₦airaland Forum

kedeojo:
It's supporters can't give us a signature project he undergo as governor. They result to insults. Any of who what to speak, will say he link villages by road. Is there any governor since 1999 that does not link one or two villages with road. I frequent Anambra axis under his tenure, Onitsha and Akwa was not transformed at all. Onitsha was so disorganized and bad roads with potholes. Go there now and see what Soludo has done. Maybe Hero beer with Biafra symbol his what is supporters will called signature projects.

Bluntemperor:
As long as Kyari is there, NNPC can't move forward,due to the Corruption in that Organisation and unfortunately, they don't give a damn.
The government and NNPC are in the Oil-game-together!
That is how terrible it is-hear nothing and see nothing!

Flame333:
The Nigeria Army have been accused of Collaborating with oil bunkers by the undercover Journalist that was arrested recently. Hear the Journalist saying that the Army sent his information to the bunkers so that exposing them should not be done.... A very shameful and embarrassing country we have... The report is on the Punch newspaper and am yet to see counter argument against it....

Tompolo has said several times that the army is a complicit in the oil stealing thing but they denying it.........................

Tflex01:
Reading through the comments up there, you have to be sick in the head to believe there is any hope for Nigeria.

Nigerians have many citizens wishing and praying for her downfall just because their fraudulently packaged politician lost an election. Unfortunately, it is a never ending cycle.

Philosophic:
It's not being discouraged. There should be a priority list. I reiterate that this should be way down in the list.

Now take an instance: as of May 2023 the nation shouldn't be paying fuel subsidy. That's understandable. But the removal of the subsidy is definitely going to bring a lot of consequences with it. The thing is to set modalities to cushion those effects when they arise.

All of these well meaning policies should be well coordinated.

Philosophic:
Honestly, I'm impressed by your sense of humor.
If section 143 of the Constitution can be conviniently ignored, what makes you think that there won't be a way around this bill?

adamusuleiman3:
#Statisense
(FIRS)

Philosophic:
You don't chase a rat in a burning house.
This should come way down in the list.

TheBillyonaire:
There should be cogntive examination set for intending political office holders. What we have here is a bunch unread people who basically have no knowledge of how to run businesses at the helms of affairs running crazy experiments on people's lives.

When I watched the latest Lex Friedman's podcast with the President of Argentina, I realized that no Nigerian in politics today is capable of being President.

It takes sound minds with capability to study and simulate economic models to run countries. My advice is that everyone should figure out a way to survive in the country.

I see no reason why Politics is left for the unintelligent. There should be cognitive exams set for any public office.

yemmit90:
I don't think you took your time very well to comprehend my posts.

There is total different between communism( public ownership, including the means of production), and removing the reason to steal or accumulate properties. I didn't say people should not own properties, I was literally saying government should remove power to accumulate properties from private individuals. You were actually confused between the uses of terms " OWNING AND ACCUMULATION" .That was why I highlighted what government can do to discourage people from accumulating properties, which cumulated to a vital reason people are embezzled public fund in Africa. Check my posts very well, I didn't say government should stopped people from owning properties, i was only saying that, the power to accumulate or build ones should be remove and vested in the hands of government or government backed private properties companies. I even suggested that individuals can built businesses but must comes in form of Limited liability companies that shares can be obtain.

It is the same system western countries are using, because it promote accountability and transparency to check mate corrupt citizens.

I also sum up your other points, and still see you don't really understand what I was trying to opines( Impact of African cultures/traditions on its social-economic development).

Let me explain this in a simple term, a society are first formed from individuals, follow by families, groups of families, villages, towns, and upto a larger society. Since these set of people sees the need to have a constituted authority to promote common goals and aspirations, they picked one or few of them, to whom they surrendered their individual power for protection or to collectively move their society forward. My exact point here is that, societies are the real reflection of its leaders. You can't give what you don't have.

While I will agree with you that tribalism, religions and political affiliation will hinder people from coming together to demand accountability, the greatest of them all is greed. The reality is that, a selected few that should lead the movement due to the same problem (greed) could be easily bought out in this part of the world.

Americans were able to institutionized their behaviors because they took both capital and humans resource seriously by taking care of physiological needs of their people. Nigeria and Africa will remain the same, until one leader accidentally embark on what I highlighted in my previous post.as long as people sees basic necessity of life as luxury, corrupt will continue to consume us the black race.

If you want to know the basic tenet of European and American system, try to read all the theories and postulations from Socrates, upto the recent Karl max. That will give you an insight of how a good society are built.

Apel147:
Of course we aren't all bad citizens but it seems we have more bad folks going by the stats..


