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undisputed25:
Makydebbie have you read when breath becomes air by Paul Sudhir Arul Kalanithi?
When you study his lifestyle very well, you'll discover life is purposeless to an extent
But his ability to utilise his limited time on earth writing that book made him a legend forever.
He's the neurosurgeon I was referring to in my little write up.... WELTSCHMERZ THAT'S MY GENERAL VIEW ABOUT LIFE

No I haven't. I'll try and see if I can get the book.
Life is purposeless, but we're expected to find purpose?

Thegamingorca:
Good too

Okay, thanks for checking up.

Hmmm...

You are speaking to me right here, and it's clear. So in essence, we should live to impact. Even though life doesn't make it easy with its unexpected twist and turns. What I don't understand is why life won't give us enough time to achieve our dreams and leave legacies behind for the next generation ( I don't want to understand anymore because it'll lead to endless questions.)
Life is meaningless but it's our job to make a meaning out of it.

You're saying the goal is to be useful and contribute positively, maybe that's where we'll find happiness.

Thegamingorca:
How you?

I'm okay, you?

Solstar:
When I say it is a Game, I mean it. People do not know it. The most important commodity here is your Life followed by Time. Do not trade any of these for anything. And do not surrender your Life and/or Time for another. Use your Time wisely, do not work for another. Create your wealth from scratch and waste not a kobo, set aside a fraction for your daily form of enjoyment.

That is how to beat the matrix. I just gave you the code.

Golden.

Thanks.

undisputed25:
I mentioned you recently... I think you can read my post now...

Here?

I've seen it, I'm reading through now.

imustsaymymindo:
It is and would always be. So, let's just live and enjoy life.

Okay.

princfred:
Extreme poverty or failures, lack of passion, love of man and God can only make one think like this.

But it's true.

You read a story where a step-dad raped his 12 years old daughter? I've read the story too and that particular rape was horribly sick!

You're a stinking pedophile.
A pervert.
A hypocrite.

killsmith:
Birth is a curse.

Existence is pain.

Life is a prison.

Relationships, morality, ambitions, goals etc are all Illusions created to take our minds of the fact that life has no meaning.

True.

Bishopsgate:
Thank God!! A worthy thread finally!!

My brother I will not claim to have all the answers but I can at least share my own knowledge and insights with you and I hope they will help you.

Before I do I will like to let you know that you are at the precipice of self realization and revelation. The events and the thoughts that brought you to this point were all part of your journey to self realization and revelation of your true essence.

To understand the meaning or value of life on earth you would need disabuse your mind of a lot of things you have been thought by society, parents, religion, schools and all worldly influences perceived by the 5 senses. This is because life is spiritual and cannot be perceived in its true form by all of these senses.

In the first place, you need to understand that YOU predate your "life" on earth. Life is simply the time that you spend on earth. It is not the totality of your existence or being.

"Life" as it is known on earth is considered to begin from conception in the womb but counting starts the minute you are born into this world. If you continue to believe this calculation to be true then you will never understand the value life.

Before you or anyone on this earth was born he/she existed in spirit and lived in the spirit realm. This sounds far reaching but even the major religions hint at it but they continue to keep stuff from people because it makes them easier to control and keeps this world moving. Revealing the truth will kill the world as we know it. And this is why it is written that my people perish for the lack of knowledge.

Before you were born you existed and had your own name. And that is why it was written :
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"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations."[/[/b]i]

All life comes from God Almighty. God is a spirit and we are all his children. Spirit begets spirit. You come into this world (life) with nothing except your flesh (body) and spirit but at death you leave with only your spirit. The flesh (no matter how beautiful and perfect it was) is left here on earth to rot away.

Life is a degraded form of our true existence and form to allow for a testing of the spirit for TRUTH. All the travails and challenges experienced by all men are only possible in this degraded form. Poverty, sadness, barrenness difficulty are all problems of the flesh and there is a reason why God allowed it all.

Your spirit man belongs to God as you are part of him and came from him. The Devil, the prince of this world owns the world (please note I said the world not the earth - they are not the same) and has permission to o test all of God's children in a bid to ensure that they become tainted and unable to return to God as God is pure and cannot behold sin.

Have you never asked why God has continued to allow all the evil and wickedness in the world when he could put it all to an immediate end? He is not wicked or heartless to just ignore his own children. Our life is a test to see if indeed we will do God's will when tested.
In the spirit everything is in black and white, good and bad only. There is no in between. He is The Truth and the Devil is the Father of the lie as written.

All our senses make all the tests possible because they have the capacity to portray the lies of the devil. This senses are the reason why the Fisherman sank when he realized he was walking on water. His whole being and senses told him it is impossible to walk on water.

