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DrFunmisticGlow:
Aunty, now is not the time to be playing games. If you are interested, show Oga the green light. Have a straightforward discussion.

Do you like me?


Please where do you meet all these made in USA men, link a sister abeg.

Hhhmmm what happened to your SirjamesJnr, are you guys not together anymore?

Maynman:
I didn’t avoid anyone, what did you say about?
Did we welcome him the same way we welcomed usa president? The representative has been to Nigeria, if we check the record are we gonna see where the president has been to Nigeria? Since the representative is equal to president, it should also be noted that the USA president has been to Nigeria.

you don't get it, you are probably a kid. Goodbye, it was nice enlightening you but your sturbon spirit won't allow you to learn.

Maynman:
I have seen yours too, layman reasoning.
You can’t quote the section in the law where a representative is bestow the power of a president or even referred to in that event.

I just used Buhari and Osinbajo to explain, you didn't get , used US Ambassador and US president to.explain to you yet you didn't still understand . Sorry I can't help you further

Maynman:
Yes it is the right thing to do as the president. You can’t sign laws into power without the president.

How many bills has Vice President signed into law? Haven’t he represented Buhari begore?

Sorry why did you avoid the one I said about US ambassador?

Maynman:
They Can’t give the same respect to a boss and to a representative, why is it then called a boss and representative??
All what you are saying is not recognized in the law!!

ok, it's ok. I have seen your level of reasoning no need going further

Maynman:
No he didn’t, abba kyari had to take papers to him in London to sign papers into law.

so it was only Abba kyari taking papers to him in London to sign was the only thing you noticed during when Osibanjo took over. And Abba Kyari taking papers to London was it the right thing to do? do you think in a place where things works. That he can do such?

Maynman:
Bro, mystically the representative can’t sign anything into law in that event, He can’t command the armed forces inside the event hall. He doesn’t have any power over the senate or the country in the event hall.
Mystically he can’t say anything or do something else apart from what the president told him to do in that event, he is a puppet.

Oboy you don't get it,.do you? When Buhari was out of the country for months and he allowed Osinbajo to represent him, didn't Osinbajo do somethings in the capacity of the president at that moment. I hope i am not wasting my time with a kid here. Physically Osinbajo was the vice president but Mystically he was the president that time that he was representing Buhari as the president . This is simple na

Maynman:
Mystically they know that the president is not here and it’s the representative that’s talking in the event.
Mystically they know that the president is superior to the representative, and they won’t mistake him for representative another time.
Your analogy is so flawed.

How will they give the same respect and honor to a representative as the president

No you got it wrong, physically they know that the president is not there but Mystically they know that the president is there.

Maynman:
Don’t president of usa send his representatives to us here, do we treat him the same as president of USA? We give him the same gradeur?
If the representative dies in Nigeria right inside the event hall, will the USA president stop being president? Or will Nigerians say the USA president has died?

Physically the ambassador of USA to Nigeria is not the president of USA in Nigeria but Mystically he is the President of USA in Nigeria. If you don't get it, I don't know how else to explain it to you

Maynman:
Bro you can act to the limit your father gave you in that event, you can’t slap anyone and say you are representating your father? Can’t you see your analogy is flawed.
And right in that meeting they know you are not your father and there’s even certain words you can say.
The same respect they will give your father age mate they can’t give you small boy even though you are representing him. Where do you live that high profile people are given same respect as representative, why are they then called “high profile”??

" the word "Mystically" that I have been using is the same as mystery so I get why it's difficult for you to understand

Maynman:
Even in the entourage that will follow the president son is different from the one of the President. The grandeur of the president is different from REPRESENTATIVE, They can’t accord the same respect to a REPRESENTATIVE!
And you said it yourself, he is representing the president, he is not the SAME with the president.
He is a representative! You said it yourself.
The law doesn’t recognize REPRESENTATIVE as PRESIDENT.

Since you need everything to be explained to you to the most minute form. This scenero can work on any two persons , it mustn't be between a president only and his son, that was why I aswell used a governor to buttress my point. It can work between your father sending you to represent him in a village meeting, it can be a boss sending his secretary to represent him in a meeting. In that meeting every one sees him as the boss even though he is not the boss but representing the boss, the same respect that they would have been given to the boss will be given to him in that meeting. Period. So Mystically the boss is inside or him and they are one at that meeting but after the meeting he becomes ordinary secretary that he used to be but during that meeting that he is representing the boss, he is the boss. Again understand that word "Mystically ". I think your problem is you haven't witnessed much high profile events where people have to represent high profile personnels . To understand how this thing works

Maynman:
In they eyes of the law, he is nothing but a representative, he doesn’t have immunity even though he is REPRESENTING the president, he can’t call any SHOTS, he is just an ordinary representative, [b]everything he is saying at the event are the words of the president not the REPRESENTATIVE [/b]and which was commanded to him by the PRESIDENT.

