, Nigeria (related Fulani people Arab mix not Berber mix (an insulting name from Romans of North Africans, West Africans were given more respect, the real name of Tuareg people and Berber is Tamazight people) of Tuareg people, Chad, Mali and Mauritania all fall into the same mixed area of North Africa, Saharan people same as those of the North of Africa, so we have Black people (again a false name and not used by Africans really apart from Egyptians) who according to what is now the country of the USA, are deemed White or of the White "race" and then the false division of so-called Sub-Saharan Black people who are mixed and adapted, who bear more Khoisan looking features of original modern humans than those adapted to the climate of the North, so we in this age today need to make it known race does not exist, because our governments want the issue to perpetuate and do nothing to stop it by reaching the final step of "racial" awareness training of our societies not to be racist, to stop the notion of races and thus ignorant patterns of social interaction forming, is to get rid of the notion of race, we know what the words mean, but don't pass on the ignorance with it, so we have stupidity of Bah Bah Black sheep banned, its about a sheep not a human, if its the golly (gollywog) it does need to be banned, because it perpetuates hatred and false stereotypes and notions of Black evil and ugliness, robbing people just because, jealous of people, just because, no reasoning, something ingrained in a child's mind through stealth teaching, same used to create he false notion of race in the first place. Please share this article (by Ladies Love Black Men)

Can people on here tell me more about the history of the North of Nigeria, the split of the regions that are now Nigeria and Niger, who shared a history and people before European Colonialism split them into different countries.

Also other West / North African countries too, Mali, Chad, Mauritania, Western Sahara, Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Sudan.

Any pictures of people would be great too.

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