These senses are man's greatest enemy in building faith. When Christ said we would tell mountains to move if we had faith like a mustard seed did you think he was lying? With Faith comes the understanding of the Truth and with that all things are possible.

So my brother seek God personally and believe me you will find him because he is in you and talks to you. It's is simply our sins (doing things against God's will due to weaknesses of our current degraded state in the flesh) that separate us from him.

One way to improve your closeness to God is through Fasting. Fasting weakens the body. Once the body (flesh) is weak the spirit is strenghtened. Pray and confess your sins to him and ask him to strengthen you and guide you. Do your prayers between the hours of 12 and 3 am he will speak to you through the gifts he already imbued you with at the point he allowed you come for this test.

The story of Job is underrated. Note that even after his fall the devil still came to heaven and even responds to God on his actions on earth. Note carefully that it was God himself that mentioned Job to the devil as he was pleased with Job's conduct on earth. Also note that every evil test thrown at Job by the devil was only possible with and to the extent of God's permission granted him.

This why it is written that:

" No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it"

The value of life is only obtained in completing this test of life successfully. The value is only to be found in the spirit which you will become when you die. Life is a test and also a gift as it allows you the opportunity to return on to the father and see the true life he desires for is all, no poverty, Nigerian hunger, no sadness where all evil and falsehood are not found.

Hmm, deep thanks.

imustsaymymindo:
Even the wisest man ever lived felt like this at a point. There is really no meaning to life. And as Solomon said, the best thing we can do in life is to eat, drink and enjoy work and then again that is vanity.

Lol, confusing.

DreamersVille24:
Hi Debbie,

The essence of life is one question which has troubled mankind from the beginning of time up until today...

I have also pondered on this and have come to the conclusion that...

Life is to be enjoyed, to be savoured, to be LIVED.

To LIVE is to LOVE... and to LOVE is to LIVE...

I believe the life purpose of every human being is to affect people around them and the world at large in positive ways... To impact and impart as much as possible before the end of one's life... Positive impacts and impartations...

Remember, no matter how many years one lives or will live, those years pass by in moments, seconds and minutes... Live in every of those moments, revel in them, be immersed in them and when your time to go comes, you'll go knowing you did all the positive things you could, to all the people you could at all the times you could...

A very nice thread and I hope you understood my post...

Enjoy the rest of your day today...

Yes I understood, thanks sir.

abbaapple:
I have so many things to share with you about your write up! Same question make me think Notting is Real in this Life!

Feel free to share.

yorex2011:
This question has plagued humans since days of old.

I personally believe, Life (nature) has given everybody what he needs to be happy. Where we get it wrong is when we search for things that we have already.

Almost like using your phone torch to search for the phone itself (we know how frustrating that can be).

You just need to allow yourself to discover yourself. There's a Japanese concept called Ikigai, the French call it raison d'être. Basically means your reason for being.

The summary of that concept is attached in the image below. Everyone has an Ikigai, some spend their entire lives not discovering it.

Some discover it early and change the world, as someone once said, every human being wants to be happy first above all. What we don't realise is that happiness is relative and different for every individual.

When you come to that level of mental balance and self realization, you'd come to see that nothing fazes you and you are more powerful than you give yourself credit for...

Hmm very deep. Thanks.

Chuukwudi:
Get a copy of the work "In the Light of Truth - The Grail Message" by Abdrushin. Therein lies all the answers you need about life and existence.

If you desire to have a discussion, you can hit me up.

Chukwudiajoku@gmail.com

Okay thanks.

Solstar:
makydebbie,

Life is a Simulated Cosmic Game. It is a game for Spirit to play and enjoy different characters, which are the Avatars. The one you know as ego. You see, Existence is an Enigma. <<<<<Sentience, Unconscious, Conscious, SubConscious and Super Conscious on the levels of the Matrix>>>>>>.

You see, your conscious mind is questioning the irrationality of a 120 Earth Years apportionment for Consciousness to become aware of itself and Begin to Play the Games without a mistake.

Do not kill yourself even though you have nothing to loose, after all, you will still die, but why cut it short when you can enjoy the ride.

While at it, remember, that all the laws and commandment were set up to make you suffer, it is the default code of the 3D Physical Plane vibrating at 7.83Hz, the problem is that the plane of existence has been bombarded with Radio Frequency/EMF radiations so bad that you lost connection to the Divine and the Religions are there to dump you down and take your money and present you a mental Heaven, no planet mentioned that will host Heaven, they Lie, they manufacture hell too.

