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killsmith:
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Quantum entanglement.
Two particles which have been quantum entangled are connected even if they are both at the ends of the universe. You can study the properties of the other Particle by observing the other. This is the science behind wormholes.

The story was debunked. Nevertheless, this is an interesting piece of information.

Thank you.

PenpalOso:
Long story short, there’s a Russian research institute dedicated to discovering what happens after we die. They were successfully able to imbed a tracking chip in a man’s soul, using neuralink type of technology. Man dies, then tracking systems strangely shut down for a minute, only to reboot with the tracked soul pinging at an entirely different solar system.

That can’t be true. Lol.
They said the consciousness was tracked to a galaxy that is about a billion light years away, right?
Well, that’s the problem. It would have taken at least a billion years for the waves transmitting the signals to be sent across both galaxies.

So yeah, that’s false.

AbuTwins:
Jesus is not Satan and i never said or meant that in any way!

I may have misunderstood you then.

I do not want to respond to the other comments in your post because we would keep going back and forth all day. And neither of us will budge.

If you have any Scriptural texts to prove your doctrine, then I will hear you out.

Until then.

AbuTwins:
Paul Himself says in 2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

So the light he saw coming from Damascus is no different!

So we agree Paul, Luke and Mark didn't fellowshipped with Jesus!

There are clear verses God is One but not three!
There are clear verses God is God and Lord!
But none for Jesus is God!
Even no clear verses for the Holy Spirit is God!

You all used the trinitarian mindset to interpret the Bible!

I honestly think you should get some more education on this, and we can continue at a later time.
You’re not looking at the evidences submitted, instead you’re looking for ways to interpret them to fit your narrative.
Every one can do that.

Get some more education on this, and if you feel you have enough to prove your doctrine to me, I’ll hear you out.
Thank you.

AbuTwins:
Paul Himself says in 2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

So the light he saw coming from Damascus is no different!

So we agree Paul, Luke and Mark didn't fellowshipped with Jesus!

There are clear verses God is One but not three!
There are clear verses God is God and Lord!
But none for Jesus is God!
Even no clear verses for the Holy Spirit is God!

You all used the trinitarian mindset to interpret the Bible!

Oh, so now Jesus is Satan? Lol.
I’m glad you brought that verse up. I did not want to cross any line by bringing it up, but since you have then so be it.

And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
This was written through the inspiration of God the Holy Spirit, and we know that God is all-knowing, right?
So it’s safe to assume that the Angel that appeared to Muhammad and gave him the Quran is of unknown origins even if you testify that it was Gabriel.
We can not authenticate that. Therefore, It was Satan masquerading as an Angel of light.
Paul goes on to say in Galatians 1:8;
“But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!“
So we know that whatever testimony that is not inspired by God just like the Books of Moses for example, who went up to Mount Sinai and wrote down the word of God. Or the books of the Apostles who the Spirit of God inspired to write the Gospels, anything else is of the Devil.

I tried to end this on a good note, and asked you to get more education on that subject. But if you choose to cross lines, and say that Jesus is Satan, then I can do the same and call your book the word of Satan.

AbuTwins:
Paul who wrote over half of the New testament never fellowshipped with Jesus!
Same as Luke who wrote 2 Books and Mark!

Jesus preached to thousands and fed them! But never for once say He was God!
He did miracles! But never for once say He was God!
He said he was not all-Knowing! He was asked the hour and he said only the Father knows it not the son!
He worshipped God many times! Of course he can't worship himself!

If the Bible actually preached Jesus was God, there won't be need for the council of Nicaea and others to fix the divinity of Christ, the Holy spirit and their relationship!

The doctrine of God is Hear O Israel the Lord our God is One (not three in one)!

Paul never fellowshipped with Jesus, but he encountered him on the road to Damascus. And every of his letters were inspired by the Holy Spirit.
Isn’t it interesting that you would try to isolate Paul’s testimony and try to discredit it, while you ignore the accounts of Luke and John who had firsthand witness of this?

Get some education on this.
God is three, and God is one.
Jesus is God, and the Son of God.

AbuTwins:
Where did Jesus say he is God?

You are bringing other's opinion of Jesus!

Paul said..
John said..
Luke said..
Translations and retranslations....
Where did Jesus mentioned himself to be God?


Where did Jesus preached "I am God" or "Worship me" to anyone he ever preached to?

I already answered this in my last post to you.

