Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Biblical Reasons Why Hell Might Not Exist by Lorddj4real(m): 11:14am On Aug 08, 2016 |
rummeh: Many Christians today believe in a place of eternal torment where sinners are sent after death, commonly referred to as Hell in English. This belief is extremely mainstream and forms part of the basic perception of the religion in popular culture. Am not a Jehova Witness tho but i want you to enjoy reading this.
1.It was Barely Mentioned in the bible According to Romans 6:7, “he that is dead is freed from sin.” So if a person’s sins are cleared with his or her death, then what’s with the additional punishment of Hell? Well, Romans 6:23 goes on to state that “the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Note that there is no mention of sinners being condemned to everlasting torture, they simply don’t get the reward for living a righteous life. Similarly, 2 Thessalonians 1:9 says that the punishment for those deemed wicked is not fiery torture, but destruction, “shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might.”
2.Many References To Hell Were Mistranslated
When it comes to misconceptions about Hell, the popular 17th-century King James Version (KJV) of the Bible has a lot to answer for. For example, in the KJV, the prophet Jonah was in the “belly of Hell,” while David bafflingly insists that God would be with him even in Hell. Even Jesus pops down to Hell after his death on the cross.
That’s particularly important to Hades and Sheol, which are roughly equivalent words in Greek and Hebrew. Neither can reasonably be translated as “place of torment,” which is what the word “Hell” now generally implies. A better translation might be “the grave” or “the afterlife.” Neither term carries a value judgment in the way that “Hell” does—only the wicked go to Hell, but all souls are in Sheol after death. So David’s weird KJV claim that God would be with him in “Hell” is better translated as “the afterlife” or even “the depths.” While the KJV references Jesus being in Hell after his death on the cross, the New International Version makes a much less dramatic reference to him being in his “grave.” In fact, the New International Version only refers to Hell 15 times, compared to a whopping 54 mentions in the KJV. Other modern Bibles try to avoid such problems altogether by simply leaving “Sheol” and “Hades” untranslated, although this hasn’t quite undone the influence of the KJV. As the Encyclopedia Americana of 1942 put it: “Much confusion and misunderstanding has been caused through the early translators of the Bible persistently rendering the Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades and Gehenna by the word ‘Hell.’ The simple transliteration of these words by the translators of the revised editions of the Bible has not sufficed to appreciably clear up this confusion and misconception.” 3.Jesus Didn’t Invent His Parable About Hell
It’s right there in the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus, as recorded in Luke 16:19-31.
In fact, Jesus didn’t even come up with the story in the first place. Scholars have long identified the general outline (a beggar is rewarded after death, while a rich man is punished) as an Egyptian folktale that became popular with Jewish religious teachers like the Pharisees, to the point that early Jewish literature contains at least seven versions of it. In Luke’s account, Jesus only brings the story up after the Pharisees mock his original Parable of the Unjust Steward, thus using one of their own favorite stories to demonstrate their hypocrisy. With this context, it’s hard to see the parable as a serious account of the Christian afterlife.
4. Even The Church Fathers Couldn’t Agree On Hell
Since many hold the early church fathers as the authority on matters of faith and doctrine, many would find it surprising that even they couldn’t agree if Hell existed and, if so, what it actually was. Justin Martyr, Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, and Cyprian were among those that held that Hell was a literal place of fiery torment. Origen and Gregory of Nyssa disagreed, countering that Hell was simply separation from God. In modern times, many Christian denominations have moved away from Saint Augustine’s conception of Hell as a physical place beneath the Earth. Even the venerable Catholic Church has apparently decided to go with the flow, with the Catechism of the Catholic Church, approved by Pope John Paul II in 1992, declaring that Hell is simply a state of “definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed.”
