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Christianity EtcRe: Queen Of CYON Lagos Archdiocese: Right For Churches To Organize Beauty Pageants? by Mario9: 4:12pm On Oct 27, 2019
I think we need to understand this post very well. The Church only organized a competition called Queen of CYON (Catholic Youth Organisation of Nigeria, Lagos branch). To become a queen of CYON you are meant to compete with other youths on bible quiz, intellectual debates, knowledge of Church's doctrines, table etiquette, cooking competition etc.

The lady on this post won that competition and she is to compete in a state (Bayelsa State) organized beauty pageant. I think the person who posted this thread confused us with his own understanding. It is better to know what being Queen of CYON entails.



ikorodureporta:
The pic below shows a girl that came from a Catholic beauty pageant, to bikini flaunting MGBN


I don't know why the Catholic priests allow these nonsense!
Christianity EtcRe: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Mario9: 4:15pm On Dec 13, 2017
Acidosis:
1. Apostle Paul requested for money

(1 Corinthians 16:2, NIV)

Apostle Paul particularly instructed the people to set aside a sum of money that is proportionate to their income. This was a convenient way of collecting the money, that has now become a trend among Christians every Sunday. Is Paul a fat-fed and corrupt Apostle?

2. Jesus watched as the "Sheeple" widow dropped money for corrupt religious leaders but He did not free the "Sheeple"

- Mark 12:41-


At the time Jesus observed the widow's offering, the treasury was managed by corrupt religious leaders, but Jesus did not free the sheeple widow. Nowhere was it mentioned that Jesus instructed her not to give her last penny! Instead Christ was interested in blessing her seed. Ask yourself, would Jesus partake in the #freethesheeple movement if He and the Apostles were around today?

3. If your Pastor sow spiritual things to you, it is right and appropriate to give him those material things you can afford, and Yes, that includes a Jet!

- 1 Corinthians 9:9-14
My friend, these are very good points to support the need to give to the church and her ministers. However, a critical look at the entire situation shows that the problem is not really the payment of tithe or offering to the church, but the lifestyle of some of our pastors which does not correspond to the reality of the people they claimed to be leading. For instance, imagine a pastor of a village church where many of the people are peasant farmers, and the pastor in question is using Hummer Jeep as his personal car. My brother, moderation is the key word – I am not talking of a subjective moderation but an objective one. They are public figures, they are expected to use the public yardstick to judge their lifestyle. They are expected to live a life of simplicity. 1 Tim 3: 1-7 outlined the kind of lifestyle expected of all church leaders, especially verse 7 that says “ it is necessary that he be held in good repute by outsiders...”. If you also examine all the men of God in the scripture, non of them lived above the people they ministered to. My brother, i think this is problem many of the pastors have.
Another point is the issue of gifts from individuals. Not all gifts are acceptable and not all acceptable gifts are useable especially when considering their lifestyle. There are some gifts that are contrary to their lifestyle, not that they can’t use them but because they may be a cause of scandal to others. Remember the words of St. Paul, if eating meat can cause the downfall of my brother, i will never eat meat anymore, rather than cause my brother's downfall. (1 Corinthians 8:13). This is my opinion anyway.
Christianity EtcNigerian Pastors, Money And The Gospel Of Christ - Fr. Omolade by Mario9(op):
OF PASTORS, MONEY AND THE GOSPEL OF JESUS
There is a popular saying that “the dog that will be lost will not hear the whistle of the hunter.” *The bible warns us many times, to preach the gospel freely and not do it for sordid money. (1Pet 5:2). Some translations say, preach the good news not out of greed, or for base gain, or for filthy lucre, or for defiled profit. If we attend to the mission of preaching the Gospel, with dedication and sincerity, money will not be a problem because a labourer also deserves his wages. (Luke 10:7; 1 Tim 5:18)

However, today, the preaching of the Gospel by supposedly Christian pastors has become a lucrative million-dollar business and many are rushing headlong into it and into perdition. Be warned!

The row about tithe is not yet doused because pastors have couched it with the garment of fear instead of true love of God. Paul reminds us that perfect love casts out fear. (1 John 4:18) If you give out of fear, it is useless, if you pay your tithe because of fear of not getting the reward, it is useless. If you pay your tithe because a pastor threatened you, it is useless. Freely, you received, freely you should give back to God, as Paul reminds us, “God loves a cheerful giver.” (2 Cor 9: 6-7)

Before the uproar about tithe, Christians were faced with the scandal of pastors who have become obscenely rich to the detriment of their members. It was a scandal because, sheep were dying of kwashiorkor while pastors were riding Hummer Jeeps and buy private Jets. Schools were supposedly constructed for the poor from the money extorted from the poor, but only the rich can afford the tuition. That scandal has not been effaced, and it is still a blithe on our collective identity as children of God.