AbuTwins:
Show me a verse where God Himself said He took human form! It was not God talking in John 1:1.
Jesus was never in Hebrew or all this Colossians and Corinthians you are quoting!

How did you know it was Jesus in the Old testament from the old testament without reading your thoughts into it?

How did he declare himself as God here? The Ego Eimi in John 8:58 is not the same as in Exodus 3:14. And there are many verses that has same eigo eimi but was translated as "i am he".

I think this has been cleared just above! Ego eimi is "i am he" not "i am"!


Was it Jesus talking in John 1:1?

Was it Jesus talking here?



Even after the resurrection he still said he was going to his God to your God!
God does not have another God!

This is comical at this point. You’re not even providing anything else to support your argument. You’re just trying to misinterpret Scripture.
It’s pathetic.

“Was it Jesus talking here”, “Was it Jesus talking here”, “Was it Jesus talking here”.
Does that sound like an argument to you, my friend?
These were the accounts of people who were with Jesus. Who fellowshiped with him, and heard him speak.
They agreed that he is God, but you would rather come up to me 2000+ years later and tell me they misunderstood Jesus?
Listen to yourself. Does that make sense to you?

And I have explained the pre-incarnate form of Jesus to you, but you do not believe that either. I cannot force you to believe, my friend. Far be it from me.

What, do you want me to show to you in the genealogy of Adam, the prophecy that Jesus is God?
“Man is appointed mortal sorrow. But the blessed God shall come down teaching, and his death shall bring the despairing comfort.”
Doesn’t that again just prove that God took on the form of a human as stated in Philippians 2, and he called that human form the Son of God.

You would argue that too, just as you would argue everything that I show you while you are unable to prove anything yourself, but just trying to misinterpret Scripture.

As I said to you in my last comment, do your due diligence first. Try to get some education on the doctrine of God before coming at us with your heretic beliefs.
Until then, God bless you and yours.
Have a wonderful rest of your day.

AbuTwins,
SIRTee just provided you with other verses of Scripture that show that Jesus is the Creator.
There are other verses too that haven’t even been mentioned.
Please do your due diligence first, before trying to refute Scripture with Scripture that only prove Scripture.

Let him who reads, understand.

SIRTee15:
Another gbagaun.
I will show U where Jesus said worship me and also where he's called creator in the new testament.

Jesus as creator of life

Colossians 1
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in Jesus all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him
and for him.

1 Corinthians 8
6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

Acts 3
15 You killed the author of life, but God raised him from the dead. We are witnesses of this.

Jesus demands worship.

John 5
22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honour the Father who sent him.

Abu twin has no shame. This is someone who can not defend the Qur'an but denied it. First go and read the Qur'an and answer my simple question

If Jesus is the indeed the son of Allah, should he be worshipped?

Your knowledge of the bible is zero and very embarrassing for a Muslim apologetics. U dont know the bible.
Take this as a sincere advice.

AbuTwins:
This is exactly what i have been saying. The verses in the old testament did not mention Jesus!
Nowhere in the New Testament did Jesus call himself the creator! Someone will write a statement and it will be attributed to Jesus!

I and my father are one if read in context exposes the meaning as oneness of purpose and not oneness of persons!

You are still interpreting and reinterpreting to derive your Jesus is God!

The verses i stated didn't need any interpretation!
Show us where Jesus said clearly "I am God" or "worship me" or "There's no God beside me"!

Do I have to go over what I already said before?
I told you that God took on human form and called that form the Son of God. We know that as Jesus.
So prior to that, Jesus could not have been seen in the Old Testament except you mention the rare occasions he appeared to Abraham as Melchizedek. Or when he wrestled with Jacob as The Angel of the Lord, and afterwards, Jacob even said I have wrestled with “God”. Or when he appeared to Manoah as The Angel of the Lord, and Manoah said “We have seen God”.
These are all the pre-incarnate forms of Jesus before he ever took on flesh.

When he declared himself as God, I am, he said to the Pharisees;
“Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.”
This is the meeting of Melchizedek and Abraham as he returned from the slaughter of kings. This heavenly event recorded the first tithe, but most importantly, the first communion of our Lord and God, Jesus Christ.

The Pharisees claimed he was too young to claim he ever met Abraham, and what did Jesus answer?
He declared himself God.
“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
He used the very first name God used when he spoke to Moses on the burning bush. I AM!
That is why the Pharisees got mad and tried to stone him because they thought he was blaspheming. But he wasn’t.