5.Some Aspects Of Hell Seem Distinctly Non-Christian
The Ancient Egyptian religion, for example, featured a cavern containing a “lake of fire” where the souls of the wicked were punished for their transgressions. The early Mesopotamians also believed that the underworld lay underground, although it was more dim and miserable than a place of eternal punishment. A particularly interesting comparison can be made between the popular idea of Hell and Zoroastrianism, an ancient religion originating in what is now Iran. In the earliest Zoroastrian texts, the souls of the sinful are judged after death and condemned to eternal punishment in the underworld, which theBook Of Arda Viraf describes as a pit full of fire, “smoke, stench and demons.” The souls are tortured according to the severity of their sins in life and the whole thing is presided over by Angra Mainyu, the great evil spirit, “who ever ridiculed and mocked the wicked in hell” for following him instead of their creator god.
http://www.newsdoggen.org/2016/08/7-biblical-reasons-why-hell-might-not.html It is interesting to note that the caption of this write up carries an uncertain term (MIGHT). The fact that you don't know about a thing does not mean it does not exist. I am very sure you don't know me, but obvously I exist. The kingdom of God requires faith to have anything to do with it. Jesus himself said in Matt 13:41-42, that those which do iniquity shall be cast into a furnace of fire. Hmm, I do not see any mis-interpretation here. To those that claim it is a means to make people fear, now that may be true for some, but that is not the original intention of the Word of God. Now, If you tell a child not to play with fire that it burns, is it to make him afraid or to prevent him from hurting himself because you care for the child? Be the judge.
God bless you.
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Politics › Re: Efcc’s Freezing Of Fayose’s Account Is Illegal- Ajulo by Lorddj4real(m): 9:12am On Jun 22, 2016 |
Having gone through all the comments above, it is a wonder many are in support of corruption because there is a law giving immunity to a thief. Have you considered the Psychological effects on most Nigerians interested in this case if a corrupt official walks free because of an immunity clause? This country needs deliverance from the nature of corruption. God help us. |
Culture › Re: Ooni Ogunwusi Performs Olokun On Philadelphia Bridge,USA(pics by Lorddj4real(m): 4:53pm On Jun 13, 2016 |
jordinsparkles: Are these people mad or something.. Did they travel to the US to pollute their water. I am wondering too if they left Nigeria to go and sacrifice to an idol? So local idol is no longer correct? Hmm, Where are we headed to? |
Phones › Re: MTN Ng Offers Its Subscribers Free Calls For The Month Of August: How To Activat by Lorddj4real(m): 5:42pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Genea: hey can i still join beta talk and wah r d benefits presently.tnx Sorry for the late response, busy busy busy. Yea you can still join. You get 3 times what you loaded and to call any network... |
Politics › Re: New Hurdle For Amaechi, Fashola As Senate Rules That Two Senators Must Endorse E by Lorddj4real(m): 5:38pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
What will we not see and hear in this country? Hmm. Still looking at the way things will turn out............................... |
Phones › Re: MTN Ng Offers Its Subscribers Free Calls For The Month Of August: How To Activat by Lorddj4real(m): 12:34pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
Now, I do not intend to go for this one as I am presently on Beta Talk and that was realy nice until MTN discovered they gave out more they could afford. |
Romance › Re: On The OTHERSIDE Of Love... by Lorddj4real(m): 12:22pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
Annypie: I really don't know how I got there, still a little dazed, it was soo fast almost unbelievable. Never wuld hv imagined it could happen, he was everything that I ever wanted, felt like match made in heaven,totally divine. . Then there was this loud silence.. It's dumb how I can't still lay a finger on what exactly happened. OK leme stop with the emotional talk. Have u ever broken up without a reason, oya more like without a tangible reason,or is there a stipulated duration for the love to last. Lol, it's indeed crazy. It still feels unreal... Can't stop wondering wah went wrong, everything seems blurry.when did love start dieing overnight?? I need to know how I got here!! If you must know the truth, understand that you brought yourself here. How? You fell for the trick of the guy I believe. What always seem too good to be true is always not true. But I wont say more than this as you have not revealed more for further analysis. Every love not trully founded in God is a love that has a confirmed date of termination not yet adviced. |
Politics › Re: Buhari Brought N2.7trn Investments From US Visit – Presidency by Lorddj4real(m): 11:43am On Aug 06, 2015 |
Thank God for democracy, a news paper would have been on the way to the slammers by now. Why report what you did not verify........hmmm |
Politics › Re: The Mistake Obama Made While Speaking About Nigeria by Lorddj4real(m): 11:38am On Aug 06, 2015 |