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We are not all bad. Many Nigerians are doing great and commendable things home and abroad. Individuals do not have state powers or instruments of coercion to enforce the right behaviors that will correct societal ills. If a people could govern themselves without leaders, there would be no use for leaders. A wise man said “everything rises and falls on leadership.”

yemmit90:
I am quite understand your points as a fundamentalist, this is where our failure begins. We always thought we can do it withiout addressing the problem we all have as black race, especially the ones imbedded in our traditions. Greed and tendency to dominate or being worship are the major characteristics of African cultures. It is so unfortunate that we all forgot the same leaders emanated from the same society with the same cultures and traditions..

If you say a black man can liberate himself, why was he unable to do so many decades into civilization era? Why was he remain at the bottom of the ladder and unable to bring himself out?

I won't type much because African issue has only one solution, which is to remove reasons to steal by removing power to accumulate private properties from individuals. No politicans/leaders, both dead or alive can give you that because it is not in their nature to do so. We can only start by providing basic necessity of life for people in which I highlighted in my previous post.

For instance, if my income is 100k, and I tell a government properties agent that I wanted to buy a house worth 20 millions with cash, they will definitely ask me where I get the money from. Since it has became illegal to do it myself, I may not have choice but to stop looking for 20m cash that I cannot afford in the first place. Also, if I know that government will take care of my children needs, and also myself off active years, there is no point accumulating unnecessary wealth for my old age or children to inherit.

People steal because of uncertainty of future, and once that is removed, people will no longer see the need to be corrupt.

I was once an apostles of good leaders, strong institutions, etc, but looking back at African culture/tradition, every single soul born into that bloodline has a tendency to be corrupt or abuse power when given opportunity. Have you ever wonder why we Africans performed excellently well in Western countries but come back home to become our real version? It was once like that in western countries and other developed nations until they took those factors into consideration, which eventually free their societies from greed and unpatriotism.

It is after this that good and patriotic leaders can emerge from nearly corruption free society.

Apel147:
And u think the right process is not the society but govt offices? From where do you leaders come from? Space I get.. our leadership is a reflection of how our society is! Let's stop pretending

yemmit90:
Read my write up very well, I only address the fundamental issue facing by black race (greed, which is embedded in our cultures and traditions). We are just deceiving ourselves if we think that an average Niegrian can manage power or do the right thing where he can do and undo.

No Nigerian or black man is free of corruption where he has a good chances of accumulating wealth or power to oppressed others. Until the reasons to steal is remove from our lifestyle in Africa, we may not witness a worthy development till the rest of time.

What are the reasons to steal,

1. Power to errect structures of any kind should be remove from individuals and vested in the hands of government or property management companies.

2. Government should ensure all group of adults in active age are gainfully employed and pay reasonable unemployment allowance.

3. Government much take good care of all children below 18 years and adults above 65 years of age.

4. Education must be free from elementary schools upto University level.

5. Heath care service should be almost free and health insurance must be subsidise by the Government.

6. Food must be the cheapest commodity in the market and cost next to nothing.

7. This may sounds strange to many but I can categorically say that SMSE as it being practice in Nigeria can not move us forward. The power to do businesses should be remove from individuals and vested in the hands of big companies that is capable of employing thousands of workers. Individual can start business but must be limited liability company that people would be able to buy shares.

If we can achieve the above points, especially 1 - 3, which i think is the core reason people steal at any slighted opportunity, Nigeria and Africa will witness a significant progress in short period of time. Besides, people tend to obey the law and be more patriotic when they have nothing to fear about their future or wellbeings.

Philosophic:
This Mirrors my thoughts

yemmit90:
Even if INEC and Judiciary are made to operate independently withiout imput of president, individuals in these sectors would still become gods and favour the highest bidders.

Until we remove the reason to steal or accumulate materials wealth or properties, an average black man will continue to exhibit corruption irrespective of the system involved.

Ayoefa:
Stop playing to the gallery.

You guys are always emotional when things don't go your way.
Let's even assume for a minute that the IREV was compromised intentionally, does that stop paper collation from working? Did your candidate come to court with paper work from polling units signed by all parry agents showing that he scored more than what INEC eventually declared?
This are simple common sense questions that can be easily answered.
The fact is that the IREV couldn't work as expected simply because you have way more traffic during general election as compared to just one state Governorship election.
Even if the Irev didn't work, the most important document is the result paper signed by all party agents at the polling units.
If your candidate truly won, he could have brought those papers to court.
But he didn't because he knew he lost. He was banking on disqualification on some delusional excuses instead of proving that he got the most votes. He played on the intelligence people like you.
Thr irev is not a must in any election, the result sheet it what's important. Obi knows this but he enjoys playing his followers like yoyo.

Ayoefa:
Rubbish trash.
Tinubu was voted for by the majority of Nigerians.
You people will cry and wail forever.
Such a pathetic and infantile Clueless rant.
Every country had their own system of elections.
How many country can afford to have the kind of primary system that we have in the US?
Even most European countries don't have that system.
How many people directly elect the UK, Italian and other PM?