About Jesus being the Creator, have you ever read John 1?
The verse 3 of it says;
“Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.”
Colossians 1:15-17 also says the same thing.
“The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

I already explained to you why he didn’t declare himself as God outrightly. It was because he had taken the form of human, therefore he had become human.
After the resurrection, he could walk through walls and even ascend. He glorified that human form he called the Son. And that is why when Thomas worshipped him saying “My Lord and my God”, he answered Thomas and said "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

Jesus is the Creator. Jesus is God. Jesus is the Son of God.

AbuTwins:
It would have been better if you had done it as usual.
Jesus was never on earth in Hebrew or Revelations!

Show us where Jesus called himself God like the God in the OT did!

Isaiah 44:6
“This is what the LORD says— Israel’s King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.

Deuteronomy 4:35
You were shown these things so that you would know that the LORD is God; there is no other besides Him.

Psalm 86:10
For You are great and perform wonders; You alone are God.

Isaiah 43:15
I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.

Isaiah 45:5
I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,

Deuteronomy 32:39
See now that I am He; there is no God besides Me. I bring death and I give life; I wound and I heal, and there is no one who can deliver from My hand.

Psalm 18:31
For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God?

Isaiah 43:10
"You are My witnesses," declares the LORD, "and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may consider and believe Me and understand that I am He. Before Me no god was formed, and after Me none will come.

“ It would have been better if you had done it as usual.”
I don’t comment on Nairaland that much, so I never cared to understand how the attributes work.
You may have to deal with this for now, please.

And the verses you just put down do not disprove anything I said. It is only reiterating that Jesus is indeed God.
Look at the verses you put down, and see how God says that there is no other God apart from him. But then in Hebrews 1, he calls Jesus God.
Whoa, did God just lie?
Or could it be that truly Jesus and God are one and the same?
The latter is the case, my friend, because Jesus also declared that when he said “I and my Father are one”, and “The Father is in me, and I am in the Father”.

And since you’re springing out verses from the Old Testament, why did you leave out the part where God is the Creator?
Then in the New Testament, Jesus is called the Creator.

You do not understand the doctrine of God. No one can. Know this and know peace.

Jesus is God, and the Son of God.

AbuTwins:
Did God in the Old Testament did same? Why the change? Does God change?

Jesus always speak in Parables!
Even his disciples never understood him! Anyone who has seen the messenger has seen the sender of the message!
This is not an express claim where Jesus said he is God. I knew you will retranslate a verse with your mindset before you can get it.


Thomas was surprised! It was an exclamation at least! And it could mean Thomas was calling the Father or calling Jesus god (no capital/small god in Greek)! Jesus later said “Do not cling to Me,” Jesus said, “for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go and tell My brothers, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God.’” John 20:17 So Jesus had a God who is your God too! God does not have God!

This in no way mentions Jesus. The context was in reference to God not Jesus!

This was just tailored to fit in that Isaiah verse but didn't fit in wholly!

God is never afraid to call Himself God below!
Isaiah 44:6
“This is what the LORD says— Israel’s King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.

But Jesus will always hide in ambiguity refusing to call himself God directly!
Revelation 22:13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

You must translate and retranslate to get what you want with the Bible! Jesus didn't for once call himself God!


We understood God in the Torah to be just one!
The Godhead was created later after Jesus!
Jesus didn't ever call himself God!
You always need to perform miracles to fit in the gaps to make Jesus God!

Jesus worshipped God many times!
Jesus did great miracles but does not know the hour!
Jesus claimed he had a God!
Jesus said the father is greater than him!
Jesus said in John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. The only true God is the God that sent Jesus as a Messenger!

And Acts 2:22
“Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.

“Did God in the Old Testament did same? Why the change? Does God change?“

I do not understand this question of yours. Could you rephrase it for me?
And it’s funny you’re saying I’m translating the verses when I just said them as they were written. You’re the one who is translating and claiming they were tailor fit.
Thomas called Jesus God, and here you are saying that he meant “god”. Who is the one trying to translate it to fit our own view? It is you, my friend.
You just tried to misinterpret it to make it fit into your narrative. So do not project that onto me.

Jesus later said “Do not cling to Me,” Jesus said, “for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go and tell My brothers, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God.’” John 20:17 So Jesus had a God who is your God too! God does not have God!”