This is another place you shows you don't understand what the word "Mystically " means. From the bolded it means physically it is the representative that is talking but Mystically it is the president that is talking . Showing that physically they are two persons at that time of the event but Mystically they are the same person at that time or the event. Like a said before try to understand what that word means it will help your understanding

Maynman:
Another flawed analogy is that the president can’t send his son to represent him in state affairs, his son is not part of the government, he can only send ministers or those in government.

You still don't get it, the analogy I used can be used for any body that represents him, be it his son, his wife, his deputy, his cabinet member etc. It doesn't matter who the person is, the analogy works for anybody but I used son because we were talking about God and his son Jesus. Try to broading your understanding when reading, you don't expect one to spell out everything for you before you get where the person is going .

Maynman:
When the son goes to represent the president, they will announce that the president is NOT here and is represented by a representative.

“THE PRESIDENT IS NOT HERE”

Then after announcing what next?. You haven't been to an occassion where a governor was invited and he sends a representative and after the organizers of the program announcing that the governor was represented. They will still refer the representative as the governor. If there is anything like governor's closing remarks. The representative goes and takes the remark. At that time he is taking that closing remarks he is taking it as the governor while the words are coming out of the representative mouth. What that means is, physically the closing remark is coming out of the representative mouth, but Mystically it is coming out of the governor's mouth even though he is not there. I think your problem is the word "Mistically" you can look it up in the dictionary so that you can understand what it means.

Maynman:
If Buhari sons go to an event instead of Buhari, they will announce that he was REPRESENTED by the president son so now we have father and son, that’s 2 different people, distinct to one another.
The things they will say to the president, they can’t say it to his sons as protocols.

And Buhari son can’t say or sign anything to law without consulting his father, the president. Buhari son can even be arrested as he does not have immunity as his father.

Oga try to read carefully before rushing to reply. I never said buhari's son is equally to his father, I specifically said in that particular occassion that he is representing his father, he will be accorded the same respect that would have been given to the father if he was the one that came. If they had book sharaton hotel for Buhari, that same hotel is what his son will stay, they they have reserved a gold plate to use and serve the president alone, even though he didn't come, they will still serve the representative with that same gold plate, what does this mean? It means at that point he is representing the president, he is one with the president that is why they will put him in the same hotel room reserved for the president , give him food in the same gold plate reserved only for the president because in that particular occassion he is being seen as the president even though the main person isn't present in the ocassions. Read slowly and carefully, so you can understand the point .

Maynman:
So positionally in the “mystic” world, superiors are equal to to their inferiors?

You keep mixing my words up. Note I am not talking about mystic word or anything. I am talking about the relationship between God and Jesus Christ. Let me use this analogy to clarify you but if you don't get it this last time, I don't think I can help you any further. Here we go. For instance let's let's use President Buhari and his son as an example they are two different entities right? One is the father while the other is the son. That is how you have God and Jesus, one the father while one the son. This was what I meant by physically/ Positionally the father is greater that the son. Then I said but "Mystically" they are the same. Now let me use this exampl to clarify what I mean by Mystically. If President Buhari is invited to an occasion and he couldn't go and he sends his son to go represent him, in that ocassion his son's presence there is as though the president is there himself. When the organizers wants to relate to him in that ocassions, they will say, M"President" ........... Even though he is being represented . So Mystically in that occassion, the president is inside the representative even though he can't be seen, and everything said in that occassion by the representative is taken as the word of the president even though is not the president saying it physically, so at that moment, in that occassion, the president and his representative are one and equal at that moment . So Mystically God is inside Christ and Christ is inside God, so as far as they are inside each other mystically, they are equal unless God removes himself from Jesus which will never happen. Where as the president being equal with his representative is for a short period of his representation in that occassion and after the ocassions they go back to who they used to be individually, it's not so with His and Christ because their is permanent and not temporal like the president and his son. I rest my case

Maynman:
What do you mean by “physically”? Is your god, physical?

You are confuse I don’t blame you, I blame Tertulian and emperor Constantine.

When I wrote that physically, I thought you will be confused as you now that was why I had to put"/Positionally" thinking you will get the point, but it's unfortunate, you don't get it

Maynman:
You are contradicting yourself, you can’t be equal to your inferior.

I don't think you know what "Mystically" means. So I will leave you with your understanding

OLAADEGBU:
"If Jesus is God, then why did He say that the Father was greater than He?"

See how the Scriptures easily resolve this issue at carm.org

To answer your question in the most simple way, Physically/Positionally God is greater than Jesus Christ but Mystically God is inside of Christ and Christ is inside of God so they are inseperable, making them to be one/equal.

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