Una go just deynpost Rubbish trash just because your Agulu packaged fraud lost an election.
Even if we change the system, the YES DADDY religious fanatical IPOB terrorist cannibal monkey will still lose.

RealityOfReason:
You naive lots never cease to amaze me. You think the Judiciary and INEC will do better if they become independent? What would prevent them from constituting independent despotism at that time? After all, it's the same quality of humans governing us that are employed into INEC. How about we start with restructuring both the country and the moral character of the average Nigerian?

Ken4Christ:
I don't think so. He already has his facilities set up and running. A price difference of even N50 per litre is huge and it's enough to divert major marketers to him. I believe there's an agreement he cannot breach.

chidiokay:
With the way Nnpc reneged on the agreement with Dangote from commencement who could have saved dangote if not the public

And i asked did the public sympathy antics help dangote or not, would you have a $20 billion investment and you will let some rogues ruin it down, there are information about landing cost and pricing in public domain now that we have never seen, but dangote as enforce some level of transparency

A higher fuel quality would last in your tank and prolong your engine lifes ... some of us select fillings station cos we are observant.


what dangote is asking for is Fairness, industrialization should be prioritize, banning importation does not scramble Marketers, all they just have to is change source and they are still in business But those rogues know with Dangote many of there dirty secrets will be exposed.

Dont say the marketers are just doing business, are you not aware its because of these rogues "subsidy" was demonized cos of corruption

If Dangote have is way it might look like monopoly 1stly but it will displace cabals, and pave ways for more private refineries to spring up ... investors are watching keenly to see if the oil sector can be liberalised


more local refinery is our ideal route to cheap, dangote must survive

chidiokay:
If being you is intelligence i will pass beko, at the 1st hightlighted to simply shot yoursef ... Dangote refinery is primarily purpose is to serve Nigeria, if junk of dangote trade is with Nigeria then he is subjected to the Nigeria trade terms,

Dangote is a producer and marketers are distributors go nd understand the difference. in lame man's english Dangote has no connect to Nigerians without distributors, learn.
Can we call what we are seeing a deregulation, Nnpc still fixed the price and as we speak me or you cant distinguish dangote fuel from imported fuel by Price ..smh
Presently Nnpc are still importing, judging from the market price where is evidence imported fuel is cheaper

When dangote mentioned int'l price influencing is price he is infering Nigerians to know he bought crude from Nnpc at int'l price which is the basis for price computation.

I am not holding brief for Dangote, but i know the stupidiest thing is to trust the same people that have being explioting Nigerians for decades.

All these economic theories can we achieve it with local refineries why must it be IMPORT.
why are you people making it seems the only way to curb Monopoly is importation ..
Nnpc was sole importer for how long, you all liked it But Dangote monopoly that will trigger other local refineries and reduce FX pressure is the Covid in town.

Taking importation off the desk means cabals have to take local measures to combat Dangote, they cant go idle n watch dangote take it all, cant you guyz think.

killing industrialization all in the name of cheap is the stupidiest thing, only Nigerians can reason that way

chidiokay:
When you are in a match with a team that the refree is wearing there jersey your chances not to lose is only VAR, lets look at hostically since Dangote resorted to media & cry out as it paved ways or block ways for him,
" Sometimes you don't need to win a war you did not start .. just survive it " quote me on marbles

Dangote has an investment to protect while the Nnpc/marketers only have selfish interest to protect.

How feasible is Dangote Monopoly with existences of national refineries and an open license to any investor at all time.

How do you make "cheap" uncompetitive in a country where 80% can't even afford TM .. put omo igbo lg tv in store alongside fouani lg tv and watch 80% go for omo igbo lg tv that is the reality of the market dangote found himsef. except standard is enforced dangote cant compete

it is the duty of govt to protect local industry... is it not mind boggling that the Apc govt that ban imported Rice/grains to promote local farmers are the ones indifferent about fuel importation.

Lets also unban food importation to competite with local farmers .. is Rice cheap

chidiokay:
An whats the trajectory of the so called NUDPRC, have they not shown partisanship enough. who disparaged Dangote fuel as inferior and how true is that statement today

Its myopic to accuse Dangote of "Monopoly" when the same people inciting monopoly are the very ones sabotaging our national refineries from working

Do you even know what the PIA stipulates about local refineries and allotment priorities. Dangote is making a move to protect is investment following the PIA, after all PIA is not written by dangote, and it beneficiary to all local refineries within naija.


You cant bring a clone iphone to disparage my tm iphone market as "expensive and you expect me not to act or create awareness.

Dangote can only make is product competitive in a market where standard is enforced, we dont sell same quality and you dare say my product is expensive thats not competition

We have four dead refineries but those rogues tell us the only way to curb dangote is continue to import even at the detriment of our economy, and thats whats you are supporting

Ken4Christ:
Probably Dangote has signed an agreement to sell at approved price. Otherwise, Dangote should just sell a little lower and NNPC will drink their imported fuel