“I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to my God and your God.”
[color=#000000][b]This is the mystery of the Godhead that I tell you we cannot possibly fathom. You cannot make it make sense, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t true.
Yes, Jesus said “My God and your God”, but God also said the same thing about Jesus!
Hebrews 1:6-12;
And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
"Let all God's angels worship him."
In speaking of the angels he says,
"He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire."
But about the Son he says,
"Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
•You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your
companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.
10 He also says,
"In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the
earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
"They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment.
12 You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed.
But you remain the same, and your years will never end."
Did you see that?
But about the Son he says,
"Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
•You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your
companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.
He calls Jesus God. And in the latter parts of that chapter, he goes on to say that Jesus laid the foundations of the earth. Thereby, solidifying him as the Creator, God.[/b][/color]

“Jesus said the father is greater than him!“
As I said in the first comment I made on here, God took on the form of a human and called that the Son of God.
Humans hunger, thirst, sleep, and they get tired. The Son(God in human form) was subject to all these, so that’s why he said that the Father(God in his true form) is greater than the Son.
In other words, when he said “The Father is greater than the Son”, he meant “My divine nature is greater than my human nature.”


You cannot understand God. But Jesus is God, and the Son of God.

PS: I can’t get some parts of this to highlight. I hope you don’t mind.

AbuTwins:
Where exactly did he did that without ambiguity?

The God in the old testament didn't wait for recognition before declaring Himself openly several times!

You forget that the God who didn’t wait for recognition before declaring himself openly went on to take on the form of a human, and then called himself the Son of God. Why?
Because in humbling himself to take the form of a human, he could get hungry, he could get tired, he was like humans were.
So he didn’t declare himself God outrightly due to this. Instead he interchangeably declared himself to be God, and the Son of God. And that is where confusion sets in for most.

Even his disciples didn’t know this at first. Philip said to him “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us”.
What was Jesus’ response?
Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’.
Jesus in this verse declared himself to be the Father who is God.

When Thomas saw Jesus after the resurrection, what did he do?
Thomas worshipped Jesus. But only God is to worshipped, so why did Jesus allow himself to be worshipped?
Thomas worshipped Jesus and called him “My Lord and my God”.

Or do we talk about Isaiah 44:6 where the Old Testament God as you put it called himself the “First and the Last”?.
Isaiah 44:6 "This is what the Lord says-Israel's King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.
Then in the book of Revelations, Jesus uses the same name that the God of the Old Testament uses too.
Revelations 22:13 “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.“

So we see here that Jesus declares himself to be God, yet again. But Isaiah 44:6 just said there is no other God apart from the God of the Old Testament. Well, this just proves that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament that you mentioned yourself.

You see, the Godhead is a doctrine we can never understand. And if you try to define God in a way that fits your human thinking, then you would be only confining God and not believing him to be all-powerful.

God is God. Jesus is God. Jesus is the Son of God.

AbuTwins:
It is simple!

God called himself God many times in the old testament!
Even Jesus directed all worship to the father by saying "Our Father who is in heaven....(never on earth).

How many times did Jesus prayed to God in the Bible?

He never for once without ambiguity call himself God!

If Jesus is the son of God!
And Sons of God came to have sex with daughters of men in Genesis 6:1-4!
Was Jesus among them then?

So Son of God can only be a metaphor!

He never called himself God?
I don’t know what Bible you read, but Jesus declared himself to be God on multiple occasions.
And the Apostles, even Paul, recognized him as God.

Ken4Christ:
Jesus prayed to God because he was human on earth.

Jesus off course claimed to be God in many occasions.

1. When he said, : before Abraham was I Am.

2. When he forgave sins. Can ordinary human forgive sin.

3. When he called God his Father. Not even Moses or Elijah addressed God as their father.

4. When he said, he who has seen me has seen the Father.

5. When he said that he is the first and last.

6. When he said he will send down the Holy Spirit. Which mortal man has the power to send down the Holy Spirit. Remember that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God.

7. When he accepted worship on several occasions.

I could go on and on.

Yes, there were angels called sons of God. But Jesus is the only incarnate son of God or the only begotten Son of God. And he also became the first begotten from the dead.

Right on. The Godhead is a mystery, for sure.
But one thing is true and validated by Scripture over and over again. And it is that Jesus is God.

Beautifulday:
I just don't fill like because you won't understand it. Is like telling someone that amoeba is a living thing. The person cannot grasp it if the person doesn't first know what a living thing is

Yeah? Well, I feel you don’t have any thing to back it up with.
Cite your sources, and leave the understanding to me.
Have a wonderful rest of your evening, Mister.

