₦airaland Forum

Chucks13:
I will still says it only a complete mad man like idiagbon( his blessed memery) can rule Nigeria and everybody will sit up or run to exile because no matter how you try to fix this country some demons won't let it work.

Only a iron fist tactics can stop the mess in NNPC whatever because there are 5 or 7 cabals who have be existing since IBB era till date who has vowed to make sure it s either them as per NNPC or nothing, surprisingly two among these demons are among those who want to rule Nigeria by all means and these two demons were among the top arrow-heads that betrayed Gej and joined others to kicked him out.

Seriously first thing iss to dismantle those Petrol Marketers(These two demons also in that group) but coming out to pretend to Nigerians they are saints and kept attacking Tinubu to hide their secret wicked deeds and those confused gullible ones out there supporting them and hailing them not known these 2 demons are one of the real enemy of this country.


And for those "lack of independent reasoning capacity Emergency Nigeria Citizen" quote me and say whatever sorry I don't care.

maasoap:
It is not your or my job to identify poor and vulnerable people but you must know that there would be a way to do that. That is the job of the local government employees, they were in charge. And how do you identify poor and vulnerable than to send people to go to their midst (CDAs)?
I'm not defending Tinubu or Buhari or APC but my point is that don't rubbish what you don't understand based on the kind of mindset you already have towards the system.

nairalanda1:
Poverty cannot be conquered on an economy based on oil.

Simple

nairalanda1:
Don't bother me. We are poor. Let the borrowing continue. If I complain, people llike you will tell me to keep quiet that tinubu is doing a good job...so borrow borrow.

What is wrong with wanting your country to become a developed nation? You people seem to think it is wrong.

nairalanda1:
Okay. We are poor. Let the borrowing continue.

Don't complain

Me I complain . And I wish government sometimes took the right decisions

Your decision is to support tinubu borrowing then comrade. I don't

nairalandadeux:
BECAUSE IT IS TRUE.

It is even better than 2016 when PwC stated that the value was 16%.

World bank was even more optimistic in 2019, they stated that the value was 30%

I have known about how bad it is since that 2019. It is very bad . Most of us are in the informal sector, so we don't pay income tax.

nairalanda1:
Can a country work when less than 20% of the people pay taxes?

Answer that, and we can talk.

Oga PDP man wey wan call me agbado, because I dey laugh at am!

I can't lie to you.

papyjaypaul:
I made a post about NNPC all the time shifting the post



Good question. The current President wrote what he said should be done.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJp4HxZ2p-g

Read it here

The exact thing Tinubu said when Jonathan removed fuel subsidy in 2012 by Toks2008(m): 6:49pm On Jun 04, 2023
https://www.nairaland.com/7714901/exact-thing-tinubu-said-when

Now Obi is doing the same thing as opposition. If he won the Presidency and changed mouth, we will remind him of what he said before he got there.



His party knew that what PDP was doing was on the right path but for politics, they were ready to go against the government because it would have affected their chances of winning an election


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFqadtGRQgw


Now to answer your question directly. Nigeria has refineries but it refused to use them and they keep doing TAM, all the Ministers of Petroleum under Buhari promised to get the refinery working, they gave us different dates, it never worked.
Ibe Kachikwu first promised to resign if local refineries don't work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNeDWcLyfiY?si=bns20XOWE_g5PQ-3

And then they kept promising when it was going to work. NNPC promised us that the local refineries will work before 2023 and then we discovered that Dangote, a private company will be rescuing Nigeria. So Buhari made sure he commissioned it before he left because Dangote did not want a repeat of what happened under Yar DUA in 2007.


The government did not hold anyone responsible for its failure, no one was punished and corruption kept running. The state refineries aren't working.

Now let's go back to subsidy. Let's agree that Nigeria cannot meet its local demand due to corruption. Then the government granted some marketers license to import the product then it found out that these people were inflating prices, they were not importing what they said they would do, they cut corners and some of the importers are just on the list to collect government money, what do you do as a government? Say we will close this program because we cannot punish those who are taking advantage of the system?

Sir, the government can tackle both if they want to. The corruption they allow makes it look like the problem is bigger than it is. Some analysts said Obi would not have the balls to deal with the cabal like Asiwaju has, please tell me, is he afraid to call their bluff? Are the refineries still working? Is he scared of them? Isn't he the same person who can remove a democratically elected governor but all of a sudden, will be scared of a so called cabal? They should tell that to the marines. Government is complicit in the issue. People can now see that subsidy itself was not entirely bad because it was a social contract. What was wrong was to cancel subsidy without appropriate replacement. We don't have local refineries producing and we still prefer to import. The corruption showed its hand when Dangote started refining. We didn't punish those who take our oil outside Nigeria to sell, we didn't punish those selling our unrefined crude and security personnel that could be complicit, it's ordinary Nigerians we said must be punished for the sin of a few. Nigeria we hail thee.

ubimagos:
The news headline, said marketers are worried. If it wasn't working why will they be worried!

ubimagos:
Same people that said the refinery is not working will be the first to blame the management of refinery!

MrIcredible:
If you knew anything about good governance, you won't be here castigating any political party.
Also, the past is very important. It's many of the past actions that puts us in the present situation. Mind you, I'm not in support of this current government.

aylipple:
Not everything has to be viewed from a political or tribal prism, Chief.

I was wrong to have attributed the development to a slow business day or time without addressing the issue of the empty shelves.

I later read another submission on this thread that gave me another perspective to why this may be the case among other factors and I did say so here 👇


Point is, we may agree to disagree without attaching our cause of disagreement or agreement to tribal or political reasons.