ControlX: The point is... everyone makes mistake. But when we review how APC and their supporters made so much media noise out of GEJ's little blunders, then u will understand that Buhari is about to get served! Nigeria is an interesting but peculiar nation, It is in Nigeria you are not permitted to make mistakes. Do so at your own peril. PDP or APC or what ever acronym they go by, which of them can one vouch for? Let mistakes be what they are, mistakes, and let us stop crucifying people for mistakes...... |
Culture › Re: Why Palace Is Yet To Officially Announce Ooni Of Ife’s Death by Lorddj4real(m): 11:30am On Aug 06, 2015 |
If the king is not dead, let them produce proof of life. If it is their tradition to lie that a man who is dead is still alive, then more greases to their elbow. Shikena.......... |
Politics › Re: Breaking: Boko Haram Elements Reach Out For Dialogue - Sahara Reporters by Lorddj4real(m): 5:15pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
Watching and waiting for the outcome.............. |
Politics › Re: Buhari Taking Credit For Jonathan’s Achievements, Says Rep. by Lorddj4real(m): 3:20pm On Jul 29, 2015 |
GEJ, I am sure if he has the opportunity to come back he would run for his dear life with all the comments on him and his government. Hmm, I overhead some average Nigerians discussing the past government and all I heard was thank God GEJ did not return because Nigeria as we know it would have grounded by now. And it has kept me thinking, Do we actually have the capacity to govern ourselves right or have we allowed ourselves to be so bastardized by bad leadership that for an average person in this country good governance seem like a mirage. Wether PMB will be able to deliver still remains to be seen because from the look of things there are so many hoping and even praying for him to fail so as to be able to say, we told you so. Fingers crossed here but hoping for the best for our dear nation. |
Politics › Re: House Crisis: Reps Adopt Apc’s Zoning Formular by Lorddj4real(m): 1:20pm On Jul 28, 2015 |
They should just get settled and start doing something meaningful. Haba...................... |
Politics › Re: El Rufai In Court To Sue The Union Over Report Of Declaration Of Assets..photos by Lorddj4real(m): 5:27pm On Jul 27, 2015 |
El-Rufai must have a good reason for going to court because only a foolish man with a sprinkle of madness, who has skeletons in his cupboard will rush to court in this manner. And again it may be the ripe time for justice to be meted out on those running this nation to the ground. Lets wait and see. The truth in a day has a way of catching up with a lie of twenty years. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Obama Arrives Kenya. by Lorddj4real(m): 7:07pm On Jul 24, 2015 |
A begging question, why has Obama refused coming to visit Nigeria? I am sure Naija is a threat to this guy. Someone should please inform him we only kill ourselves in the north and pull down ourselves with our mouth else where. And to top it all, we have been running a government for their pockets alone. |
Politics › Re: The Mistake Obama Made While Speaking About Nigeria by Lorddj4real(m): 1:31pm On Jul 23, 2015 |
Now if this is true, I wonder if American citizens will crucify Obama for the goof? |
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Science/Technology › Re: A Nigerian Man Turned His Bicycle Into An Aeroplane (Photo) by Lorddj4real(m): 2:13pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
Nigerian Airforce take note of where to make your next purchase. |
Nairaland General › Re: The Rate At Which Some Girls Live With Their Boyfriend by Lorddj4real(m): 1:52pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
What would make a reasonable cool headed young girl turn herself into a school wife on campus? Lack of self worth. If these young girls understood that they are actually valuable pearls of inestimable value and therfore priceless, cohabiting with a so called boyfriend will not be the case with them. |
Family › Re: Do I Give Up? by Lorddj4real(m): 1:36pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
When you give up, all hope is lost and without hope there is no chance left at all. If you believe in Gods word I will suggest you hold on to it for He said non shall be barren in the land, in other words, unless you give up, you will definetely have a kid. Trust in the Lord to give to you what He has promised and I can assure you, He would not fail you. God bless. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Shine Your Light by Lorddj4real(m): 1:25pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
Most often than not, what we do and our total life is a reflection of what is inside of us. No wonder many will not listen to what you have to say until they believe you practice what you preach. Evangelism is a total package, if you claim to be for Christ and your life style and acts do not speak it, there is a big problem for no one will respond, no matter how loud your preaching may be. In other words we cannot hide who we are since we are read like a book by all at all times. Let each day be for the Lord and rejoice in sharing the good news to all creature. |