Beautifulday:
Sorry if you lack understanding about some of these matters.

Is that a way of saying you can’t cite anything to back up your claim?
Not even the Scripture?

Beautifulday:
The God head is the leadership of the God race. The God head rules over a kingdom. There are people who make up that kingdom. Those who make up that kingdom are the part of the God race.

Adam was a member of the kingdom of God that is while God had been doing everything possible to bring the children of Adam to their kingdom back.

A race live in their world. A race doesn't have a physical characteristics. They have characteristics that allow them live in their world.

Human are able to live on earth because of the Human body.

There are celestial bodies that allows other beings love in celestial world.

Adam once lived in both world like Jesus also did when he was here.

This is starting to look like a joke. I’d appreciate it if you cite your sources to me. Thank you.

And as I said earlier, when I say “God”, I mean the Creator. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
God, as in a person and/or persons. The Trinity, nothing else.
Not God as in a race or whatever fan-fic you have going on.
If you cannot cite any evidence of your claims to back it up, then I’ll stop this back and forth with you.
I’ll be waiting for you to cite the sources, by the way.

And going back to the original post.. Jesus is God, and the Son of God.
God as in the creator of all things, and not a “race”.

Beautifulday:
I asked you earlier a race is. I want to ask you again.

What is a race?

Or

What makes a race?

A race is made up of physical characteristics and/or shared ancestry.

But the spirit of God in Adam did not make him “God”. You said God was a race and Adam was a part of that race. Therefore, you indirectly claimed Adam to be part of the Godhead before the fall of Man.

If you’re talking about being “associates of the God-kind”, then I can totally agree with that. I mean the Scripture clearly said it. “Partakers of the divine nature”. If this is what you mean about Adam being a part of, then I can agree with that.

Nevertheless, I am talking about God as in the Creator. And I think of it as a closed circuit. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
God, as in the Creator of all things is a person and/or persons. But not a race.
Now this is the one I do not agree Adam was a part of.

Beautifulday:
We are not done with Adam. What God gave Adam was his Spirit. A part of him. That is what made Adam a son of God.

This is what is likened to the statement in the Bible that God created man in his own image after his likeness.

The image and likeness of a being is what is classified as a race.

Did you read what I typed earlier about Adam being a son of God because God breathed his essence into him?
I already talked about that, so why are you bringing it up still?
Adam was called the son of God because he had the essence of God in him. I know that, and I don’t need a reminder.
But you said that God is a race, and Adam was a part of that race. That is what you need to prove, Mister. Not about Adam being a son of God.

Beautifulday:
What God breath into Adam was His life.

Which is what I just said. “Spirit or breath of God”.

I’m glad we are done with Adam. Pray tell, how God is a race, will you?

Beautifulday:
What is the essence as you called it that God breath into him?

God breathed “wind” into Adam’s nostrils.
The Hebrew translation for that is “Spirit or breath of God”. That was the essence that God breathed into Adam.
(I sincerely hope you try to make a case about how Adam is God out of this.)

You made a bold claim that God is a race. Are you going to cite any of your sources, or just try to back up the claim at least?

Beautifulday:
That means you didn't read what I wrote earlier. Adam was a member of the race before he fell. Jesus came to restore man to that race.

I read what you wrote, and I purposely avoided that to try to understand you.
Now, I’ll clear you on it.
When I say “God”, I mean the Creator. And the Creator is not a race.
When the Watchers descended on Earth. They were considered “gods” because they were of a different “race”, as you would put it. But they are not a race. Neither is God the Creator a race.
And Adam was called the son of God for the same reason the Angels were called sons of God.
What reason is that? Because Adam had Father or Mother. God formed him from the dirt, and breathed his essence into him. Hence, he was called a son of God.

And to rephrase what I said earlier so you could better understand it, or dispute it if you have anything to cite…
Jesus is the Creator, and the Son of the Creator.

Beautifulday:
What is a race?

So you're saying the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit make up this race?
Or are there other people that are part of this race asides from the three I just mentioned?

God is not a race. Where did you get that from?