Jesus told us to build up structures for ourselves in heaven, where there are no thieves to rob or moth to destroy (Mt. 6:19-20). Nigerian pastors have become adept as building earthly mansions in the ocean of poverty. Remember the Psalmist said, “they will leave their wealth to others and the grave will be their home.” (Ps 49,10ff) Prophet Jeremiah castigated the kings and princes of his time who lived off the poor. The same is happening today. They need to be reminded “this hoard of yours, to whom shall it belong?” (Luke 12: 13-21)

The mission of Jesus is clear. Read again Luke 4:16-18: “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom to the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favour.” The Church has no other mission, but the mission of Jesus. As someone said, the Church has no mission, it is the mission of Jesus that has the Church. Ask yourself, which Church is working to realize this mission?

The poor are paramount and we need to set them free instead of enslaving them. We must empower them instead of despoiling them. What is the difference between many churches today and the Ponzi schemes? They are all network businesses and the unsuspecting ultimately pay a great price – they are always at the receiving end. This is not the Gospel practice handed down by Jesus. The mission of Christ is one of compassion, he went out to meet the people and uplift them from their misery, pain and poverty.

What is the way forward? The solution is simple. Church collection, tithes, donations, etc., whatever name we call them must meet certain criteria. They must be given freely, and joyfully. The giving must not be conditional, that is: “I will pay my tithe, so that God can bless me.” Job has taught us a lesson, He says, “Even if he kills me, I will still love him.” (Job 13:15) Even if you get nothing from God, (which is impossible) you are obligated to contribute to his mission. This is what is called a faithful giving. You are giving because you want to be faithful to the mission of God not because a pastor threatens you or would not pray or bless you until you have given.

Furthermore, only the best is good for God, hence Jesus praised the woman who gave two small coins, because she gave her all, not just 10% or tithe, or 50%. She gave everything she had to live on. In this giving, she surrendered not just her resources to God, but herself. This is a total giving? Total giving cannot be forced, cannot be demanded by a pastor, it must be preached as the truth taught by God and people must be left to make their own decisions. Even in the Acts of the Apostles, where this was practiced, it was still voluntary. When two of the early community members pretended to have given their all and yet kept parts back, they faced the punishment of God.

In Nigeria of today, we do not need a stadium size church anywhere when people don’t have good roads. We do not need any one kilometer or three-kilometers Auditorium when people are jobless and have nowhere else to turn to. We need hospitals to provide health care and lead people to life in abundance, even in its material dimension. We need schools to lift people out of ignorance and vocational training centres to develop much needed man-power. Where are our churches in this regard?

It has been said that “He who loses wealth loses much; he who loses a friend loses much more, he who loses faith loses all.” We must not allow this to happen to our people. Many of our people don’t believe in God, they believe in their pastors and the bubble will burst one day because many so-called pastors are wolves in sheep clothing – with no inner core, no value but only ephemeral. When that happens even the true church will suffer. Now is the time to talk, but let your live do the talking.

In the final analysis, Jesus is deserving of the best of our life because what is it that we have that has not been given to us? If you become engrossed on the 10% debate, then you are a minimalist, not a lover of Jesus. If conditional tithe is your specialty, then you have not risen with Christ and embraced his new covenant. Tithe is good, but it is an elementary demand for infants in the faith. It is good if you want to pay your tithe, but please remember that it is just a starting point. Jesus upbraided the Pharisees as hypocrites who paid their tithes of spices, mint, dill and cumin, yet neglected the more important matters of the law- justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. (Mt. 23:23) So pay your tithe, but also do charity. To the pastors what does the Lord asks of you? Prophet Micah says it well: “He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” (Micah 6:cool

The answer is not blowing in the wind when we apply this to the situation in Nigeria today. Where is mercy when sick people are not cared for and pastors fly Jets around the world? How are they walking humbly with God when Jet flying is their hallmark or when they are surrounded by bull-like guards? Where is justice when shepherds live lusciously and the poor go hungry and our youths are jobless in their thousands. Where is justice when pastors no longer fraternize with the poor and the weak, but associate only with the powerful and the rich? When Jesus comes back again, would he find faith true faith in Nigeria? This is my humble contribution to enlighten Christians and all lovers of truth.


Rev. Fr. Richard Omolade.
THANKS FOR READING.
Christianity EtcPastors, Money And The Gospel Of Jesus by Mario9(op): 9:19am On Dec 04, 2017
OF PASTORS, MONEY AND THE GOSPEL OF JESUS
There is a popular saying that “the dog that will be lost will not hear the whistle of the hunter.” Many of us are in good company in this regard. Jesus called Judah and among other things greed, lust for money lead him astray and he couldn’t persevere in following the Lord. The bible warns us many times, to preach the gospel freely and not do it for sordid money. (1Pet 5:2). Some translations say, preach the good news not out of greed, or for base gain, or for filthy lucre, or for defiled profit. If we attend to the mission of preaching the Gospel, with dedication and sincerity, money will not be a problem because a labourer also deserves his wages. (Luke 10:7; 1 Tim 5:18)

However, today, the preaching of the Gospel by supposedly Christian pastors has become a lucrative million-dollar business and many are rushing headlong into it and into perdition. Be warned!