It is a Game friend, just enjoy the ride.

Hmm, thanks.

snubish:
Great thread, Makydebbie. You deserve #accolades. So many good answers I'm sure you have learnt a lot.

Yea, I've but some comments have got me confused. Some people say we don't have any purpose to live for and some say otherwise.

I haven't been here in a while but this brought me out. I can see from your other topics that you are a thoughtful melancholic person. They are prone to depression and seeing things from the dark side, not necessarily the true side. But if anything I myself have learnt from this thread that life means several things to different people.

This question has been asked and is being asked by the wise people across the ages since time immemorial, so no surprises here. It may or may not have an answer.

I wish you luck, and a good life madame. Everyone must determine their own truth, and their own happiness in this short life. I found my meaning in being the best I could be at every instant, to everyone. If I succeed, I succeed, if I don't, I tried hard. May God bless and be with you.

PS: there's a lot of suffering in this country you wonder if it gives us a proper mindset to ask questions, then you remember there are many countries still worse. I assume you reside in Nigeria.

I'm a pessimist and a realist.
I get your point, we should all find our individual meanings and make most of it?

No I'm not a Nigerian, so I'm not based there.

cruchenutii:
You are actually smart for someone that age.

Thank youuuuuuuuuu.

But where did you see the age?

blinxx:
Hi..
There is a reason for life. You are here to fulfill a purpose and if you don't find or know what that purpose is, then life seems meaningless.

You have asked a very good question. It's not just about having Christ.
I will advice you take out time to read this book 'The purpose driven life' by Rick Warren. Believe you me, it will shape your perspective and help you find that purpose and give your life a better meaning.

God bless.

Thanks sir.

daneni1:
Hi Makydebbie,

I want to believe all these is all in the mind. Though each and everyone of us will die one day, dats the only certain thing on earth. However, b4 death comes knocking, there are lots of things to be happy abt.

one thing I have come to realise is DAT, each time we wear our problems on our face and worry abt dem each passing day, dats wen it weigh us down and eat us of our joy and happiness.

I once read a book, I have forgotten the author tho, its titled "game of life and how to play it".

The author sees life as a game, she believes that if we can have negative tot in our heart and dey come to past, y can't we be positive also for it to become a fruition in our lives.

There is no one without challenges, our attitude towards life is all that matters.

My motto has always been, "nothing is worth worrying over"

Also, each time we act like our challenges don't exist, dats wen we win but d more we meditate it in our mind, it becomes a stronghold, pulling us down always.

So life is a game we're all going to lose?

undisputed25:
Lost my best friend during NYSC. He was even part Of NCCF workerz... Since then have been asking lot of questions no one can answer.
Don't worry tomorrow I'll share the little I could. So we can rub minds together.
How are you doing?

I'm okay I guess. This has been troubling me for a while now. I didn't understand the essence of living life.

nowpresence:
It's all about appreciating life and all what she gives to us and also accepting death. Death is a passage. People were here before you came and you are also going to give way for people to come.
My dear just enjoy what you can and when death comes you go.
Begin to live your life in the present. Be present.

Okay sis.

awoo47:
pray u get delivered from ur troblues soon

Amen.

AyamConfidence:
to tell you the truth....I think it gets better....you just have to believe and work towards a better life

It might not go as planned at first but as long as you do not give up HOPE.....I'm positive it'll get better

Lol, okay. Thanks.

Newbeginnings:
Life has no purpose, just look at us human beings, believing that we are better than animals and yet we die just the same way.

In the end the same bacteria eat our bodies and we turn to nothing... so where are we headed.. Where are we going? After enjoying lots of fun at the age of 20, we age into beings that can barely move at the age of 70...

Why is life like that...

Life is not actually like that, but that is how Human beings think life is... What is life actually, why do you need air to survive, what is your consciousness.

To be truthful, you need to first understand what you are and who you are before you can understand who you are... remember that you are not makydebbie or debbie or deborah or whatever your name is... That name is who your parents say you are and not who you actually are...

We are born and the next thing we believe is that girls are supposed to do this or do that.. who taught us to do all that.. Who started life and who started the rules... Why do we live the way we do... Why are their religions and everything.

For you to understand the purpose of life, you have to actually have a broad mind. You have to forget everything you believed....

Why can't you wear blue, black, green, yellow, red and white together. Because people will say it is color riot... so is that what life is all about living for other people...

Why can't you wear tattered clothes outside, because of what people will think... Is life all about other people or about you...

That is why we can't learn the true purpose of life, because we keep thinking about ourselves, we keep thinking of why we have to struggle...