Satan and the demons are fallen angels. Angels. And how did they become demons, you may ask.
Angels usually bore the name of God, El, otherwise known as Elohim, Elyon, etc. Angels had the name of God as part of their essence, and we can see that in the names of Michael, Gabriel, Uriel, Joel, Azazel, and Samael, to name a few.
After the fall of the Angels we know as Demons today, I believe it's fair to think that God, El, found them to be corrupt. Hence, he deemed them unworthy to bear his perfect name. And when he removed it, they became demons.
How did they become demons over some name? Well, we know that God is light. And we also know that darkness doesn't exist (Let him who reads, understand). You can't put darkness in a room. Darkness is just the absence of light, right?
God saw that these angels, now demons, were unworthy to bear his name, and so he took that name away from them. He took his essence away from them. Thereby, they became dark and evil since the light had been removed from them.
We can see that example in Samael, who is now known as Satan the Devil.

And as I asked earlier, how is God a race?

Beautifulday:
.

God is like race like the human race. Do you know Adam was a son of God. Adam was a prince of God given the earth to rule.

The father is the head of the God head. He is the God of the God race. Man became human when he fell.

Satan and demon is on another race. They are not human, they are not God. Their origination is different.

Jesus is the second in command of the God race. Holy Spirit is next. For now, man who has elevated back seems to be the next in the God race behind the holy Spirit.

All these personalities work together for the good of the kingdom. Why it is strange for most black people to understand the relationship between these personalities is because of strive among the different tribe and races they belong to.

They have no sense of patriotism towards their nation or people.

Beautifulday:
The father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are different distinct personalities.

I'm trying to gain more knowledge on that. But at the point I'm at right now, I lean towards Modalism.
One God manifested in three forms. But I do not discount Trinitarianism; One God in three persons. I'm still looking to be more versed on the doctrine of the Godhead.
Or it could be a mixture of both since God is all-powerful. That would mean God is the One that is Three, and the Three that is One.

Jesus is God, and the Son of God.

Ourtruth247:
I will be creating the thread on Pedophila, child sexual abuse and child sex trafficking by 1am tonight.

Get ready.

Sounds like you’re getting ready to talk about Adrenochrome.

Interesting.

RevDesm0ndJuju:
The convenant ended the day they killed Christ .


The Temple was destroyed as prophecied by Christ and the new Israel is the church and the Temple is you to which the Holy spirit will dwell in.


Judeo masonic corruption is what you are suffering from.

That’s another question I’ve been looking to find an answer to.

Has Bible prophecies been fulfilled already or are they yet to be fulfilled?
This includes Revelation.

RevDesm0ndJuju:
Their goal is to have the Jewish Zionist one world order on or before 2030.


This is why they want to destroy the mosque and build their abomination of desolation on the mount.

They have already started doing that.
15 - minute cities, pushing their NWO agenda…
“You’ll own nothing, and be happy.”

About this Anti-Christ… When I heard he would be from the Middle East, I imagined he would be Muslim. But he’s a Jew.
I forgot Israel was part of the Middle East.

RevDesm0ndJuju:
God of Israel is with the Palestinians .

Do you think it is natural how this generation of Palestinians could pull such a niraculous military feat ?

There is heaven's divine hand involved here.

And do you want to know why ?

Just this last Friday , Jews stormed the temple mount mosque of Al Aqasa under the protection of Israeli security forces and drove the Muslims out of it.

The reason for this madness has to do with the latest superstition going round among Jews of the birth of a red cow which to them signifies the time to rebuild the third temple and signifies the emergence of the Jewish Messiah who is from every indicator the anti Christ.

Jews believe that they must take over the entire planet by 2030 and have Jerusalem as their global capital under the reign of the Jewish Messiah.

In this Jewish utopia you will be a slave hence the phrase you will own nothing.

Now the Palestinians may not be aware of the satanic convergence of Jewish secularism as dictated by the WEF and the spiritual aspect as contained in the Talmud. The Palestinians are beyond pissed that the Jews will destroy the 3rd holiest site in Islam and from there build a third temple to the Jewish god, Lucifer.


As a Christian , you should be aware that only Christ can rebuild the temple for himself when he returns and that the destruction of the second Temple heralded the end of the Mosiac era for that of Christi Yeshua.


What you are witnessing is God putting the Jews back to their place.

God has ignored all their artrocities and sin against the gentiles and the church but using the site HE reserved for HIS Son to build HIS kingdom on earth was the last straw.

These Jews are getting a long overdue lesson from Baba God Himself.


And so you see, the Palestinian military miracle is heavenly ordained.

Birth of a cow?

Do you think this could be the abomination of desolation as prophesied by Daniel?
And I have been hearing the rumors about a Mashiach coming in 5 months.

The World Economic Forum with their demonic agenda, is as the Bible called them, the synagogue of Satan.