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cococandy:
He’s just here to troll

And to get a high from engaging people that he would not have the pleasure to be associated with in real life.

cococandy:
Why didn’t he make America great the 1st four years

The one million dollar question.

Dvmbest story 2024. I hope you don’t aspire to be a writer.

cococandy:
Yep. That “we hate big government” rhetoric falls flat on its face if they’re over there supporting the govt meddling in women’s menstrual cycles and pregnancies

And even against the better knowledge of a woman’s healthcare providers. And who the hell will inform the authorities about the type of antibiotics the woman was prescribed and took?


”Under Erich Mielke, its director from 1957 to 1989, the Stasi became a highly effective secret police organization. Within East Germany it sought to infiltrate every institution of society and every aspect of daily life, including even intimate personal and familial relationships. It accomplished this goal both through its official apparatus and through a vast network of informants and unofficial collaborators (inoffizielle Mitarbeiter), who spied on and denounced colleagues, friends, neighbours, and even family members. By 1989 the Stasi relied on 500,000 to 2,000,000 collaborators as well as 100,000 regular employees, and it maintained files on approximately 6,000,000 East German citizens—more than one-third of the population.“

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Stasi

cococandy:
Meanwhile South Carolina just refiled their equal protection bill that seeks to regard zygotes, embryos and fetuses the same as humans. Such that if the pregnant woman does anything to risk the lives of the unborn, she’ll be prosecuted as if she walked into the neighbors house and shot them.

Anything could include, heavy duty jobs, air travel, certain antibiotics or other medical treatment intended for the woman that ends up harming the fetus. It’s left to the discretion of the judge who may not even know the difference between the fallopian tube and the ovaries.


Women who are grieving the loss of a wanted pregnancy will be further assaulted by this insulting charade of “seeking justice for the unborn”. Women in physically tasking jobs will be torn between quitting their jobs and depending on a man (if they even have a man) or staying and potentially facing a jury for endangering their unborn.

They’re aiming for American Afghanistan at this rate.


If you’re in South Carolina, call your representatives and ask them to vote against this bill. What a mess.

The same people who scream communists, support the establishment of a police state. Make it make sense.

cococandy:
If you guys let republicans talk long enough they’ll show you who they truly are.

We didn’t move to America and all of a sudden decide to abandon all traditional values in place of “wokeness” like they love to insinuate.

After you’ve had a few conversations with them, you’ll quickly come to realization that if they had their way, the country you moved to will rapidly adopt the negative aspects of the country you moved away from because of the kind of policies they support.

There’s something to be said for adopting the best aspects of each system but they don’t want to hear that.

Woke this, woke that. What are they? Comatose?

When you are dead, you don’t know that you‘re dead. All of the pain is felt by others.


The same thing happens when you are stupid.

cococandy:
Nothing he does will be in their favor.

He promised them he’ll eliminate the department of education and they cheered for him.

No further thought down the road about how this elimination will affect their title 1 schools which are mostly funded by federal money for lower income families and children with disabilities/IEPs.

Most of his voters are poor. So definitely will be affected by this. Some of their title 1 schools will have to merge or close for lack of funds. They think they’ll be able to get into private schools with vouchers. I have such bad news for them. It’s not even funny.

Nooooo, they will soon be tired of winning.

cococandy:
Omg I watched that episode too.

Basically the question was “so you voted Trump with hopes that he doesn’t do the things he promised to do?” And the man straight up answered yes.

But who are we to intervene in this their canon event?

At least they’ll get to own the libs. That’s far more important

My daily prayer is for Trump to make all of his promises come true.

Whether it helps his voters or not, they deserve all of it. And they will have to own it.

I‘m waiting for cheaper eggs.

Onegai, your attention is needed here.

budaatum:
I disagree! There is quite a lot of innovation that has been driven by the desire to improve the lot of the human race.

Marie Curie, for instance, did not get sick from radioactivity because of greed for profit. Even NASA did not spend billions to go to the moon because of greed for profit, but for bragging rights.


This, however, is somewhat true. If there is no investment, your money will just be worthless paper under your mattress or you'd consume it.


Or c) buy their own shares to inflate their share price to increase the CEOs pay, as has been done by many companies lately.

Ref:
https://wolfstreet.com/2020/03/31/estimates-about-the-collapse-of-share-buybacks-begin-to-emerge/


The only reason Astra Zeneca would set its price of Kakabra @ $50,000 per treatment course is because individuals don't mostly need to pay for it because they have insurance. If individuals needed to pay for Kakabra @ $50,000 per treatment course, Astra Zeneca would sell less Kabara and make less profit!


Do you not know that insurance companies will not pay Kakabra @ $50,000 per treatment course, but will negotiate a much lower price because they buy in bulk, and that this is them controlling price too?

Insurance companies might even find ways to refuse to pay for Kakabra for sime patients just as they refuse to pay you when you needed them to, which is another gorm if controlling their expenditure on Kakabra.