The row about tithe is not yet doused because pastors have couched it with the garment of fear instead of true love of God. Paul reminds us that perfect love casts out fear. (1 John 4:18) If you give out of fear, it is useless, if you pay your tithe because of fear of not getting the reward, it is useless. If you pay your tithe because a pastor threatened you, it is useless. Freely, you received, freely you should give back to God, as Paul reminds us, “God loves a cheerful giver.” (2 Cor 9: 6-7)

Before the uproar about tithe, Christians were faced with the scandal of pastors who have become obscenely rich to the detriment of their members. It was a scandal because, sheep were dying of kwashiorkor while pastors were riding Hummer Jeeps and buy private Jets. Schools were supposedly constructed for the poor from the money extorted from the poor, but only the rich can afford the tuition. That scandal has not been effaced, and it is still a blithe on our collective identity as children of God.

Jesus told us to build up structures for ourselves in heaven, where there are no thieves to rob or moth to destroy (Mt. 6:19-20). Nigerian pastors have become adept as building earthly mansions in the ocean of poverty. Remember the Psalmist said, “they will leave their wealth to others and the grave will be their home.” (Ps 49,10ff) Prophet Jeremiah castigated the kings and princes of his time who lived off the poor. The same is happening today. They need to be reminded “this hoard of yours, to whom shall it belong?” (Luke 12: 13-21)

The mission of Jesus is clear. Read again Luke 4:16-18: “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom to the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favour.” The Church has no other mission, but the mission of Jesus. As someone said, the Church has no mission, it is the mission of Jesus that has the Church. Ask yourself, which Church is working to realize this mission?

The poor are paramount and we need to set them free instead of enslaving them. We must empower them instead of despoiling them. What is the difference between many churches today and the Ponzi schemes? They are all network businesses and the unsuspecting ultimately pay a great price – they are always at the receiving end. This is not the Gospel practice handed down by Jesus. The mission of Christ is one of compassion, he went out to meet the people and uplift them from their misery, pain and poverty.

What is the way forward? The solution is simple. Church collection, tithes, donations, etc., whatever name we call them must meet certain criteria. They must be given freely, and joyfully. The giving must not be conditional, that is: “I will pay my tithe, so that God can bless me.” Job has taught us a lesson, He says, “Even if he kills me, I will still love him.” (Job 13:15) Even if you get nothing from God, (which is impossible) you are obligated to contribute to his mission. This is what is called a faithful giving. You are giving because you want to be faithful to the mission of God not because a pastor threatens you or would not pray or bless you until you have given.

Furthermore, only the best is good for God, hence Jesus praised the woman who gave two small coins, because she gave her all, not just 10% or tithe, or 50%. She gave everything she had to live on. In this giving, she surrendered not just her resources to God, but herself. This is a total giving? Total giving cannot be forced, cannot be demanded by a pastor, it must be preached as the truth taught by God and people must be left to make their own decisions. Even in the Acts of the Apostles, where this was practiced, it was still voluntary. When two of the early community members pretended to have given their all and yet kept parts back, they faced the punishment of God.

In Nigeria of today, we do not need a stadium size church anywhere when people don’t have good roads. We do not need any one kilometer or three-kilometers Auditorium when people are jobless and have nowhere else to turn to. We need hospitals to provide health care and lead people to life in abundance, even in its material dimension. We need schools to lift people out of ignorance and vocational training centres to develop much needed man-power. Where are our churches in this regard?

It has been said that “He who loses wealth loses much; he who loses a friend loses much more, he who loses faith loses all.” We must not allow this to happen to our people. Many of our people don’t believe in God, they believe in their pastors and the bubble will burst one day because many so-called pastors are wolves in sheep clothing – with no inner core, no value but only ephemeral. When that happens even the true church will suffer. Now is the time to talk, but let your live do the talking.

In the final analysis, Jesus is deserving of the best of our life because what is it that we have that has not been given to us? If you become engrossed on the 10% debate, then you are a minimalist, not a lover of Jesus. If conditional tithe is your specialty, then you have not risen with Christ and embraced his new covenant. Tithe is good, but it is an elementary demand for infants in the faith. It is good if you want to pay your tithe, but please remember that it is just a starting point. Jesus upbraided the Pharisees as hypocrites who paid their tithes of spices, mint, dill and cumin, yet neglected the more important matters of the law- justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. (Mt. 23:23) So pay your tithe, but also do charity. To the pastors what does the Lord asks of you? Prophet Micah says it well: “He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” (Micah 6:cool

The answer is not blowing in the wind when we apply this to the situation in Nigeria today. Where is mercy when sick people are not cared for and pastors fly Jets around the world? How are they walking humbly with God when Jet flying is their hallmark or when they are surrounded by bull-like guards? Where is justice when shepherds live lusciously and the poor go hungry and our youths are jobless in their thousands. Where is justice when pastors no longer fraternize with the poor and the weak, but associate only with the powerful and the rich? When Jesus comes back again, would he find faith true faith in Nigeria? This is my humble contribution to enlighten Christians and all lovers of truth.

by Fr.Richard Omolade.
THANKS FOR READING.

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