The universe is so large, have you asked yourself, why there are so many animals in the world or so many fishes in the waters, why do we need so many species... Why does life exist everywhere...

Where is life going to and why does it exist in the first place... Why do I have to grow, go to school and get a job and work till I age, then give birth and my kids repeat the process... is this how life is or is this how humans beings want life to be... For you to understand the purpose of life you need to stop thinking about how humans beings live their life and start asking about why everything exists and where everything is going to... Why do the clouds exists and why are they here..

These questions are the beginning of understanding

Okay, thanks.

alpontif:
What a wonderful question. I am truly pleased to come across this question this evening.....it is a sign that you are heading towards enlightenment. To answer your question, I want you to keep something in mind, and that is; Wisdom , when pursued to its utmost extent, becomes foolishness. I will illustrate that point further in this answer.

The short answer is philosophically speaking, Life is pointless. Everything is pointless. Yes.

If you read Ecclesiastes very well, you will understand the true nature of our existence. It is completely pointless, and that fact has serious implications for the mindset we have, and how we live this pointless life.

The implication is you either have to become a Stoic hedonist, or an ascetic.

Live life, enjoy it, pursue pleasure, if you get it , fine, if you don't fine, if you are rich fine, if not, fine.....in the long run...nothing matters...we will all die and the universe will grind on.

Where in ecclesiastes?
Thanks for contributing. God bless.

peacengine:
Hahaha I will like to see your pix fine girl. Life is never ending. Do you think the soul dies? Your soul is immortal and that is where life truly finds its purpose. In the physical, you can do well to leave a legacy behind by good works but life continues after

Thanks. You're right here.

Barywhyte:
Hello Op. somebody earlier attempted to answer your query.

Who is your creator? who created you? Ask him that question. He has all the answer.

Hmm..
Okay then, thanks.

UDUJ:
Your question is unique; as is any question pondering on the meaning or purpose of life.

The essence of life is one’s innate characteristics, quality and substance of thoughts and actions. A person of the aforesaid qualities, generally, radiates personality flair. Let me give an example of such person from history:

His name was Goethe a German philosopher, poet and other attributes. In his own life he experienced much sorrow, but gradually he gained an inner command over life’s difficulties and attained a detachment and calm which brought peace to him. Napoleon first saw him when he was over sixty. As he stood in the doorway, there was something in his face and figure, an untroubled look and bearing so full of dignity, that Napoleon exclaimed: “Voila un homme!” meaning (Look) “What a man!”

Whoever acquires detachment and calm following difficult time may emerge a person with essence of life spreading fragrance of his/her qualities. There are many dignitaries in this category, but the above just flashed in my mind.

So in summary, to me the essence of life is To Know Thyself. For me "know thyself" means to know your authentic self, true you or sincere core. Name it however you'd like to.

It's to know your real:

Goals (what do you want in life?)
Values (why do you want to achieve your goals?)
Style (how do you want to achieve your goals?)
From here one can move towards their dreams and have happy, fulfilled life.

In my opinion, it's not enough to "know thyself", you need to "be thyself". You might find out your true want but still doing a job you hate. You've got to have guts to follow your heart. You will thank yourself later for this.

Sweetheart, thank you. Your post is wonderful.

Jamie90:
Are you trying to be funny? Being a sickler is a challenge but certainly not fun. In essence, not all challenges are fun.

Life would certainly be less fun if we had our way with everything. Let's take for a example, an undergraduate trying to make First Class. Making First Class becomes a challenge while reading and working hard becomes fun. If the latter wasn't a prerequisite for the former, then you'd certainly agree with that school wouldn't be fun anymore.

Another typical example was the challenges faced by African nationalists. They derived some sort of fulfilment in working towards freeing us from the shackles of the colonial masters.

Simply put, without challenges, life wouldn't be worth living.
Both co-exist

Can you ever be objective when quoting me? First you called me feeble because according to you, I refused to see all challenges as fun. I asked a question that has been bothering me. It makes me human, inquisitive, wanna understand what this life is all about. I'm not feeble.

I used the sickler as an example for you because not all challenges are fun. Because you didn't make it clear in your post that all challenges aren't fun. Thanks for your advice.

Sugar97:
We will eventually die someday but I do not believe life ends at death. Neither does the reality of death make life (or living) worthless.

I think the most important question would be "how did you live your life"? People like Mother Teresa and Martin Luther etc. still live in the hearts of many. They are still a source of inspiration to many even though they are dead.

Your goals, accomplishments, dreams etc. need not be useless after you are dead, they can inspire many too.

I don't know what is you're going through specifically but I hope you find strength

Cc Makydebie

Thanks darling.