Smart UK then, to let Astra Zeneca rob Peter in USA to pay for Paul's healthcare in UK. And stupid of Peter in USA for allowing their tax money to pay for Paul's healthcare in UK instead of their money paying for their own healthcare.

Kind of proves the point, I suppose, that we are not asking for tax increases, but that tax money be spent right.

Astra Zeneca, I bet you, would also ensure they pay less tax in USA than anywhere else, and thereby maximise their exploitation of Peter in the name of their profit, which some of us are here against.


If you say USA citizens, I might be inclined to agree. Unfortunately, poor USA Peter dies because he is paying for UK Paul to live, and if I were racist, as in, only selfishly concerned about myself, then, yippee, but since I'm not, poor robbed dead Peter.

USA is not subsidising anywheres healthcare system, in my opinion. They are just letting themselves be exploited by dodgy Astra Zeneca.

Intelligent humans beings would innovate a healthcare system so they can not exploit America, but the selfish individualism and greed for profit in America would not encourage this I guess, just as many there oppose the feeding of poor kids and justified the use of unpaid labour of people with darker skin than their's.

Saving to read it again and again. Thank you Buda.

Gerrard59:
I don't know where you live, but companies, at least the good and major ones, share end-of-year bonuses with their employees across the positions. Whether there are tax benefits, I don't know as I cannot know every country's tax structures. But here is it: the executives would always out-earn their junior workers just as level 1 doctors cannot out-earn CMDs.

That is life for you.

Where have I written that they shouldn’t earn more or that everyone should earn the same?

IbeOkehie:
1) Where did this come from? Wow!

2) Investment is about DELAYED GRATIFICATION.

The USA has tax laws that incentivize long term investing for everyone.

With good planning and thrift, most Americans can afford $100 per month. Just taking lunch to work instead of buying from restaurant can save $30 per month. Smokers spend an average of $4K per year or something like that, many of them are low wage workers.

Most Nigerian immigrants working low skill, low wage jobs in the USA send at least $1200 per year to their families in Nigeria, so most Americans can definitely afford it.

This is why family is especially important, well informed parents can do this for their children and when they get to working age, they can continue with it. It's the same thing as buying a house, at the start it seems like a waste but the gains accumulate over time.

3) I'm no expert on anything. Consult an investment advisor.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

The Wolf of Wall Street has spoken.


You know as much about the stock market as the average high school student.

raumdeuter:
Most people advocating these sharing of resources of others, They eat daily, they know some people have not eaten in their city and havent offered their meals to them

They live in big houses, they havent invited homeless into their homes

But they want those rich owners who took risks most of us dont want to take, to share their profit with them. It sounds suspiciously envious. If you really believe it, share the little you have with others, open your own company and share the way you preached. But no. It is not me, Its those who are richer than me. Bring them down

I am not rich or close to being a billionaire, most likely will never be but I wont hate them because they do a lot of good to the world which I am a beneficiary of

You assume too much. Yet, you still haven’t been able to explain how the Shell company CEO‘s job is harder and riskier than that of someone who does the drilling. And how the former deserves to earn 344 times the amount the latter makes. Stick to the topic or build an altar to worship Elon Musk for all I care.

IbeOkehie:
No law in the USA prevents workers from buying shares in their company which would entitle them to a share of profits. This is significant - nobody prevents anyone from buying shares in any company. Why should there be a law forcing owners to share profits with non-owners?

Sweden is a widely admired country. Their dirty secret is that they're one of the most capitalist and free market oriented nations in the world, even more than the USA. Sweden used to be very socialist though, back in the 1970's they had this kind of law to reward workers and it caused disaster. Thereafter they abolished it and instituted free market reforms that made them prosperous as they are today. Sweden doesn't even have minimum wage laws.

American liberals love Sweden but don't care to know what Sweden does.

Just force owners to give workers profits. Very funny. How about the workers go start their own business?

Good Luck to Nigeria.

If I ask you now, what you had for breakfast, your answer will be stocks. How will someone who barely makes it from paycheck to paycheck invest in stocks? The same people who struggle to cover basic life expenses?

Care to share what your strategy is in investing in stocks? I want to minimize my risk and would like to hear your expert opinion on which stocks I should invest in.

Gerrard59:
So could you recommend a better system or the kind of reforms you would love to see? Where have they been implemented and how were the results?

Companies in their annual report calculate how much of their profits are shared with top executives and how much, if at all, with workers. And the tax code is enacted accordingly denying favorable tax treatment to a company unless a company has a worker inclusive profit-sharing mechanism in place.

That‘s just one example of how a government could possibly enforce a fairer system where extreme wealth concentration and exploitation are curbed.

Magnoliaa:
This. 😂

And I know that's something they like to do and say well - pointing out the flaws of one system does not automatically mean co-signing another system or saying that it the best thing since sliced bread.


I mean, "everyone" has to work. That's a given. Working is normal. The exchange of goods and services for money to live is like one bedrock of society. You cannot opt out of it, and if you do, there are consequences for it (unless you're a trust fund kid of course).