MrIcredible:
You people need to stop all these OP0NU mentality.
The problem of this country is not about any political party. There's absolutely no difference between APC, PDP, labour etc. It's the same people going back and forth in those different names. The same thing Maina, Dezani etc did under Jonathan is what Emefiele did under Buhari...
Our problem is bad people which is the product of bad leaders that we have.

aylipple:
Foot falls at shopping malls in some parts of the country are now being used as a benchmark to measure the success or otherwise of the Tinubu admin.
While those who use this indices to measure the admin may not be entirely wrong, it’s also not an accurate reflection of the economic situation in the country; before my position is mistaken as denying the existence of economic hardship realities across the country, what I’m saying is there are other ways to measure than using foot fall in malls
For instance, the video could’ve been made on a slow business day or time also, the fact remains that if any such business owners in the mall aren’t making sales in volumes that cover their running costs and then some little profit, they would’ve closed shop without delay to cut further incurring losses.
Finally, they try to paint the economy as very terrible & unfavorable to businesses yet, their hero who came 3rd in the last presidential elections, has rebuilt his mall (Next Cash & Carry) that was burnt down in a fire accident some few years back; he will restock the business, employ new hands, etc knowing how business owners operate and project, if the economy isn’t viable and doesn’t support businesses to grow and make profit, would he have bothered to reinvest tens of billions to rebuilding? Who rebuilds in a dying or stiffling economy?

nedekid:
Oga it is possible, the medical center will be an MD customer, ie those that have private transformers, we struggle with average monthly bills of 5m for a small boutique hotel and an event center. Note that it is not daily you have events in which you turn on ACs. The hotel closeby I hear average 20m, the Chinese making nylon next door have bills of averagely 30m.
All this is aside diesel cost which is the real killer. Infact most business these days see diesel as the major expense. Most cannot afford to restart production process when nepa takes light and bring it at will so they just keep the gen running.
Now if the federal medical center is a big place such as Lasuth, or LUTH, I assume they will have heavy equipments such as CT scanners, MRI and other power hungry equipments you cannot just shut down, they are not like computers or TV you off and on, it takes a long process. Based on that assuming they run a 1000kva generator which ast 80% load consumes eg 180 liters of diesel per hour for 15 hours daily ie 2700 liters per day or 81k liters monthly.
Yes corruption as you rightly said will be there. I give you an example, few days ago we bought 500 liters, the next day by 5am estate security stopped a vehicle leaving with 7 kegs of diesel, last last it was traced to my premises. By 5am my security man had drained 220 liters into 7 kegs and a buyer came that early morning with a vehicle to carry, paying him 24k per keg. And this has gone on for a long time, luckily we caught them.

jmoore:
Stop converting to naira.

They don't spend in naira.

APCNig:
We have the highest number of children aming black nations, our children’s population is more than the total population of several nations combined. So it is not expected that we have more poor children than others. If those that announced this have any sense at all, then they will talk about the percentage against other percentages.

However m, those that brought Nigeria to this bad state will all die miserably

casualobserver:
You are like Obi, you like writing epistle about the problems but no solution. I don’t need to be told over and over the problems, we all know! I have told you the road to good governor and that it is in the hands of the citizens. You refuse to accept and are waiting for a messiah to save you.

How can a messiah emerge when you collect rice and money when elections come? Do you not stop to engage your brains that someone who is willing to give rice 5k for votes is not going to work for me when he gets into office? Did they force you to collect rice? Again I ask you, are APC, PDP or LP the only parties in town? Why do you always vote for them? In 2023 I voted for Tinubu and I own it but in 2015 the choice was Buhari or GEJ, I voted for KOWA party. In 2019 the choice was Buhari or Atiku, I knew both would be a disaster so I voted for someone else even though I knew he wouldn’t win because I felt even if he doesn’t win he will be encouraged!

Nobody forced you to vote for the candidates of APC, PDP or LP all of whom are different grades of crooks.

Take responsibility for your own errors as a citizen. If you voted I am sure you voted for APC, PDP or LP so really you have no right to pontificate. You got what you voted for!!

casualobserver:
Oga stop wasting my time. Go and find your good leaders. It me I know so long as citizens think like you we are going nowhere. You want a great country but you don’t want to play your part. You are waiting for a messiah to save you.

New flash! Nobody is coming to save you! You have to prove to the quiet good people you are worth saving or else they won’t enter the ring! They are not there to steal so why should they enter the ring when you the citizens continue to behave like entitled clowns?

casualobserver:
Tell them where I absolved them? As an educated man I expect you to be able to read and understand what you read. I said we have bad leaders so how have I absolved them? I have simply maintained that the reason why we have bad leaders is because good ones stay away. The reason good ones stay away is because the citizens.

KOWA party presented a good candidate did you vote for her? SDP presented a good candidate, did you vote for him? Are APC, PDP and LP the only parties in town?

casualobserver:
This time I didn’t read your post beyond the 1st sentence because it seems you still want to absolve the citizens for the problems of the country.

Nigerias problems are the citizens, you don’t agree…no problem! No need for further engagement or both of us writing epistles back and forth.

casualobserver:
It’s either you don’t live in Nigeria or you are living in denial!

If you want to fix Nigeria, fix the citizens. They are the ones with the power. I already gave you the example of ENDSARS…what happened? ENDSARS was simply a copycat movement (remmember black lives had just happened in America) just as the occupy movement was a copy to the occupy movement in North Africa. The same youth sold each other out and then collapsed into a movement led by a man who not only is part of the same system but ironically was the one who more or less created SARS! You can’t make this stuff up!


Fix your citizens and you will have a good country. Keep blaming leaders or waiting for a leader to emerge and things will only get worse!