My own is just for them to admit that the very many downsides of a capitalistic society are man-made or artificial. Intentionally created. And that parroting the "hard work = success and higher income" and related-lines is fool proof.


Also, not everyone wants to take over the world and the solar system. No everyone wishes to live in an hypercapitalist state or be an oligarch (it is not even possible per their own beliefs), but at least standard living, healthcare, food, housing should be affordable to everyone. That some people do not have access to these or other little comforts of life, hobbies, is not (always) the personal/moral failing they are painting it out to be.

You’ve said it all. The last paragraph is beautifully written and I wholeheartedly agree. Take a boy whose parents are educated and in a loving marriage and compare his life chances to a boy‘s who grows up with alcoholics without education in a house where domestic violence is the order of the day. The first boy will have a much richer vocabulary by the time school starts and will be able to concentrate whereas the other one will struggle not to fall asleep having witnessed his parents fight all night. Equal chances indeed.

cococandy:
That’s why I don’t respond to half the stuff they post sometimes. They keep coming to conclusions that no one implied to. Or purposefully misrepresenting what is being said. Sigh

Otherwise you’re going to find yourself in a round about argument defending something you didn’t even say. 😂

I know. It‘s because it’s either black or white in their limited capacity to reason. You have to be a communist if you point out the flaws in capitalism. It’s one or the other or too complex for them to comprehend.

bemeruca:
Yeah, because how you define difficult may deviate from how everyone else defines it.

So go and be a CEO if you can. Then tell us if it's easy to get the job or not. Me and raumdeuter will wait.

You have just said what I have been saying all the time.

Thanks, I already have a job that I love.

Gerrard59:
The world today is much wealthier than during the '60s. There is less poverty today than 100 years ago. People live longer these days than 50 years ago. All thanks to human ingenuity and capitalism. Fine, in the face of declining birth rates, something has to change. But we should remember the past and now.

People in the 1900s would be terribly envious of the comforts and standard of living someone in 2024 enjoys. Capitalism did that. Humans are naturally greedy, and so far, that is the only economic system that caters to that trait. Unsurprisingly, it is the only economic system that has pulled more people out of poverty than any other economic system.

Nobody has argued the opposite.

bemeruca:
Work difficulty is not a measure of what one is paid.

That‘s what I have been saying from the beginning.

raumdeuter:
The CEO has already done the bigger part by getting to the top. If its easy you too become a CEO. Most CEOs came from nothing and poor, UHG CEO that was killed was not from a rich family

Yeah, right. The hardest work in the world.

raumdeuter:
Owners are taking the most risk, they are investing their money, And there is a risk their money vaporize away, So they decide what they get and more

It doesn’t refute what I‘ve said.

raumdeuter:
Aptitude is a combination of both nature and nurture. You are gifted and you apply yourself rigorously

The CEO and board determines the ratio. If its easy let the worker put his money down and start his own business so he can take the 300 times pay

No, you don’t necessarily have to ”apply yourself rigorosouly“. Ask my friend who is a Math lecturer. He will tell you that he didn’t work hard at all to get his degrees. Everything came easy to him. Naturally smart and gifted.

Or if it’s easier, let the CEO work at the assembly line. And give a child from a low income family inheritance to be managed after being privileged to attend top schools.

raumdeuter:
There are companies whose owners are the CEOs so they invest their own money or credit to get things running

There are CEOs appointed by shareholders to manage the money invested by shareholders

Exactly, and so the owners can decide to exploit or not. That‘s the argument I was making since before you decided to jump on my mentions.

bukatyne:


Do you understand how compensations and benefits work?

Do you understand the actual job of a CEO?

No but I‘m sure you’re going to educate me now and then explain how your questions answer mine.

budaatum:
Only to those who reserve it I hope.

I hope so too.

SKhanmi:
They only try that with men they feel they can manipulate or use that time to get back at some men for previous wrongs.

Even the so called midnight cravings etc, is controllable.

If your wife knows you will just hiss & turn to the side, She would think twice before she tries to send you on any fools errand at impossible times

Having a pregnancy is not a license to act like a baby.

Tell your wife.

Attach a watermelon to your belly and water bottles to your arms and legs and stroll around. Let’s see who is weird.

budaatum:
The intellectual level of the conversation on this thread has grown way past that which a stupid idiot can follow and you now feel left out and irrelevant as most have learnt to ignore you.

Up your game, and mind!

You are wicked.

Congratulations! Welcome baby!

raumdeuter:
It's the same in many cases. The harder the work is, the harder it is to get people to fill it and the more compensation they get to do what most people either can't do, don't want to do or don't have the aptitude to do

Is aptitude something people work (hard) for or is it something they are gifted with? Is a student who is naturally smart at math working harder than a student who struggles?

And who determines that a CEOs work is worth 300 times more than the worker‘s who actually produces something of value?